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''The letters from Nicodemus'' (''Listy Nikodema'') is one of several novels that Jan Dobraczyński set in [[BibleTimes biblical times]], dealing with "taking up the cross" and what it really means.

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''The letters from Nicodemus'' (''Listy Nikodema'') is one of several novels that Jan Dobraczyński set in [[BibleTimes biblical times]], dealing with "taking up the cross" and what it really means.
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''The letters from Nicodemus'' (''Listy Nikodema'') is one of several novels that Jan Dobraczyński set in [[BibleTimes biblical times]], dealing with "taking up the cross" and what it really means.



The year is [[BibleTimes 3788]], or, as Romans call it, year of the consulship of Piso and Frugi.

One of several novels that Jan Dobraczyński set in [[BibleTimes biblical times]], ''Listy Nikodema'' ("The letters from Nicodemus") deals with "taking up the cross" and what it really means.

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The year is [[BibleTimes 3788]], 3788, or, as Romans call it, year of the consulship of Piso and Frugi.

One of several novels that Jan Dobraczyński set in [[BibleTimes biblical times]], ''Listy Nikodema'' ("The letters from Nicodemus") deals with "taking up the cross" and what it really means.
Frugi.

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* BeenThereShapedHistory: From the very first letter we learn Nicodemus is good friends with Joseph of Arimathea. Then he personally meets John the Baptist, several disciples, and then UsefulNotes/{{Jesus}} Himself. He also knows many of the bad guys and is a witness to several miracles, as well as [[TroublingUnchildlikeBehaviour Salome's dance]]. [[spoiler: And owns the house where they had the Last Supper]].

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* BeenThereShapedHistory: From the very first letter we learn Nicodemus is good friends with Joseph of Arimathea. Then he personally meets John the Baptist, several disciples, and then UsefulNotes/{{Jesus}} Himself. He also knows many of the bad guys and is a witness to several miracles, as well as [[TroublingUnchildlikeBehaviour Salome's dance]].dance. [[spoiler: And owns the house where they had the Last Supper]].



%%* CorruptChurch: The levites and pharisee.



* CrisisOfFaith: Nicodemus, for the entire story. [[spoiler: Solves it in the end]].

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* CrisisOfFaith: Nicodemus, Nicodemus doubts God for most of the entire story. [[spoiler: Solves it in story, overcoming his doubts at the end]].end.



* DescriptionPorn: Nicodemus's work is [[MostWritersAreWriters writing parables]]. It shows in the [[PurpleProse sheer purpleness]] of his descriptions.

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* DescriptionPorn: Nicodemus's work is [[MostWritersAreWriters writing parables]]. It shows in the [[PurpleProse sheer purpleness]] complexity]] of his descriptions.



* HeroicBSOD: Nicodemus is a bit disgusted with himself when his [=BSOD=] after Ruth's death dissolves. He ''thinks he should'' be depressed (a reaction not unheard of in RealLife).

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* HeroicBSOD: Nicodemus is a bit disgusted with himself when his [=BSOD=] breakdown after Ruth's death dissolves. He ''thinks he should'' be depressed (a reaction not unheard of in RealLife).depressed.



* JesusWasWayCool: Several times (Nicodemus witnesses Him calming the storm). Although - see the [[Literature/TheFourGospels source material page]].

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* JesusWasWayCool: Several times (Nicodemus witnesses Him calming the storm). Although - see the [[Literature/TheFourGospels source material page]].



* TwiceToldTale: This is practically a {{Fanfic}} for Literature/TheFourGospels.


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Rabbi Nicodemus ben Nicodemus is a wealthy, respected writer of haggadas (parables), who would be perfectly happy with his quiet life and work, if only his beloved [[IllGirl Ruth]] was healthy. Her illness, though, is wearing at them both, as he confesses in [[EpistolaryNovel writing]] to his old teacher, Justus.

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Rabbi Nicodemus ben Nicodemus is a wealthy, respected writer of haggadas (parables), who would be perfectly happy with his quiet life and work, if only his beloved [[IllGirl Ruth]] Ruth was healthy. Her illness, though, is wearing at them both, as he confesses in [[EpistolaryNovel writing]] to his old teacher, Justus.



