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* [[Creator/LauraBailey Vex]] and [[Creator/LiamOBrien Vax]] from ''WebVideo/CriticalRole'' have this debate - or rather, Vex's player Creator/LauraBailey did, when someone asked for the twins'[[note]] The characters are twins because Liam and Laura share a birthday. With this in mind, it's possible that Vax is canonically older because Liam is older by five years.[[/note]] Laura and ages on [[https://twitter.com/laurabaileyvo/status/634087917212667904 Twitter]]:
-->'''Laura:''' Vax is ancient. Vex is young and spry and smells of elderflowers.]]

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* [[Creator/LauraBailey Vex]] and [[Creator/LiamOBrien Vax]] from ''WebVideo/CriticalRole'' have this debate - or rather, Vex's player Creator/LauraBailey did, when someone asked for the twins'[[note]] The characters are twins because Liam and Laura share a birthday. With this in mind, it's possible that Vax is canonically older because Liam is older by five years.[[/note]] Laura and ages on [[https://twitter.com/laurabaileyvo/status/634087917212667904 Twitter]]:
-->'''Laura:''' Vax is ancient. Vex is young and spry and smells of elderflowers.]]
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* [[Creator/LauraBailey Vex]] and [[Creator/LiamOBrien Vax]] from ''WebVideo/CriticalRole'' have this debate - or rather, Vex's player Creator/LauraBailey did, when someone asked for the twins'[[note]] The characters are twins because Liam and Laura share a birthday. With this in mind, it's possible that Vax is canonically older because Liam is older by five years.[[/note]] Laura and ages on [[https://twitter.com/laurabaileyvo/status/634087917212667904 Twitter]]:
-->'''Laura:''' Vax is ancient. Vex is young and spry and smells of elderflowers.]]

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* Zigzagged in ''Manga/CastleTownDandelion''. Played straight with Shu and Kanade in Episodes 6A and 10B, where Shu has to remind Kanade that he's the older twin between them, despite they're just 30 minutes apart. Averted with Misaki and Haruka, as Haruka has no problem calling Misaki his older sister, and also had to correct others that said that Haruka was the older sibling.
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* ''GundamSEED'': [[spoiler: When Cagalli tells Athrun she's glad to have Kira for a little brother, he teasingly asks her if he might not be her big brother instead. She grumpily insists that she was born first]].

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* ''GundamSEED'': ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEED'': [[spoiler: When Cagalli tells Athrun she's glad to have Kira for a little brother, he teasingly asks her if he might not be her big brother instead. She grumpily insists that she was born first]].
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* When Wanda starts ordering around her brother in Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron, he reminds her he's twelve minutes older than her, though it's more light teasing than a serious argument.

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* When Wanda starts ordering around her brother in Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron, ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron'', he reminds her he's twelve minutes older than her, though it's more light teasing than a serious argument.
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* When Wanda starts ordering around her brother in Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron, he reminds her he's twelve minutes older than her, though it's more light teasing than a serious argument.
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* Used in the movie ''Hangman's Curse''.
* Variant: the French musical ''Les Demoiselles de Rochefort'' has the younger twin calling the other "old girl," leading the other to reply:
-->'''Solange:''' Just because I was born fifteen minutes earlier doesn't mean you can call me "old girl!"
* The seniority of rank example also occurs in the 1964 film ''{{Zulu}}'', between Lieutenant Chard and Lieutenant Bromhead. This [[WildMassGuessing might have been]] the origin for the ''[[Series/StarTrekVoyager Voyager]]'' example.
* Variation: A deleted scene from ''TheBoondockSaints'' includes the main characters trying to get their mother to tell them which of them is older, presumably so they will then be able to use this trope. Eventually she tells them, "The one with the bigger cock!"


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* PlayedWith in ''Disney/MeetTheRobinsons,'' when thirteen-year-old Wilbur tries to pull this on twelve-year-old Lewis. Of course, as a time traveler, Wilbur technically won't even be born for seventeen years. More to the point, [[spoiler:[[KidFromTheFuture Lewis is his father]]]].


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* Used in the movie ''Hangman's Curse''.
* Variant: the French musical ''Les Demoiselles de Rochefort'' has the younger twin calling the other "old girl," leading the other to reply:
-->'''Solange:''' Just because I was born fifteen minutes earlier doesn't mean you can call me "old girl!"
* The seniority of rank example also occurs in the 1964 film ''{{Zulu}}'', between Lieutenant Chard and Lieutenant Bromhead. This [[WildMassGuessing might have been]] the origin for the ''[[Series/StarTrekVoyager Voyager]]'' example.
* Variation: A deleted scene from ''TheBoondockSaints'' includes the main characters trying to get their mother to tell them which of them is older, presumably so they will then be able to use this trope. Eventually she tells them, "The one with the bigger cock!"
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* On ''AllTogetherNow'', Anna comments on how she is fifteen minutes older than Thomas and wonders if she kicked him in the head on the way out.
* An episode of ''PairOfKings'' plays with this; Brady claims to be the older twin, prompting Boomer to go to an oracle to find proof.

