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** And so, TelevisionIsTryingToKillUs. The real-life lesson taught to all medical providers is summed up as, "When you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras." [[CompletelyMissingThePoint Unless you're in Africa.]] In other words, when a patient comes in with a set of signs and symptoms, start looking for the common sources of those signs and symptoms before you start thinking about weird diseases. From a patient care viewpoint, it makes sense; if someone comes into the ER with low blood sugar and altered mental status, starting immediate treatment for diabetic shock is almost always better than figuring out all the other strange ways the patient might have low blood sugar and AMS. The problem is that thanks to Hollywood and the news, "millions of diabetics averting catastrophe and remaining fairly healthy thanks to managed diet, exercise, insulin," isn't news, but "man dies of rare illness doctors mistook for diabetes," is. The public winds up WrongGenreSavvy, often thinking they have weird diseases rather than simple ones, or else expecting whole battery of tests when the answer is obvious from just a couple of blood tests and a quick examination. [[Series/{{House}} Dr. House]] hasn't helped matters much, and countless medical practitioners subtly curse that show (even if we're some of the biggest fans). So ([[EaglelandOsmosis should you be an American)]], yeah, you will likely know one person in your life with Tay-Sachs, Gauchier's, Huntington's, or something equally rare. [[http://www.cdc.gov/NCHS/data/nvsr/nvsr58/nvsr58_19.pdf Almost everyone]] else you know will die to cardiovascular disease, malignant neoplasms, kidney or mental diseases, liver failure, the flu, and the occasional accident, murder, or suicide.

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** And so, TelevisionIsTryingToKillUs. The real-life lesson taught to all medical providers is summed up as, "When you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras." [[CompletelyMissingThePoint Unless you're in Africa.]] In other words, when a patient comes in with a set of signs and symptoms, start looking for the common sources of those signs and symptoms before you start thinking about weird diseases. From a patient care viewpoint, it makes sense; if someone comes into the ER with low blood sugar and altered mental status, starting immediate treatment for diabetic shock is almost always better than figuring out all the other strange ways the patient might have low blood sugar and AMS. The problem is that thanks to Hollywood and the news, "millions of diabetics averting catastrophe and remaining fairly healthy thanks to managed diet, exercise, insulin," isn't news, but "man dies of rare illness doctors mistook for diabetes," is. The public winds up WrongGenreSavvy, often thinking they have weird diseases rather than simple ones, or else expecting whole battery of tests when the answer is obvious from just a couple of blood tests and a quick examination. [[Series/{{House}} Dr. House]] hasn't helped matters much, and countless medical practitioners subtly curse that show (even if we're they're some of the biggest fans). So ([[EaglelandOsmosis should you be an American)]], yeah, you will likely know one person in your life with Tay-Sachs, Gauchier's, Huntington's, or something equally rare. [[http://www.cdc.gov/NCHS/data/nvsr/nvsr58/nvsr58_19.pdf Almost everyone]] else you know will die to cardiovascular disease, malignant neoplasms, kidney or mental diseases, liver failure, the flu, and the occasional accident, murder, or suicide.
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*** There's also a discussion on the definition of probability here, where frequentists will claim the true probability is the same - we just calculated it incorrectly. Another group disagrees and has a different definition. But that's a separate discussion.
* Rare diseases deserve a mention here. It's true that there are diseases that affect only one in every 10,000 or 100,000 people, but it's also true that ''hundreds'' of these conditions have been identified, and there are almost certainly hundreds more that are as yet unidentified. So don't be shocked if you or someone you know is diagnosed with a rare disease - perhaps *that* disease is rare, but rare diseases in total affect a lot of people. Odds are you know or will know someone with one.

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*** There's also a discussion on the definition of probability here, where frequentists will claim the true probability is the same - we it's just calculated it incorrectly. Another group disagrees and has a different definition. But that's a separate discussion.
* Rare diseases deserve a mention here. It's true that there are diseases that affect only one in every 10,000 or 100,000 people, but it's also true that ''hundreds'' of these conditions have been identified, and there are almost certainly hundreds more that are as yet unidentified. So don't be shocked if you or someone you know is diagnosed with a rare disease - perhaps *that* ''that'' disease is rare, but rare diseases in total affect a lot of people. Odds are you know or will know someone with one.

