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* One example of this was the Western Allies allying with the Soviet Union during World War II. On one side, you had a group of largely democratic countries (most of which, admittedly, had large, distinctly un-democratically-run Empires) who had a strong history of anti-Communism. On the other, you had a totalitarian Communist state which had killed nearly a million of its own people as ideological enemies and imprisoned a few million more. What brought them together-- the ''only'' thing, even --was a common EnemyMine in the form of ThoseWackyNazis and Italian fascism. While this did lead to beneficial co-operation between the two powers, it also led to things such as what some have called [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_betrayal the Western Betrayal]]. Winston Churchill, a vehement anti-Communist, rather famously summed it up as:

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* One example of this was the Western Allies allying with the Soviet Union during World War II. On one side, you had a group of largely democratic countries (most of which, admittedly, had large, distinctly un-democratically-run Empires) who had a strong history of anti-Communism. On the other, you had a totalitarian Communist state which had killed nearly a million of its own people as ideological enemies and imprisoned a few million more. What brought them together-- the ''only'' thing, even --was a common EnemyMine in the form of ThoseWackyNazis and Italian fascism. While this did lead to beneficial co-operation between the two powers, it also led to things such as what some have called [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_betrayal the Western Betrayal]]. Betrayal.]] Winston Churchill, a vehement anti-Communist, rather famously summed it up as:



** Allied Realpolitik after the war resulted in actions such as "Operation Paperclip", the de-Nazification of scientists and technical personnel who had built the V2 Rockets for Germany, often using slave labor from concentration camps in dreadful conditions. Indeed, more people were killed making these rockets than the rockets did on its own. The most notorious is Wernher von Braun. The reason for this absorption was that the USA wanted to make sure that the Soviet Union, in the early stages of the UsefulNotes/ColdWar, didn't get a leg-up in the space race (they failed). Another notorious case is the story of General Scobie, a British officer appointed by Churchill to sideline the Greek partisans who had resisted Nazism and its collaborators, mostly because several of them were communist, socialist and leftist. This resulted in Scobie arming and putting into place Nazi collaborators and Greek fascists who unleashed three decades of dictatorship, and this manifested itself in [[https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/30/athens-1944-britains-dirty-secret British troops firing at Greek crowds at a victory rally]].

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** Allied Realpolitik after the war resulted in actions such as "Operation Paperclip", the de-Nazification of scientists and technical personnel who had built the V2 Rockets for Germany, often using slave labor from concentration camps in dreadful conditions. Indeed, more people were killed making these rockets than the rockets did on its own. The most notorious is Wernher von Braun. The reason for this absorption was that the USA wanted to make sure that the Soviet Union, in the early stages of the UsefulNotes/ColdWar, didn't get a leg-up in the space race (they failed). Another notorious case is the story of General Scobie, a British officer appointed by Churchill to sideline the Greek partisans who had resisted Nazism and its collaborators, mostly because several of them were communist, socialist and leftist. This resulted in Scobie arming and putting into place Nazi collaborators and Greek fascists who unleashed three decades of dictatorship, and this manifested itself in [[https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/30/athens-1944-britains-dirty-secret British troops firing at Greek crowds at a victory rally]]. rally.]]



** The Irony of Gore's loss is that he became Vice President because of this causing UsefulNotes/GeorgeHWBush's loss to UsefulNotes/BillClinton (The President Gore served as Veep too) in 1992, thanks to UsefulNotes/RossPerot splitting the vote. Bill Clinton, although winning both his presidential elections, never received the majority of the Popular Vote (only the plurality) because of this as well. He remains the only President to twice be elected despite never having a majority of the popular vote.

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** The Irony of Gore's loss is that he became Vice President because of this causing UsefulNotes/GeorgeHWBush's loss to UsefulNotes/BillClinton (The President Gore served as Veep too) in 1992, thanks to UsefulNotes/RossPerot Ross Perot splitting the vote. Bill Clinton, although winning both his presidential elections, never received the majority of the Popular Vote (only the plurality) because of this as well. He remains the only President to twice be elected despite never having a majority of the popular vote.



** In the 2016 US Presidential elections, both candidates were polling below 50% for much of the campaign. (One poll among millennials found that both candidates polled lower than a third term for Obama, a machine that would select at random one eligible person who wasn't Donald Trump or Hilary Clinton, and [[Film/{{Armageddon}} a meteor the size of Texas striking the planet]].) A few optimists saw the possibility of a third party voting would increase, but in the end, many people voted for one candidate because they could not stand the other. In the end, overall voting was a record low (in spite of record early voter turn out), but exit polling revealed that Donald Trump actually did a few points better with minority votes than 2012 candidate UsefulNotes/MittRomney while Hilary Clinton had lost a larger percentage of minority voters than the gains seen by Trump (indicating other candidates or non-voting).