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* On ''AllTogetherNow'', ''Series/AllTogetherNow'', Anna comments on how she is fifteen minutes older than Thomas and wonders if she kicked him in the head on the way out.
* An episode of ''PairOfKings'' ''Series/PairOfKings'' plays with this; Brady claims to be the older twin, prompting Boomer to go to an oracle to find proof.proof.
* Larry, Darryl, and Darryl from ''Series/{{Newhart}}'' spent an episode competing for leadership based on varying accounts of which one was born first.
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* In ''WesternAnimation/{{Arthur}}'', Tommy Tibble is two minutes older than his twin brother, Timmy. This was first brought up in the Season 15 episode, "Whistling in the Wind", and later became the plot point of the Season 18 episode, "Two Minutes".
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* Lampshaded in a ''SpaceGhost'' episode:

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* Inverted on ''TheSimpsons'', when Selma laments Patty's good fortune in being "two minutes younger" and thus presumably more desirable to men than Selma herself.
* ''{{Rugrats}}'': Lil is 2 minutes older than Phil, continued to come up in arguments in ''All Grown Up''.

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* Inverted on ''TheSimpsons'', in ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'', when Selma laments Patty's good fortune in being "two minutes younger" and thus presumably more desirable to men than Selma herself.
* ''{{Rugrats}}'': ''WesternAnimation/{{Rugrats}}'': Lil is 2 minutes older than Phil, continued to come up in arguments in ''All Grown Up''.



* In one episode of ''KimPossible'', Dr. Director's [[EvilTwin evil (fraternal) twin]] is four minutes older, and blames his megomaniacal ambitions on the fact she didn't defer to him as a kid.

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* In one episode of ''KimPossible'', ''WesternAnimation/KimPossible'', Dr. Director's [[EvilTwin evil (fraternal) twin]] is four minutes older, and blames his megomaniacal ambitions on the fact she didn't defer to him as a kid.



* In ''ThePowerpuffGirls'', Blossom always takes charges and generally acts older than her sisters, Buttercup has typically the behaviour of the somewhat overlooked middle-child, and Bubbles acts like the baby of the three. In spite of the fact that there is no age-gap between them at all.

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* In ''ThePowerpuffGirls'', ''WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls'', Blossom always takes charges and generally acts older than her sisters, Buttercup has typically the behaviour of the somewhat overlooked middle-child, and Bubbles acts like the baby of the three. In spite of the fact that there is no age-gap between them at all.
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* In ''MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'', the Numbers cyborgs type numbers do not represent their actual birth order; Sette (Type VII), is the youngest of them, while Dieci (Type X) is older than several others. As a result, Quattro (Type IV) is annoyed that Cinque (Type V) being technically older due to being born first, and refers to her as she would a younger sibling. In ''SoundStageX'' and ''Manga/ViVid'', [[spoiler:Nove]] is somewhat unwilling to accept that she's [[spoiler:Subaru]]'s ''younger'' sister after her adoption.

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* In ''MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'', the Numbers cyborgs type numbers do not represent their actual birth order; Sette (Type VII), is the youngest of them, while Dieci (Type X) is older than several others. As a result, Quattro (Type IV) is annoyed that Cinque (Type V) being technically older due to being born first, and refers to her as she would a younger sibling. In ''SoundStageX'' ''Audioplay/StrikerSSoundStageX'' and ''Manga/ViVid'', [[spoiler:Nove]] is somewhat unwilling to accept that she's [[spoiler:Subaru]]'s ''younger'' sister after her adoption.
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* In ''ComicStrip/HiAndLois'', Ditto overpowers twin sister Dot to take the last cookie. He justifies feeling entitled to the cookie by pointing out, "I'm older. I was born five minutes before you." In the last panel, Dot grumbles, "He probably elbowed me out of the way then too."
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** This becomes even more absurd when you realize that, in most versions of [[ClassicalMythology the source material]], it was ''Artemis'' who was born first. And helped her mother deliver Apollo, no less. ClassicalMythology is weird.

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** This becomes even more absurd when you realize that, in most versions of [[ClassicalMythology [[Myth/ClassicalMythology the source material]], it was ''Artemis'' who was born first. And helped her mother deliver Apollo, no less. ClassicalMythology Myth/ClassicalMythology is weird.
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* ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold'' "The Malicious Mr. Mind!" Mary Marvel argues that Billy Batson is only older than her in superhero form, otherwise she's older than him by three seconds.