* FiveStagesOfGrief: Nicodemus, over [[IllGirl Ruth's illness]] and eventual death - he starts in mild anger, then goes on to try bargaining, until she dies and he slips into black depression. [[spoiler: Then finally finds acceptance and peace in his new faith]].

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* FiveStagesOfGrief: Nicodemus, over [[IllGirl Ruth's illness]] illness and eventual death - he starts in mild anger, then goes on to try bargaining, until she dies and he slips into black depression. [[spoiler: Then finally finds acceptance and peace in his new faith]].

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* CorruptChurch: The levites and pharisee.
* CreepyChild: Nicodemus finds young Salome weird to the point of scary.

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* %%* CorruptChurch: The levites and pharisee.
* CreepyChild: Nicodemus finds young Salome weird to the point of being scary.



* DeathByAdaptation: [[spoiler: Joseph of Arimathea]].

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* %%* DeathByAdaptation: [[spoiler: Joseph of Arimathea]].



* PhilosophicalNovel
* PrettyBoy: John (the Evangelist).

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* %%* PhilosophicalNovel
* %%* PrettyBoy: John (the Evangelist).



* SwordAndSandal

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* %%* SwordAndSandal



* WalkOnWater: Nicodemus wasn't there for once, but he was told the story by Judas.

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* WalkOnWater: Nicodemus wasn't there for once, but he was told the story by Judas.Judas.
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One of several novels that Jan Dobraczyński set in [[BibleTimes biblical times]], '''Listy Nikodema''' (The letters from Nicodemus) deals with "taking up the cross" and what it really means.

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One of several novels that Jan Dobraczyński set in [[BibleTimes biblical times]], '''Listy Nikodema''' (The ''Listy Nikodema'' ("The letters from Nicodemus) Nicodemus") deals with "taking up the cross" and what it really means.



* BadassPreacher: How John the Baptist seems (until his imprisonment).
* BeenThereShapedHistory: From the very first letter we learn Nicodemus is good friends with Joseph of Arimathea. Then he personally meets John the Baptist, several disciples, and then UsefulNotes/{{Jesus}} Himself. He also knows his share of the bad guys and is witness to several miracles as well as [[CreepyChild Salome's]] [[TroublingUnchildlikeBehaviour dance]]. [[spoiler: And owns the house where they had the Last Supper]].

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* BadassPreacher: How John the Baptist seems appears (until his imprisonment).
* BeenThereShapedHistory: From the very first letter we learn Nicodemus is good friends with Joseph of Arimathea. Then he personally meets John the Baptist, several disciples, and then UsefulNotes/{{Jesus}} Himself. He also knows his share many of the bad guys and is a witness to several miracles miracles, as well as [[CreepyChild Salome's]] [[TroublingUnchildlikeBehaviour Salome's dance]]. [[spoiler: And owns the house where they had the Last Supper]].



* CreepyChild: Nicodemus finds young Salome weird to the point of scary.



* TurbulentPriest: John, having fulfilled his path-straightening purpose, goes on to shout at Herod about his incestuous and adulterous relationship. You all know how this ends.

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* TurbulentPriest: John, having fulfilled his path-straightening purpose, goes on to shout yell at Herod about his incestuous and adulterous relationship. You all know how this ends.
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* BeenThereShapedHistory: From the very first letter we learn Nicodemus is good friends with Joseph of Arimathea. Then he personally meets John the Baptist, several disciples, and then {{Jesus}} Himself. He also knows his share of the bad guys and is witness to several miracles as well as [[CreepyChild Salome's]] [[TroublingUnchildlikeBehaviour dance]]. [[spoiler: And owns the house where they had the Last Supper]].

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* BeenThereShapedHistory: From the very first letter we learn Nicodemus is good friends with Joseph of Arimathea. Then he personally meets John the Baptist, several disciples, and then {{Jesus}} UsefulNotes/{{Jesus}} Himself. He also knows his share of the bad guys and is witness to several miracles as well as [[CreepyChild Salome's]] [[TroublingUnchildlikeBehaviour dance]]. [[spoiler: And owns the house where they had the Last Supper]].



* {{Foreshadowing}}: {{Jesus}} speaks about crosses several times, creeping Nicodemus out.

