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But sometimes the fans who complain may be right. When producers make drastic changes just for the heck of it, it can get rid of any redeeming qualities the property had. An established franchise making sudden, drastic changes usually heralds the beginning of RunningTheAsylum and/or a DorkAge. And most important, if fans liked the franchise for what it was, and then it is totally changed, the new stuff may be good and please the fans, but they are right to complain that what they liked is never coming back.
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But sometimes the fans who complain may be right. When producers make drastic changes just for the heck of it, it can get rid of any redeeming qualities the property had. An established franchise making sudden, drastic changes usually heralds the beginning of RunningTheAsylum and/or a DorkAge. And most important, if If fans liked the franchise for what it was, and then it is totally changed, the new stuff may be good and please the fans, but they are right to complain that what they liked is never coming back.
back. And the most important, they can argue that they aren't complaining because it was changed, they are complaining because it was changed for the worse, the new version is not just different, it is bad.
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But sometimes the fans who complain may be right. When producers make drastic changes just for the heck of it, it can get rid of any redeeming qualities the property had. An established franchise making sudden, drastic changes usually heralds the beginning of RunningTheAsylum, RunningTheAsylum and/or a DorkAge, or worse, DeaderThanDisco.DorkAge. And most important, if fans liked the franchise for what it was, and then it is totally changed, the new stuff may be good and please the fans, but they are right to complain that what they liked is never coming back.
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I cant belive NOBODY added these!
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For some people, the very act of adaptation ''is'' decay. A film version of something should be a direct [[ShotForShotRemake word-for-word transcription]], with utmost care that the sets, costumes and people be reproduced in every detail. If a character who wears a homburg in the original now wears a fedora, that will be enough to ruin the character, and therefore ruin the film. It will be all you will hear about from these fans on message boards, with them going on at length to explain how his homburg visually defined his entire personality in a way that a fedora never could.
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For some people, the very act of adaptation ''is'' decay. A film version of something should be a direct [[ShotForShotRemake word-for-word transcription]], with utmost care that the sets, costumes and people be reproduced in every detail. If a character who wears a homburg in the original now wears a fedora, that will be enough to ruin the character, and therefore ruin the film. It will be all you will hear about from these fans on message boards, with them going on at length to explain how his homburg visually defined his entire personality in a way that a fedora never could.
could (even though both look almost exactly the same, except for the top).
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And don't you ''dare'' suggest that in changing it they made it better. If certain fans take the Chicken Little approach and announce that the sky is falling, it's mainly an expression of their fears that the writing staff [[TheyJustDidntCare don't care much]] about the source material (particularly if [[AudienceAlienatingPremise it's not mainstream-friendly]]).
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And don't you ''dare'' suggest that in changing it they made it better. If certain fans take the Chicken Little approach and announce that the sky is falling, it's mainly an expression of their fears that the writing staff [[TheyJustDidntCare don't care much]] much about the source material (particularly if [[AudienceAlienatingPremise it's not mainstream-friendly]]).
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But sometimes the fans who complain may be right. When producers make drastic changes just for the heck of it, it can get rid of any redeeming qualities the property had. An established franchise making sudden, drastic changes usually heralds the beginning of RunningTheAsylum, a DorkAge, or worse, DeaderThanDisco.
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But sometimes the fans who complain may be right. When producers make drastic changes just for the heck of it, it can get rid of any redeeming qualities the property had. An established franchise making sudden, drastic changes usually heralds the beginning of RunningTheAsylum, a DorkAge, or worse, DeaderThanDisco.
DeaderThanDisco. And most important, if fans liked the franchise for what it was, and then it is totally changed, the new stuff may be good and please the fans, but they are right to complain that what they liked is never coming back.
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->'''Fry''': Married? Jenny can't get married.\\
'''Leela''': Why not? It's clever; it's unexpected.\\
'''Fry''': But that's not why people watch TV. Clever things make people feel stupid, and unexpected things make them feel scared.
