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* Faith and the Muse - [[https://youtu.be/R0DdmX7ulfc?si=gnT60qsS_Hf1qRxT "Sovereign"]]
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** ''Music/AntichristSuperstar'' (1996)
** ''Music/HolyWoodInTheShadowOfTheValleyOfDeath'' (2000)
** ''Music/HolyWoodInTheShadowOfTheValleyOfDeath'' (2000)
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* Music/MarilynManson has been moving in this direction since 2015's ''The Pale Emperor''; while the band's pre-2015 output showed influence from the genre (such as on ''Eat Me, Drink Me''), categorizing their music as Goth was very contentious, as old school Goths felt that the term was being hijacked by the band and their fans, and Goths did not want the public to perceive Goth as being synonymous with IndustrialMetal, which the band had fused with elements of GlamRock and Goth. To this date, Goths and Manson fans are very divided as to whether they are a Goth band or merely influenced by the genre.
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* Music/MarilynManson has been moving in this direction since 2015's ''The Pale Emperor''; while the band's pre-2015 output showed influence from the genre (such as on ''Eat Me, Drink Me''), categorizing their music as Goth was very contentious, as old school Goths felt that the term was being hijacked by the band and their fans, and Goths did not want the public to perceive Goth as being synonymous with IndustrialMetal, IndustrialRock, which the band had fused with elements of GlamRock and Goth. To this date, Goths and Manson fans are very divided as to whether they are a Goth band or merely influenced by the genre.
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* {{Misblamed}}: The genre (and the {{Goth}} scene as a whole) is often blamed for things like school shootings -- never mind that most school shooters haven't been known to listen to the genre (the oft blamed so-called "Goth" bands, such as Music/{{Rammstein}} or Music/MarilynManson, generally are not actual Goth Rock artists), or that which music they listen to is largely irrelevant anyways.
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* {{Misblamed}}: The genre (and the {{Goth}} scene as a whole) is often blamed for things like school shootings -- never mind that most school shooters haven't been known to listen to the genre (the oft blamed so-called "Goth" bands, such as Music/{{Rammstein}} or Music/MarilynManson, Music/{{Rammstein}}, generally are not actual Goth Rock artists), or that which music they listen to is largely irrelevant anyways.
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* Music/{{Manuskript}}
* Music/RomeBurns
* Music/RomeBurns
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* Music/DevilDoll -- also ProgressiveRock.
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Tears for Fears isn't usually categorized as Goth
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* Music/TearsForFears (on their earliest material; later albums ditched the {{angst}} in favor of more emotionally variable progressive pop)
** 1983 - ''Music/TheHurting''
** 1983 - ''Music/TheHurting''
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Buck-Tick was playing punk in 1983 and didn't start playing Goth until the '90s
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* Music/BuckTick - although they started in 1983, they were playing Punk at the start of their career, and wouldn't shift to Goth until the '90s.
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* DarkerAndEdgier: Goth Rock is a evolution of PostPunk only more darker in tone.
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* Music/{{AFI}} (starting with ''Burials'' onward)
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Couldn't verify this through Google search, listened on You Tube and they sound more like crossover thrash than Goth
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* Music/TheMenThatWillNotBeBlamedForNothing
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Google didn't turn up any results calling X Japan Goth Rock, and the first result when I searched about this was a Reddit post saying that X Japan isn't a Goth band
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* Music/XJapan is tending to move in this direction in their post-1996 work. See Violet UK above for why.
** Music/{{hide|toMatsumoto}} - X Japan's lead guitarist. His solo career definitely had a few goth rock songs, most notably "Pink Spider". He also liked wearing clothes that fit the goth look, and later started wearing more colourful 'futuristic' outfits which almost certainly influenced the UsefulNotes/CyberGoth style.
** Music/{{H|iroshiMorie}}eath - The band's bassist. His solo material was by far the closest to goth rock out of all the members, and he was also the first one to really adopt the goth look, which he's kept ever since 1993.
** Music/{{hide|toMatsumoto}} - X Japan's lead guitarist. His solo career definitely had a few goth rock songs, most notably "Pink Spider". He also liked wearing clothes that fit the goth look, and later started wearing more colourful 'futuristic' outfits which almost certainly influenced the UsefulNotes/CyberGoth style.
** Music/{{H|iroshiMorie}}eath - The band's bassist. His solo material was by far the closest to goth rock out of all the members, and he was also the first one to really adopt the goth look, which he's kept ever since 1993.
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* Music/MarilynManson has been moving in this direction since 2015's ''The Pale Emperor''; while the band's pre-2015 output showed influence from the genre (such as on ''Eat Me, Drink Me''), categorizing their music as Goth was very contentious, as old school Goths felt that the term was being hijacked by the band and their fans, and Goths did not want the public to perceive Goth as being synonymous with IndustrialMetal, which he the band had fused with elements of GlamRock and Goth. To this date, Goths and Manson fans are very divided as to whether they are a Goth band or merely influenced by the genre.