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* {{Foreshadowing}}: {{Jesus}} UsefulNotes/{{Jesus}} speaks about crosses several times, creeping Nicodemus out.



* GodTest: People keep ''demanding'' miracles from {{Jesus}}, true to the [[Literature/TheFourGospels source material]].

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* GodTest: People keep ''demanding'' miracles from {{Jesus}}, UsefulNotes/{{Jesus}}, true to the [[Literature/TheFourGospels source material]].



* IShouldHaveBeenBetter: Nicodemus thinks so after Ruth's death, then after {{Jesus}}'s death.

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* IShouldHaveBeenBetter: Nicodemus thinks so after Ruth's death, then after {{Jesus}}'s UsefulNotes/{{Jesus}}'s death.



* JesusTheEarlyYears: Nicodemus visits Betlehem to learn about them. First he's told a story blatantly made up for tourists, then the young storyteller gets chastised by an old woman who actually was there at {{Jesus}}'s birth and tells it like it was - Nicodemus for the life of him can't believe in such an ignoble birth of the Messiah.

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* JesusTheEarlyYears: Nicodemus visits Betlehem to learn about them. First he's told a story blatantly made up for tourists, then the young storyteller gets chastised by an old woman who actually was there at {{Jesus}}'s UsefulNotes/{{Jesus}}'s birth and tells it like it was - Nicodemus for the life of him can't believe in such an ignoble birth of the Messiah.



* KangarooCourt: The only people who speak in {{Jesus}}'s defense are: Joseph of Arimathea (who points out the procedural problems), Nicodemus and a young man who soon afterwards becomes Christian.
* ManlyTears: Nicodemus notes that {{Jesus}} weeps quite often.

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* KangarooCourt: The only people who speak in {{Jesus}}'s UsefulNotes/{{Jesus}}'s defense are: Joseph of Arimathea (who points out the procedural problems), Nicodemus and a young man who soon afterwards becomes Christian.
* ManlyTears: Nicodemus notes that {{Jesus}} UsefulNotes/{{Jesus}} weeps quite often.
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One of several novels that [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Dobraczyński Jan Dobraczyński]] set in [[BibleTimes biblical times]], it deals with "taking up cross" and what it really means.

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One of several novels that [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Dobraczyński Jan Dobraczyński]] Dobraczyński set in [[BibleTimes biblical times]], it '''Listy Nikodema''' (The letters from Nicodemus) deals with "taking up the cross" and what it really means.



* BeenThereShapedHistory: From the very first letter we learn Nicodemus is good friends with Joseph of Arimathea. Then he personally meets John the Baptist, several disciples, and then {{Jesus}} himself. He also knows his share of the bad guys and is witness to several miracles as well as [[CreepyChild Salome's]] [[TroublingUnchildlikeBehaviour dance]]. [[spoiler: And owns the house where they had the Last Supper]].

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* BeenThereShapedHistory: From the very first letter we learn Nicodemus is good friends with Joseph of Arimathea. Then he personally meets John the Baptist, several disciples, and then {{Jesus}} himself.Himself. He also knows his share of the bad guys and is witness to several miracles as well as [[CreepyChild Salome's]] [[TroublingUnchildlikeBehaviour dance]]. [[spoiler: And owns the house where they had the Last Supper]].



* CompositeCharacter: Mary of Bethany somehow got traits of Mary Magdelene. She's also the one to bring the fragrant oils that Judas deemed so wasteful.

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* CompositeCharacter: Mary of Bethany (Lazarus and Martha's sister) somehow got traits of Mary Magdelene.Magdalene. She's also the one to bring the fragrant oils that Judas deemed so wasteful.



* CrisisOfFaith: Nicodemus, over the entire story. [[spoiler: Solves it in the end]].

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* CrisisOfFaith: Nicodemus, over for the entire story. [[spoiler: Solves it in the end]].



* FiveStagesOfGrief: Nicodemus, over [[IllGirl Ruth's illness]] and eventual death - he starts in mild anger, then goes on to try bargaining, until she dies and he slips into black depression.

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* FiveStagesOfGrief: Nicodemus, over [[IllGirl Ruth's illness]] and eventual death - he starts in mild anger, then goes on to try bargaining, until she dies and he slips into black depression. [[spoiler: Then finally finds acceptance and peace in his new faith]].



