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* ''Literature/TheWheelOfTime'': Mazrim Taim is so obviously evil that it's no surprise at all when he turns out to be a Darkfriend trying to turn the Black Tower into a weapon against Rand.
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* ''WesternAnimation/RoswellConspiraciesAliensMythsAndLegends'': General Rinaker has so many hints dropped about being a traitor to the Alliance — or at least, thoroughly corrupt and out for himself — that the eventual revelation he is indeed a bad guy comes off as quite obvious after almost forty episodes of build-up… [[spoiler:which is all actually a smokescreen for the '''real''' plot twist that "Rinaker" has been DeadAllAlong and the guy the characters have been interacting with is actually Wraith, a Shadoen agent, wearing the guy's skin to prepare an invasion of Earth.]]
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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Amphibia}}'': King Andrias Leviathan's status as the series' WalkingSpoiler villain was so blatantly and excessively foreshadowed that viewers started making many theories about him right after his first appearance, where he's seen moving a chess piece resembling protagonist Anne Boonchuy on a chessboard, and then kneeling down to a sinister-looking entity, which is later revealed to be The Core. And that's without mentioning the indications present in Andrias' aesthetic, as he's covered in dark-colored, battle-scarred armor, has [[WhiteHairBlackHeart white hair and a beard]], and is voiced by Keith David, who's known to have portrayed numerous villains in his career. Andrias' last name is also a dead giveaway, since "leviathan" is a word used to describe autocratic monarchs who are tyrants. When the final Season 2 episode was announced to be titled "True Colors", the betrayal Andrias was going to commit was basically spoiled out, and became not as exciting of a twist as the reveal that Marcy Wu duped her friends into going to Amphibia because she didn't want to lose them from moving away from home.

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Amphibia}}'': King Andrias Leviathan's status as the series' WalkingSpoiler villain was so blatantly and excessively foreshadowed that viewers started making many theories about him right after his first appearance, where he's seen moving a chess piece resembling protagonist Anne Boonchuy on a chessboard, and then kneeling down to a sinister-looking entity, which is later revealed to be The Core.Core (the GreaterScopeVillain whom he reports to). And that's without mentioning the indications present in Andrias' aesthetic, as he's covered in dark-colored, battle-scarred armor, has [[WhiteHairBlackHeart white hair and a beard]], and is voiced by Keith David, who's known to have portrayed numerous villains in his career. Andrias' last name is also a dead giveaway, since "leviathan" is a word used to describe autocratic monarchs who are tyrants. When the final Season 2 episode was announced to be titled "True Colors", the betrayal Andrias was going to commit was basically spoiled out, and became not as exciting of a twist as the reveal that Marcy Wu duped her friends into going to Amphibia because she didn't want to lose them from moving away from home.
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** ''Film/Spiral2021'': William Schenk being the Spiral Killer becomes very blatant when he supposedly dies in one of the games, simply due to the fact that, unlike all the past victims (as well as the fact that this already happened in two [[Film/SawIV previous]] [[Film/{{Jigsaw}} films]] with other killers in the series), he's never seen getting kidnapped nor is his game itself shown. Also, his surname sounds like "shank" (as in to stab someone in the back), and the fact that he's played by Creator/MaxMinghella (who's already known for playing twist villains) was enough for some people to figure him out as early as the film's trailer came out.

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** ''Film/Spiral2021'': William Schenk being the Spiral Killer becomes very blatant when he supposedly dies in one of the games, simply due to the fact that, unlike all the past victims (as well as the fact that this already happened in two [[Film/SawIV previous]] [[Film/{{Jigsaw}} films]] with other killers in the series), killers), he's never seen getting kidnapped nor is his game itself shown. Also, his surname sounds like "shank" (as in to stab someone in the back), and the fact that he's played by Creator/MaxMinghella (who's already known for playing twist villains) was enough for some people to figure him out as early as the film's trailer came out.
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** ''Film/Spiral2021'': William Schenk being the Spiral Killer becomes very blatant when he supposedly dies in one of the games, simply due to the fact that, unlike all the past victims (as well as the fact that this already happened in two [[Film/SawIV previous]] [[Film/{{Jigsaw}} films]] with other killers in the ''Franchise/{{Saw}}'' series), he's never seen getting kidnapped nor is his game itself shown. Also, his surname sounds like "shank" (as in to stab someone in the back), and the fact that he's played by Creator/MaxMinghella (who's already known for playing twist villains) was enough for some people to figure him out as early as the film's trailer came out.