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* Music/MarilynManson has been moving in this direction since 2015's ''The Pale Emperor''; while his the band's pre-2015 output showed influence from the genre (such as on ''Eat Me, Drink Me''), categorizing the band's their music as Goth was very contentious, as old school Goths felt that the term was being hijacked by him the band and his their fans, and Goths did not want the public to perceive Goth as being synonymous with IndustrialMetal, which he had fused with elements of GlamRock and Goth. To this date, Goths and Manson fans are very divided as to whether he is they are a Goth musician band or merely influenced by the genre.
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* Music/MarilynManson has been moving in this direction since 2015's ''The Pale Emperor''; while his pre-2015 output showed influence from the genre (such as on ''Eat Me, Drink Me''), categorizing his the band's music as Goth was very contentious contentious, as old school Goths felt that the term was being hijacked by him and his fans, and Goths did not want the public to perceive Goth as being synonymous with IndustrialMetal, which he had fused with elements of GlamRock and Goth. To this date, Goths and Manson fans are very divided as to whether he is a Goth musician or merely influenced by the genre.
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* Music/MarilynManson has been moving in this direction since 2015's ''The Pale Emperor''; while his pre-2015 output showed influence from the genre (such as on ''Eat Me, Drink Me''), categorizing his music as Goth was very contentious as old school Goths felt that the term was being hijacked by him and his fans, who and Goths did not want the public to perceive Goth as being synonymous with IndustrialMetal, which he had fused with elements of GlamRock and Goth. To this date, Goths and Manson fans are very divided as to whether he is a Goth musician or merely influenced by the genre.
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* Music/TheChurch
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* Music/TheChurchMusic/TheChurchBand
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* Music/TheSistersOfMercyMusic/TheSistersOfMercy (despite Andrew Eldritch firmly rejecting his music being labeled as "goth rock")
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See also: DarkWave
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See also: DarkWaveDarkWave, DarkCabaret
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* PostPunk: Originated as a subgenre of this, before gaining a life of its own around the time Post-Punk as a whole began to decline during the second half of the '80s.
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Common musical features of the genre include [[LeadBassist melodies carried by the bass guitar]], with the electric guitar taking a secondary role, sparse and minimalistic beats,[[note]]Commonly created by drum machines, if not a real drummer.[[/note]] effects-laden scything guitar patterns with [[EchoingAcoustics lots of reverb]], and (often) use of synthesizers. The most common vocal styles tend to be [[PerishingAltRockVoice gloomy]] [[CreepyMonotone monotones]], [[note]]As exemplified by Ian Curtis, Dave Gahan, and Peter Murphy[[/note]] [[BadassBaritone deep, droning baritones]], [[note]]As exemplified by [[Music/TheSistersOfMercy Andrew Eldritch]], [[Music/FieldsOfTheNephilim Carl [=McCoy=]]], Louis [=DeWray=] and Music/NickCave[[/note]] or a more flamboyant, glam rock-inspired style. [[note]]As exemplified by Ian Astbury, Robert Smith, and Rozz Williams.[[/note]]
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Common musical features of the genre include [[LeadBassist melodies carried by the bass guitar]], with the electric guitar taking a secondary role, sparse and minimalistic beats,[[note]]Commonly created by drum machines, if not a real drummer.[[/note]] effects-laden scything guitar patterns with [[EchoingAcoustics lots of reverb]], and (often) use of synthesizers. The most common vocal styles tend to be [[PerishingAltRockVoice gloomy]] [[CreepyMonotone monotones]], {{creepy monotone}}s, [[note]]As exemplified by Ian Curtis, Dave Gahan, and Peter Murphy[[/note]] [[BadassBaritone deep, droning baritones]], baritones, [[note]]As exemplified by [[Music/TheSistersOfMercy Andrew Eldritch]], [[Music/FieldsOfTheNephilim Carl [=McCoy=]]], Louis [=DeWray=] and Music/NickCave[[/note]] or a more flamboyant, glam rock-inspired style. [[note]]As exemplified by Ian Astbury, Robert Smith, and Rozz Williams.[[/note]]
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* Music/GaryNuman - Definitely a stylistic influence thanks to his all black clothes and hair. In terms of music, his first album ''Tubeway Army'' is definitely the most "gothic" of his discography, blending PostPunk with early DarkWave. His next two albums were pretty similar before he shifted to NewWave afterwards.
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* Music/GaryNuman - Definitely a stylistic influence thanks to his all black clothes and hair. In terms of music, his first album ''Tubeway Army'' is definitely the most "gothic" of his discography, blending PostPunk with early DarkWave. His next two albums were pretty similar before he shifted to NewWave NewWaveMusic afterwards.
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* Music/{{Devo}} - Much more well known as a NewWave group, but the early material found on their ''Hardcore'' compilations certainly displays gothic elements with the crunchier guitars, droning keyboards and Music/MarkMothersbaugh's much gloomier vocals.
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* Music/{{Devo}} - Much more well known as a NewWave NewWaveMusic group, but the early material found on their ''Hardcore'' compilations certainly displays gothic elements with the crunchier guitars, droning keyboards and Music/MarkMothersbaugh's much gloomier vocals.
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* PostPunk: Originated as a subgenre of this, before gaining a life of its own around the time Post-Punk as a whole began to decline in the mid-to-late '80s.
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* PostPunk: Originated as a subgenre of this, before gaining a life of its own around the time Post-Punk as a whole began to decline in during the mid-to-late second half of the '80s.