* IncrediblyInconvenientDeity: The general publics' idea of the Messiah is a war leader in shining armour, and they get a former carpenter from Judea who speaks in riddles of varying weirdness. Nicodemus, though, feels there might be some unpleasant duty waiting for him specifically.
* InMysteriousWays: Some people (like Peter) accept this, some (Judas) reject it violently. But this is the entire point.

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* IncrediblyInconvenientDeity: The general publics' idea of the Messiah is a war leader in shining armour, and they get a former carpenter from Judea Nazareth (and [[ArcWords nothing good ever came from Nazareth]]) who speaks in riddles of varying weirdness. Nicodemus, though, feels there might be some unpleasant duty waiting for him specifically.
* InMysteriousWays: Some people (like Peter) learn to accept this, some (Judas) reject it violently. But this is the entire point.



* RestoredMyFaithInHumanity: Nicodemus starts out somewhat [[TroubledSympatheticBigot bigoted]] (not nearly as bigoted as his colleagues), but in the last letter finally admits that he's came to regard Peter and the other disciples very highly.

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* RestoredMyFaithInHumanity: Nicodemus starts out somewhat [[TroubledSympatheticBigot bigoted]] (not nearly as bigoted as his colleagues), but in the last letter finally admits that he's came to regard Peter and the other disciples very highly.(galileean fishermen, mind) as better than he himself is.



* WalkOnWater: Nicodemus wasn't there, but he was told the story by Judas.

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* WalkOnWater: Nicodemus wasn't there, there for once, but he was told the story by Judas.
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* HeroicBSOD: Nicodemus is a bit disgusted with himself when his [=BSOD=] after Ruth's death dissolves. He ''wants'' to be depressed (a reaction not unheard of in RealLife).

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* HeroicBSOD: Nicodemus is a bit disgusted with himself when his [=BSOD=] after Ruth's death dissolves. He ''wants'' to ''thinks he should'' be depressed (a reaction not unheard of in RealLife).
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* HolierThanThou: In many flavours - Nicodemus himself has increasing doubts, but the[[TheFundamentalist pharisees]] in general are [[CulturalPosturing holier than anyone]].

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* HolierThanThou: In many flavours - Nicodemus himself has increasing doubts, but the[[TheFundamentalist the [[TheFundamentalist pharisees]] in general are [[CulturalPosturing holier than anyone]].
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Rabbi Nicodemus ben Nicodemus is a wealthy, respected writer of haggadas (parables), who would be perfectly happy with his quiet life and work, if only his beloved [[IllGirl Ruth]] was healthy. Her illness, though, is wearing at them both, as he confesses in [[EpistolaryNovel writing]] to his old teacher, Justus.

The times, however, are tumultous - a new prophet is said to have shown up at the shores of Jordan, a new prophet who baptises and chastises the people, claiming Someone else is near - and he's unworthy of unlacing His sandals...

The year is [[BibleTimes 3788]], or, as Romans call it, year of the consulship of Piso and Frugi.

One of several novels that [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Dobraczyński Jan Dobraczyński]] set in [[BibleTimes biblical times]], it deals with "taking up cross" and what it really means.