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** ''Film/Spiral2021'': William Schenk being the Spiral Killer becomes very blatant when he supposedly dies in one of the games, simply due to the fact that, unlike all the past victims (as well as the fact that this already happened in two [[Film/SawIV previous]] [[Film/{{Jigsaw}} films]] with other killers in the ''Franchise/{{Saw}}'' series), he's never seen getting kidnapped nor is his game itself shown. Also, his surname sounds like "shank" (as in to stab someone in the back), and the fact that he's played by Creator/MaxMinghella (who's already known for playing twist villains) was enough for some people to figure him out as early as the film's trailer came out.
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** ''Film/Saw3D'': Ever since ''Film/SawII'', a progressively increasing number of viewers had thought (whether it be out of suspicion or as a suggested fan idea) that Dr. Lawrence Gordon might have survived and become an apprentice of Jigsaw, since his ambiguous fate from the first movie's events was referenced in some way in every following one as a sort of MythArc, starting with the figure who performed Michael Marks' eye surgery on the Death Mask video tape from ''Saw II'' (initially meant to be John Kramer) having a notable limp (intended on part of the figure's actor Darren Lynn Bousman, who wanted a flavored movement that showed the progression of John's cancer by the time of the film) comparable to Lawrence's self-amputated leg. Once it became AscendedFanon as the final twist of ''Saw 3D'' (albeit with Lawrence being a more minor accomplice rather than a full-term apprentice), said viewers, in addition to many others, were able to see the reveal coming, not helped by the movie opening with Lawrence losing consciousness after attempting to treat his stump, then showing him midway through completely fine in the Jigsaw Survivor Group meeting, where he gives Bobby Dagen a mocking speech with a rather suspicious tone, followed by Cale referring to him as "the creepy man with the cane" when he talks to Bobby after the meeting.

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** ''Film/Saw3D'': Ever since ''Film/SawII'', a progressively increasing number of viewers had thought (whether it be out of suspicion or as a suggested fan idea) that Dr. Lawrence Gordon might have survived and become an apprentice of Jigsaw, since his ambiguous fate from the first movie's events was referenced in some way in every following one as a sort of MythArc, starting with the figure who performed Michael Marks' eye surgery on the Death Mask video tape from ''Saw II'' (initially meant to be John Kramer) having a notable limp (intended on part of the figure's actor Darren Lynn Bousman, who wanted a flavored movement that showed the progression of John's cancer by the time of the film) comparable to Lawrence's self-amputated leg. Once it became AscendedFanon as the final twist of ''Saw 3D'' (albeit (and thus the final one of the original seven films, albeit with Lawrence being a more minor accomplice rather than a full-term apprentice), said viewers, in addition to many others, were able to see the reveal coming, not helped by the movie opening with Lawrence losing consciousness after attempting to treat his stump, then showing him midway through completely fine in the Jigsaw Survivor Group meeting, where he gives Bobby Dagen a mocking speech with a rather suspicious tone, followed by Cale referring to him as "the creepy man with the cane" when he talks to Bobby after the meeting.
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** ''Film/Saw3D'': Ever since ''Film/SawII'', a progressively increasing number of viewers had thought (whether it be out of suspicion or as a suggested fan idea) that Lawrence Gordon might have survived and become an apprentice of Jigsaw, since his ambiguous fate from the first movie's events was referenced in some way in every following one as a sort of MythArc, starting with the figure who performed Michael Marks' eye surgery on the Death Mask video tape from ''Saw II'' (initially meant to be John Kramer) having a notable limp (intended on part of the figure's actor Darren Lynn Bousman, who wanted a flavored movement that showed the progression of John's cancer by the time of the film) comparable to Lawrence's self-amputated leg. Once it became AscendedFanon as the final twist of ''Saw 3D'' (albeit with Lawrence being a more minor accomplice rather than a full-term apprentice), said viewers, in addition to many others, were able to see the reveal coming, not helped by the movie opening with Lawrence losing consciousness after attempting to treat his stump, then showing him midway through completely fine in the Jigsaw Survivor Group meeting, where he gives Bobby Dagen a mocking speech with a rather suspicious tone, followed by Cale referring to him as "the creepy man with the cane" when he talks to Bobby after the meeting.

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** ''Film/Saw3D'': Ever since ''Film/SawII'', a progressively increasing number of viewers had thought (whether it be out of suspicion or as a suggested fan idea) that Dr. Lawrence Gordon might have survived and become an apprentice of Jigsaw, since his ambiguous fate from the first movie's events was referenced in some way in every following one as a sort of MythArc, starting with the figure who performed Michael Marks' eye surgery on the Death Mask video tape from ''Saw II'' (initially meant to be John Kramer) having a notable limp (intended on part of the figure's actor Darren Lynn Bousman, who wanted a flavored movement that showed the progression of John's cancer by the time of the film) comparable to Lawrence's self-amputated leg. Once it became AscendedFanon as the final twist of ''Saw 3D'' (albeit with Lawrence being a more minor accomplice rather than a full-term apprentice), said viewers, in addition to many others, were able to see the reveal coming, not helped by the movie opening with Lawrence losing consciousness after attempting to treat his stump, then showing him midway through completely fine in the Jigsaw Survivor Group meeting, where he gives Bobby Dagen a mocking speech with a rather suspicious tone, followed by Cale referring to him as "the creepy man with the cane" when he talks to Bobby after the meeting.
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* ''Film/FridayThe13th1980'': A notable example overlapping with AssPull, since it had more to do with the "Judas" in question suddenly appearing rather than how they were foreshadowed as such. Towards the end of a film where the killer's identity has been shrouded in mystery with practically no hints whatsoever, in steps one Pamela Voorhees, claiming to be an old friend of the camp's owner. It doesn't take long before this woman who showed up out of nowhere and with no buildup or explanation reveals herself as the killer, shortly after telling [[FinalGirl Alice]] her [[MamaBear motive]].