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* An exception to the rule is perhaps worth mention here. [[http://www.boingboing.net/2008/09/04/lhc-will-not-destroy.html One scientist]] has said that the Large Hadron Collider has less than a one in a billion * billion chance of destroying the world. Far more energetic events (meteoric impacts, volcanic eruptions, earthquakes, etc.) take place on Earth on a regular basis. Yet the [[GenreSavvy invocation of this]] [[WrongGenreSavvy trope to real life]] makes that chance seem far scarier than it should. (The same scientist said, likely tongue-in-cheek, that one has a one in a hundred billion chance of spontaneously evaporating while shaving. It's probably less than that.)

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* An exception to the rule is perhaps worth mention here. [[http://www.boingboing.net/2008/09/04/lhc-will-not-destroy.html One scientist]] has said that the Large Hadron Collider has less than a one in a billion * billion 10^billion*billion chance of destroying the world. Far more energetic events (meteoric impacts, volcanic eruptions, earthquakes, etc.) take place on Earth on a regular basis. Yet the [[GenreSavvy invocation of this]] [[WrongGenreSavvy trope to real life]] makes that chance seem far scarier than it should. (The same scientist said, likely tongue-in-cheek, that one has a one in a hundred billion chance of spontaneously evaporating while shaving. It's probably less than that.)



** This was most likely misprinted, and should have been one in 10^billion*billion. That is, a one followed by a billion times a billion zeroes. Of course, this doesn't account for such things as it being physically quite easy to destroy the Earth, and all the physicists just forgot about those laws, along with many other highly unlikely but still much more likely possibilities.
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* In ''VideoGame/{{Discworld}}'', Rincewind has to collect a number of {{Plot Coupon}}s (tattoo, sword that goes *ting*, secret identity, camouflage...), but not before determining, with the aid of Nobby, which ones would land his chance of success at exactly a million to one.

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* In ''VideoGame/{{Discworld}}'', Rincewind has to collect a number of {{Plot Coupon}}s (tattoo, sword that goes *ting*, ''ting'', secret identity, camouflage...), but not before determining, with the aid of Nobby, which ones would land his chance of success at exactly a million to one.



-->'''Vaarsuvius''': *sigh* And once again, Probability proves itself willing to sneak into a back alley and service Drama as would a copper-piece harlot.

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-->'''Vaarsuvius''': *sigh* ''(sigh)'' And once again, Probability proves itself willing to sneak into a back alley and service Drama as would a copper-piece harlot.

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* I guess this is sort of lampshading and subverting? In Covert Affairs at the end of season 1, Annie is [[spoiler: undercover in London and needs to lose a lot of money in a non-suspicious way so that she will not be allowed to the leave the country. She loses all her money playing craps, then takes out a loan for a few thousand dollars, and bets it all on snake eyes, which is of course very risky. She acts confident that she'll win but is secretly hoping she'll lose. The roll comes up snake eyes so now she has lots and lots of money. Now she has to look outwardly relieved, although internally she's freaking out because the whole point was to rack up massive debts. She bets it all on snake eyes again, and luckily this time, she loses.]]

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* I guess this is sort of lampshading and subverting? Played with: In Covert Affairs ''Series/CovertAffairs'' at the end of season 1, Annie is [[spoiler: undercover in London and needs to lose a lot of money money, in a non-suspicious way way, so that she will not be allowed to the leave the country. She loses all her money playing craps, then takes out a loan for a few thousand dollars, and bets it all on snake eyes, which eyes -which is of course very risky. She acts confident that she'll win win, but is secretly hoping she'll lose. The roll comes up snake eyes so now she has lots and lots of money. Now she has to look outwardly relieved, although eyes. She cheers, but internally she's freaking out because the whole point was to rack up massive debts. She bets it all on snake eyes again, and luckily this his time, she loses.]]
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** A rare ''aversion'' is in "Errand of Mercy". Kirk decides to break into the Klingon headquarters and kidnap the commander. Spock calculates very long odds against success. They get as far as the commander's office--and are captured.[[hottip:*:Because the Klingon Empire is a PoliceState, everyone--including the commander--is under constant surveillance. The commander's {{Monologuing}} is actually playing for time until Klingon security arrives.]] Kirk and Spock are only saved by the Organian DeusExMachina.

