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* Anti-Mage, from ''VideoGame/{{DOTA 2}}'' who is entirely based around... well, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin being good against mages]], was an acolyte in a monastery in which the monks living within were killed by [[OurZombiesAreDifferent a legion of the undead.]] Anti-Mage's reaction? Not to declare war on the undead, but on [[UpToEleven all magic and every mage in the world]]. One wouldn't even know about his grudge against the undead if it weren't for [[GameplayAndStorySegregation a single offhanded line he says when killing the only Zombie-based hero in the game.]]
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* Anti-Mage, from ''VideoGame/{{DOTA 2}}'' who is entirely based around... well, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin being good against mages]], was an acolyte in a monastery in which the monks living within were killed by [[OurZombiesAreDifferent a legion of the undead.]] Anti-Mage's reaction? Not to declare war on the undead, but on [[UpToEleven all ''all magic and every mage in the world]]. world.'' One wouldn't even know about his grudge against the undead if it weren't for [[GameplayAndStorySegregation a single offhanded line he says when killing the only Zombie-based hero in the game.]]
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* In ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'' you would think that [[BigBad Hazama]], [[MadScientist Kokonoe]], [[KnightTemplar Jin Kisaragi]], or even [[TheDragon Relius Clover]] could be capable of this it's really [[GoneHorriblyWrong Lotte Carmine]] (who admittedly actually is insane) and [[AndIMustScream Ada Clover]] (the latter to a small extent).
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* In ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'' ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'', you would think that [[BigBad Hazama]], [[MadScientist Kokonoe]], [[KnightTemplar Jin Kisaragi]], or even [[TheDragon Relius Clover]] could be capable of this it's this. It's really [[GoneHorriblyWrong Lotte Carmine]] (who admittedly actually is insane) and [[AndIMustScream Ada Clover]] (the latter to a small extent).
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* Played for horror in ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs''. After his FaceHeelTurn, Superman becomes the JudgeJuryAndExecutioner obsessed with ending crime at all costs. But after [[spoiler:he killed his ally Lex Luthor on live TV]] and heard the growing dissent against his tyrannical rule on Earth, he [[VillainousBreakdown rants]] that the people are [[UngratefulBastard "ungrateful"]] for his "protection," and unleashes his forces on Metropolis and Gotham to ScareEmStraight. Plus, he justifies murdering the Joker [[spoiler:for tricking him into killing his wife Lois Lane and nuking Metropolis]] by claiming it was "[[HeWhoFightsMonsters done to save millions of lives]]," but everyone knows he did it in revenge, not altruism.
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* Played for horror in ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs''. After his FaceHeelTurn, Superman becomes the JudgeJuryAndExecutioner obsessed with ending crime at all costs. But after [[spoiler:he killed his ally Lex Luthor on live TV]] and heard the growing dissent against his tyrannical rule on Earth, he [[VillainousBreakdown rants]] that the people are [[UngratefulBastard "ungrateful"]] for his "protection," "protection" and unleashes his forces on Metropolis and Gotham to ScareEmStraight. Plus, he He also justifies murdering killing the Joker [[spoiler:for tricking him into killing his wife Lois Lane and nuking Metropolis]] by claiming it was "[[HeWhoFightsMonsters done to save millions of lives]]," but everyone knows he did it in revenge, not altruism.
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* Jean-Luc Measurehead in ''VideoGame/DiscoElysium'' is a racial supremacist and hardcore believer in anthropometric-based racism, to the point he has phrenology charts tattooed all over his body. The problem? Measurehead is black and anthorpometric racism is complete rubbish that claims white people are superior. His justification is that Occidentals have fallen into weakness after stopping colonization and crushing lesser civilizations, but especially because they ''drink [[InsistentTerminology al gul]], smoke tobacco and eat potatoes'' and don't partake in "semen retention", meaning the science is sound but his race is the superior one.
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* ''VisualNovel/TheGreatAceAttorney'' features the great detective himself, Sherlock Holmes, whose thinking is often flawed. Naruhodo often has to correct his reasoning, which can border on the absurd.
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* ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoV'' allows you to start a fight with someone and then call the police on them - and if they are armed it will result in them getting shot. You can use this to rob Ammunation and assist you in Gang Attacks, to name a couplee.
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* ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoV'' allows you to start a fight with someone and then call the police on them - and if they are armed it will result in them getting shot. You can use this to rob Ammunation and assist you in Gang Attacks, to name a couplee.couple.
* ''VisualNovel/TheGreatAceAttorney'' features the great detective himself, [[WritingAroundTrademarks Herlock Sholmes]], whose thinking is often flawed. Naruhodo often has to correct his reasoning, which can border on the absurd.
* ''VisualNovel/TheGreatAceAttorney'' features the great detective himself, [[WritingAroundTrademarks Herlock Sholmes]], whose thinking is often flawed. Naruhodo often has to correct his reasoning, which can border on the absurd.
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* ''Franchise/{{Castlevania}}'':
** Graham in ''VideoGame/CastlevaniaAriaOfSorrow'' declares that he is destined to inherit Dracula's powers simply because he was born on the day Dracula was destroyed. Nevermind the fact that there were millions of other people who were also born on that day.
** ''Dawn of Sorrow'' reveals that multiple other people born on that day also inherited portions of Dracula's power, lending some credibility to Graham's claim, and Celia's cult is dedicated to recruiting and grooming them into becoming the next incarnation of Dracula.
** Graham in ''VideoGame/CastlevaniaAriaOfSorrow'' declares that he is destined to inherit Dracula's powers simply because he was born on the day Dracula was destroyed. Nevermind the fact that there were millions of other people who were also born on that day.
** ''Dawn of Sorrow'' reveals that multiple other people born on that day also inherited portions of Dracula's power, lending some credibility to Graham's claim, and Celia's cult is dedicated to recruiting and grooming them into becoming the next incarnation of Dracula.
* The whole setting is full of this in ''VideoGame/TheOuterWorlds'' thanks to OneNationUnderCopyright and everyone being completely indoctrinated in corporate loyalty. For example, at one point you can overhear a conversation between two workers about a third worker being gone. He was the guy who made the wanted posters for Phineas Welles. Corporate security had orders to round up anyone with a connection to Welles. Making the wanted posters is "a connection." Both of the workers think this was brilliant.
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* The whole setting is full of this in ''VideoGame/TheOuterWorlds'' thanks to OneNationUnderCopyright and everyone being completely indoctrinated in corporate loyalty. For example, at one point you can overhear a conversation between two workers about a third worker being gone. He was the guy who made the wanted posters for Phineas Welles. Corporate security had orders to round up anyone with a connection to Welles. Making the wanted posters is "a connection." Both of the workers think this was brilliant.
* Graham in ''VideoGame/CastlevaniaAriaOfSorrow'' declares that he is destined to inherit Dracula's powers simply because he was born on the day Dracula was destroyed. Nevermind the fact that there were millions of other people who were also born on that day.
** ''Dawn of Sorrow'' reveals that multiple other people born on that day also inherited portions of Dracula's power, lending some credibility to Graham's claim, and Celia's cult is dedicated to recruiting and grooming them into becoming the next incarnation of Dracula.
* Graham in ''VideoGame/CastlevaniaAriaOfSorrow'' declares that he is destined to inherit Dracula's powers simply because he was born on the day Dracula was destroyed. Nevermind the fact that there were millions of other people who were also born on that day.
** ''Dawn of Sorrow'' reveals that multiple other people born on that day also inherited portions of Dracula's power, lending some credibility to Graham's claim, and Celia's cult is dedicated to recruiting and grooming them into becoming the next incarnation of Dracula.