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* ''Film/FridayThe13th1980'': A notable example overlapping with AssPull, since it had more to do with the "Judas" in question suddenly appearing rather than how they were foreshadowed as such. Towards the end of a film where the killer's identity has been shrouded in mystery with practically no hints whatsoever, in steps one Pamela Voorhees, claiming to be an old friend of the camp's owner. It doesn't take long before this woman who showed up out of nowhere and with no buildup or explanation reveals herself as the killer, shortly after telling [[FinalGirl Alice]] Alice Hardy]] her [[MamaBear motive]].



** ''Film/Saw3D'': Ever since ''Film/SawII'', a progressively increasing number of viewers had thought (whether it be out of suspicion or as a suggested fan idea) that Lawrence might have survived and become an apprentice of Jigsaw, since his ambiguous fate from the first movie's events was referenced in some way in every following one as a sort of MythArc, starting with the figure who performed Michael's eye surgery on the Death Mask video tape from ''Saw II'' (initially meant to be John) having a notable limp (intended on part of the figure's actor Darren Lynn Bousman, who wanted a flavored movement that showed the progression of John's cancer by the time of the film) comparable to Lawrence's self-amputated leg. Once it became AscendedFanon as the final twist of ''Saw 3D'' (albeit with Lawrence being a more minor accomplice rather than a full-term apprentice), said viewers, in addition to many others, were able to see the reveal coming, not helped by the movie opening with Lawrence losing consciousness after attempting to treat his stump, then showing him midway through completely fine in the Jigsaw Survivor Group meeting, where he gives Bobby a mocking speech with a rather suspicious tone, followed by Cale referring to him as "the creepy man with the cane" when he talks to Bobby after the meeting.

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** ''Film/Saw3D'': Ever since ''Film/SawII'', a progressively increasing number of viewers had thought (whether it be out of suspicion or as a suggested fan idea) that Lawrence Gordon might have survived and become an apprentice of Jigsaw, since his ambiguous fate from the first movie's events was referenced in some way in every following one as a sort of MythArc, starting with the figure who performed Michael's Michael Marks' eye surgery on the Death Mask video tape from ''Saw II'' (initially meant to be John) John Kramer) having a notable limp (intended on part of the figure's actor Darren Lynn Bousman, who wanted a flavored movement that showed the progression of John's cancer by the time of the film) comparable to Lawrence's self-amputated leg. Once it became AscendedFanon as the final twist of ''Saw 3D'' (albeit with Lawrence being a more minor accomplice rather than a full-term apprentice), said viewers, in addition to many others, were able to see the reveal coming, not helped by the movie opening with Lawrence losing consciousness after attempting to treat his stump, then showing him midway through completely fine in the Jigsaw Survivor Group meeting, where he gives Bobby Dagen a mocking speech with a rather suspicious tone, followed by Cale referring to him as "the creepy man with the cane" when he talks to Bobby after the meeting.
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** ''Film/Saw3D'': Ever since ''Film/SawII'', a progressively increasing number of viewers had thought (whether it be out of suspicion or as a suggested fan idea) that Lawrence might have survived and become an apprentice of Jigsaw, since his ambiguous fate from the first movie's events was referenced in some way in every following one as a sort of MythArc, starting with the figure who performed Michael's eye surgery on the Death Mask video tape from ''Saw II'' (initially meant to be John) having a notable limp (intended on part of the figure's actor Darren Lynn Bousman, who wanted a flavored movement that showed the progression of John's cancer by the time of the film) comparable to Lawrence's self-amputated leg. Once it became AscendedFanon as the final twist of ''Saw 3D'', said viewers, in addition to many others, were able to see the reveal coming, not helped by the movie opening with Lawrence losing consciousness after attempting to treat his stump, then showing him midway through completely fine in the Jigsaw Survivor Group meeting, where he gives Bobby a mocking speech with a rather suspicious tone, followed by Cale referring to him as "the creepy man with the cane" when he talks to Bobby after the meeting.

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** ''Film/Saw3D'': Ever since ''Film/SawII'', a progressively increasing number of viewers had thought (whether it be out of suspicion or as a suggested fan idea) that Lawrence might have survived and become an apprentice of Jigsaw, since his ambiguous fate from the first movie's events was referenced in some way in every following one as a sort of MythArc, starting with the figure who performed Michael's eye surgery on the Death Mask video tape from ''Saw II'' (initially meant to be John) having a notable limp (intended on part of the figure's actor Darren Lynn Bousman, who wanted a flavored movement that showed the progression of John's cancer by the time of the film) comparable to Lawrence's self-amputated leg. Once it became AscendedFanon as the final twist of ''Saw 3D'', 3D'' (albeit with Lawrence being a more minor accomplice rather than a full-term apprentice), said viewers, in addition to many others, were able to see the reveal coming, not helped by the movie opening with Lawrence losing consciousness after attempting to treat his stump, then showing him midway through completely fine in the Jigsaw Survivor Group meeting, where he gives Bobby a mocking speech with a rather suspicious tone, followed by Cale referring to him as "the creepy man with the cane" when he talks to Bobby after the meeting.
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* ''Film/FridayThe13th1980'': A notable example overlapping with AssPull, since it had more to do with the "Judas" in question suddenly appearing rather than how they were foreshadowed as such. Towards the end of a film where the killer's identity has been shrouded in mystery with practically no hints whatsoever, in steps one Pamela Voorhees, claiming to be an old friend of the camp's owner. It doesn't take long before this woman who showed up out of nowhere and with no buildup or explanation reveals herself as the killer, shortly after telling the FinalGirl her [[MamaBear motive]].