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** In the 2016 US Presidential elections, both candidates were polling below 50% for much of the campaign. (One poll among millennials found that both candidates polled lower than a third term for Obama, a machine that would select at random one eligible person who wasn't Donald Trump or Hilary Clinton, and [[Film/{{Armageddon}} a meteor the size of Texas striking the planet]].) A few optimists saw the possibility of a third party voting would increase, but in the end, many people voted for one candidate because they could not stand the other. In the end, overall voting was a record low (in spite of record early voter turn out), but exit polling revealed that Donald Trump actually did a few points better with minority votes than 2012 candidate UsefulNotes/MittRomney Mitt Romney while Hilary Clinton had lost a larger percentage of minority voters than the gains seen by Trump (indicating other candidates or non-voting).


* The main quest of ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'' features a quest that involves complex negotiations between the two Civil War factions. Tullius was seen ready to behead Ulfric at the beginning of the game, but then is seen negotiating with him because the dragon threat is too large for either side to ignore anymore. Elisif and Galmar are both miffed at the idea of just freely giving away territory, but Tullius and Ulfric both see the value. The player can influence these negotiations, though favoring one side too heavily will make the other side dislike you more.

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* The main quest of ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'' features a quest that involves complex negotiations between the two Civil War factions.CivilWar factions (unless the PlayerCharacter has already resolved the war in Skyrim). Tullius was seen ready to behead Ulfric at the beginning of the game, but then is seen negotiating with him because the dragon threat is too large for either side to ignore anymore. Elisif and Galmar are both miffed at the idea of just freely giving away territory, but Tullius and Ulfric both see the value. The player can influence these negotiations, though favoring one side too heavily will make the other side dislike you more.

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** The Romulans back the Duras rebels in the Praxis War, as they're more friendly to the Pact of the Raptor than the [=TeTO=]-aligned Azetbur government.


* ''Fanfic/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' fanfic ''Fanfic/ChangelingCourtshipRituals'': One of Twilight's first thoughts after [[AccidentalMarriage accidentally marrying]] [[CrackPairing Chrysalis]] is that this greatly reduces the chances of the changelings trying to conquer Equestria again. On the other hand, Twilight's sister-in-law Cadence is [[RevengeBeforeReason so caught up in her hatred of Chrysalis]] that she remains blind to these implications.

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* ''Fanfic/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' fanfic ''Fanfic/ChangelingCourtshipRituals'': One of Twilight's first thoughts after [[AccidentalMarriage accidentally marrying]] [[CrackPairing Chrysalis]] is that this greatly reduces the chances of the changelings trying to conquer Equestria again. On the other hand, Twilight's sister-in-law Cadence is [[RevengeBeforeReason so caught up in her hatred of Chrysalis]] that she remains blind to these implications.

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* ''Fanfic/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' fanfic ''Fanfic/ChangelingCourtshipRituals'': One of Twilight's first thoughts after [[AccidentalMarriage accidentally marrying]] [[CrackPairing Chrysalis]] is that this greatly reduces the chances of the changelings trying to conquer Equestria again. On the other hand, Twilight's sister-in-law Cadence is [[RevengeBeforeReason so caught up in her hatred of Chrysalis]] that she remains blind to these implications.

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* ''Literature/TheTravelersGate'': Enosh is an apocalypse cult that controls a small city-state, and is dedicated to destroying the Damasca Kingdom. Damasca could easily have conquered Enosh centuries ago, but having a powerful nation of Travelers nearby, even an enemy one, had its advantages. Enosh helped keep the Territories in check, they occasionally shared knowledge, and even had a few trade treaties.


* Otto von Bismarck, a 19th century Prussian statesman who served as the First Chancellor to King Wilhelm I, advocated realpolitik as a means of uniting Germany. Specifically, this was in opposition to the democratic nationalist movements which attempted to unite Germany in the 1840s, whereas Bismarck's plan was to unite the German states under Prussian hegemony by uniting them against various external threats.

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* Otto von Bismarck, a 19th century Prussian statesman who served as the First Chancellor to King Wilhelm I, advocated realpolitik as a means of uniting Germany. Specifically, this was in opposition to the democratic nationalist movements which attempted to unite Germany as a confederation in the 1830s and 1840s, whereas Bismarck's plan was to unite the German states under Prussian hegemony by uniting them against various external threats.



** This was also to help leverage better relations with the Soviet Union, intending to goad the USSR into becoming an ally out of jealousy of China's situation. (i.e. "Hey, China is Communist like us, and they're being friendly with the US while getting some benefits from doing so. Why can't that be us?")

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** This was also to help leverage better relations with the Soviet Union, intending to goad the USSR into becoming an ally out of jealousy of China's situation. (i.e. "Hey, China is Communist like us, and they're being friendly with the US while getting some benefits from doing so. Why can't that be us?")us?"). It would also lift them the load of being allied with a country targeted for openly breaching human rights, which was impairing the American discourse of promoting democracy abroad.

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** During the Great Southern War, the Entebbe Pact finances separatist militant groups in Freyist and Concordat nations, with them doing the same to such groups in Pact nations, to weaken their enemies' war efforts.


