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* CanadaEh: Averted. Canada is stated to become a front of the future Cold War between the FBU and the UASR, with a Quebec secession crisis causing this timelines' Cuban Missile Crisis in 1979. Canadians themselves may undergo a cultural crisis, if they identify themselves more with the USAR than with England.
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* TakeAThirdOption: The Vatican opposes the new regime as godless, and orders the Catholic priests in America to either disavow the UASR or be excommunicated. Some Catholics instead form their own church.
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* GoodIsNotSoft: The UASR is a nation of people devoted to social equality and individual liberty. But their early history is marked by political repression, including KangarooCourt and ''summary execution''.

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* GoodIsNotSoft: The UASR is a nation of people devoted to social equality and individual liberty. But their early history is marked by political repression, including KangarooCourt and ''summary execution''.execution'' against a group that tried to destroy American liberty. World War II is described as having been even bloodier, and even though how much of the carnage was produced by the army of the UASR has not been specified, it's clear that they put up one hell of a fight.
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** The early years of the UASR are a downplayed version of this trope. Many people are dealt with by KangarooCourt and firing squads, but it is nowhere near the scale of the Soviet Union, and many of the sentenced were responsible for suppressing American democracy. These actions are still seen in-universe as a black spot on the history of the UASR, but none of the UASR leaders are portrayed as evil for them.

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** The early years of the UASR are a downplayed version of this trope. Many people are dealt with by KangarooCourt and firing squads, but it is nowhere near the scale of the Soviet Union, and many of the sentenced were responsible for suppressing American democracy. democracy, and it did stop eventually. These actions are still seen in-universe as a black spot on the history of the UASR, but none of the UASR leaders are portrayed as evil for them.

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* OppressiveStatesOfAmerica: Backfires, as it was this oppression that led to the creation of the UASR. This timeline runs several variations of this trope:
** The suppression of dissidents that occurred during our World War I is slightly worse, resulting in the arrest of socialist politicians, and even respected statesmen like ''Robert La Follette.''
** When a Worker's Party wins the 1932 election in a landslide, Douglas [[=MacArthur=]] successfully pressures Herbert Hoover to suspend the Constitution, and to arrest the Worker's Party members. The so-called [[NonIndicativename Freedom Corps]] attempt to put down any opposition, notably massacring Huey Long and disloyal members of the Louisiana State Legislature. This is the final straw sets the stage for the UASR.
** The remnants of the US government and their supporters flee to Cuba and establish a new government, with [[=Douglas MacArthur=]] as PresidentEvil. He proceeds to oppress the Cuban population. It's implied that this will be subverted in the later years of the Cuban-US nation.
** The early years of the UASR are a downplayed version of this trope. Many people are dealt with by KangarooCourt and firing squads, but it is nowhere near the scale of the Soviet Union, and many of the sentenced were responsible for suppressing American democracy. These actions are still seen in-universe as a black spot on the history of the UASR, but none of the UASR leaders are portrayed as evil for them.
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* KickTheSonOfABitch: While the persecution of political rivals in the beginning of the UASR is clearly inexcusable both in and out of universe, many of the victims of the old KangarooCourts were many people who tried to stifle American democracy, like the KKK and George Marshall.
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* DirtyCommunists: Subverted. The heroes are pretty clearly the UASR and communists in general, in spite of moral complexities. The ranks of Dirty Communists now includes Patton, [[UsefulNotes/DwightDEisenhower Eisenhower]], [[RichardNixon Nixon]], and J. Edgar Hoover. Even good ol' Honest [[AbrahamLincoln Lincoln]] gets an in-universe posthumous baptism as a good comrade.

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* DirtyCommunists: Subverted. The heroes are pretty clearly the UASR and communists in general, in spite of moral complexities. The ranks of Dirty Communists now includes Patton, [[UsefulNotes/DwightDEisenhower Eisenhower]], [[RichardNixon Nixon]], and J. Edgar Hoover. Even good ol' Honest [[AbrahamLincoln [[UsefulNotes/AbrahamLincoln Lincoln]] gets an in-universe posthumous baptism as a good comrade.
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* ColdWar: A three-way affair between a Stalinist SovietUnion, a democratic socialist America and the Capitalist Franco-British Union, all with assorted allies. By the 21st century it has thawed but no fully ended.


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* UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo: Threatened by the Communist governments in Moscow and Washington, Britain and France doesn't go to war over Poland in '39, leaving Germany to attack the Russians in 1940. American troops fight on the eastern front and western Europe enters the war in 1942 after an attempted German invasion of France.
* UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne: The US enters the war in 1914, leaving an entire American generation disillusioned and radicalized.
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* Sean Hannity: A pundit and writer in the same style as in real life, except a hardcore Marxist.


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* GretaGarbo: Never changes her name from Gustafsson and becomes first lady of the USRA in the late 40s.

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* GretaGarbo: Never changes her name from Gustafsson and becomes first lady of the USRA UASR in the late 40s.
* RonPaul: Secretary General of the Democratic-Republican Party (a social liberal party on right-wing of the USAR political spectrum) in 2009.
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* GretaGarbo: Never changes her name from Gustafsson and becomes first lady of the USRA in the late 40s.
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* SureWhyNot: A large amount of the canon was decided and fleshed out in discussion with readers, to the point where it could be called a collaborative work. In other instances, some readers have written their own contributions unprompted and subsequently canonized by Jello.
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The first depicts an alternate history in which President UsefulNotes/WilliamMcKinley was not assassinated, and in the resulting political climate (which marginalized Progressive reformers due to TheodoreRoosevelt never becoming president), socialism becomes much more popular in the United States (additionally, several important schisms that occurred in the socialist movement in our timeline did not occur in this one). After a much more brutal UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne (made more brutal, ironically, by the well-meaning attempts of internationalists like WilliamHowardTaft to build stable international alliances), the American populace is radicalized and heavily divided, a powder keg ready to explode, until the Great Depression sparks a revolution in the United States.