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* ''Film/FridayThe13th1980'': A notable example overlapping with AssPull, since it had more to do with the "Judas" in question suddenly appearing rather than how they were foreshadowed as such. Towards the end of a film where the killer's identity has been shrouded in mystery with practically no hints whatsoever, in steps one Pamela Voorhees, claiming to be an old friend of the camp's owner. It doesn't take long before this woman who showed up out of nowhere and with no buildup or explanation reveals herself as the killer, shortly after telling the FinalGirl [[FinalGirl Alice]] her [[MamaBear motive]].
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* ''Film/FridayThe13th1980'': An example overlapping with AssPull. Towards the end of a film where the killer's identity has been shrouded in mystery, in steps one Pamela Voorhees, claiming to be an old friend of the camp's owner. It doesn't take long before this woman who showed up out of nowhere and with no buildup or explanation reveals herself as the killer, shortly after telling the FinalGirl her [[MamaBear motive]].

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* ''Film/FridayThe13th1980'': An A notable example overlapping with AssPull. AssPull, since it had more to do with the "Judas" in question suddenly appearing rather than how they were foreshadowed as such. Towards the end of a film where the killer's identity has been shrouded in mystery, mystery with practically no hints whatsoever, in steps one Pamela Voorhees, claiming to be an old friend of the camp's owner. It doesn't take long before this woman who showed up out of nowhere and with no buildup or explanation reveals herself as the killer, shortly after telling the FinalGirl her [[MamaBear motive]].
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* ''Film/FridayThe13th1980'': Towards the end of a film where the killer's identity has been shrouded in mystery, in steps one Pamela Voorhees, claiming to be an old friend of the camp's owner. It doesn't take long before this woman who showed up out of nowhere and with no buildup or explanation reveals herself as the killer, shortly after telling the FinalGirl her [[MamaBear motive]].

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* ''Film/FridayThe13th1980'': An example overlapping with AssPull. Towards the end of a film where the killer's identity has been shrouded in mystery, in steps one Pamela Voorhees, claiming to be an old friend of the camp's owner. It doesn't take long before this woman who showed up out of nowhere and with no buildup or explanation reveals herself as the killer, shortly after telling the FinalGirl her [[MamaBear motive]].

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* August Walker from ''Film/MissionImpossibleFallout''. He's openly antagonistic to Ethan and the team, he expresses very little concern about human life, he accuses Ethan of being TheMole with clearly fake evidence, and he gets several [[TraitorShot ominous closeups]] during otherwise innocuous scenes.

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* August Walker from ''Film/MissionImpossibleFallout''. He's openly antagonistic to Ethan and the team, he expresses very little concern about human life, he accuses Ethan of being TheMole with clearly fake evidence, and he gets several [[TraitorShot ominous closeups]] close-ups]] during otherwise innocuous scenes.scenes.
* ''Franchise/{{Saw}}'':
** ''Film/Saw3D'': Ever since ''Film/SawII'', a progressively increasing number of viewers had thought (whether it be out of suspicion or as a suggested fan idea) that Lawrence might have survived and become an apprentice of Jigsaw, since his ambiguous fate from the first movie's events was referenced in some way in every following one as a sort of MythArc, starting with the figure who performed Michael's eye surgery on the Death Mask video tape from ''Saw II'' (initially meant to be John) having a notable limp (intended on part of the figure's actor Darren Lynn Bousman, who wanted a flavored movement that showed the progression of John's cancer by the time of the film) comparable to Lawrence's self-amputated leg. Once it became AscendedFanon as the final twist of ''Saw 3D'', said viewers, in addition to many others, were able to see the reveal coming, not helped by the movie opening with Lawrence losing consciousness after attempting to treat his stump, then showing him midway through completely fine in the Jigsaw Survivor Group meeting, where he gives Bobby a mocking speech with a rather suspicious tone, followed by Cale referring to him as "the creepy man with the cane" when he talks to Bobby after the meeting.
** ''Film/Spiral2021'': William Schenk being the Spiral Killer becomes very blatant when he supposedly dies in one of the games, simply due to the fact that, unlike all the past victims (as well as the fact that this already happened in two [[Film/SawIV previous]] [[Film/{{Jigsaw}} films]] with other killers in the ''Franchise/{{Saw}}'' series), he's never seen getting kidnapped nor is his game itself shown. Also, his surname sounds like "shank" (as in to stab someone in the back), and the fact that he's played by Creator/MaxMinghella (who's already known for playing twist villains) was enough for some people to figure him out as early as the film's trailer came out.