-->-- ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}''
'''Leela''': Why not? It's clever; it's unexpected.\\
'''Fry''': But that's not why people watch TV. Clever things make people feel stupid, and unexpected things make them feel scared.
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'''Leela''': Why not? It's clever; it's unexpected.\\
'''Fry''': But that's not why people watch TV. Clever things
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Sometimes, the complaints are about a sequel or remake to an adaptation, and the original adaptation actually made changes from its source material, and the new adaptation [[TruerToTheText tries to be more faithful]], but people don't know that and complain about changes anyway.
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For some people, the very act of adaptation ''is'' decay. A film version of something should be a direct [[ShotForShotRemake word-for-word]] transcription, with utmost care that the sets, costumes and people be reproduced in every detail. If a character who wears a homburg in the original now wears a fedora, that will be enough to ruin the character, and therefore ruin the film. It will be all you will hear about from these fans on message boards, with them going on at length to explain how his homburg visually defined his entire personality in a way that a fedora never could.
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For some people, the very act of adaptation ''is'' decay. A film version of something should be a direct [[ShotForShotRemake word-for-word]] transcription, word-for-word transcription]], with utmost care that the sets, costumes and people be reproduced in every detail. If a character who wears a homburg in the original now wears a fedora, that will be enough to ruin the character, and therefore ruin the film. It will be all you will hear about from these fans on message boards, with them going on at length to explain how his homburg visually defined his entire personality in a way that a fedora never could.
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For some people, the very act of adaptation ''is'' decay. A film version of something should be a direct word-for-word transcription, with utmost care that the sets, costumes and people be reproduced in every detail. If a character who wears a homburg in the original now wears a fedora, that will be enough to ruin the character, and therefore ruin the film. It will be all you will hear about from these fans on message boards, with them going on at length to explain how his homburg visually defined his entire personality in a way that a fedora never could.
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For some people, the very act of adaptation ''is'' decay. A film version of something should be a direct word-for-word [[ShotForShotRemake word-for-word]] transcription, with utmost care that the sets, costumes and people be reproduced in every detail. If a character who wears a homburg in the original now wears a fedora, that will be enough to ruin the character, and therefore ruin the film. It will be all you will hear about from these fans on message boards, with them going on at length to explain how his homburg visually defined his entire personality in a way that a fedora never could.
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->''"If you want to make enemies, try to change something."''
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'''Leela''': Why not? It's clever; it's unexpected.\\
'''Fry''': But that's not why people watch TV. Clever things make
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This also happens a lot with translations. People can become religiously attached (sometimes quite literally, in the case of texts like Literature/TheBible) to one translation of a work, and when a new translation comes out they condemn it as a travesty, accusing it of distorting and cheapening the meaning of the original, whether or not the new translation is more a literally accurate rendering.
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This also happens a lot with translations. People can become religiously attached (sometimes quite literally, in the case of texts like Literature/TheBible) to one translation of a work, and when a new translation comes out they condemn it as a travesty, accusing it of distorting and cheapening the meaning of the original, whether or not the new translation is a more a literally accurate rendering.
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[[caption-width-right:317:Not to mention the denouement was too short.]]
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[[caption-width-right:317:Not to mention [[EndingFatigue the denouement was too short.short]].]]
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And don't you ''dare'' suggest that in changing it they made it better. If certain fans take the Chicken Little approach and announce that the sky is falling, it's mainly an expression of their fears that the writing staff [[TheyJustDidntCare don't care much]] about the source material (particularly if it's not mainstream-friendly).
This also happens a lot with translations. People can become religiously attached (sometimes quite literally, in the case of texts like Literature/TheBible) to one translation of a work, and when a new translation comes out condemn it as a travesty, accusing it of distorting and cheapening the meaning of the original, whether or not the new translation is more a literally accurate rendering.
This also happens a lot with translations. People can become religiously attached (sometimes quite literally, in the case of texts like Literature/TheBible) to one translation of a work, and when a new translation comes out condemn it as a travesty, accusing it of distorting and cheapening the meaning of the original, whether or not the new translation is more a literally accurate rendering.