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** A rare ''aversion'' is in "Errand of Mercy". Kirk decides to break into the Klingon headquarters and kidnap the commander. Spock calculates very long odds against success. They get as far as the commander's office--and are captured.[[hottip:*:Because [[note]]Because the Klingon Empire is a PoliceState, everyone--including the commander--is under constant surveillance. The commander's {{Monologuing}} is actually playing for time until Klingon security arrives.]] [[/note]] Kirk and Spock are only saved by the Organian DeusExMachina.
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** I think in the Hitchhiker's guide universe, most probabilities are distinct (ie rarely do two highly improbable events have the same probability) which is why it's possible to specify the event you want to occur using a finite/infinite improbability drive. You induce all events with that probability, but usually there's only one or the side-effects of the others are trivial or at least benign. What's even more mindboggling is that the probability that a particularly notable improbable event will have a probability whose digits are particularly notable [[spoiler: such as Ford and Arthur being rescued / 1 over 2 to the phone number of the party where Arthur first met Trillian]] is itself a number which can be plugged into the drive.

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** I think in In the Hitchhiker's guide universe, most probabilities are distinct (ie rarely do two highly improbable events have the same probability) which is why it's possible to specify the event you want to occur using a finite/infinite improbability drive. You induce all events with that probability, but usually there's only one or the side-effects of the others are trivial or at least benign. What's even more mindboggling is that the probability that a particularly notable improbable event will have a probability whose digits are particularly notable [[spoiler: such as Ford and Arthur being rescued / 1 over 2 to the phone number of the party where Arthur first met Trillian]] is itself a number which can be plugged into the drive.



*** [[FridgeLogic So how high is the probability nothing unusual happens?]]

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*** ** [[FridgeLogic So how How high is the probability nothing unusual happens?]]
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* A running theme in the Literature/{{Discworld}} novels.

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* A running theme in the Literature/{{Discworld}} ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' novels.



** In the very next book, Death informs the mages that Rincewind has exactly one chance in a million of returning from the Dungeon Dimensions. At this stage, the book doesn't even bother to remind the reader of the rule.

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** In the very next book, book ''Discworld/{{Eric}}'', Death informs the mages that Rincewind has exactly one chance in a million of returning from the Dungeon Dimensions. At this stage, the book doesn't even bother to remind the reader of the rule.

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* In ''Film/RunLolaRun'', [[spoiler: Lola wins back-to-back spins at roulette on the number 20. Not exactly one in a million, but one in 1,369 -- A 0.073% chance of happening]].
** ''Run Lola Run'' is an interesting case. Because we see multiple outcomes of the same situation, they probably all happened. The other possibilities are just not shown.

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* In ''Film/RunLolaRun'', [[spoiler: Lola wins back-to-back spins at roulette on the number 20. Not exactly one in a million, but one in 1,369 -- A 0.073% chance of happening]].
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happening]]. This film is an interesting case. Because we see multiple outcomes of the same situation, situation are shown, they probably all happened. The other possibilities are just not shown.
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* [[Film/TheLordOfTheRings "Certainty of death. Small chance of success. What are we waiting for?"]]

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* [[Film/TheLordOfTheRings ''Film/TheLordOfTheRings'': "Certainty of death. Small chance of success. What are we waiting for?"]]for?"



* TheGamers gives us a twenty-to-one chance - mainly on account of there being no one-million-sided dice.

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* ''Franchise/StarWars:'' "Sir, the possibility of successfully navigating an asteroid field is approximately 3,720 to 1!"

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* Sir, the possibility of successfully navigating an asteroid field is approximately 3,720 to 1!

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* Sir, ''Franchise/StarWars:'' "Sir, the possibility of successfully navigating an asteroid field is approximately 3,720 to 1!1!"

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* Exploited in every episode of ''Anime/YuGiOh'', and all animes based on card games, for that matter: TheMagicPokerEquation is in effect.
** Actually, in most cases, the chances of a player "miraculously" drawing the card he needs at the right moment (a "topdeck" as some players call it) is one in 40, much better odds than a million to one.

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* Exploited in every episode of ''Anime/YuGiOh'', and all animes based on card games, for that matter: TheMagicPokerEquation is in effect.
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effect. Although ''technically'', in most cases, cases the chances of a player "miraculously" drawing the card he needs at the right moment (a "topdeck" as some players call it) is one in 40, much better odds than a million to one.
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* In the original ''{{Half-Life}}'', Gordon is cheerfully reminded by his fellow scientists that ExplosiveOverclocking of their AppliedPhlebotinum is perfectly okay, because a "resonance cascade scenario is extremely unlikely". They also assure you that "[[WhatCouldPossiblyGoWrong nothing will go wrong]]"...