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* Graham in ''VideoGame/CastlevaniaAriaOfSorrow'' declares that he is destined to inherit Dracula's powers simply because he was born on the day Dracula was destroyed. Nevermind the fact that there were millions of other people who were also born on that day.
** ''Dawn of Sorrow'' reveals that multiple other people born on that day also inherited portions of Dracula's power, lending some credibility to Graham's claim, and Celia's cult is dedicated to recruiting and grooming them into becoming the next incarnation of Dracula.
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* ''VideoGame/DaiGyakutenSaiban'' features the great detective himself, Sherlock Holmes, whose thinking is often flawed. Naruhodo often has to correct his reasoning, which can border on the absurd.
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* ''VideoGame/DaiGyakutenSaiban'' ''VisualNovel/TheGreatAceAttorney'' features the great detective himself, Sherlock Holmes, whose thinking is often flawed. Naruhodo often has to correct his reasoning, which can border on the absurd.
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* Played for horror in ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs''. After his FaceHeelTurn, Superman [[JudgeJuryAndExecutioner becomes a]] WellIntentionedExtremist [[KnightTemplar obsessed with]] ending crime at all costs. However, after people [[spoiler:witnessed him killing his ally Lex Luthor on live TV and hearing the growing dissent against his tyrannical rule on Earth]], he [[VillainousBreakdown rants]] that they are [[UngratefulBastard "ungrateful"]] for his "protection," and unleashes his forces on Metropolis and Gotham [[ScareEmStraight to crush any dissent]].
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* Played for horror in ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs''. After his FaceHeelTurn, Superman [[JudgeJuryAndExecutioner becomes a]] WellIntentionedExtremist [[KnightTemplar obsessed with]] ending crime at all costs. However, after people [[spoiler:witnessed him killing his ally Lex Luthor on live TV and hearing the growing dissent against his tyrannical rule on Earth]], he [[VillainousBreakdown rants]] that they are [[UngratefulBastard "ungrateful"]] for his "protection," and unleashes his forces on Metropolis and Gotham [[ScareEmStraight to crush any dissent]].
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** Even more troll logic can be seen in Balthandier's plan in the final chapter. Not that it stops the heroes from [[NiceJobBreakingItHero going along with it anyway]]. [[spoiler:The fal'Cie want to be reunited with their god. In order to do that a MASSIVE number of humans need to die, as in all of Cocoon. The fal'Cie power Cocoon, and so if they were to die then Cocoon would fall to Pulse, killing all the humans and bringing the gods back to the world. The problem? They cannot self destruct, and no human can harm them, so they create l'Cie to kill them. Okay so far... but then he tells the heros the plan to die at their hands thus killing all humans. Being heros they refuse, so enter the troll logic. If they don't do it then he'll manipulate the human military to do it instead. WAIT A MINUTE! You just told us humans can't hurt you and only we can. What will that accomplish? No matter, we now must stop you from manipulating the human military by killing you! What do you mean it was your plan all along to make us kill you and we just said we wouldn't? YOU HAVE TO BE STOPPED!]]
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** Even more troll logic can be seen in Balthandier's plan in the final chapter. Not that it stops the heroes from [[NiceJobBreakingItHero going along with it anyway]]. [[spoiler:The fal'Cie want to be reunited with their god. In order to do that a MASSIVE number of humans need to die, as in all of Cocoon. The fal'Cie power Cocoon, and so if they were to die then Cocoon would fall to Pulse, killing all the humans and bringing the gods back to the world. The problem? They cannot self destruct, and no human can harm them, so they create l'Cie to kill them. Okay so far... but then he tells the heros heroes the plan to die at their hands thus killing all humans. Being heros heroes they refuse, so enter the troll logic. If they don't do it then he'll manipulate the human military to do it instead. WAIT A MINUTE! You just told us humans can't hurt you and only we can. What will that accomplish? No matter, we now must stop you from manipulating the human military by killing you! What do you mean it was your plan all along to make us kill you and we just said we wouldn't? YOU HAVE TO BE STOPPED!]]
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** Even more troll logic can be seen in Balthandier's plan in the final chapter. Not that it stops the heros from [[NiceJobBreakingItHero going along with it anyway]]. [[spoiler:The fal'Cie want to be reunited with their god. In order to do that a MASSIVE number of humans need to die, as in all of Cocoon. The fal'Cie power Cocoon, and so if they were to die then Cocoon would fall to Pulse, killing all the humans and bringing the gods back to the world. The problem? They cannot self destruct, and no human can harm them, so they create l'Cie to kill them. Okay so far... but then he tells the heros the plan to die at their hands thus killing all humans. Being heros they refuse, so enter the troll logic. If they don't do it then he'll manipulate the human military to do it instead. WAIT A MINUTE! You just told us humans can't hurt you and only we can. What will that accomplish? No matter, we now must stop you from manipulating the human military by killing you! What do you mean it was your plan all along to make us kill you and we just said we wouldn't? YOU HAVE TO BE STOPPED!]]
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** Even more troll logic can be seen in Balthandier's plan in the final chapter. Not that it stops the heros heroes from [[NiceJobBreakingItHero going along with it anyway]]. [[spoiler:The fal'Cie want to be reunited with their god. In order to do that a MASSIVE number of humans need to die, as in all of Cocoon. The fal'Cie power Cocoon, and so if they were to die then Cocoon would fall to Pulse, killing all the humans and bringing the gods back to the world. The problem? They cannot self destruct, and no human can harm them, so they create l'Cie to kill them. Okay so far... but then he tells the heros the plan to die at their hands thus killing all humans. Being heros they refuse, so enter the troll logic. If they don't do it then he'll manipulate the human military to do it instead. WAIT A MINUTE! You just told us humans can't hurt you and only we can. What will that accomplish? No matter, we now must stop you from manipulating the human military by killing you! What do you mean it was your plan all along to make us kill you and we just said we wouldn't? YOU HAVE TO BE STOPPED!]]
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* Graham in ''VideoGame/CastlevaniaAriaOfSorrow'' declares that he is destined to inherit Dracula's powers simply because he was born on the day Dracula was destroyed. Nevermind the fact that there were millions of other people who were also born on that day.
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'''Squiddy:''' I bet he's the one who kidnapped [[EverythingsBetterWithPrincesses the princess]].\\
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** A flashback in ReMIND both explains his reasoning and shows the gaping hole in it that he always ignores. Xehanort is convinced that people's hearts are inherently weak; accusing their light of being a farce, he claims that they repeatedly steal power from each other and delude themselves into thinking they've earned it, using "hollow reasons as justification", and would plunge the whole World into chaos with their uncontrolled darkness if they kept this up. His solution was to become the master of darkness itself, purge all those weak hearts and their false lights, and harness the original light of Kingdom Hearts to maintain order in the new, empty world. Given what he apparently witnessed on his world tour, it's an understandable world-view... but then he arbitrarily decides that his OWN heart is somehow different, and over the course of the next 75 years does EXACTLY what he'd accused all those "weak-hearted" people of doing. Why? Because he can sense where he's meant to go and what he's supposed to do. StableTimeLoop or not, this is far from a rational basis for a decision, and one gets the impression that his whole worldview was partially created by projecting his OWN flaws on everyone else.
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* The whole setting is full of this in ''VideoGame/TheOuterWorlds'' thanks to OneNationUnderCopyright and everyone being completely indoctrinated in corporate loyalty. For example, at one point you can overhear a conversation between two workers about a third worker being gone. He was the guy who made the wanted posters for Phineas Welles. Corporate security had orders to round up anyone with a connection to Welles. Making the wanted posters is "a connection." Both of the workers think this was brilliant.