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* ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold'' "The Malicious Mr. Mind!" Mary Marvel argues that Billy Batson is only older than her in superhero form, otherwise she's older than him by three seconds. (This must have been quite difficult on the late Mrs. Batson.)
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* PlayedWith in ''Literature/{{Animorphs}}:'' when [[PuppeteerParasite Yeerk]] twins are born, one is somehow designated "primary" and the other "lesser," which is basically built in ParentalFavoritism (except not actually by the parents, [[DeathByChildbirth since they die giving birth]]). [[BigBad Visser Three]] is actually a twin, and always got opportunities for advancement over his brother. Esplin-9466 Lesser responded by becoming rich and powerful in human society [[BreadMilkEggsSquick and also becoming a cannibalistic serial killer]].
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* Dante and Vergil in ''DevilMayCry''. Vergil is the slightly older twin brother... [[AloofBigBrother and acts like it.]]

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* Dante and Vergil in ''DevilMayCry''.''Franchise/DevilMayCry''. Vergil is the slightly older twin brother... [[AloofBigBrother and acts like it.]]
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** This becomes even more absurd when you realize that, in most versions of [[ClassicalMythology the source material]], it was ''Artemis'' who was born first.

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** This becomes even more absurd when you realize that, in most versions of [[ClassicalMythology the source material]], it was ''Artemis'' who was born first. And helped her mother deliver Apollo, no less. ClassicalMythology is weird.
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** {{Inverted}} in the Passover special, when each tries to claim that the other is the firstborn child who will be "[[NeverSayDie taken away]]" (before being told that they're both safe from the plague).
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* ''WesternAnimation/SofiaTheFirst'': Amber is seven minutes older than her twin brother James. This is rarely brought up.
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** In one episode Mabel tries this, and Dipper angrily responds that they're twins. "Girls mature faster," she says smugly, which is especially ironic [[CloudCuckooLander in their]] [[CuckooLandersMinder case]].

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** In one episode Mabel tries this, and Dipper angrily responds that they're twins. "Girls mature faster," she says smugly, which is especially ironic [[CloudCuckooLander in their]] [[CuckooLandersMinder [[CloudCuckoolandersMinder case]].
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** In one episode Mabel tries this, and Dipper angrily responds that they're twins. "Girls mature faster," she says smugly, which is especially ironic [[CloudCuckooLander in their]] [[CuckooLander'sMinder case]].

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** In one episode Mabel tries this, and Dipper angrily responds that they're twins. "Girls mature faster," she says smugly, which is especially ironic [[CloudCuckooLander in their]] [[CuckooLander'sMinder [[CuckooLandersMinder case]].
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** In one episode Mabel tries this, and Dipper angrily responds that they're twins. "Girls mature faster," she says smugly, which is especially ironic [[CloudCuckooLander in their]] [[CuckooLander'sMinder case]].
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* Inverted in ''FinalFantasyVI'', where Sabin affectionately calls his twin Edgar "big brother", the imprecision of which is Lampshaded by the other characters. Further toyed with in that Sabin, due to his years of training in the wilderness, is way bigger physically than his pampered royal brother.

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* Inverted in ''FinalFantasyVI'', ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI'', where Sabin affectionately calls his twin Edgar "big brother", the imprecision of which is Lampshaded by the other characters. Further toyed with in that Sabin, due to his years of training in the wilderness, is way bigger physically than his pampered royal brother.



* Yuri and Chelink in ''FinalFantasyCrystalChronicles: Ring of Fates'' have this argument constantly, with Chelinka insisting that Meeth told her she's a couple minutes older.

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* Yuri and Chelink in ''FinalFantasyCrystalChronicles: ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyCrystalChronicles: Ring of Fates'' have this argument constantly, with Chelinka insisting that Meeth told her she's a couple minutes older.
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* Mabel and Dipper in ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls''. She often remarks that "you'll get it when you're older" due to being older than Dipper by five minutes, according to WordOfGod. It often drives him nuts, since "Dipper Vs. Manliness" proves that he wants to grow up and become a man since he hates being a wimpy 12-year old.

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* Mabel and Dipper in ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls''. She often remarks that "you'll get it when you're older" due to being older than Dipper by five minutes, according to WordOfGod. It often drives him nuts, since "Dipper Vs. Manliness" proves that he wants to grow up and become a man since because he hates being a wimpy 12-year old.
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* Mabel and Dipper in ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls''. She often remarks that "you'll get it when you're older" due to being older than Dipper by five minutes, according to WordOfGod.

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** This becomes even more absurd when you realize that, in most versions of [[ClassicalMythology the source material]], it was ''Artemis'' who was born first.
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** In real life, seniority is serious business. My department had to lay off two people, and one day of seniority was going to determine who stayed. (In the end, it was averted by the ''most'' senior employee taking early retirement instead.)



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* Despite what Rick Riordan claims, according to D'Aulaire's book of Greek myths, Artemis is the older twin to Apollo. When their mother, Leto, was giving birth, Artemis was born first, very easily, and being a goddess, was at once aware enough to help her mother birth Apollo. Apollo's birth took seven days and nights - and Artemis' role in delivering him is why she is a goddess of childbirth, as well as chastity.

**Actually there is no contradiction. Artemis says that she is older and Apollo says otherwise, so Rick Riordan does not say anything contradictory. The truth is that Apollo was just playing to annoy Artemis, but she was right. (She is the older twin.)

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