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** The Empire's continual defiance of this trope is pretty much the reason why it survived in the face of so much supernatural horror. Specifically, their mastery of a variation of the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tercio tercio]] that characterized continental European warfare throughout the 16th century: a mixed body of men armed with halberds (in real life tercio used long pikes; presumably the Empire keeps the halberd for its superior performance against meatier targets) and arquebuses, a kind of primitive gun, along with swords and greatswords for close combat.



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* ''VideoGame/{{Tyranny}}'': The Disfavoured are renown in-universe for their use of phalanx warfare, presenting an unbreakable shield wall that tires out the enemy through sheer grinding attrition. In-game they fight much the same way as all other factions by attacking head-on individually.


* One of the many issues newly-defrosted HumanPopsicle John Geary has with Literature/TheLostFleet's [[AttackAttackAttack "tactics"]]. Once he brings them round to the GoodOldWays, they swiftly become a force to be reckoned with. Of course, as soon as he brings the fleet back to TheAlliance, he is called a liar for claiming that he fought and won all those battles, as his relatively light losses "prove" that he hasn't fought a "true battle".

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* One of the many issues newly-defrosted HumanPopsicle John Geary has with Literature/TheLostFleet's [[AttackAttackAttack "tactics"]]. Once he brings them round to the GoodOldWays, they swiftly become a force to be reckoned with. Of course, as soon as he brings the fleet back to TheAlliance, he is called a liar for claiming that he fought and won all those battles, as his relatively light losses "prove" that he hasn't fought a "true battle". Averted with the Bear-Cows, whose historical films show ranks of disciplined pikemen defeating hordes of enemies rather than singular heroes doing the same. This is because of their herd mentality, where individual lives don't matter.


** The battle in which Sauron was originally defeated shows his orcs as a [[ZergRush disorganised mob]], the idea being that Sauron learnt from his defeat and realised he need a more disciplined army to win. In ''The Return of the King'' the orc army uses formations and is shown acting under the control of officers. Gothmog in particular is good at forming an organized attack, opening with an artillery barrage to soften the defenses, aerial superiority in the Nazgul to neutralize the enemy artillery in short order, bringing up heavy siege equipment to breach the gate and towers to swarm the walls, forming a new line to meet a cavalry charge on his right flank, and calling in Haradrim reinforcements to meet the enemy cavalry while tactically retreating his orcs until Rohan's forces could be defeated. The only reason he lost the battle was an undead ghost army that he couldn't have reasonably seen coming.

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** The battle in which Sauron was originally defeated shows his orcs as a [[ZergRush disorganised mob]], the idea being that Sauron learnt from his defeat and realised he need needed a more disciplined army to win. In ''The Return of the King'' the orc army uses formations and is shown acting under the control of officers. Gothmog in particular is good at forming an organized attack, opening with an artillery barrage to soften the defenses, aerial superiority in the Nazgul to neutralize the enemy artillery in short order, bringing up heavy siege equipment to breach the gate and towers to swarm the walls, forming a new line to meet a cavalry charge on his right flank, and calling in Haradrim reinforcements to meet the enemy cavalry while tactically retreating his orcs until Rohan's forces could be defeated. The only reason he lost the battle was an undead ghost army that he couldn't have reasonably seen coming.



* Averted in ''VideoGame/WarhammerDarkOmen'': Regiments move and fight in formation and a tight one defends better against charges while a loose one is better for ranged fire. If a unit routs, it loses its cohesion for a a while and it's an easy target.

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* Averted in ''VideoGame/WarhammerDarkOmen'': Regiments move and fight in formation and a tight one defends better against charges while a loose one is better for ranged fire. If a unit routs, it loses its cohesion for a a while and it's an easy target.



** One particularly notable formation, the Beam Defense Formation, also known as the Thach Weave, was explicitly meant for it's participants to use it mid-Dogfight. By having the [[MightyGlacier F4F Wildcats]] using this formation repeatedly "weave" would allow each fighter to cover eachother, gunning down any enemy that happened to be behind them, generally the [[FragileSpeedster A6M Zero]], which, in a one-on-one dogfight, proved the Wildcat's superior, but in a battle of endurance and formation, lacked the resilience of the American plane.