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* In ''[[VideoGame/TouchDetective Touch Detective 3]]'', Inspector Daria and Mackenzie are both stumped as to why someone has been going around the town stealing nothing but people's bananas. Inspector Daria suddenly "reasons" that, because the thief stole everyone's bananas the thief must not have respect for people who like bananas, and because a sentient Banana-Man would naturally like bananas, the thief's objective is absolutely not to use their stolen Bananas to make a sentient Banana-Man. Mackenzie is absolutely bewildered by this. [[spoiler:The irony is that Inspector Daria's logic is also an inverted BatDeduction, as the thief's objective actually ''is'' to make a sentient Banana-Man.]]
* In ''VideoGame/LANoire'', Cole accuses someone of hiding the fact that their friend was raped because when Cole asked her to describe her friend she didn't mention the fact that they were raped. This is made worse by the fact that the player needs to think to do this themselves during this character's interview, something which is highly non-intuitive for more reasons then just the insane nature of the accusation.[[note]]By this point the rape is pure speculation based on rip panties found in the friend's handbag and Cole assuming it to be proof that it did happen is close a BatDeduction. Nevertheless the game is expecting the player to be on the same boat as Cole without any prompting, and thus, is expected to have the rape theory on hand as apparent proof. Combine that with the insane, non-intuitive nature of needing to accuse the character of hiding the rape; and if that isn't enough, add on the fact that the game also throws in a far more decisive and less theory-based incorrect red herring evidence that could very easily also show something that the character is hiding about their friend, and you've got an answer that expects a player to completely abandon all sense of rational logic to understand what the game is expecting them to answer it with. By official game statistics (which are logged by the game's online Social Club) ''close to 99%'' of all first time players get this part incorrect and that figure only drops to just over 90% for players who have already used an in-game "intuition point" to narrow down their answer options. One can only wonder how the developers thought this was a good idea, and moreover, how this mess of a question got past past play-testing.[[/note]]
* In ''VideoGame/LANoire'', Cole accuses someone of hiding the fact that their friend was raped because when Cole asked her to describe her friend she didn't mention the fact that they were raped. This is made worse by the fact that the player needs to think to do this themselves during this character's interview, something which is highly non-intuitive for more reasons then just the insane nature of the accusation.[[note]]By this point the rape is pure speculation based on rip panties found in the friend's handbag and Cole assuming it to be proof that it did happen is close a BatDeduction. Nevertheless the game is expecting the player to be on the same boat as Cole without any prompting, and thus, is expected to have the rape theory on hand as apparent proof. Combine that with the insane, non-intuitive nature of needing to accuse the character of hiding the rape; and if that isn't enough, add on the fact that the game also throws in a far more decisive and less theory-based incorrect red herring evidence that could very easily also show something that the character is hiding about their friend, and you've got an answer that expects a player to completely abandon all sense of rational logic to understand what the game is expecting them to answer it with. By official game statistics (which are logged by the game's online Social Club) ''close to 99%'' of all first time players get this part incorrect and that figure only drops to just over 90% for players who have already used an in-game "intuition point" to narrow down their answer options. One can only wonder how the developers thought this was a good idea, and moreover, how this mess of a question got past past play-testing.[[/note]]
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* In ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'' you would think that [[BigBad Hazama]], [[MadScientist Kokonoe]], [[KnightTemplar Jin Kisaragi]], or even [[TheDragon Relius Clover]] could be capable of this it's really [[GoneHorriblyWrong Lotte Carmine]] and [[AndIMustScream Ada Clover]] (the latter to a small extent).
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* In ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'' you would think that [[BigBad Hazama]], [[MadScientist Kokonoe]], [[KnightTemplar Jin Kisaragi]], or even [[TheDragon Relius Clover]] could be capable of this it's really [[GoneHorriblyWrong Lotte Carmine]] (who admittedly actually is insane) and [[AndIMustScream Ada Clover]] (the latter to a small extent).
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* In ''VideoGame/LANoire'', Cole accuses someone of hiding the fact that their friend was raped because when Cole asked her to describe her friend she didn't mention the fact that they were raped. This is made worse by the fact that the player needs to think to do this themselves during this character's interview, something which is highly non-intuitive for more reasons then just the insane nature of the accusation.[[note]]By this point the rape is pure speculation based on rip panties found in the friend's handbag and Cole assuming it to be proof that it did happen is close a BatDeduction. Nevertheless the game is expecting the player to be on the same boat as Cole without any prompting, and thus, is expected to have the rape theory on hand as apparent proof. Combine that with the insane, non-intuitive nature of needing to accuse the character of hiding the rape; and if that isn't enough, add on the fact that the game also throws in a far more decisive and less theory-based incorrect red herring evidence that could very easily also show something that the character is hiding about their friend, and you've got an answer that expects a player to completely abandon all sense of rational logic to understand what the game is expecting them to answer it with. By official game statistics (which are logged by the game's online Social Club) ''close to 99%'' of all first time players get this part incorrect and that figure only drops to just over 90% for players who have already used an in-game "intuition point" to narrow down their answer options. One can only wonder how the developers thought this was a good idea, and moreover, how this mess of a question got past past play-testing.[[/note]]
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* In ''[[VideoGame/TouchDetective Touch Detective 3]]'', Inspector Daria and Mackenzie are both stumped as to why someone has been going around the town stealing nothing but people's bananas. Inspector Daria suddenly "reasons" that, because the thief stole everyone's bananas the thief must not have respect for people who like bananas, and because a sentient Banana-Man would naturally like bananas, the thief's objective is absolutely not to use their stolen Bananas to make a sentient Banana-Man. Mackenzie is absolutely bewildered by this. [[spoiler:The irony is that Inspector Daria's logic is also an inverted BatDeduction, as the thief's objective actually ''is'' to make a sentient Banana-Man.]]
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* In ''[[VideoGame/TouchDetective Touch Dective 3]]'', Inspector Daria and Mackenzie are both stumped as to why someone has been going around the town stealing nothing but people's bananas. Inspector Daria suddenly "reasons" that, because the thief stole everyone's bananas the thief must not have respect for people who like bananas, and because a sentient Banana-Man would naturally like bananas, the thief's objective is absolutely not to use their stolen Bananas to make a sentient Banana-Man. Mackenzie is absolutely bewildered by this. [[spoiler:The irony is that Inspector Daria's logic is also an inverted BatDeduction, as the thief's objective actually ''is'' to make a sentient Banana-Man.]]
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* In ''[[VideoGame/TouchDetective Touch Dective Detective 3]]'', Inspector Daria and Mackenzie are both stumped as to why someone has been going around the town stealing nothing but people's bananas. Inspector Daria suddenly "reasons" that, because the thief stole everyone's bananas the thief must not have respect for people who like bananas, and because a sentient Banana-Man would naturally like bananas, the thief's objective is absolutely not to use their stolen Bananas to make a sentient Banana-Man. Mackenzie is absolutely bewildered by this. [[spoiler:The irony is that Inspector Daria's logic is also an inverted BatDeduction, as the thief's objective actually ''is'' to make a sentient Banana-Man.]]
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* In ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsBirthBySleep'', GreaterScopeVillain Master Xehanort wants to bring full-on [[BalanceBetweenGoodAndEvil Balance Between Light and Darkness]] to all Worlds. So throughout the series (both directly and via proxies), he performs countless BlackMagic experiments and ComplexityAddiction-y schemes that clearly benefit only the Realm of Darkness while simultaneously harming the Realm of Light. Never mind the fact that said Worlds, being in the Realm of Light, are naturally Light-leaning anyway.
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* In ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsBirthBySleep'', GreaterScopeVillain Master Xehanort wants to bring full-on [[BalanceBetweenGoodAndEvil Balance Between Light and Darkness]] to all Worlds. So throughout the series (both directly and via proxies), by proxy), he performs countless BlackMagic experiments and ComplexityAddiction-y ComplexityAddiction schemes that clearly benefit only the Realm of Darkness while simultaneously harming the Realm of Light. Never mind the fact that said Worlds, being in the Realm of Light, are naturally Light-leaning anyway.