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* In the original ''{{Half-Life}}'', ''VideoGame/HalfLife1'', Gordon is cheerfully reminded by his fellow scientists that ExplosiveOverclocking of their AppliedPhlebotinum is perfectly okay, because a "resonance cascade scenario is extremely unlikely". They also assure you that "[[WhatCouldPossiblyGoWrong nothing will go wrong]]"...
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* In Jacqueline Carey's ''KushielsLegacy'' books, heroine Phèdre nó Delaunay is very frequently told (or admits herself) that her plans are madness and suicide. Yet, with the exception of a few UnwittingPawn moments, they always work.

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* In Jacqueline Carey's ''KushielsLegacy'' ''Literature/KushielsLegacy'' books, heroine Phèdre nó Delaunay is very frequently told (or admits herself) that her plans are madness and suicide. Yet, with the exception of a few UnwittingPawn moments, they always work.
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* When dealing with continuous random variables (almost anything with an infinite number of possible outcomes), each individual outcome will occur with probability of one over infinite. Not one-in-a-million, almost zero-in-a-million. And always, one outcome ''always'' happens despite technically [[LiteralMinded being impossible]]. Hence the word ''almost''.

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* When dealing with continuous random variables (almost anything with an infinite number of possible outcomes), each individual outcome will occur with probability of one over infinite. Not infinity. We're not talking one-in-a-million, almost zero-in-a-million. And always, but so close to zero-in-a-million it can't be comprehended. However, one outcome ''always'' happens despite technically [[LiteralMinded being impossible]]. Hence the word ''almost''.
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* When dealing with continuous random variables (almost anything with an infinite number of possible outcomes), each individual outcome will occur with probability of one over infinite. Not one-in-a-million, almost zero-in-a-million. And always, one outcome ''always'' happens despite techincally [[LiteralMinded being impossible]]. Hence the word ''almost''.

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* When dealing with continuous random variables (almost anything with an infinite number of possible outcomes), each individual outcome will occur with probability of one over infinite. Not one-in-a-million, almost zero-in-a-million. And always, one outcome ''always'' happens despite techincally technically [[LiteralMinded being impossible]]. Hence the word ''almost''.
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* When dealing with continuous random variables (almost anything with an infinite number of possible outcomes), each individual outcome will occur with probability of one over infinite. Not one-in-a-million, almost zero-in-a-million. And always, one outcome actually happens despite [[LiteralMinded being impossible]].

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* When dealing with continuous random variables (almost anything with an infinite number of possible outcomes), each individual outcome will occur with probability of one over infinite. Not one-in-a-million, almost zero-in-a-million. And always, one outcome actually ''always'' happens despite techincally [[LiteralMinded being impossible]].impossible]]. Hence the word ''almost''.
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* ''DeathLands''. In "Crater Lake" Finnigan faces off with a sec man holding a laser pistol that's so unreliable it only fires one time out of every hundred. This makes Finnigan cocky. And dead.

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* ''DeathLands''. In "Crater Lake" Finnigan faces off with a sec man holding a laser pistol that's so unreliable it only fires one time out of every hundred. This makes Finnigan cocky. And rather gruesomely dead.
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* ''DeathLands''. In "Crater Lake" Finnigan is killed by a laser weapon that's so unreliable it only fires one time out of every hundred. This makes Finnigan cocky. And dead.

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* ''DeathLands''. In "Crater Lake" Finnigan is killed by faces off with a sec man holding a laser weapon pistol that's so unreliable it only fires one time out of every hundred. This makes Finnigan cocky. And dead.
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* Subverted in ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica''; Kyubey implies to Kyouko that [[spoiler: It's theoretically possible to make witch!Sayaka human again, but extremely unlikely that it would work. Kyouko tries it anyway...and fails, because there's no indication that it is possible either. There's just no evidence that it isn't.]]

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* Subverted in ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica''; Kyubey implies to Kyouko that [[spoiler: It's [[spoiler:it's theoretically possible to make witch!Sayaka human again, but extremely unlikely that it would work. Kyouko tries it anyway...and fails, because there's no indication that it is possible either. There's just no evidence that it isn't.]]
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** Actually a recurring theme in the WhenTheyCry [[TheVerse verse]]. In ''UminekoNoNakuKoroNi'', Kinzo relies on a huge gamble involving the epitaph to [[spoiler:give Yasu the headship and get them to forgive him]] as evidenced by the quote on top of the chapel: "You will only be blessed at a probability of a quadrillion to one. In the same [=EP=], Bernkastel tells Lion and Will that the chances of Lion existing in a fragment is about 1 out of 2,578,917. [[spoiler:And later on, cruelly reveals that in all those fragments, Beatrice/Lion suffers the same dead-end fate.]] [[{{Determinator}} Not that it stopped either Will or Lion.]]