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** One particularly notable formation, the Beam Defense Formation, also known as the Thach Weave, was explicitly meant for it's participants to use it mid-Dogfight. By having the [[MightyGlacier F4F Wildcats]] using this formation repeatedly "weave" would allow each fighter to cover eachother, each other, gunning down any enemy that happened to be behind them, generally the [[FragileSpeedster A6M Zero]], which, in a one-on-one dogfight, proved the Wildcat's superior, but in a battle of endurance and formation, lacked the resilience of the American plane.


** The trope is played both ways in ''An Egyptian In Scotland'', the prequel to the famous narrative Let's Play ''LetsPlay/AScotsmanInEgypt''. An exiled Egyptian prince and his soldiers who've washed up in Caledonia bring their Greek phalanx tactics to bear against the locals, who have rather less military discipline, and discover to their cost that a large band of lightly-armoured skirmishers have an advantage in speed and flexibility over a tight formation of hoplites; the Caledonians pay dearly for the victory, but they can absorb those losses better than TheRemnant withstand can their own. They learn from the setback and adjust their tactics to compensate, inventing the hinged phalanx in the process.

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** The trope is played both ways in ''An Egyptian In Scotland'', the prequel to the famous narrative Let's Play ''LetsPlay/AScotsmanInEgypt''. An exiled Egyptian prince and his soldiers who've washed up in Caledonia bring their Greek phalanx tactics to bear against the locals, who have rather less military discipline, and discover to their cost that a large band of lightly-armoured skirmishers have an advantage in speed and flexibility over a tight formation of hoplites; the Caledonians pay dearly for the victory, but they can absorb those losses better far more easily than TheRemnant TheRemnant can withstand can their own. They learn from the setback and adjust their tactics to compensate, inventing the hinged phalanx in the process.

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* ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedOdyssey'': Because of engine limitations, no one uses formations. Even the prologue battle, where you play as Leonidas, is a massive melee without any formations. Greeks in general were famous for their strong formations, and Spartans ''never'' broke.


** [[InvertedTrope Inverted]] later on in the movie, when a bunch of gladiators form a defensive circle to avoid being slaughtered by chariots. The inversion is [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] though, because the fight was set up to ''invoke'' this trope, but the gladiators themselves were formerly in the Legion that served with Maximus and trained in Legion tactics.

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** [[InvertedTrope Inverted]] later on in the movie, when a bunch of gladiators form a defensive circle to avoid being slaughtered by chariots. The inversion is [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] though, because the fight was set up to ''invoke'' this trope, but Maximus with the help of other gladiators themselves who were formerly in the former soldiers and therefore had Legion that served with Maximus and trained in Legion tactics.training is able to turn things around.

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** Even units that can keep their own formation may invoke this trope on the rest of the army. All you need to know is the unit attribute is called "[[LeeroyJenkins May charge without orders]]".

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** The trope is played both ways in ''An Egyptian In Scotland'', the prequel to the famous narrative Let's Play ''LetsPlay/AScotsmanInEgypt''. An exiled Egyptian prince and his soldiers who've washed up in Caledonia bring their Greek phalanx tactics to bear against the locals, who have rather less military discipline, and discover to their cost that a large band of lightly-armoured skirmishers have an advantage in speed and flexibility over a tight formation of hoplites; the Caledonians pay dearly for the victory, but they can absorb those losses better than TheRemnant withstand can their own. They learn from the setback and adjust their tactics to compensate, inventing the hinged phalanx in the process.


A big exception is once battle is joined. The most disciplined forces, like Roman and Greek soldiers, would try to maintain formation under all circumstances, and pike and spear walls would likewise attempt to maintain the integrity of their formation. But war is war, and at some point the formation is going to dissolve or at least weaken. So if there's heavy melee fighting going on, [[RealityIsUnrealistic it's acceptable to see soldiers duelling it out as individuals.]] Expect to see historians [[{{Facepalm}} face-palming]] if [[Film/ThreeHundred phalangites are charging in with swords mid-melee however.]] Same goes for Roman legionaries willingly coming out of their famous shield wall.