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* ''VideoGame/SamAndMaxHitTheRoad'' wouldn't be a '90s puzzle-adventure game without a few moments of this, such as:
** Combining a severed hand, a broken golf ball retriever, and a fridge magnet to create a device to extract a mood ring from the world's largest ball of twine;
** Using a wrench to loosen a giant ceramic fish so that you can crawl into it and be mistaken for a real fish by a fisherman literally five feet away from you who saw you do all of this, so that you can be stolen from his pile of caught fish by a helicopter pilot who ALSO mistakes your giant fake fish for a real fish, so that you can be dropped onto (sigh) ''the same goddamn giant ball of twine'' in order to snip 91 yards of twine off of it.
** Combining a severed hand, a broken golf ball retriever, and a fridge magnet to create a device to extract a mood ring from the world's largest ball of twine;
** Using a wrench to loosen a giant ceramic fish so that you can crawl into it and be mistaken for a real fish by a fisherman literally five feet away from you who saw you do all of this, so that you can be stolen from his pile of caught fish by a helicopter pilot who ALSO mistakes your giant fake fish for a real fish, so that you can be dropped onto (sigh) ''the same goddamn giant ball of twine'' in order to snip 91 yards of twine off of it.
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* ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'' has a rather jarring one. Garrosh Hellscream deliberately infests his men with the [[EldritchAbomination Sha]] in the belief that they'll somehow conquer the Sha and become stronger. When all of them succumb including his champion, he tells Anduin Wrynn (who had been trying to convince him what a bad idea it was) that [[NeverMyFault he cost Garrosh a mighty warrior]] and [[spoiler:almost]] kills him. [[spoiler:Granted, he turns out to have some more successful attempts later, including his own [[TheDragon right-hand man]], Malkorok, and he himself ends up wielding the power of the Heart of Y'Shaarj itself.]]
** Also there is the concentration camp in Hilssbrad Foothills. The guy who runs it is completely crazy and thinks that humans are plants. Despite actually being a human himself (an undead one, but still definitely a human). He's got a bunch of humans "planted" up to their necks in goodness-only-knows what sort of soil. You have the choice to either kill them or dig them up, before taking out the wackjob in charge. He also thinks that his flesh golem is definitely invincible even though he also says moments earlier that flesh is disgustingly weak. Of course, this might have something to do with the [[EldritchAbomination Old God]] that is revealed many expansions later to be nearby.
** Also there is the concentration camp in Hilssbrad Foothills. The guy who runs it is completely crazy and thinks that humans are plants. Despite actually being a human himself (an undead one, but still definitely a human). He's got a bunch of humans "planted" up to their necks in goodness-only-knows what sort of soil. You have the choice to either kill them or dig them up, before taking out the wackjob in charge. He also thinks that his flesh golem is definitely invincible even though he also says moments earlier that flesh is disgustingly weak. Of course, this might have something to do with the [[EldritchAbomination Old God]] that is revealed many expansions later to be nearby.
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* In ''VideoGame/DungeonMunchies'', the extremely talented necromancer Simmer became interested and equally skilled in cooking upon realizing the similarities between the two disciplines. In her words, you're taking something that's dead, taking parts of it, then infusing it with hellfire and magic to create something new and useful.
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* The St. John family in ''VideoGame/TheWalkingDead'' are revealed to be [[spoiler: cannibals. When Lee discovers Mark and his missing legs, he confronts the family about it. Their response? The walkers do nothing but eat everything, so it's up to humans to make sure things do not go to waste by eating people themselves when they die. The problem with that logic is Mark was previously shot in the shoulder with an arrow and was in no danger of dying at all. Before Lee or his group can question the family further, they take Lee's group as hostages.]]
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* The St. John family in ''VideoGame/TheWalkingDead'' are revealed to be [[spoiler: cannibals. When Lee discovers Mark and his missing legs, he confronts the family about it. Their response? The walkers do nothing but eat everything, so it's up to humans to make sure things do not go to waste by eating people themselves when they die. The problem with that logic is Mark was previously shot in the shoulder with an arrow and was in no danger of dying at all.all, and they had to butcher him alive because zombie meat is poison. Before Lee or his group can question the family further, they take Lee's group as hostages.]]
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* In ''[[VideoGame/TouchDetective Touch Dective 3]]'', Inspector Daria and Mackenzie are both stumped as to why someone has been going around the town stealing nothing but people's bananas. Inspector Daria suddenly "reasons" that, because the thief stole everyone's bananas the thief must not have respect for people who like bananas, and because a sentient Banana-Man would naturally like bananas, the thief's objective is absolutely not to use their stolen Bananas to make a sentient Banana-Man. Mackenzie is absolutely bewildered by this. [[spoiler:The irony is that Inspector Daria's logic is also an inverted BatDeduction, as the thief's objective actually ''is'' to make a sentient Banana-Man.]]
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* In ''VideoGame/LANoire'', Cole accuses someone of hiding the fact that their friend was raped because when Cole asked her to describe her friend she didn't mention the fact that they were raped. This is made worse by the fact that the player needs to think to do this themselves during this character's interview, something which is highly non-intuitive for more reasons then just the insane nature of the accusation.[[note]]By this point the rape is pure speculation based on rip panties found in the friend's handbag and Cole assuming it to be proof that it did happen is close a BatDeduction. Nevertheless the game is expecting the player to be on the same boat as Cole without any prompting, and thus, is expected to have the rape theory on hand as apparent proof. By official game statistics (which are logged by the game's online Social Club) ''close to 99%'' of all first time players get this part incorrect and that figure only drops to just over 90% for players who have already used an in-game "intuition point" to narrow down their answer options.[[/note]]
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* In ''VideoGame/LANoire'', Cole accuses someone of hiding the fact that their friend was raped because when Cole asked her to describe her friend she didn't mention the fact that they were raped. This is made worse by the fact that the player needs to think to do this themselves during this character's interview, something which is highly non-intuitive for more reasons then just the insane nature of the accusation.[[note]]By this point the rape is pure speculation based on rip panties found in the friend's handbag and Cole assuming it to be proof that it did happen is close a BatDeduction. Nevertheless the game is expecting the player to be on the same boat as Cole without any prompting, and thus, is expected to have the rape theory on hand as apparent proof. Combine that with the insane, non-intuitive nature of needing to accuse the character of hiding the rape; and if that isn't enough, add on the fact that the game also throws in a far more decisive and less theory-based incorrect red herring evidence that could very easily also show something that the character is hiding about their friend, and you've got an answer that expects a player to completely abandon all sense of rational logic to understand what the game is expecting them to answer it with. By official game statistics (which are logged by the game's online Social Club) ''close to 99%'' of all first time players get this part incorrect and that figure only drops to just over 90% for players who have already used an in-game "intuition point" to narrow down their answer options. One can only wonder how the developers thought this was a good idea, and moreover, how this mess of a question got past past play-testing.[[/note]]
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** Although animals and humans are capable of communicating with each other in the ghost world, their knowledge about the world is vastly different, resulting in Missile drawing this absurd conclusion. Justified as it turns out that [[spoiler:Sissel was a cat all along who mistakenly assumed a human identity]].
** Although animals and humans are capable of communicating with each other in the ghost world, their knowledge about the world is vastly different, resulting in Missile drawing this absurd conclusion. Justified as it turns out that [[spoiler:Sissel was a cat all along who mistakenly assumed a human identity]].