* ''Film/Spiral2021'': William Schenk being the Spiral Killer becomes very blatant when he supposedly dies in one of the games, simply due to the fact that, unlike all the past victims (as well as the fact that this already happened in two [[Film/SawIV previous]] [[Film/{{Jigsaw}} films]] with other killers in the ''Franchise/{{Saw}}'' series), he's never seen getting kidnapped nor is his game itself shown. Also, his surname sounds like "shank" (as in to stab someone in the back), and the fact that he's played by Creator/MaxMinghella (who's already known for playing twist villains) was enough for some people to figure him out as early as the film's trailer came out.
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* They frequently monologue about how [[WellIntentionedExtremist the world is imperfect, corrupt and needs to be cleansed of its impurities]].

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* ''Film/TheMalteseFalcon1941'': We're supposed to be surprised when it turns out Brigid's the one who killed Sam Spade's partner, Miles Archer, but considering how suspicious she was for the majority of the film, and the fact that even Sam himself didn't trust her for those reasons, the twist should have been pretty obvious.

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* In the film ''Film/{{Geostorm}}'' the secret villain turns out to be Secretary of State Dekkom, who is played by Creator/EdHarris (one of the go-to actors for government bad guys), acts super suspicious, and is given lots of screen time for someone in a supposedly small role.
* Mills and Wheatley from ''Film/JurassicWorldFallenKingdom'' betray the heroes (minus Zia who was critical to keep an injured Blue alive) and left them to die on an exploding Isla Nublar. Mills is a creepy-looking, shifty guy who doesn't really seem very trustworthy and Wheatley is an arrogant EgomaniacHunter who's very condescending and rude toward the good guys, particularly Zia and Franklin.

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* ''Film/FantasticFour2015'': Even those viewers unfamiliar with the comic book source material can't have been too shocked when one member of the group of friends turned out to be the villain... the guy named '''[[DrFakenstein Dr. Victor]] [[DarknessVonGothickname von]] {{Doom|yDoomsOfDoom}}'''.
* ''Film/FridayThe13th1980'': Towards the end of a film where the killer's identity has been shrouded in mystery, in steps one Pamela Voorhees, claiming to be an old friend of the camp's owner. It doesn't take long before this woman who showed up out of nowhere and with no buildup or explanation reveals herself as the killer, shortly after telling the FinalGirl her [[MamaBear motive]].
* In the film ''Film/{{Geostorm}}'' ''Film/{{Geostorm}}'', the secret villain turns out to be Secretary of State Dekkom, who is played by Creator/EdHarris (one of the go-to actors for government bad guys), acts super suspicious, and is given lots of screen time for someone in a supposedly small role.
* Mills and Wheatley from ''Film/JurassicWorldFallenKingdom'' betray the heroes (minus Zia Zia, who was critical to keep an injured Blue alive) and left them to die on an exploding Isla Nublar. Mills is a creepy-looking, shifty shifty, creepy-looking guy who doesn't really seem very trustworthy trustworthy, and Wheatley is an arrogant EgomaniacHunter who's very condescending and rude toward the good guys, particularly Zia and Franklin.



* Cypher in ''Film/TheMatrix'' has a shifty vibe from the beginning, solidified when he tells Neo, "Why oh why didn't I take the ''blue'' pill?" In the next scene, he's shown making a deal with the Agents- if he turns over Morpheus, who knows the codes to Zion, Cypher will be allowed to return to the Matrix. Even [[LouisCypher his name]] is a warning sign.

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* Cypher in ''Film/TheMatrix'' has a shifty vibe from the beginning, solidified when he tells Neo, "Why oh why didn't I take the ''blue'' pill?" In the next scene, he's shown making a deal with the Agents- Agents -- if he turns over Morpheus, who knows the codes to Zion, Cypher will be allowed to return to the Matrix. Even [[LouisCypher his name]] is a warning sign.



* ''Film/FantasticFour2015'': Even those viewers unfamiliar with the comic book source material can't have been too shocked when one member of the group of friends turned out to be the villain... the guy named '''[[DrFakenstein Dr. Victor]] [[DarknessVonGothickname von]] {{Doom|yDoomsOfDoom}}'''.
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* Kai from ''Anime/{{Beyblade}}''. He barely tolerated his teammates, and gave off the impression that they were beneath him and his talent. The only thing that makes his teammates' shock at his betrayal remotely believable is that such a low, petty thing as stabbing them in the back in exchange for being ''given'' power seems strange coming from someone as openly confrontational, arrogant and self-reliant as Kai.