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The first depicts an alternate history in which President UsefulNotes/WilliamMcKinley was not assassinated, and in the resulting political climate (which marginalized Progressive reformers due to TheodoreRoosevelt UsefulNotes/TheodoreRoosevelt never becoming president), socialism becomes much more popular in the United States (additionally, several important schisms that occurred in the socialist movement in our timeline did not occur in this one). After a much more brutal UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne (made more brutal, ironically, by the well-meaning attempts of internationalists like WilliamHowardTaft UsefulNotes/WilliamHowardTaft to build stable international alliances), the American populace is radicalized and heavily divided, a powder keg ready to explode, until the Great Depression sparks a revolution in the United States.



* BavarianFireDrill: Essentially describes [[HerbertHoover Hoover]] and [=MacArthur=]'s suspension of the Constitution and attempted power grab. It doesn't work.

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* BavarianFireDrill: Essentially describes [[HerbertHoover [[UsefulNotes/HerbertHoover Hoover]] and [=MacArthur=]'s suspension of the Constitution and attempted power grab. It doesn't work.
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''Reds!'' is an AlternateHistory series on AlternateHistoryDotCom. The series is divided into multiple timeline arcs. The first, from which the series name is derived, is titled Reds! A Revolutionary Timeline, and focuses on the events leading up to a socialist revolution in the United States during TheGreatDepression. The second, A Red Dawn, chronicles the early development of the new Union of American Socialist Republics, and the alternate WorldWarTwo.

The first depicts an alternate history in which President WilliamMcKinley was not assassinated, and in the resulting political climate (which marginalized Progressive reformers due to TheodoreRoosevelt never becoming president), socialism becomes much more popular in the United States (additionally, several important schisms that occurred in the socialist movement in our timeline did not occur in this one). After a much more brutal WorldWarOne (made more brutal, ironically, by the well-meaning attempts of internationalists like WilliamHowardTaft to build stable international alliances), the American populace is radicalized and heavily divided, a powder keg ready to explode, until the Great Depression sparks a revolution in the United States.

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''Reds!'' is an AlternateHistory series on AlternateHistoryDotCom. The series is divided into multiple timeline arcs. The first, from which the series name is derived, is titled Reds! A Revolutionary Timeline, and focuses on the events leading up to a socialist revolution in the United States during TheGreatDepression. The second, A Red Dawn, chronicles the early development of the new Union of American Socialist Republics, and the alternate WorldWarTwo.

UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo.

The first depicts an alternate history in which President WilliamMcKinley UsefulNotes/WilliamMcKinley was not assassinated, and in the resulting political climate (which marginalized Progressive reformers due to TheodoreRoosevelt never becoming president), socialism becomes much more popular in the United States (additionally, several important schisms that occurred in the socialist movement in our timeline did not occur in this one). After a much more brutal WorldWarOne UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne (made more brutal, ironically, by the well-meaning attempts of internationalists like WilliamHowardTaft to build stable international alliances), the American populace is radicalized and heavily divided, a powder keg ready to explode, until the Great Depression sparks a revolution in the United States.



* DirtyCommunists: Subverted. The heroes are pretty clearly the UASR and communists in general, in spite of moral complexities. The ranks of Dirty Communists now includes Patton, [[DwightEisenhower Eisenhower]], [[RichardNixon Nixon]], and J. Edgar Hoover. Even good ol' Honest [[AbrahamLincoln Lincoln]] gets an in-universe posthumous baptism as a good comrade.

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* DirtyCommunists: Subverted. The heroes are pretty clearly the UASR and communists in general, in spite of moral complexities. The ranks of Dirty Communists now includes Patton, [[DwightEisenhower [[UsefulNotes/DwightDEisenhower Eisenhower]], [[RichardNixon Nixon]], and J. Edgar Hoover. Even good ol' Honest [[AbrahamLincoln Lincoln]] gets an in-universe posthumous baptism as a good comrade.



* HistoricalInJoke: Also used liberally. Bank robber John Dillinger becoming a national security agent is one of the most obvious examples, as is William F. Buckley, Jr. (one of America's foremost conservative thinkers) becoming an orthodox Marxist and J. Edgar Hoover (the commie-busting head of the {{FBI}}) switching allegiances to the new communist government in order to preserve and expand his power. And apparently in this world, it's nearly impossible to think of actor [[JohnWayne Marion Morrison]] being in a western.

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* HistoricalInJoke: Also used liberally. Bank robber John Dillinger becoming a national security agent is one of the most obvious examples, as is William F. Buckley, Jr. (one of America's foremost conservative thinkers) becoming an orthodox Marxist and J. Edgar Hoover (the commie-busting head of the {{FBI}}) switching allegiances to the new communist government in order to preserve and expand his power. And apparently in this world, it's nearly impossible to think of actor [[JohnWayne [[Creator/JohnWayne Marion Morrison]] being in a western.
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* ShellShockedVeteran: ''George Patton.'' No, really; in this timeline the US ends up entering the First Wordl War two years earlier and fighting in some of the bloodiest battles, taking much heavier losses. And Old Blood and Guts himself was on the frontline for them. He may not have developed full-blown PTSD, but he came home a greatly changed man, and ''very'' bitter towards the politicians who'd sent a million of his comrades-in-arms to their deaths for no particularly good reason.