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And don't you ''dare'' suggest that in changing it they made it better. If certain fans take the Chicken Little approach and announce that the sky is falling, it's mainly an expression of their fears that the writing staff [[TheyJustDidntCare don't care much]] about the source material (particularly if [[AudienceAlienatingPremise it's not mainstream-friendly).mainstream-friendly]]).
This also happens a lot with translations. People can become religiously attached (sometimes quite literally, in the case of texts like Literature/TheBible) to one translation of a work, and when a new translation comes out they condemn it as a travesty, accusing it of distorting and cheapening the meaning of the original, whether or not the new translation is more a literally accurate rendering.
This also happens a lot with translations. People can become religiously attached (sometimes quite literally, in the case of texts like Literature/TheBible) to one translation of a work, and when a new translation comes out they condemn it as a travesty, accusing it of distorting and cheapening the meaning of the original, whether or not the new translation is more a literally accurate rendering.
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But sometimes the fans who complain may be right. When producers make drastic changes just for the heck of it, it can get rid of any redeeming qualities the property had. An established franchise making sudden, drastic changes usually heralds the beginning of a DorkAge, or worse, DeaderThanDisco.
See also TranslationStyleChoices, NewSoundAlbum, ReplacementScrappy, DarthWiki/RuinedFOREVER, NetworkDecay and FanonDiscontinuity. Contrast {{Woolseyism}}. May overlap with TheyDontMakeThemLikeTheyUsedTo. On the opposite end of the spectrum is ItsTheSameNowItSucks. A general trend of {{Unpleasable| Fanbase}}[=/=]BrokenBase forever plagues ItsTheSameNowItSucks and They Changed It, Now It Sucks. Sometimes a result of AbilityOverAppearance.
See also TranslationStyleChoices, NewSoundAlbum, ReplacementScrappy, DarthWiki/RuinedFOREVER, NetworkDecay and FanonDiscontinuity. Contrast {{Woolseyism}}. May overlap with TheyDontMakeThemLikeTheyUsedTo. On the opposite end of the spectrum is ItsTheSameNowItSucks. A general trend of {{Unpleasable| Fanbase}}[=/=]BrokenBase forever plagues ItsTheSameNowItSucks and They Changed It, Now It Sucks. Sometimes a result of AbilityOverAppearance.
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This is sometimes a result of AbilityOverAppearance.
But sometimes the fans who complain may be right. When producers make drastic changes just for the heck of it, it can get rid of any redeeming qualities the property had. An established franchise making sudden, drastic changes usually heralds the beginning of RunningTheAsylum, a DorkAge, or worse, DeaderThanDisco.
See also Compare TranslationStyleChoices, NewSoundAlbum, ReplacementScrappy, DarthWiki/RuinedFOREVER, NetworkDecay and FanonDiscontinuity. NetworkDecay, FanonDiscontinuity, TheyDontMakeThemLikeTheyUsedTo.
See also UnpleasableFanbase, BrokenBase.
Contrast{{Woolseyism}}. May overlap with TheyDontMakeThemLikeTheyUsedTo. On the opposite end of the spectrum is ItsTheSameNowItSucks. A general trend of {{Unpleasable| Fanbase}}[=/=]BrokenBase forever plagues ItsTheSameNowItSucks and They Changed It, Now It Sucks. Sometimes a result of AbilityOverAppearance.{{Woolseyism}}, ItsTheSameNowItSucks.
But sometimes the fans who complain may be right. When producers make drastic changes just for the heck of it, it can get rid of any redeeming qualities the property had. An established franchise making sudden, drastic changes usually heralds the beginning of RunningTheAsylum, a DorkAge, or worse, DeaderThanDisco.
See also UnpleasableFanbase, BrokenBase.
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See also TranslationStyleChoices, NewSoundAlbum, ReplacementScrappy, DarthWiki/RuinedFOREVER, NetworkDecay and FanonDiscontinuity. Contrast {{Woolseyism}}. May overlap with TheyDontMakeThemLikeTheyUsedTo. On the opposite end of the spectrum is ItsTheSameNowItSucks. A general trend of {{Unpleasable| Fanbase}}[=/=]BrokenBase forever plagues ItsTheSameNowItSucks and TheyChangedItNowItSucks.They Changed It, Now It Sucks. Sometimes a result of AbilityOverAppearance.