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* Kai from ''Anime/{{Beyblade}}''.''Anime/BakutenShootBeyblade''. He barely tolerated his teammates, and gave off the impression that they were beneath him and his talent. The only thing that makes his teammates' shock at his betrayal remotely believable is that such a low, petty thing as stabbing them in the back in exchange for being ''given'' power seems strange coming from someone as openly confrontational, arrogant and self-reliant as Kai.
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* Jaern in ''VideoGame/PokemonInsurgence'' is introduced as the second Augur, the BigGood of the Torren region...who just so ''happened'' to be there to step up to the position after the mysterious disappearance of the first Augur, apparently wants people to give him gifts when he visits their towns, has set up statues of himself everywhere, and dispatches a couple would-be assassins with a spell that [[BilingualBonus translates to]] "bonds of death" while assuring the populace he just teleported them to jail. Needless to say, it's hardly a surprise when he turns out to be a VillainWithGoodPublicity.
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'''Lysanderoth:''' ''(wearing a monocle and sporting a moustache)'' [[NonStandardIntroduction This world is imperfect...]]\\

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'''Lysanderoth:''' ''(wearing a monocle and sporting a moustache)'' This world is imperfect...\\
'''Dennis:''' What?\\

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'''Lysanderoth:''' ''(wearing a monocle and sporting a moustache)'' [[NonStandardIntroduction This world is imperfect...\\
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'''Dennis:''' What?\\[[FlatWhat What?]]\\
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-->'''Angel:''' I know this is going to sound pretentious, but one of you is going to betray me tonight.\\
'''Spike:''' ''[raises hand]'' Ooh! That's me!\\
'''Angel:''' --Wesley.\\
'''Spike:''' Aw. Can I at least deny you three times?

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-->'''Angel:''' I know this is going to sound This may come out a little pretentious, but one of you is going to will betray me tonight.me.\\
'''Spike:''' ''[raises hand]'' Ooh! That's me!\\
hand eagerly]''\\
'''Angel:''' --Wesley.--Wes.\\
'''Spike:''' Aw. Oh! Can I at least deny you three times?
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* In the 1954 adaptation of ''Literature/AnimalFarm'', the design of Napoleon makes it far too evident that he is or will become the bad guy, especially if you compare him with the other pigs.

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* In the 1954 adaptation of ''Literature/AnimalFarm'', ''WesternAnimation/AnimalFarm1954'', the design of Napoleon makes it far too evident that he is or will become the bad guy, especially if you compare him with the other pigs.
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-->-- '''Creator/ProZD''', "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DN9DW4rrEjY when you start a new game and you meet the character you know is going to betray you]]"

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-->-- '''Creator/ProZD''', '''WebVideo/ProZD''', "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DN9DW4rrEjY when you start a new game and you meet the character you know is going to betray you]]"



* Parodied by Creator/ProZD's King Dragon Canon with Lysanderoth (named after fellow Obvious Judas, [[VideoGame/PokemonXAndY Lysandre]]), who makes his [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DN9DW4rrEjY first appearance]] speaking ominously about his desire to 'wipe away the impurities' of the world. Also, he wears a [[HighClassGlass monocle]] and has an evil mustache. Dennis the player is instantly suspicious of Lysanderoth's tangent during the first meeting with the PlayerCharacter. In-Universe, [[spoiler:after he kills Archibald]], the rest of the party is surprised to discover that he is TheMole. [[OnlySaneMan Dennis, however, is unimpressed]], especially when he replays the game and already knows the PlotTwist coming. In his further scenes, Lysanderoth makes blatant remarks hinting at his betrayal, making it even more obvious.

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* Parodied by Creator/ProZD's WebVideo/ProZD's King Dragon Canon with Lysanderoth (named after fellow Obvious Judas, [[VideoGame/PokemonXAndY Lysandre]]), who makes his [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DN9DW4rrEjY first appearance]] speaking ominously about his desire to 'wipe away the impurities' of the world. Also, he wears a [[HighClassGlass monocle]] and has an evil mustache. Dennis the player is instantly suspicious of Lysanderoth's tangent during the first meeting with the PlayerCharacter. In-Universe, [[spoiler:after he kills Archibald]], the rest of the party is surprised to discover that he is TheMole. [[OnlySaneMan Dennis, however, is unimpressed]], especially when he replays the game and already knows the PlotTwist coming. In his further scenes, Lysanderoth makes blatant remarks hinting at his betrayal, making it even more obvious.
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* ''Film/Spiral2021'': Schenk being the Spiral Killer becomes very blatant when he supposedly dies in one of the games, simply due to the fact that, unlike all the past victims (as well as the fact that this already happened in two [[Film/SawIV previous]] [[Film/{{Jigsaw}} films]] with other killers in the ''Franchise/{{Saw}}'' series), he's never seen getting kidnapped nor is his game itself shown. Also, his surname sounds like "shank" (as in to stab someone in the back), and the fact that he's played by Creator/MaxMinghella (who's already known for playing twist villains) was enough for some people to figure him out as early as the film's trailer came out.

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* ''Film/Spiral2021'': William Schenk being the Spiral Killer becomes very blatant when he supposedly dies in one of the games, simply due to the fact that, unlike all the past victims (as well as the fact that this already happened in two [[Film/SawIV previous]] [[Film/{{Jigsaw}} films]] with other killers in the ''Franchise/{{Saw}}'' series), he's never seen getting kidnapped nor is his game itself shown. Also, his surname sounds like "shank" (as in to stab someone in the back), and the fact that he's played by Creator/MaxMinghella (who's already known for playing twist villains) was enough for some people to figure him out as early as the film's trailer came out.
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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Amphibia}}'': King Andrias Leviathan's status as the series' WalkingSpoiler villain was so blatantly and excessively foreshadowed that viewers started making many theories about him right after his first appearance, where he's seen moving a chess piece resembling protagonist Anne Boonchuy on a chessboard, and then kneeling down to a sinister-looking entity, which is later revealed to be The Core. And that's without mentioning the indications present in Andrias' aesthetic, as he's covered in dark-colored, battle-scarred armor, has [[WhiteHairBlackHeart white hair and a beard]], and is voiced by Keith David, who's known to have portrayed numerous villains in his career. Andrais' last name is also a dead giveaway, since "leviathan" is a word used to describe autocratic monarchs who are tyrants. When the final Season 2 episode was announced to be titled "True Colors", the betrayal Andrias was going to commit was basically spoiled out, and became not as exciting of a twist as the reveal that Marcy Wu duped her friends into going to Amphibia because she didn't want to lose them from moving away from home.