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* ShellShockedVeteran: ''George Patton.'' No, really; in this timeline the US ends up entering the First Wordl World War two years earlier and fighting in some of the bloodiest battles, taking much heavier losses. And Old Blood and Guts himself was on the frontline front line for them. He may not have developed full-blown PTSD, but he came home a greatly changed man, and ''very'' bitter towards the politicians who'd sent a million of his comrades-in-arms to their deaths for no particularly good reason.
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''Reds!'' is an AlternateHistory series on AlternateHistoryDotCom. The series is divided into multiple timeline arcs. The first, from which the series name is derived, is titled Reds! A Revolutionary Timeline, and focuses on the events leading up to a socialist revolution in the United States during TheGreatDepression. The second, A Red Dawn, chronicles the early development of of the new Union of American Socialist Republics, and the alternate WorldWarTwo.

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''Reds!'' is an AlternateHistory series on AlternateHistoryDotCom. The series is divided into multiple timeline arcs. The first, from which the series name is derived, is titled Reds! A Revolutionary Timeline, and focuses on the events leading up to a socialist revolution in the United States during TheGreatDepression. The second, A Red Dawn, chronicles the early development of of the new Union of American Socialist Republics, and the alternate WorldWarTwo.



* {{Cincinnatus}}: The Marxist interpretation interpretation of the "dictatorship of the proletariat" is this, as enacted more-or-less successfully by the Workers' Communist Party. The principle was that during the revolution, the whole of the working class, organized by the party, would take complete control of the state in order to enact its transformative program. In-universe, how well they fit this ideal is less clear.

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* {{Cincinnatus}}: The Marxist interpretation interpretation of the "dictatorship of the proletariat" is this, as enacted more-or-less successfully by the Workers' Communist Party. The principle was that during the revolution, the whole of the working class, organized by the party, would take complete control of the state in order to enact its transformative program. In-universe, how well they fit this ideal is less clear.



* FictionalPoliticalParty: Played with; as the TL develops, new political parties form, but usually out of existing political parties. And the parties that have the same name tend to have diverged in radically different ways to become InNameOnly versions of their OTL coutnerparts.

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* GreyAndGreyMorality: Implied to be the situation between the powers in the modern day; the former colonial powers remain imperialistic and ruthlessly capitalistic, but are suggested to have had to liberalise how they treat their colonial subjects in order to avoid mass socialist uprisings, and are not nearly as fascistic as the Cold War propaganda of the UASR would depict them. The UASR is in many ways a socialist worker's paradise, but is suggested to have still done nasty things in the Cold War (and, as one source notes rather omniously, is the only major world power to still maintain a secret police force, suggesting a certain level of oppression). And the Soviet Union, after Stalin, remains authoritative but has also loosened up in light of the competing socialist ideology in the UASR.

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* GreyAndGreyMorality: Implied to be the situation between the powers in the modern day; the former colonial powers remain imperialistic and ruthlessly capitalistic, but are suggested to have had to liberalise how they treat their colonial subjects in order to avoid mass socialist uprisings, and are not nearly as fascistic as the Cold War propaganda of the UASR would depict them. The UASR is in many ways a socialist worker's paradise, but is suggested to have still done nasty things in the Cold War (and, as one source notes rather omniously, ominously, is the only major world power to still maintain a secret police force, suggesting a certain level of oppression). And the Soviet Union, after Stalin, remains authoritative but has also loosened up in light of the competing socialist ideology in the UASR.
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* ShellShockedVeteran: ''George Patton.'' No, really; in this timeline the US ends up entering the First Wordl War two years earlier and fighting in some of the bloodiest battles, taking much heavier losses. And Old Blood and Guts himself was on the frontline for them. He may not have developed full-blown PTSD, but he came home a greatly changed man, and ''very'' bitter towards the politicians who'd sent a million of his comrades-in-arms to their deaths for no particularly good reason.
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The first thread in the series, chronicling the events up to the establishment of the Union of American Socialist Republics' government, can be found [[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=122672 here]], and the second, chronicling post-Revolution events, can be found [[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=148698 here]]. The scenario is in the process of being rewritten and the rewrites of the first part of the timeline can be found [[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=168330 here]]. A collection of the canonical materials of the universe, which lacks the copious in-thread commentary from both the creators and other participants but probably makes for much easier reading, has also been compiled [[http://fools-gold.org/aaron/reds here]], but it is currently over a year out of date.

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The first thread in the series, chronicling the events up to the establishment of the Union of American Socialist Republics' government, can be found [[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=122672 here]], and the second, second and third, chronicling post-Revolution events, can be found [[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=148698 here]] and [[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=270711 here]]. The scenario is in the process of being rewritten and the rewrites of the first part of the timeline can be found [[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=168330 here]]. A collection of the canonical materials of the universe, which lacks the copious in-thread commentary from both the creators and other participants but probably makes for much easier reading, has also been compiled [[http://fools-gold.org/aaron/reds here]], but it is currently over a year out of date.
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* Douglas [=MacArthur=]: The point man for the military junta that [[ShameIfSomethingBadHappened pressured]] outgoing President Hoover into suspending the constitution and crushing the commies for good. Currently, he's PresidentEvil of the exile US government in Cuba.