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* Early on in ''VideoGame/GhostTrick'', Sissel discovers that the ghost of the recently deceased dog Missile has tagged along with him into the past to prevent his death. Missile doesn't bat an eye at such a feat, reasoning that if his master can walk on two feet and he can't, he shouldn't find it weird that Sissel can walk through time and he can't. The worst part? ''Sissel agrees with his line of reasoning.''
**Although animals and humans are capable of communicating with each other in the ghost world, their knowledge about the world is vastly different, resulting in Missile drawing expressing thought patterns that seem like this absurd conclusion. Justified as it turns out that [[spoiler:Sissel was a cat all along who mistakenly assumed a human identity]].to us but are actually [[SubvertedTrope standard or even times clever thinking by the standards of an animal]].
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InsaneTrollLogic in video games.
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* A major part of the flash game ''[[http://argumentchampion.com/ Argument Champion]]'' consists of intertwining arbitrarily chosen audience likes and dislikes with equally arbitrary concepts, often relying on a word with two or more definitions. For example, you can construct a "logical" chain connecting REBELLION to CEILING. Of course, shorter chains that rely on less ChewbaccaDefense reasoning get you more impressive opinion swings, but usually you'll find at least one.
* In ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedFreedomCry'', French Governor de Fayet comments that former slave Adewale's [[spoiler:murder of him]] is because the latter was from freed from slavery. This, while ''technically'' true, doesn't take into account that Adewale is trying to murder him ''because'' of all the abuses he endured as a slave. [[spoiler:Not to mention the Governor having just murdered an entire ship full of slaves.]]
* In ''VideoGame/AwfulFantasy'', an infamous 2002 romhack of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI'' by Website/SomethingAwful Goons, there is the following piece of Insane Troll Logic, which makes about as much sense as the rest of the hack: "Ice cream, eyebeams -- [[ComicBook/XMen cyclops]]. One. One means death! AL IS GOING TO KILL EVERYONE!"
* ''VideoGame/BaldursGateII'' has some of this logic coming from an actual [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin insane]] [[AllTrollsAreDifferent troll]]. Here's the conversation if you try to keep a dialogue going as long as possible instead of attacking him right after he says:
-->'''Troll Cook''': Hello there foodthing. You are just in time. Please just jump onto the grill over there.\\
'''[[HelloInsertNameHere Protagonist]]''': Pardon me?\\
'''Troll Cook''': The grill. That big metal thing. Jump on. Be careful, it's hot!\\
'''Protagonist''': [[LampshadeHanging You speak well for a troll]].\\
'''Troll Cook''': [[HandWave My mother tried hard to]] [[HypocriticalHumor give me good learning]]. She sent me to live with these hobgoblins here. They smart. Trained me how to cook real good.\\
'''Protagonist''': Do you like these orcs?\\
'''Troll Cook''': They smell bad, but they're okay. They can be mean sometimes. Chief [=DigDag=] sometimes [[KickTheDog cuts my fingers off and throws them onto the grill]]. Says they taste like sausages.\\
'''Protagonist''': Doesn't that hurt?\\
'''Troll Cook''': Yep. But I'm a troll. Fingers cut off. [[HealingFactor Fingers grow back]]. Now quit talking and start broiling! Chief [=DigDag=] doesn't like me talking to the food.\\
'''Protagonist''': I'm not letting you cook me, you crazy troll!\\
'''Troll Cook''': Uncle Cajum, he was crazy. Me, I'm not crazy. I'm a cook. Now get on the grill!\\
'''Protagonist''': Why would I want to be on the grill?\\
'''Troll Cook''': Geez. It's impossible to get good help nowadays. If you're not on the grill, how am I going to cook you?\\
'''Protagonist''': I don't want to be cooked.\\
'''Troll Cook''': If you didn't want to be cooked, then why did you apply for the job? I think you'll all make a tasty snack! Boys! Get 'em!
* Used tragically in the climactic fight between Batman and the BigBad in ''VideoGame/BatmanTheTelltaleSeries'', should Batman decide to reveal his identity [[spoiler: to keep Alfred safe]]. The only way [[WellIntentionedExtremist the villain]] can reconcile the truth of Batman - [[BrokenPedestal an admitted role model of theirs]] - being Bruce Wayne is by framing it as Bruce [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation simply looking to prey on the weak]].
* In ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'' you would think that [[BigBad Hazama]], [[MadScientist Kokonoe]], [[KnightTemplar Jin Kisaragi]], or even [[TheDragon Relius Clover]] could be capable of this it's really [[GoneHorriblyWrong Lotte Carmine]] and [[AndIMustScream Ada Clover]] (the latter to a small extent).
* A loading screen in ''VideoGame/BorderlandsThePreSequel'' declares that Pangolin-manufactured shields must have the highest capacity because the Pangolin company only makes shields and thus 'must have more shield to fit into every shield'.
-->'''Loading screen:''' [[LampshadeHanging BAM! Logic!]]
* In the text intro to Chapter 74 of ''Caribbean Hideaway'', Barley the pirate explains why a certain hideout is rather unimaginatively known as "The Cave".
-->'''Barley:''' Places with names tend t' get found. If it ain't got a name, it ain't a place; and if it ain't a place, it ain't gonna be found, ain't it?
* One of the Soviet missions in ''VideoGame/CommandAndConquerRedAlert'' would end in failure if you actually completed your mission objectives. Only by deliberately losing in an oddly specific way could you progress through the campaign (also an example of GuideDangIt).
* ''VideoGame/DaiGyakutenSaiban'' features the great detective himself, Sherlock Holmes, whose thinking is often flawed. Naruhodo often has to correct his reasoning, which can border on the absurd.
* In ''VideoGame/DawnOfWar'' EvilSorcerer Syndri kills a hapless cultist who brought the news of the advancing SpaceMarine army, explaining that the cultists was "stupid enough to personally deliver bad news to [[BigBad Lord Bale]] and we cannot abide stupidity". By that logic, had his desire been fulfilled and there had been no stupid cultist in their band, they would not have gotten the news at all and the Space Marines would've caught them off-guard. Of course, that's Chaos for you.
* In ''VideoGame/{{Disgaea 4|A Promise Unforgotten}}'', Fuka gives some pretty interesting arguments on why she's not actually dead:
-->'''Fuka:''' Even if I were dead, I'd be sent to heaven, not hell or whatever you call this place. I didn't do anything wrong to deserve this. Why would a ninth grader die anyway? If this isn't heaven, then it can't be real. If this isn't real, it must be a dream. How's that!? It's a flawless theory!\\
'''[[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} Valvatorez]]:''' You're right! It's airtight!
** Then again, it's a Disgaea game, which tends to be ''full'' of this.
* Anti-Mage, from ''VideoGame/{{DOTA 2}}'' who is entirely based around... well, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin being good against mages]], was an acolyte in a monastery in which the monks living within were killed by [[OurZombiesAreDifferent a legion of the undead.]] Anti-Mage's reaction? Not to declare war on the undead, but on [[UpToEleven all magic and every mage in the world]]. One wouldn't even know about his grudge against the undead if it weren't for [[GameplayAndStorySegregation a single offhanded line he says when killing the only Zombie-based hero in the game.]]
%%* ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII'': Sarcastic Hawke's logic definitely falls under this category sometimes.
* In ''VideoGame/DwarfFortress'', it's possible for you to convict a crime victim of the very crime committed upon them -- for example, convicting the dwarf who has had his blood drained of draining his own blood. Your dwarves will actually be 'outraged at the bizarre conviction against all reason of the victim of a crime recently.' When you start looking among the world's events, you seriously have to question certain deities' reasons for [[spoiler:letting a demon out of hell]]. Sure, the more evil gods of misery and blood might just want some more of it, gods of valor might want heroes to have something to destroy, but just about ANY god can do this for reasons concerning ANY part of their sphere, be it youth, knowledge, or ''rainbows''. It's been documented at least one god did this after pondering the ineffable subtleties of ''fish''. Perhaps the gods have their own AnimalWrongsGroup up there...