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Amphibia}}'': King Andrias Leviathan's status as the series' WalkingSpoiler villain was so blatantly and excessively foreshadowed that viewers started making many theories about him right after his first appearance, where he's seen moving a chess piece resembling protagonist Anne Boonchuy on a chessboard, and then kneeling down to a sinister-looking entity, which is later revealed to be The Core. And that's without mentioning the indications present in Andrias' aesthetic, as he's covered in dark-colored, battle-scarred armor, has [[WhiteHairBlackHeart white hair and a beard]], and is voiced by Keith David, who's known to have portrayed numerous villains in his career. Andrais' Andrias' last name is also a dead giveaway, since "leviathan" is a word used to describe autocratic monarchs who are tyrants. When the final Season 2 episode was announced to be titled "True Colors", the betrayal Andrias was going to commit was basically spoiled out, and became not as exciting of a twist as the reveal that Marcy Wu duped her friends into going to Amphibia because she didn't want to lose them from moving away from home.
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Correcting the spelling of Andrias' name in the Amphibia example.


* ''WesternAnimation/{{Amphibia}}'': King Andrais Leviathan's status as the series' WalkingSpoiler villain was so blatantly and excessively foreshadowed that viewers started making many theories about him right after his first appearance, where he's seen moving a chess piece resembling protagonist Anne Boonchuy on a chessboard, and then kneeling down to a sinister-looking entity, which is later revealed to be The Core. And that's without mentioning the indications present in Andrais' aesthetic, as he's covered in dark-colored, battle-scarred armor, has [[WhiteHairBlackHeart white hair and a beard]], and is voiced by Keith David, who's known to have portrayed numerous villains in his career. Andrais' last name is also a dead giveaway, since "leviathan" is a word used to describe autocratic monarchs who are tyrants. When the final Season 2 episode was announced to be titled "True Colors", the betrayal Andrais was going to commit was basically spoiled out, and became not as exciting of a twist as the reveal that Marcy Wu duped her friends into going to Amphibia because she didn't want to lose them from moving away from home.

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Amphibia}}'': King Andrais Andrias Leviathan's status as the series' WalkingSpoiler villain was so blatantly and excessively foreshadowed that viewers started making many theories about him right after his first appearance, where he's seen moving a chess piece resembling protagonist Anne Boonchuy on a chessboard, and then kneeling down to a sinister-looking entity, which is later revealed to be The Core. And that's without mentioning the indications present in Andrais' Andrias' aesthetic, as he's covered in dark-colored, battle-scarred armor, has [[WhiteHairBlackHeart white hair and a beard]], and is voiced by Keith David, who's known to have portrayed numerous villains in his career. Andrais' last name is also a dead giveaway, since "leviathan" is a word used to describe autocratic monarchs who are tyrants. When the final Season 2 episode was announced to be titled "True Colors", the betrayal Andrais Andrias was going to commit was basically spoiled out, and became not as exciting of a twist as the reveal that Marcy Wu duped her friends into going to Amphibia because she didn't want to lose them from moving away from home.
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* ''Film/Spiral2021'': Schenk being the Spiral Killer becomes very blatant when he supposedly dies in one of the games, simply due to the fact that, unlike all the past victims (as well as the fact that this already happened in two [[Film/SawIV previous]] [[Film/{{Jigsaw}} films]] with other killers in the ''Franchise/{{Saw}}'' series), he's never seen getting kidnapped nor is his game itself shown. Also, his surname sounds like "shank", as in to stab someone in the back.
* A ForegoneConclusion in the ''Franchise/StarWars'' prequels, but as early as ''[[Film/AttackOfTheClones Episode II]]'', Anakin Skywalker was wearing dark robes as a contrast to the light brown ones of his mentor Obi-Wan Kenobi, as well as almost every other Jedi that appears. He's also more angry and impulsive than the other Jedi (something which is repeatedly pointed out), and by the end of ''Episode II'', has broken almost every part of the Jedi code by slaughtering noncombatants and children and getting married. If you were surprised that he became Darth Vader at the end of ''[[Film/RevengeOfTheSith Episode III]]'', you were not only [[PopculturalOsmosisFailure living under a rock for years]], you weren't paying attention to some really heavy-duty {{Foreshadowing}}.