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* Douglas [=MacArthur=]: The point man for the military junta that [[ShameIfSomethingBadHappened [[ShameIfSomethingHappened pressured]] outgoing President Hoover into suspending the constitution and crushing the commies for good. Currently, he's PresidentEvil of the exile US government in Cuba.
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* {{Cincinnatus}}: The Marxist interpretation interpretation of the "dictatorship of the proletariat" is this, as enacted more-or-less successfully by the Workers' Communist Party. The principle was that during the revolution, the whole of the working class, organized by the party, would take complete control of the state in order to enact its transformative program. In-universe, how well they fit this ideal is very much YourMileageMayVary.

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* {{Cincinnatus}}: The Marxist interpretation interpretation of the "dictatorship of the proletariat" is this, as enacted more-or-less successfully by the Workers' Communist Party. The principle was that during the revolution, the whole of the working class, organized by the party, would take complete control of the state in order to enact its transformative program. In-universe, how well they fit this ideal is very much YourMileageMayVary.less clear.
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* FictionalPoliticalParty: Played with; as the TL develops, new political parties form, but usually out of existing political parties. And the parties that have the same name tend to have diverged in radically different ways to become InNameOnly versions of their OTL coutnerparts.


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* SureWhyNot: A large amount of the canon was decided and fleshed out in discussion with readers, to the point where it could be called a collaborative work. In other instances, some readers have written their own contributions unprompted and subsequently canonized by Jello.


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* WellIntentionedExtremist: Practically the whole cast is made up of this. It's also generally an audience reaction, since most of those individuals are not considered extremists in-universe.

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* ActionGirl: Jane Schafer, a young woman who grew up during the revolution, and after adulthood, made the jump from PluckyGirl to this by joining the army. Not much of her character arc has been revealed yet, except for her being highly decorated for her service in the Second World War.



* AmazonBrigade: A very literal example. The all female combat units of the Red Army during the 30s and 40s are often called "the Amazon Brigades" colloquially.



* DirtyCommunists: Subverted. The heroes are pretty clearly the UASR and communists in general, in spite of moral complexities. The ranks of Dirty Communists now includes Patton, [[DwightEisenhower Eisenhower]], [[RichardNixon Nixon]], and J. Edgar Hoover. [[AbrahamLincoln Lincoln]] is also going to be RetConned as proto-socialist.
* EverybodyHasLotsOfSex: One of the consequences of the American Cultural Revolution in the mid-thirties is the liberalization of sexual mores. However, it's not entirely clear exactly ''how much'' sex constitutes "lots of sex" in this case; an in-universe discussion commenter castigates the in-universe version of ''PublicEnemies'' for depicting so many threesomes, saying he can see "that sort of thing happening in the fifties, but not the thirties." The liberalization of sexual mores is not entirely without controversy; indeed, the Left Democratic Party in this time gains a fair amount of converts by shifting radically to the left economically but to the right on moral values. A Second Cultural Revolution spanning from the late '50s through the 1970s (not yet written, but planned for future updates) results in ''even further'' liberalization of sexual mores.

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* DirtyCommunists: Subverted. The heroes are pretty clearly the UASR and communists in general, in spite of moral complexities. The ranks of Dirty Communists now includes Patton, [[DwightEisenhower Eisenhower]], [[RichardNixon Nixon]], and J. Edgar Hoover. Even good ol' Honest [[AbrahamLincoln Lincoln]] is also going to be RetConned gets an in-universe posthumous baptism as proto-socialist.
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* EverybodyHasLotsOfSex: One of the consequences of the American Cultural Revolution in the mid-thirties is the liberalization of sexual mores. However, it's not entirely clear exactly ''how much'' sex constitutes "lots of sex" in this case; an in-universe discussion commenter castigates the in-universe version of ''PublicEnemies'' for depicting so many threesomes, saying he can see "that sort of thing happening in the fifties, but not the thirties." The liberalization of sexual mores is not entirely without controversy; indeed, the Left Democratic opposition Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party in this time gains a fair amount of converts by shifting radically to the left economically but to the right on moral values. A Second Cultural Revolution spanning from the late '50s through the 1970s (not yet written, but planned for future updates) results in ''even further'' liberalization of sexual mores.


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* TomboyAndGirlyGirl: Jane and Anna, respectively, from the alternate history timeline equivalent of a LowerDeckEpisode.

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!! This work provides examples of:

* AllohistoricalAllusion: has been used liberally
* AlternateHistory: Complete with excerpts of the universe's AlternateHistoryDotCom.
* AuthorAvatar: WordOfGod says the in-universe discussion board character "flibbertygibbet" most closely represents one of the authors' (Jello_Biafra) views.

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!! This work provides examples of:

* AllohistoricalAllusion: has been used liberally
* AlternateHistory: Complete with excerpts of
Historical characters who appear or are referenced in the universe's AlternateHistoryDotCom.
* AuthorAvatar: WordOfGod says the in-universe discussion board character "flibbertygibbet" most closely represents one of the authors' (Jello_Biafra) views.
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* BavarianFireDrill: Essentially describes [[HerbertHoover Hoover]] and [=MacArthur=]'s suspension of the Constitution and attempted power grab. It doesn't work.
* BlackAndGreyMorality: The UASR is presented in a more positive light than most of the other governments of the time, but it is far from perfect. Amongst its abuses include the setting up of kangaroo courts and the execution of potentially innocent civilians (though nowhere near on the scale of Stalinist Russia).
* BombThrowingAnarchists: Subverted. Emma Goldman, aka Red Emma, is a powerful figure in the Revolutionary government. This causes much debate in the Anarchist Movement. Anarcho-syndicalism in particular plays a large part in the organisation that enables the Red May revolution and it has been hinted that Chicago may effectively become an anarchist commune.
* DirtyCommunists: Subverted. The heroes are pretty clearly the UASR and communists in general, in spite of moral complexities. The ranks of Dirty Communists now includes Patton, [[DwightEisenhower Eisenhower]], [[RichardNixon Nixon]], and J. Edgar Hoover. [[AbrahamLincoln Lincoln]] is also going to be RetConned as proto-socialist.
* EverybodyHasLotsOfSex: One of the consequences of the American Cultural Revolution in the mid-thirties is the liberalization of sexual mores. However, it's not entirely clear exactly ''how much'' sex constitutes "lots of sex" in this case; an in-universe discussion commenter castigates the in-universe version of ''PublicEnemies'' for depicting so many threesomes, saying he can see "that sort of thing happening in the fifties, but not the thirties." The liberalization of sexual mores is not entirely without controversy; indeed, the Left Democratic Party in this time gains a fair amount of converts by shifting radically to the left economically but to the right on moral values. A Second Cultural Revolution spanning from the late '50s through the 1970s (not yet written, but planned for future updates) results in ''even further'' liberalization of sexual mores.
** It's also noted by a present-day member of a web forum from America that this is apparently exaggerated in-universe outside of America; in something corresponding roughly to the dominant cultural mores of contemporary American society in the actual timeline, places like New York and California tend to be ''very'' socially liberal (and thus closer to this trope) whereas places in the Midwest and the South, while perhaps more liberal in these ways, still tend to be more conservative.
* ForWantOfANail: Originally the timeline diverged entirely because a racist cop in Buffalo happened to pick on a certain Polish immigrant. While this remains probably the biggest inciting event for the divergence from our timeline, it is not the point of departure in the rewrite.
* GeneralRipper: General Douglas [=MacArthur=] lives up to this during the Second American Civil War and subsequent dictatorship in exile in Cuba.

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* BavarianFireDrill: Essentially describes [[HerbertHoover Hoover]] and [=MacArthur=]'s suspension of the Constitution and attempted power grab. It doesn't work.
* BlackAndGreyMorality:
Douglas [=MacArthur=]: The UASR is presented in a more positive light than most of the other governments of the time, but it is far from perfect. Amongst its abuses include the setting up of kangaroo courts and the execution of potentially innocent civilians (though nowhere near on the scale of Stalinist Russia).
* BombThrowingAnarchists: Subverted. Emma Goldman, aka Red Emma, is a powerful figure in the Revolutionary government. This causes much debate in the Anarchist Movement. Anarcho-syndicalism in particular plays a large part in the organisation that enables the Red May revolution and it has been hinted that Chicago may effectively become an anarchist commune.
* DirtyCommunists: Subverted. The heroes are pretty clearly the UASR and communists in general, in spite of moral complexities. The ranks of Dirty Communists now includes Patton, [[DwightEisenhower Eisenhower]], [[RichardNixon Nixon]], and J. Edgar Hoover. [[AbrahamLincoln Lincoln]] is also going to be RetConned as proto-socialist.
* EverybodyHasLotsOfSex: One of the consequences of the American Cultural Revolution in the mid-thirties is the liberalization of sexual mores. However, it's not entirely clear exactly ''how much'' sex constitutes "lots of sex" in this case; an in-universe discussion commenter castigates the in-universe version of ''PublicEnemies'' for depicting so many threesomes, saying he can see "that sort of thing happening in the fifties, but not the thirties." The liberalization of sexual mores is not entirely without controversy; indeed, the Left Democratic Party in this time gains a fair amount of converts by shifting radically to the left economically but to the right on moral values. A Second Cultural Revolution spanning from the late '50s through the 1970s (not yet written, but planned for future updates) results in ''even further'' liberalization of sexual mores.
** It's also noted by a present-day member of a web forum from America that this is apparently exaggerated in-universe outside of America; in something corresponding roughly to the dominant cultural mores of contemporary American society in the actual timeline, places like New York and California tend to be ''very'' socially liberal (and thus closer to this trope) whereas places in the Midwest and the South, while perhaps more liberal in these ways, still tend to be more conservative.
* ForWantOfANail: Originally the timeline diverged entirely because a racist cop in Buffalo happened to pick on a certain Polish immigrant. While this remains probably the biggest inciting event
point man for the divergence from our timeline, it is not military junta that [[ShameIfSomethingBadHappened pressured]] outgoing President Hoover into suspending the point of departure in constitution and crushing the rewrite.
* GeneralRipper: General Douglas [=MacArthur=] lives up to this during
commies for good. Currently, he's PresidentEvil of the Second American Civil War and subsequent dictatorship in exile US government in Cuba.


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* George Patton: Old Blood and Guts has lived a very different life and had a very different military career. So different that he's one of the main military leaders of the revolution.
* RichardNixon: Revealed to eventually become head of government of the UASR, though currently he has only directly appeared in a short story, as a head of a local military committee drumming up recruitment, and has a conversation with the protagonist about her choice to sign up.