* ''VideoGame/ExitFate'''s Father Luther explains [[http://i.imgur.com/cYULS.png how to spot a vampire]]:
-->All vampires play the organ! And if all vampires play the organ, then one who plays the organ is most likely a vampire!
* In ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII'':
** The fal'Cie are JerkassGods (well not actual gods but close to it) who run on BlueAndOrangeMorality, but in practice their methods are this trope. Fal'cie brand humans with mystical markings, turning them into l'Cie, servants that are bound to complete an objective, called a Focus. However, the Focus is usually only conveyed via vague visions and hallucinations, the fal'Cie sometimes state clearly what the Focus is but not always, leaving it to the l'Cie to guess what their Focus is. Completing the Focus comes with a time limit, fail and you turn into a zombie-like Cie'th. Succeed and your reward is immortality...as a crystal statue, until someday the fal'Cie has need of you again and revives you with a new Focus, with all the same restrictions as before.
** Even more troll logic can be seen in Balthandier's plan in the final chapter. Not that it stops the heros from [[NiceJobBreakingItHero going along with it anyway]]. [[spoiler:The fal'Cie want to be reunited with their god. In order to do that a MASSIVE number of humans need to die, as in all of Cocoon. The fal'Cie power Cocoon, and so if they were to die then Cocoon would fall to Pulse, killing all the humans and bringing the gods back to the world. The problem? They cannot self destruct, and no human can harm them, so they create l'Cie to kill them. Okay so far... but then he tells the heros the plan to die at their hands thus killing all humans. Being heros they refuse, so enter the troll logic. If they don't do it then he'll manipulate the human military to do it instead. WAIT A MINUTE! You just told us humans can't hurt you and only we can. What will that accomplish? No matter, we now must stop you from manipulating the human military by killing you! What do you mean it was your plan all along to make us kill you and we just said we wouldn't? YOU HAVE TO BE STOPPED!]]
* ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'' has this from Cervantes:
-->'''Cervantes:''' I've not shaved since my very first battle. And have I ever lost? No! Not even once! Ergo, my moustache makes me invincible. It's science, my boy, science!
* Early on in ''VideoGame/GhostTrick'', Sissel discovers that the ghost of the recently deceased dog Missile has tagged along with him into the past to prevent his death. Missile doesn't bat an eye at such a feat, reasoning that if his master can walk on two feet and he can't, he shouldn't find it weird that Sissel can walk through time and he can't. The worst part? ''Sissel agrees with his line of reasoning.''
** Although animals and humans are capable of communicating with each other in the ghost world, their knowledge about the world is vastly different, resulting in Missile drawing this absurd conclusion. Justified as it turns out that [[spoiler:Sissel was a cat all along who mistakenly assumed a human identity]].
* ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoV'' allows you to start a fight with someone and then call the police on them - and if they are armed it will result in them getting shot. You can use this to rob Ammunation and assist you in Gang Attacks, to name a couplee.
* In ''VideoGame/HyperdimensionNeptuniaV'', Noire has this hilarious reason as to why Plutia should transform into [[{{Dominatrix}} Iris Heart.]] Take note, this is ''how'' the dialogue was said.
-->'''Noire:''' (Noire Logic) Plutia HDD -> we win -> Planeptune citizens see Sadie -> freak -> Lastation wins!
* ''Videogame/TheImpossibleQuiz'' has a bucketload of this. Half the questions run on insane troll logic, the other half run on [[LuckBasedMission no logic at all]] and must simply be solved through [[TrialAndErrorGameplay trial and error]].
* ''Videogame/JablessAdventure''. Jables and Squiddy plumb the depths of the CardCarryingVillain's depravity:
-->'''Jables:''' I had no idea there was a villain.\\
'''Squiddy:''' I bet he's the one who kidnapped [[EverythingsBetterWithPrincesses the princess]].\\
'''Jables:''' Let her go, King Squid!\\
'''King Squid:''' I didn't kidnap any princess.\\
'''Squiddy:''' Then where is she?\\
'''King Squid:''' My plan doesn't involve the princess.\\
'''Squiddy:''' Yet you kidnapped her anyway.\\
'''Jables:''' That's evil.\\
'''King Squid:''' [[VisibleSilence ...]]
* ''VideoGame/JoJosBizarreAdventureAllStarBattle'': Josuke Higashikata's stand, Crazy Diamond, is able to return people and items to a previous state. For his level-2 LimitBreak, he heals his opponent back to full health, reasoning that it would make for a fair fight, then proceeds to use Crazy Diamond to [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown pummel the opponent like a punching bag]].
* ''VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising'': One of [[spoiler:Hades']] many uses of insane troll logic is to twist Pit [[spoiler:saying how he doesn't want to get out of the WombLevel 'the old fashioned way']] into meaning ''Pit hates life''.
-->[[spoiler:'''Hades:''' Unfortunately for you, there's only [[ToiletHumour one way out!]]]]\\
[[spoiler:'''Pit:''' [[BigNo NOOOO no no no]] please don't do that!]]\\
[[spoiler:'''Hades:''' Obeying the call of nature is part of the cycle of life. Tell me, Pit, why do you hate life?]]
* In ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsBirthBySleep'', GreaterScopeVillain Master Xehanort wants to bring full-on [[BalanceBetweenGoodAndEvil Balance Between Light and Darkness]] to all Worlds. So throughout the series (both directly and via proxies), he performs countless BlackMagic experiments and ComplexityAddiction-y schemes that clearly benefit only the Realm of Darkness while simultaneously harming the Realm of Light. Never mind the fact that said Worlds, being in the Realm of Light, are naturally Light-leaning anyway.
* The description of the [[MaskOfPower Stone Mask]] in the 3DS remake of ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMask'' is this. Putting on the mask allows [[KidHero Link]] to become [[LiteralMetaphor as plain as a stone]], so, the game reasons, since nobody pays attention to stones, [[HiddenInPlainSight you're practically invisible]].
* In ''VideoGame/LufiaCurseOfTheSinistrals'', Dekar had the ''[[IdiotHero brilliant]]'' idea of sewing his coat to ''his own shirt'', just so he could take both of them off at the same time. Even better, he doesn't remember this until ''after'' [[YouMustBeCold he offers his coat to Tia when they're on a cold mountain]].
* In ''Franchise/MassEffect'':
** A [[SociopathicHero Renegade]] [[PlayerCharacter Shepard]] can say:
--->'''Shepard:''' You refused to testify. Obviously you hate justice and deserve this.\\
'''Lorik Qi'in:''' [[LampshadeHanging What insane breed of logic is that?!]]
** "[[{{Jerkass}} Hey everyone!]] [[MemeticMutation This store discriminates against the poor]]!
** An indoctrinated Hanar reasons that if his race worships the Protheans and [[spoiler:the remaining Protheans were converted into the Reapers' slaves]], the Hanar must worship the Reapers. Shepard might refer to this as "insane [[FantasticRacism jellyfish]]" logic.
--->'''Shepard''': YouHaveGOTToBeKiddingMe!\\
'''Hanar''': Therefore, as a faithful servant of the Enkindlers, we too must serve the Reapers.\\
'''Shepard''': [[PunctuatedForEmphasis You. Big. Stupid. Jellyfish!]]\\
'''Kasumi''': You know, I support religious freedom for all species, but that's just crazy.
** Ka'hairal Balak blames Shepard for the downfall of the batarians, because [[spoiler:by stopping him at Terra Nova Shepard "forced" the Hegemony to accelerate research efforts on a Reaper corpse, therefore creating more indoctrinated batarians to sabotage Khar'shan when the Reapers came.]]