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* ''Film/Spiral2021'': Schenk being the Spiral Killer becomes very blatant when he supposedly dies in one of the games, simply due to the fact that, unlike all the past victims (as well as the fact that this already happened in two [[Film/SawIV previous]] [[Film/{{Jigsaw}} films]] with other killers in the ''Franchise/{{Saw}}'' series), he's never seen getting kidnapped nor is his game itself shown. Also, his surname sounds like "shank", as "shank" (as in to stab someone in the back.
back), and the fact that he's played by Creator/MaxMinghella (who's already known for playing twist villains) was enough for some people to figure him out as early as the film's trailer came out.
* A ForegoneConclusion in the ''Franchise/StarWars'' prequels, but as early as ''[[Film/AttackOfTheClones Episode II]]'', II: Attack of the Clones]]'', Anakin Skywalker was wearing dark robes as a contrast to the light brown ones of his mentor Obi-Wan Kenobi, as well as almost every other Jedi that appears. He's also more angry and impulsive than the other Jedi (something which is repeatedly pointed out), and by the end of ''Episode II'', ''Attack of the Clones'', has broken almost every part of the Jedi code by slaughtering noncombatants non-combatants and children and getting married. If you were surprised that he became Darth Vader at the end of ''[[Film/RevengeOfTheSith Episode III]]'', you were III: Revenge of the Sith]]'', not only [[PopculturalOsmosisFailure were you [[PopCulturalOsmosisFailure living under a rock for years]], you weren't paying didn't pay attention to some really heavy-duty {{Foreshadowing}}.{{Foreshadowing}} either.
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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Amphibia}}'': King Andrais Leviathan's status as the series' WalkingSpoiler villain was so blatantly and excessively foreshadowed that viewers started making many theories about him right after his first appearance, where he's seen moving a chess piece resembling protagonist Anne Boonchuy on a chessboard, and then kneeling down to a sinister-looking entity, which is later revealed to be The Core. And that's without mentioning the indications present in Andrais' aesthetic, as he's covered in dark-colored, battle-scarred armor, has [[WhiteHairBlackHeart white hair and a beard]], and is voiced by Keith David, who's known to have portrayed numerous villains in his career. Andrais' last name is also a dead giveaway, since "leviathan" is a word used to describe autocratic monarchs who are tyrants. When the Season 2 finale's episode was announced to be titled "True Colors", the betrayal Andrais was going to commit was basically spoiled out, and became not as exciting of a twist as the reveal that Marcy Wu duped her friends into going to Amphibia because she didn't want to lose them from moving away from home.

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Amphibia}}'': King Andrais Leviathan's status as the series' WalkingSpoiler villain was so blatantly and excessively foreshadowed that viewers started making many theories about him right after his first appearance, where he's seen moving a chess piece resembling protagonist Anne Boonchuy on a chessboard, and then kneeling down to a sinister-looking entity, which is later revealed to be The Core. And that's without mentioning the indications present in Andrais' aesthetic, as he's covered in dark-colored, battle-scarred armor, has [[WhiteHairBlackHeart white hair and a beard]], and is voiced by Keith David, who's known to have portrayed numerous villains in his career. Andrais' last name is also a dead giveaway, since "leviathan" is a word used to describe autocratic monarchs who are tyrants. When the final Season 2 finale's episode was announced to be titled "True Colors", the betrayal Andrais was going to commit was basically spoiled out, and became not as exciting of a twist as the reveal that Marcy Wu duped her friends into going to Amphibia because she didn't want to lose them from moving away from home.

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* They wear an OminousOperaCape.
** They wear ScaryShinyGlasses.

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* They wear an OminousOperaCape.
** They wear
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* In ''WesternAnimation/AtlantisTheLostEmpire'', Rourke's status as the villain should probably be evident to anyone vaguely familiar with this kind of film: the macho guy in the military uniform with the FemmeFatale girlfriend on an archaeology expedition that preaches the value of understanding is probably the bad guy, especially since the movie [[OnlyOnePlausibleSuspect doesn't really have another character to fill the antagonist role]]. He's also not involved in a scene focusing around the whole crew bonding, which alone should be a red flag. Once he's said "this changes ''nothing''" upon learning there are people in the ruins, it's pretty much confirmed. What's ''somewhat'' more surprising, albeit less plot-relevant, is the reveal that the rest of the crew aside from Milo was in on it with Rourke (albeit briefly). When Rourke pulls a gun on Milo, Milo isn't so much surprised as he's angry with himself for not realizing Rourke probably came for more than the scenery.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/AtlantisTheLostEmpire'', Rourke's status as the villain should probably be evident to anyone vaguely familiar with this kind of film: the macho guy in the military uniform with the FemmeFatale girlfriend on an archaeology expedition that preaches the value of understanding is probably the bad guy, especially since the movie [[OnlyOnePlausibleSuspect doesn't really have another character to fill the antagonist role]]. He's also not involved in a scene focusing around where the whole crew bonding, bonds, which alone should be a red flag. Once he's said "this changes ''nothing''" upon learning there are people in the ruins, it's pretty much confirmed. What's ''somewhat'' more surprising, albeit less plot-relevant, is the reveal that the rest of the crew aside from Milo was in on it with Rourke (albeit briefly). When Rourke pulls a gun on Milo, Milo isn't so much surprised as he's angry with himself for not realizing Rourke probably came for more than the scenery.

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