%%%%* The tabletop game ''TabletopGame/{{Diplomacy}}''

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%%%%* * The tabletop game ''TabletopGame/{{Diplomacy}}'' runs on this. The whole idea is to keep ''your'' nation intact or on top and to hell with everyone else. If that involves saying you'll ally with another player and stabbing them in the back to side with their more powerful enemy three turns later, so be it.


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* It's a chronic issue for the Republic in ''VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic''. The Empire caught them with their pants down due to Revan's [[LeeroyJenkins complete lack of a warning]], and so they make alliances with the Hutts (mob bosses), terrorists (like the Consular's companion Zenith), criminals (the entire Smuggler class), and openly corrupt governments like the junta on Ord Mantell because those factions dislike the Empire for their own reasons. The Empire makes a selling point over [[AtLeastIAdmitIt being open with the fact]] their "government" is a theocratic cabal of AxCrazy Sith with day to day operations run by the military. Their OnlySaneEmployee is the Intelligence Services, which knows how to play this, but gets little in the way of respect. Come the expansions, the Alliance becomes this, with the Outlander recruiting former Jedi, wayward Sith, pirate factions, refugees, and [[spoiler: possibly the very man who imprisoned the Outlander for five years]] against an OmnicidalManiac.


* In "3:00 P.M.-4:00 P.M." from the fifth season of ''Series/TwentyFour'', Jack Bauer argues with James Nathanson, who is trying to justify the killing of former president David Palmer, whom he greatly admires and has personally saved the life of more than once. Nathanson spins a story about how Palmer's death was a necessity, but Jack's not buying it.

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* In "3:00 P.M.-4:00 P.M." from the fifth season of ''Series/TwentyFour'', Jack Bauer argues with James Nathanson, who is trying to justify the killing of former president David Palmer, whom he Jack greatly admires and has personally saved the life of more than once. Nathanson spins a story about how Palmer's death was a necessity, but Jack's not buying it.

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* In "3:00 P.M.-4:00 P.M." from the fifth season of ''Series/TwentyFour'', Jack Bauer argues with James Nathanson, who is trying to justify the killing of former president David Palmer, whom he greatly admires and has personally saved the life of more than once. Nathanson spins a story about how Palmer's death was a necessity, but Jack's not buying it.
-->'''Jack''': I've heard your reasoning from Walt Cummings. It's still treason.
-->'''Nathanson''': No. It's a realpolitik.

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** The Irony of Gore's loss is that he became Vice President because of this causing UsefulNotes/GeorgeHWBush's loss to UsefulNotes/BillClinton (The President Gore served as Veep too) in 1992, thanks to UsefulNotes/RossPerot splitting the vote. Bill Clinton, although winning both his presidential elections, never received the majority of the Popular Vote (only the plurality) because of this as well. He remains the only President to twice be elected despite never having a majority of the popular vote.


* During the UsefulNotes/ColdWar, the rationale for the democratic US to prop up, support, and aid autocratic strongman regimes and dictatorships with dubious, if not outright brutal and horrific human rights records just to fight Communism, even overthrowing democratic regimes to make way for such autocracies or totalitarian juntas, was based upon realpolitik. Whether it worked or was effective or not, or whether more humane decisions could have been made to fight Communism (i.e: letting the countries remain democratic and try to work with them) is a very controversial topic when examining US history, [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement and let's leave it at that]]. The U.S. has pursued a similar policy (and this Wiki will use [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement similar tact]]) in their dealings with the Middle East, with the goals being (a) keeping oil prices reasonable, and (b) minimizing overt hostilities between Israel and her neighbors.

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* During the UsefulNotes/ColdWar, the rationale for the democratic US to prop up, support, and aid autocratic strongman regimes and dictatorships with dubious, if not outright brutal and horrific human rights records just to fight Communism, even overthrowing democratic regimes to make way for such autocracies or totalitarian juntas, was based upon realpolitik. Whether it worked or was effective or not, or whether more humane decisions could have been made to fight Communism (i.e: letting the countries remain democratic and try to work with them) is a very controversial topic when examining US history, [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment and let's leave it at that]]. The U.S. has pursued a similar policy (and this Wiki will use [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment similar tact]]) in their dealings with the Middle East, with the goals being (a) keeping oil prices reasonable, and (b) minimizing overt hostilities between Israel and her neighbors.


* ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' treats this trope as the order of the day, with some very underhanded episodes such as "Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges" and "In the Pale Moonlight".

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* ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' treats this trope as the order of the day, with some very underhanded episodes such as "Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges" and "In the Pale Moonlight". Many of these episodes involve [[NoSuchAgency Section 31]], which [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans does whatever's necessary to protect]] TheFederation.

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* In ''Film/{{Hackers}}'', The Plague claims to espouse this worldview.
--> '''The Plague:''' Dade, I know how you might feel about narking on your friends, but, we're hackers. For us, there's no such thing as family and friends. We're each our own country, with temporary allies and enemies. I'd like to make a treaty with you.

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