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A big exception is once battle is joined. The most disciplined forces, like Roman and Greek soldiers, would try to maintain formation under all circumstances, and pike and spear walls would likewise attempt to maintain the integrity of their formation. But war is war, and at some point the formation is going to dissolve or at least weaken. So if there's heavy melee fighting going on, [[RealityIsUnrealistic it's acceptable to see soldiers duelling it out as individuals.]] Expect to see historians [[{{Facepalm}} face-palming]] if [[Film/ThreeHundred phalangites are charging in with swords mid-melee mid-melee, however.]] Same goes for Roman legionaries willingly coming out of their famous shield wall.

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** Somewhat justified, in that confrontations the player finds themselves in are, at most, them and an AI buddy versus a few enemies. And that the existence of a wide variety of magic would likely force armies to rely on less rigid and basic formations, much like modern firearms did in Real Life. Though none of this explains why those low man skirmishes consistent entirely of the two sides flailing at each other with no regard for cover or flanking or the like.


** For an example of the basics of the complexity required to maneuver a modern infantry squad, read [[http://www.armystudyguide.com/content/EIB/EIB_Related_Battle_Drills/battle-drill-1-conduct-pl.shtml Battle Drill 1]], the very first such drill, for the US Army, or [[http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/report/call/call_97-15_ctc3q1a.htm how to cross a road]].

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** For an example of the basics of the complexity required to maneuver a modern infantry squad, read [[http://www.armystudyguide.com/content/EIB/EIB_Related_Battle_Drills/battle-drill-1-conduct-pl.shtml Battle Drill 1]], the very first such drill, for the US Army, or [[http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/report/call/call_97-15_ctc3q1a.htm how to cross a road]]. Pardon, not a road, a [[InsistentTerminology "Linear Danger Area."]]

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** In the extended edition, a brief scene where battle is joined between the Elves and Dwarves prior to Azog showing up is depicted. In that fight, the Elves use a shieldwall as a sort of ramp that the Dwarves ride over, disguising their second rank which is set up specifically to allow cavalry through and surround them.


** [[InvertedTrope Inverted]] later on in the movie, when a bunch of gladiators form a defensive circle to avoid being slaughtered by chariots. The inversion is [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] though, because the gladiators were formerly in the Legion that served with Maximus.

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** [[InvertedTrope Inverted]] later on in the movie, when a bunch of gladiators form a defensive circle to avoid being slaughtered by chariots. The inversion is [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] though, because the fight was set up to ''invoke'' this trope, but the gladiators themselves were formerly in the Legion that served with Maximus.Maximus and trained in Legion tactics.


** The battle in which Sauron was originally defeated shows his orcs as a [[ZergRush disorganised mob]], the idea being that Sauron learnt from his defeat and realised he need a more disciplined army to win. In ''The Return of the King'' the orc army uses formations and is shown acting under the control of officers. Gothmog in particular is good at forming an organized attack, opening with an artillery barrage to soften the defenses, aerial superiority in the Nazgul to neutralize the enemy artillery in short order, bringing up heavy siege equipment to breach the gate, forming a new line to meet a cavalry charge on his right flank, and calling in Haradrim reinforcements to meet the enemy cavalry while tactically retreating his orcs until Rohan's forces could be defeated. The only reason he lost the battle was an undead ghost army that he couldn't have reasonably seen coming.

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** The battle in which Sauron was originally defeated shows his orcs as a [[ZergRush disorganised mob]], the idea being that Sauron learnt from his defeat and realised he need a more disciplined army to win. In ''The Return of the King'' the orc army uses formations and is shown acting under the control of officers. Gothmog in particular is good at forming an organized attack, opening with an artillery barrage to soften the defenses, aerial superiority in the Nazgul to neutralize the enemy artillery in short order, bringing up heavy siege equipment to breach the gate, gate and towers to swarm the walls, forming a new line to meet a cavalry charge on his right flank, and calling in Haradrim reinforcements to meet the enemy cavalry while tactically retreating his orcs until Rohan's forces could be defeated. The only reason he lost the battle was an undead ghost army that he couldn't have reasonably seen coming.

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