%%Yes, the Catalyst has some weird logic to its motivations, but there is a sense of actual logic to its reasoning, instead of the intentional, deliberate parody of logic that makes up this trope. Take it to BlueAndOrangeMorality or one of the fallacies listed under LogicalFallacies.
* Many puzzles in ''VideoGame/{{McPixel}}'' require this to succeed. To put things in perspective, the first rule of playing this game is this: If the solution you have in mind makes sense, there's a 75% chance it's wrong. The remaining 25%? It works, but not in the way you were expecting it to. Although after a couple levels it's almost second nature.
* The game ''VideoGame/MetalWolfChaos'' features propaganda news reports that define a [[NoTrueScotsman True American]] as "anyone who supports the idea of having the families and friends of terrorist sympathizers murdered in the streets" rather than "anyone who is a citizen of America".
* In ''VideoGame/{{Persona 4}}'', the true killer claims that he didn't kill the victims, he only threw them into the TV world, which then was responsible for their deaths. This despite it being pointed out that he knew what would happen to Saki Konishi after Mayumi Yamano died in the TV world. Also, noting that the world is influenced by people's thoughts, suggests that everyone outside, including the investigation team, is responsible, presumably saying this as a way of playing mind games with them.
* ''VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite'':
** The AnimalWrongsGroup, Team Plasma. Especially the [[FacelessGoons grunts]] and their tendency to [[BlatantLies explain themselves]] along the lines of 'we're abusing this Pokemon to help it!'
** One of the Team Plasma members in Chargestone Cave has this line to offer after she is defeated: "[[MoralMyopia It's bad for ordinary Trainers like you to use Pokémon. It's good for us members of Team Plasma to use Pokémon!]]"
* ''VideoGame/ResidentEvil6'': [[spoiler:Simmons']] idea of preventing a disaster that ''might'' have happened should the President make the truth behind the Raccoon City Incident public was to cause an ''actual'' disaster by infecting the entire city of Tall Oaks with the C-Virus, including the President himself, and then nuking it to cover his tracks. Leon and Helena even [[LampshadeHanging lampshade this]].
* The Narrator from ''Videogame/TheStanleyParable'' uses this in the Confusion Ending to choose which of two doors to go through [[note]]Both doors lead to the same room.[[/note]] ;
-->'''The Narrator:''' Okay, so I know that each door has to lead somewhere, which means that somewhere, the place where we're trying to go, there must be a reverse door that leads here, and that, in turn, means that our destination corresponds with that counterinverted reverse door's origin, so, starting from the right, let us ask: "Will taking the right door lead us to where we're going?" And since the answer is clearly "yes", then by all accounts, the door on the right is the correct one. Another victory for logic.
* The [[LovableCoward Spathi]] from ''[[VideoGame/StarControl Star Control 2]]'' use this to justify their fear of an "Ultimate Evil" that surely intends to destroy them. They have never found any evidence that such an evil exists, which means that it must be hiding just outside the range of their most powerful sensors, which is proof of its nefarious intent.
** It should be noted that when they figure out how to open and close the slaver system-isolating forcefields [[spoiler:the Spathi break their alliance and put a shield around their own planet to be safely shut off from the rest of the universe]].
* Early in ''VideoGame/SuikodenV'' there is a tournament to decide who will get to marry the Prince's sister. One group of people decide it's their patriotic duty to get a foreign competitor kicked out of the tournament. They do this by picking a fight with him so he will get disqualified when he ''kills them.'' When the Prince tries to stop them they figure that the ''real'' Prince would never try to stop such obviously patriotic people, therefore the Prince must be an impostor!
** Later on, Queen's Knight [[AxeCrazy Childerich]] slaughters a group of innocent civilians in a town his army had liberated from [[TheHero The Prince]]. The reason? They didn't try to stop the Prince from fleeing the city and so that made them "traitors" to the Crown.
* Fizzie from ''VideoGame/SunsetOverdrive'' employs this trope when trying to convince people to drink [[MayContainEvil the soft drink Overcharge.]] At one point, he advises the PlayerCharacter to drink Overcharge while they're climbing a building because climbers need oxygen, Overcharge has carbon dioxide, and dioxide is twice the oxygen!
* In ''VideoGame/{{Tropico}} 4'', this is Sunny Flowers' reasoning behind wanting El Presidente to demolish all newspapers: "Did you know that paper is made from trees? Trees are your friends. Do you want to read the news on the corpses of your friends?"
* [[spoiler:Alicia's]] breakdown in ''VideoGame/ValkyriaChronicles'' is basically this trope getting out of hand in the mind of one person. She decides she is an inhuman monster, and ultimately tries to kill herself. The girl she used to be is dead, and she can never live a normal life again because her only future is one as a killing machine, exploited for her powers. [[CursedWithAwesome None of this is even slightly true.]]
* The St. John family in ''VideoGame/TheWalkingDead'' are revealed to be [[spoiler: cannibals. When Lee discovers Mark and his missing legs, he confronts the family about it. Their response? The walkers do nothing but eat everything, so it's up to humans to make sure things do not go to waste by eating people themselves when they die. The problem with that logic is Mark was previously shot in the shoulder with an arrow and was in no danger of dying at all. Before Lee or his group can question the family further, they take Lee's group as hostages.]]
* ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'' has a rather jarring one. Garrosh Hellscream deliberately infests his men with the [[EldritchAbomination Sha]] in the belief that they'll somehow conquer the Sha and become stronger. When all of them succumb including his champion, he tells Anduin Wrynn (who had been trying to convince him what a bad idea it was) that [[NeverMyFault he cost Garrosh a mighty warrior]] and [[spoiler:almost]] kills him. [[spoiler:Granted, he turns out to have some more successful attempts later, including his own [[TheDragon right-hand man]], Malkorok, and he himself ends up wielding the power of the Heart of Y'Shaarj itself.]]
** Also there is the concentration camp in Hilssbrad Foothills. The guy who runs it is completely crazy and thinks that humans are plants. Despite actually being a human himself (an undead one, but still definitely a human). He's got a bunch of humans "planted" up to their necks in goodness-only-knows what sort of soil. You have the choice to either kill them or dig them up, before taking out the wackjob in charge. He also thinks that his flesh golem is definitely invincible even though he also says moments earlier that flesh is disgustingly weak. Of course, this might have something to do with the [[EldritchAbomination Old God]] that is revealed many expansions later to be nearby.
* The Corwids of ''VideoGame/ZenoClash'' are [[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} all a bit nuts]], but among the maddest is Helim, who decided he wanted to be invisible. So he started [[AxeCrazy plucking out the eyes of every creature that could see him]].
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InsaneTrollLogic in video games.
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* A major part of the flash game ''[[http://argumentchampion.com/ Argument Champion]]'' consists of intertwining arbitrarily chosen audience likes and dislikes with equally arbitrary concepts, often relying on a word with two or more definitions. For example, you can construct a "logical" chain connecting REBELLION to CEILING. Of course, shorter chains that rely on less ChewbaccaDefense reasoning get you more impressive opinion swings, but usually you'll find at least one.
* In ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedFreedomCry'', French Governor de Fayet comments that former slave Adewale's [[spoiler:murder of him]] is because the latter was from freed from slavery. This, while ''technically'' true, doesn't take into account that Adewale is trying to murder him ''because'' of all the abuses he endured as a slave. [[spoiler:Not to mention the Governor having just murdered an entire ship full of slaves.]]
* In ''VideoGame/AwfulFantasy'', an infamous 2002 romhack of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI'' by Website/SomethingAwful Goons, there is the following piece of Insane Troll Logic, which makes about as much sense as the rest of the hack: "Ice cream, eyebeams -- [[ComicBook/XMen cyclops]]. One. One means death! AL IS GOING TO KILL EVERYONE!"