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* AnachronismStew: Served at Herod's party in the form of turkeys and maize alkohol.
* BadassPreacher: How John the Baptist seems (until his imprisonment).
* BeenThereShapedHistory: From the very first letter we learn Nicodemus is good friends with Joseph of Arimathea. Then he personally meets John the Baptist, several disciples, and then {{Jesus}} himself. He also knows his share of the bad guys and is witness to several miracles as well as [[CreepyChild Salome's]] [[TroublingUnchildlikeBehaviour dance]]. [[spoiler: And owns the house where they had the Last Supper]].
* BittersweetEnding: After twenty four letters worth of {{angst}}, Nicodemus [[spoiler: sells what he owns and goes forth to spread the Word]].
* CallARabbitASmeerp: Some things are called the way they were back in the day, like simlah (a cape).
* TheCaretaker: Is the point of view character, so we're shown several facets of this.
* CompositeCharacter: Mary of Bethany somehow got traits of Mary Magdelene. She's also the one to bring the fragrant oils that Judas deemed so wasteful.
* CorruptChurch: The levites and pharisee.
* CrisisOfFaith: Nicodemus, over the entire story. [[spoiler: Solves it in the end]].
* DeathByAdaptation: [[spoiler: Joseph of Arimathea]].
* DenOfIniquity: Herod's birthday party.
* DescriptionPorn: Nicodemus's work is [[MostWritersAreWriters writing parables]]. It shows in the [[PurpleProse sheer purpleness]] of his descriptions.
* DueToTheDead: True to the source material, delivered by Joseph and Nicodemus.
* EgocentricallyReligious: Nicodemus is slowly, over months and years, [[CharacterDevelopment overcoming this]] attitude. [[spoiler: Judas, however, is too consumed by his thirst for revenge]]. Also, most people think of Messiah in terms of what He could give them (mostly politically).
* EpistolaryNovel: Twenty five letters sent by Nicodemus to his mentor.
* FiveStagesOfGrief: Nicodemus, over [[IllGirl Ruth's illness]] and eventual death - he starts in mild anger, then goes on to try bargaining, until she dies and he slips into black depression.
* {{Foreshadowing}}: {{Jesus}} speaks about crosses several times, creeping Nicodemus out.
* GodBeforeDogma: This angers the hell out of the pharisee.
* GodTest: People keep ''demanding'' miracles from {{Jesus}}, true to the [[Literature/TheFourGospels source material]].
* HeroicBSOD: Nicodemus is a bit disgusted with himself when his [=BSOD=] after Ruth's death dissolves. He ''wants'' to be depressed (a reaction not unheard of in RealLife).
* HistoricalVillainUpgrade: Pontius Pilate probably wasn't ''that'' greedy and sleazy.
* HolierThanThou: In many flavours - Nicodemus himself has increasing doubts, but the[[TheFundamentalist pharisees]] in general are [[CulturalPosturing holier than anyone]].
* IncrediblyInconvenientDeity: The general publics' idea of the Messiah is a war leader in shining armour, and they get a former carpenter from Judea who speaks in riddles of varying weirdness. Nicodemus, though, feels there might be some unpleasant duty waiting for him specifically.
* InMysteriousWays: Some people (like Peter) accept this, some (Judas) reject it violently. But this is the entire point.
* IShouldHaveBeenBetter: Nicodemus thinks so after Ruth's death, then after {{Jesus}}'s death.
* JesusWasCrazy: Or at least very weird from Nicodemus's point of view. Also Judas tends towards this opinion in his more resentful moments.
* JesusTheEarlyYears: Nicodemus visits Betlehem to learn about them. First he's told a story blatantly made up for tourists, then the young storyteller gets chastised by an old woman who actually was there at {{Jesus}}'s birth and tells it like it was - Nicodemus for the life of him can't believe in such an ignoble birth of the Messiah.
* JesusWasWayCool: Several times (Nicodemus witnesses Him calming the storm). Although - see the [[Literature/TheFourGospels source material page]].
* KangarooCourt: The only people who speak in {{Jesus}}'s defense are: Joseph of Arimathea (who points out the procedural problems), Nicodemus and a young man who soon afterwards becomes Christian.
* ManlyTears: Nicodemus notes that {{Jesus}} weeps quite often.
* NeverAcceptedInHisHometown: People of Nazareth ''hate'' Him viciously.
* OccupiersOutOfOurCountry: Some Jews are very, very tired of the roman rule...
* OlderThanTheyLook: Mary looks no older than she did when giving birth thirty years prior.
* PhilosophicalNovel
* PrettyBoy: John (the Evangelist).
* RestoredMyFaithInHumanity: Nicodemus starts out somewhat [[TroubledSympatheticBigot bigoted]] (not nearly as bigoted as his colleagues), but in the last letter finally admits that he's came to regard Peter and the other disciples very highly.
* StoicWoobie: John the Baptist after his imprisonment.
* SwordAndSandal
* TurbulentPriest: John, having fulfilled his path-straightening purpose, goes on to shout at Herod about his incestuous and adulterous relationship. You all know how this ends.
* TwiceToldTale: This is practically a {{Fanfic}} for Literature/TheFourGospels.
* WalkOnWater: Nicodemus wasn't there, but he was told the story by Judas.

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