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* AllohistoricalAllusion: has been used liberally
* AlternateHistory: Complete with excerpts of the universe's AlternateHistoryDotCom.
* AuthorAvatar: WordOfGod says the in-universe discussion board character "flibbertygibbet" most closely represents one of the authors' (Jello_Biafra) views.
* BavarianFireDrill: Essentially describes [[HerbertHoover Hoover]] and [=MacArthur=]'s suspension of the Constitution and attempted power grab. It doesn't work.
* BlackAndGreyMorality: The UASR is presented in a more positive light than most of the other governments of the time, but it is far from perfect. Amongst its abuses include the setting up of kangaroo courts and the execution of potentially innocent civilians (though nowhere near on the scale of Stalinist Russia).
* BombThrowingAnarchists: Subverted. Emma Goldman, aka Red Emma, is a powerful figure in the Revolutionary government. This causes much debate in the Anarchist Movement. Anarcho-syndicalism in particular plays a large part in the organisation that enables the Red May revolution and it has been hinted that Chicago may effectively become an anarchist commune.
* DirtyCommunists: Subverted. The heroes are pretty clearly the UASR and communists in general, in spite of moral complexities. The ranks of Dirty Communists now includes Patton, [[DwightEisenhower Eisenhower]], [[RichardNixon Nixon]], and J. Edgar Hoover. [[AbrahamLincoln Lincoln]] is also going to be RetConned as proto-socialist.
* EverybodyHasLotsOfSex: One of the consequences of the American Cultural Revolution in the mid-thirties is the liberalization of sexual mores. However, it's not entirely clear exactly ''how much'' sex constitutes "lots of sex" in this case; an in-universe discussion commenter castigates the in-universe version of ''PublicEnemies'' for depicting so many threesomes, saying he can see "that sort of thing happening in the fifties, but not the thirties." The liberalization of sexual mores is not entirely without controversy; indeed, the Left Democratic Party in this time gains a fair amount of converts by shifting radically to the left economically but to the right on moral values. A Second Cultural Revolution spanning from the late '50s through the 1970s (not yet written, but planned for future updates) results in ''even further'' liberalization of sexual mores.
** It's also noted by a present-day member of a web forum from America that this is apparently exaggerated in-universe outside of America; in something corresponding roughly to the dominant cultural mores of contemporary American society in the actual timeline, places like New York and California tend to be ''very'' socially liberal (and thus closer to this trope) whereas places in the Midwest and the South, while perhaps more liberal in these ways, still tend to be more conservative.
* ForWantOfANail: Originally the timeline diverged entirely because a racist cop in Buffalo happened to pick on a certain Polish immigrant. While this remains probably the biggest inciting event for the divergence from our timeline, it is not the point of departure in the rewrite.
** The new point of divergence is even less flashy. The divergence occurs initially from a slightly different outcome of the interaction between two minor socialist groups at the end of the 1800s, which ends up averting a split in both that weakened the whole movement, and thus setting off a cascade of butterfly effect changes.
* FramingDevice: The timeline is generally told through in universe historical documents, but also through glimpses of discussion by board members of the alternate world's AH.com.
* GeneralRipper: General Douglas [=MacArthur=] lives up to this during the Second American Civil War and subsequent dictatorship in exile in Cuba.


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* EverybodyHasLotsOfSex: One of the consequences of the American Cultural Revolution in the mid-thirties is the liberalization of sexual mores. However, it's not entirely clear exactly ''how much'' sex constitutes "lots of sex" in this case; an in-universe discussion commenter castigates the in-universe version of ''PublicEnemies'' for depicting so many threesomes, saying he can see "that sort of thing happening in the fifties, but not the thirties." The liberalization of sexual mores is not entirely without controversy; indeed, the Left Democratic Party in this time gains a fair amount of converts by shifting radically to the left economically, but remaining more conservative on sexual freedom. A Second Cultural Revolution spanning from the late '50s through the 1970s (not yet written, but planned for future updates) results in ''even further'' liberalization of sexual mores.

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* EverybodyHasLotsOfSex: One of the consequences of the American Cultural Revolution in the mid-thirties is the liberalization of sexual mores. However, it's not entirely clear exactly ''how much'' sex constitutes "lots of sex" in this case; an in-universe discussion commenter castigates the in-universe version of ''PublicEnemies'' for depicting so many threesomes, saying he can see "that sort of thing happening in the fifties, but not the thirties." The liberalization of sexual mores is not entirely without controversy; indeed, the Left Democratic Party in this time gains a fair amount of converts by shifting radically to the left economically, economically but remaining more conservative to the right on sexual freedom.moral values. A Second Cultural Revolution spanning from the late '50s through the 1970s (not yet written, but planned for future updates) results in ''even further'' liberalization of sexual mores.



* HistoricalInJoke: Also used liberally. John Dillinger becoming a national security agent is one of the most obvious examples, as is William F. Buckley, Jr., the orthodox Marxist. And apparently in this world, it's nearly impossible to think of actor [[JohnWayne Marion Morrison]] being in a western.

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* HistoricalInJoke: Also used liberally. Bank robber John Dillinger becoming a national security agent is one of the most obvious examples, as is William F. Buckley, Jr., the (one of America's foremost conservative thinkers) becoming an orthodox Marxist. Marxist and J. Edgar Hoover (the commie-busting head of the {{FBI}}) switching allegiances to the new communist government in order to preserve and expand his power. And apparently in this world, it's nearly impossible to think of actor [[JohnWayne Marion Morrison]] being in a western.western.
** Not to mention Cuba becoming the seat of the capitalist US government in exile



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''Reds!'' is an AlternateHistory ongoing series being published at AlternateHistoryDotCom. The series is divided into multiple timeline arcs. The first, from which the series name is derived, is titled Reds! A Revolutionary Timeline, and focuses on the events leading up to a socialist revolution in the United States during TheGreatDepression. The second, A Red Dawn, chronicles the early development of of the new Union of American Socialist Republics, and the alternate WorldWarTwo.