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** Actually a recurring theme in the WhenTheyCry Franchise/WhenTheyCry [[TheVerse verse]]. In ''UminekoNoNakuKoroNi'', ''[[VisualNovel/UminekoWhenTheyCry Umineko No Naku Koro Ni]]'', Kinzo relies on a huge gamble involving the epitaph to [[spoiler:give Yasu the headship and get them to forgive him]] as evidenced by the quote on top of the chapel: "You will only be blessed at a probability of a quadrillion to one. In the same [=EP=], Bernkastel tells Lion and Will that the chances of Lion existing in a fragment is about 1 out of 2,578,917. [[spoiler:And later on, cruelly reveals that in all those fragments, Beatrice/Lion suffers the same dead-end fate.]] [[{{Determinator}} Not that it stopped either Will or Lion.]]
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* Invoked in ''{{Castle}}'' when Beckett was trapped on a pressure-sensitive bomb;
-->'''Beckett''': Castle, please, you have to leave me, there's no reason for both of us to die.\\
'''Castle''': Oh, I didn't come here to die, I came here to diffuse the bomb. There's still a chance.\\
'''Beckett''': Yes, a one-in-one-hundred-thousand chance!\\
'''Castle''': Great, while there's still a chance, I'm not giving up.
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*** There's only six orders they can be struck in. You get to 1:345,000,000 if any of them work.
** 345,000,000*6 = 2,700,000,000, not 3,105,000,000.
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** Viciously questioned in ''Discworld/TheLastHero'' by Cohen, one of the last surviving barbarian heroes. When he meets the Lady, he tears into her about how many of his fellow heroes died due to taking million-to-one chances that failed them. As he points out, she's the million-to-one chance, and ''also'' all the chances of ''dying''. As such, Cohen has no respect whatsoever for her.
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*** Mentioning the odds here is more meant to refresh and emphasize Rincewind's ActionSurvivor nature rather than allude to the fact he's due to return.

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* In ''Manga/OnePiece'' there's a special power called "Haki", one specific type called "Haoshoku Haki"(Color of the Supreme King) is said to be in one person per million, curiously the series have already shown seven.

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* In ''Manga/OnePiece'' there's a special power called "Haki", one specific type called "Haoshoku Haki"(Color of the Supreme King) is said to be in one person per million, curiously the series have has already shown seven.seven, with three more heavily implied to have it, as they are the god-like relatives of the two main characters with Haoshoku Haki, and it's been stated to be a hereditary trait.



** There's also the fact that the nature of the grand line means that it's basically been drawing and holding all the most powerful people in the world as a whole, so it makes sense that whatever portion of the world has this rare and powerful form of Haki, Most of them will be in the Grand Line.

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** There's also the fact that the nature of the grand line means that it's basically everyone shown to have Haoshoku Haki so far has been drawing and holding encountered on the Grand Line, the sea where all the most powerful people in strongest men and women throughout the world as a whole, so it makes sense that whatever portion gather, the pirates to search for One Piece, the Navy to try and stop them. These seven are the first mate on the ship of the world has this rare Pirate King, two Warlords, two of the Four Emperors, the main character and powerful form his step-brother. It's also implied that the main characters father (the most wanted man in the world) and grandfather (legendary hero of the marines, not too pleased with his son's career choice) have Haoshoku Haki, Most of them will be as when he displayed his he said "So he did inherit it in the end." The main character's step brother's father is also heavily implied to have it, being the Pirate King himself, the man who conquered the Grand Line.Line and owned One Piece. There was even a cabin boy on this man's ship with Haoshoku Haki.
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This comes up most frequently when characters say NeverTellMeTheOdds, and occasionally when someone [[IfMyCalculationsAreCorrect makes a few calculations]].

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This comes up most frequently when characters say NeverTellMeTheOdds, and occasionally when someone [[IfMyCalculationsAreCorrect makes a few calculations]].
calculations]]. A good approximation of these odds is the chance of flipping a coin twenty times and getting heads every time.



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