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By this site\'s standards, real people can\'t be strawman. And they aren\'t strawmen in the first place if their complaints are well reasoned.
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But sometimes [[StrawmanHasAPoint the fans who complain may be right]]. When producers make drastic changes just for the heck of it, it can get rid of any redeeming qualities the property had. An established franchise making sudden, drastic changes usually heralds the beginning of a DorkAge, or worse, DeaderThanDisco.
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But sometimes [[StrawmanHasAPoint the fans who complain may be right]].right. When producers make drastic changes just for the heck of it, it can get rid of any redeeming qualities the property had. An established franchise making sudden, drastic changes usually heralds the beginning of a DorkAge, or worse, DeaderThanDisco.
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Since the book\'s denouement still was longer than the film\'s.
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...or so you would be told by many, many a fan.
many, ''many'' fans.
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This also happens a lot with translations. People can become religiously attached (sometimes quite literally, in the case of texts like Literature/TheBible) to one translation of a work, and when a new translation comes out condemn it as a travesty, accusing it of distorting and cheapening the meaning of the original, whether or not the new translation is more a literally accurate rendering.[[http://www.tokobungasabana.com toko bunga]] - [[http://www.tokobungasabana.com toko bunga online]] - [[http://www.mpsmsc.com/recruitment-indonesia.html MSC recruitment indonesia]] - [[http://www.mpsmsc.com/crewing-indonesia.html MSC crewing indonesia]]
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This also happens a lot with translations. People can become religiously attached (sometimes quite literally, in the case of texts like Literature/TheBible) to one translation of a work, and when a new translation comes out condemn it as a travesty, accusing it of distorting and cheapening the meaning of the original, whether or not the new translation is more a literally accurate rendering.
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And don't you ''dare'' suggest that in changing it they made it better. If certain fans take the Chicken Little approach and announce that the sky is falling, it's mainly an expression of their fears that the writing staff [[TheyJustDidntCare don't care much]] about the source material (particularly if it's not mainstream-friendly). [[http://www.tokobungasabana.com toko bunga]] - [[http://www.tokobungasabana.com toko bunga online]] - [[http://www.mpsmsc.com/recruitment-indonesia.html MSC recruitment indonesia]] - [[http://www.mpsmsc.com/crewing-indonesia.html MSC crewing indonesia]]
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And don't you ''dare'' suggest that in changing it they made it better. If certain fans take the Chicken Little approach and announce that the sky is falling, it's mainly an expression of their fears that the writing staff [[TheyJustDidntCare don't care much]] about the source material (particularly if it's not mainstream-friendly). [[http://www.tokobungasabana.com toko bunga]] - [[http://www.tokobungasabana.com toko bunga online]] - [[http://www.mpsmsc.com/recruitment-indonesia.html MSC recruitment indonesia]] - [[http://www.mpsmsc.com/crewing-indonesia.html MSC crewing indonesia]]\n\n
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And don't you ''dare'' suggest that in changing it they made it better. If certain fans take the Chicken Little approach and announce that the sky is falling, it's mainly an expression of their fears that the writing staff [[TheyJustDidntCare don't care much]] about the source material (particularly if it's not mainstream-friendly).
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And don't you ''dare'' suggest that in changing it they made it better. If certain fans take the Chicken Little approach and announce that the sky is falling, it's mainly an expression of their fears that the writing staff [[TheyJustDidntCare don't care much]] about the source material (particularly if it's not mainstream-friendly).
mainstream-friendly). [[http://www.tokobungasabana.com toko bunga]] - [[http://www.tokobungasabana.com toko bunga online]] - [[http://www.mpsmsc.com/recruitment-indonesia.html MSC recruitment indonesia]] - [[http://www.mpsmsc.com/crewing-indonesia.html MSC crewing indonesia]]