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''Reds!'' is an AlternateHistory ongoing series being published at on AlternateHistoryDotCom. The series is divided into multiple timeline arcs. The first, from which the series name is derived, is titled Reds! A Revolutionary Timeline, and focuses on the events leading up to a socialist revolution in the United States during TheGreatDepression. The second, A Red Dawn, chronicles the early development of of the new Union of American Socialist Republics, and the alternate WorldWarTwo.
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''Reds!'' is an AlternateHistory ongoing series being published at AlternateHistoryDotCom. The series is divided into multiple timeline arcs. The first, from which the series name is derived, is titled Reds! A Revolutionary Timeline, and focuses on the events leading up to a socialist revolution in the United States during TheGreatDepression. The second, A Red Dawn, chronicles the early development of of the new Union of American Socialist Republics, and the alternate WorldWarTwo.

The first depicts an alternate history in which President WilliamMcKinley was not assassinated, and in the resulting political climate (which marginalized Progressive reformers due to TheodoreRoosevelt never becoming president), socialism becomes much more popular in the United States (additionally, several important schisms that occurred in the socialist movement in our timeline did not occur in this one). After a much more brutal WorldWarOne (made more brutal, ironically, by the well-meaning attempts of internationalists like WilliamHowardTaft to build stable international alliances), the American populace is radicalized and heavily divided, a powder keg ready to explode, until the Great Depression sparks a revolution in the United States.

The first thread in the series, chronicling the events up to the establishment of the Union of American Socialist Republics' government, can be found [[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=122672 here]], and the second, chronicling post-Revolution events, can be found [[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=148698 here]]. The scenario is in the process of being rewritten and the rewrites of the first part of the timeline can be found [[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=168330 here]]. A collection of the canonical materials of the universe, which lacks the copious in-thread commentary from both the creators and other participants but probably makes for much easier reading, has also been compiled [[http://fools-gold.org/aaron/reds here]], but it is currently over a year out of date.

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!! This work provides examples of:
* AllohistoricalAllusion: has been used liberally
* AlternateHistory: Complete with excerpts of the universe's AlternateHistoryDotCom.
* AuthorAvatar: WordOfGod says the in-universe discussion board character "flibbertygibbet" most closely represents one of the authors' (Jello_Biafra) views.
* Creator/AynRand: This world is 100 percent guaranteed to make her squirm. After self-imposed exile from her adopted country, her work has become decidedly more dystopian than it would have been and, if possible, even ''more'' politically extremist.
* BavarianFireDrill: Essentially describes [[HerbertHoover Hoover]] and [=MacArthur=]'s suspension of the Constitution and attempted power grab. It doesn't work.
* BlackAndGreyMorality: The UASR is presented in a more positive light than most of the other governments of the time, but it is far from perfect. Amongst its abuses include the setting up of kangaroo courts and the execution of potentially innocent civilians (though nowhere near on the scale of Stalinist Russia).
* BombThrowingAnarchists: Subverted. Emma Goldman, aka Red Emma, is a powerful figure in the Revolutionary government. This causes much debate in the Anarchist Movement. Anarcho-syndicalism in particular plays a large part in the organisation that enables the Red May revolution and it has been hinted that Chicago may effectively become an anarchist commune.
* DirtyCommunists: Subverted. The heroes are pretty clearly the UASR and communists in general, in spite of moral complexities. The ranks of Dirty Communists now includes Patton, [[DwightEisenhower Eisenhower]], [[RichardNixon Nixon]], and J. Edgar Hoover. [[AbrahamLincoln Lincoln]] is also going to be RetConned as proto-socialist.
* EverybodyHasLotsOfSex: One of the consequences of the American Cultural Revolution in the mid-thirties is the liberalization of sexual mores. However, it's not entirely clear exactly ''how much'' sex constitutes "lots of sex" in this case; an in-universe discussion commenter castigates the in-universe version of ''PublicEnemies'' for depicting so many threesomes, saying he can see "that sort of thing happening in the fifties, but not the thirties." The liberalization of sexual mores is not entirely without controversy; indeed, the Left Democratic Party in this time gains a fair amount of converts by shifting radically to the left economically, but remaining more conservative on sexual freedom. A Second Cultural Revolution spanning from the late '50s through the 1970s (not yet written, but planned for future updates) results in ''even further'' liberalization of sexual mores.
** It's also noted by a present-day member of a web forum from America that this is apparently exaggerated in-universe outside of America; in something corresponding roughly to the dominant cultural mores of contemporary American society in the actual timeline, places like New York and California tend to be ''very'' socially liberal (and thus closer to this trope) whereas places in the Midwest and the South, while perhaps more liberal in these ways, still tend to be more conservative.
* ForWantOfANail: Originally the timeline diverged entirely because a racist cop in Buffalo happened to pick on a certain Polish immigrant. While this remains probably the biggest inciting event for the divergence from our timeline, it is not the point of departure in the rewrite.
* GeneralRipper: General Douglas [=MacArthur=] lives up to this during the Second American Civil War and subsequent dictatorship in exile in Cuba.
* Creator/GeorgeOrwell: Still hates the USSR, cautiously optimistic about Red America. His stories are less soul-crushingly depressing. ''The Last Man in Europe'' (this timeline's version of ''Literature/NineteenEightyFour'') becomes less of a ShootTheShaggyDog story as Winston Smith escapes to America and witnesses a debate in Times Square.
* GreyAndGreyMorality: Implied to be the situation between the powers in the modern day; the former colonial powers remain imperialistic and ruthlessly capitalistic, but are suggested to have had to liberalise how they treat their colonial subjects in order to avoid mass socialist uprisings, and are not nearly as fascistic as the Cold War propaganda of the UASR would depict them. The UASR is in many ways a socialist worker's paradise, but is suggested to have still done nasty things in the Cold War (and, as one source notes rather omniously, is the only major world power to still maintain a secret police force, suggesting a certain level of oppression). And the Soviet Union, after Stalin, remains authoritative but has also loosened up in light of the competing socialist ideology in the UASR.
* HeelFaceTurn: J. Edgar Hoover kind of qualifies; he goes from being a hardline reactionary to a hardline revolutionary, mostly because doing so allows him to maximise the amount of power available to him. His authoritarianism, however, remains essentially unchanged, if it doesn't increase in the transition.
* HeroicSacrifice: Huey Long, among others. Long had good reason to suspect that standing up for the Constitution would have dangerous consequences; he chose to do so anyway.
* HistoricalInJoke: Also used liberally. John Dillinger becoming a national security agent is one of the most obvious examples, as is William F. Buckley, Jr., the orthodox Marxist. And apparently in this world, it's nearly impossible to think of actor [[JohnWayne Marion Morrison]] being in a western.
* HistoricalHeroUpgrade: Trotsky suffers from this for the most part. While Stalin was bad, Trotsky was arguably just as bad as Stalin, but again, it depends on the teller of the story who was in the right in that event.
** In-universe, the Ku Klux Klan appears to have benefited from this kind of treatment outside of America, in nations unfriendly to the socialist government.
* HoistByHisOwnPetard: [=MacArthur=]'s coup, intended to crush a potential socialist insurgency before it started, ended up creating such a storm of popular and political outrage amongst the military, politicians and the general public that it led to the revolution he was afraid of in the first place, which in turn ended up with him and the other remnants of the former United States finding themselves in exile to Cuba.
* InSpiteOfANail: It's suggested that in spite of a socialist government in the UASR, the Soviet Union and America still end up in a Cold War, including a nuclear arms race, with each other. There's also some familiar names popping up in familiar positions, such as RichardNixon.
* IstanbulNotConstantinople: All of the government bureaus and branches are given new names under the new government. The Dominican Republic gets renamed to the People's Republic of Quisqueya as well.
* KangarooCourt: Many of the counter-revolutionaries captured by the UASR during the early days of its existence are given ludicrously unfair show trials. Granted, large percentages of them are probably guilty, but that doesn't make it any less unfair. That said, those who aren't executed all get pardoned after about eleven years.
* LastStand: The Battle of Moscow.
* {{Nepotism}}: Sort of. Patton keeps his socialist views secret from his superiors and surrounds himself with sympathetic officers, presumably assuming that he can use a cadre of loyal officers to his advantage. When he receives orders to enforce the suspension of the Constitution, he leads a rebellion. This is unusual in that it's one of the rare occasions in which nepotism is presented as having led to a positive outcome, and also unusual in that the officers he surrounds himself with are ''not'' depicted as incompetent.
* OneFederationLimit: Defied. In the post-WW2 world, the three superpowers are the Franco-British Union, the Union of American Socialist Republics, and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. And that's just the three top dogs.
* PresidentEvil: General [=MacArthur=], full stop.
* ThePurge: Stalin's Soviet Union and Foster's UASR both play it straight. In the latter case, it is treated historically as a WhatTheHellHero moment.
* PuttingOnTheReich: Integralist Brazil. Post-Second World War Britain and France get pretty close to this. Propaganda on all sides of the Cold War will feature this for enemies.
* TheRevolutionWillNotBeCivilized[=/=]TheRevolutionWillNotBeVilified: Employs both tropes to an extent; it's more like The Revolution Will Not Be Sunshine and Rainbows. The new government in America may be more democratic then the Soviet Union, but it is far from squeamish. Nonetheless, it pretty unambiguously has the moral high ground over the U.S. government, which was willing to suspend the Constitution and declare war on its own populace when an election went in a manner it didn't like. The UASR government isn't perfect about following its own Constitution in the early days either (in fact, it's quite authoritarian, although nowhere near as much as the USSR's government), but it doesn't suppress the electoral vote when an election goes awry. Anti-authoritarian currents in American society appear to have won out by the present day, as the Red Terror seems to be pretty universally regarded as a mistake.
* ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem[=/=]ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney: Essentially the reaction of the capitalist powers and President Herbert Hoover after the Socialists win the 1932 election. They soon find out that no, they ''don't'' make the rules.
* SelfFulfillingProphecy: One of the in-universe historical texts frames the Second Civil War and the American socialist revolution in this way, suggesting that in declaring the election void and seizing power by force against the will of the people, [=MacArthur=] and the other coup leaders ended up creating the very socialist uprising and revolution that they were afraid would overthrow them in the first place.
* ThoseWackyNazis: As hinted by in-TL historical discussion, played depressingly straight.
* {{Utopia}}: Deconstructed. Is life in the UASR better? Perhaps. Is it very different? Absolutely. The authors seem to take a subjective approach. While communism is often seen as a utopian ideology, and the UASR has many of the facets of utopia (free love, classless society, great freedoms), this comes at a cost that people socialized to live in a capitalist, democratic republic might find quite uncomfortable, such as very great social pressures to participate in political and social life, and other duties that don't gel well with an individualistic society. The cultural and social values that developed over a century of tremendous divergence, revolution and the like are very much alien.
* WeAREStrugglingTogether: Subverted; both during the Civil War and the Cultural Revolution, the American socialist system's greater flexibility in dealing with ideological differences (both within the socialist parties themselves and in allowing the inclusion of right-leaning Democrats and Republicans who opposed the Junta into the political process) ultimately proves more durable than the Soviet system's rigid ideological inflexibility. Played straight with the relationship between the Soviet Union and the UASR, who despite both being socialist end up in a Cold War with each other anyway.
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