* ''VideoGame/BaldursGateII'' has some of this logic coming from an actual [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin insane]] [[AllTrollsAreDifferent troll]]. Here's the conversation if you try to keep a dialogue going as long as possible instead of attacking him right after he says:
-->'''Troll Cook''': Hello there foodthing. You are just in time. Please just jump onto the grill over there.\\
'''[[HelloInsertNameHere Protagonist]]''': Pardon me?\\
'''Troll Cook''': The grill. That big metal thing. Jump on. Be careful, it's hot!\\
'''Protagonist''': [[LampshadeHanging You speak well for a troll]].\\
'''Troll Cook''': [[HandWave My mother tried hard to]] [[HypocriticalHumor give me good learning]]. She sent me to live with these hobgoblins here. They smart. Trained me how to cook real good.\\
'''Protagonist''': Do you like these orcs?\\
'''Troll Cook''': They smell bad, but they're okay. They can be mean sometimes. Chief [=DigDag=] sometimes [[KickTheDog cuts my fingers off and throws them onto the grill]]. Says they taste like sausages.\\
'''Protagonist''': Doesn't that hurt?\\
'''Troll Cook''': Yep. But I'm a troll. Fingers cut off. [[HealingFactor Fingers grow back]]. Now quit talking and start broiling! Chief [=DigDag=] doesn't like me talking to the food.\\
'''Protagonist''': I'm not letting you cook me, you crazy troll!\\
'''Troll Cook''': Uncle Cajum, he was crazy. Me, I'm not crazy. I'm a cook. Now get on the grill!\\
'''Protagonist''': Why would I want to be on the grill?\\
'''Troll Cook''': Geez. It's impossible to get good help nowadays. If you're not on the grill, how am I going to cook you?\\
'''Protagonist''': I don't want to be cooked.\\
'''Troll Cook''': If you didn't want to be cooked, then why did you apply for the job? I think you'll all make a tasty snack! Boys! Get 'em!
* Used tragically in the climactic fight between Batman and the BigBad in ''VideoGame/BatmanTheTelltaleSeries'', should Batman decide to reveal his identity [[spoiler: to keep Alfred safe]]. The only way [[WellIntentionedExtremist the villain]] can reconcile the truth of Batman - [[BrokenPedestal an admitted role model of theirs]] - being Bruce Wayne is by framing it as Bruce [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation simply looking to prey on the weak]].
* In ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'' you would think that [[BigBad Hazama]], [[MadScientist Kokonoe]], [[KnightTemplar Jin Kisaragi]], or even [[TheDragon Relius Clover]] could be capable of this it's really [[GoneHorriblyWrong Lotte Carmine]] and [[AndIMustScream Ada Clover]] (the latter to a small extent).
* A loading screen in ''VideoGame/BorderlandsThePreSequel'' declares that Pangolin-manufactured shields must have the highest capacity because the Pangolin company only makes shields and thus 'must have more shield to fit into every shield'.
-->'''Loading screen:''' [[LampshadeHanging BAM! Logic!]]
* In the text intro to Chapter 74 of ''Caribbean Hideaway'', Barley the pirate explains why a certain hideout is rather unimaginatively known as "The Cave".
-->'''Barley:''' Places with names tend t' get found. If it ain't got a name, it ain't a place; and if it ain't a place, it ain't gonna be found, ain't it?
* One of the Soviet missions in ''VideoGame/CommandAndConquerRedAlert'' would end in failure if you actually completed your mission objectives. Only by deliberately losing in an oddly specific way could you progress through the campaign (also an example of GuideDangIt).
* ''VideoGame/DaiGyakutenSaiban'' features the great detective himself, Sherlock Holmes, whose thinking is often flawed. Naruhodo often has to correct his reasoning, which can border on the absurd.
* In ''VideoGame/DawnOfWar'' EvilSorcerer Syndri kills a hapless cultist who brought the news of the advancing SpaceMarine army, explaining that the cultists was "stupid enough to personally deliver bad news to [[BigBad Lord Bale]] and we cannot abide stupidity". By that logic, had his desire been fulfilled and there had been no stupid cultist in their band, they would not have gotten the news at all and the Space Marines would've caught them off-guard. Of course, that's Chaos for you.
* In ''VideoGame/{{Disgaea 4|A Promise Unforgotten}}'', Fuka gives some pretty interesting arguments on why she's not actually dead:
-->'''Fuka:''' Even if I were dead, I'd be sent to heaven, not hell or whatever you call this place. I didn't do anything wrong to deserve this. Why would a ninth grader die anyway? If this isn't heaven, then it can't be real. If this isn't real, it must be a dream. How's that!? It's a flawless theory!\\
'''[[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} Valvatorez]]:''' You're right! It's airtight!
** Then again, it's a Disgaea game, which tends to be ''full'' of this.
* Anti-Mage, from ''VideoGame/{{DOTA 2}}'' who is entirely based around... well, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin being good against mages]], was an acolyte in a monastery in which the monks living within were killed by [[OurZombiesAreDifferent a legion of the undead.]] Anti-Mage's reaction? Not to declare war on the undead, but on [[UpToEleven all magic and every mage in the world]]. One wouldn't even know about his grudge against the undead if it weren't for [[GameplayAndStorySegregation a single offhanded line he says when killing the only Zombie-based hero in the game.]]
%%* ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII'': Sarcastic Hawke's logic definitely falls under this category sometimes.
* In ''VideoGame/DwarfFortress'', it's possible for you to convict a crime victim of the very crime committed upon them -- for example, convicting the dwarf who has had his blood drained of draining his own blood. Your dwarves will actually be 'outraged at the bizarre conviction against all reason of the victim of a crime recently.' When you start looking among the world's events, you seriously have to question certain deities' reasons for [[spoiler:letting a demon out of hell]]. Sure, the more evil gods of misery and blood might just want some more of it, gods of valor might want heroes to have something to destroy, but just about ANY god can do this for reasons concerning ANY part of their sphere, be it youth, knowledge, or ''rainbows''. It's been documented at least one god did this after pondering the ineffable subtleties of ''fish''. Perhaps the gods have their own AnimalWrongsGroup up there...
* ''VideoGame/ExitFate'''s Father Luther explains [[http://i.imgur.com/cYULS.png how to spot a vampire]]:
-->All vampires play the organ! And if all vampires play the organ, then one who plays the organ is most likely a vampire!
* In ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII'':
** The fal'Cie are JerkassGods (well not actual gods but close to it) who run on BlueAndOrangeMorality, but in practice their methods are this trope. Fal'cie brand humans with mystical markings, turning them into l'Cie, servants that are bound to complete an objective, called a Focus. However, the Focus is usually only conveyed via vague visions and hallucinations, the fal'Cie sometimes state clearly what the Focus is but not always, leaving it to the l'Cie to guess what their Focus is. Completing the Focus comes with a time limit, fail and you turn into a zombie-like Cie'th. Succeed and your reward is immortality...as a crystal statue, until someday the fal'Cie has need of you again and revives you with a new Focus, with all the same restrictions as before.
** Even more troll logic can be seen in Balthandier's plan in the final chapter. Not that it stops the heros from [[NiceJobBreakingItHero going along with it anyway]]. [[spoiler:The fal'Cie want to be reunited with their god. In order to do that a MASSIVE number of humans need to die, as in all of Cocoon. The fal'Cie power Cocoon, and so if they were to die then Cocoon would fall to Pulse, killing all the humans and bringing the gods back to the world. The problem? They cannot self destruct, and no human can harm them, so they create l'Cie to kill them. Okay so far... but then he tells the heros the plan to die at their hands thus killing all humans. Being heros they refuse, so enter the troll logic. If they don't do it then he'll manipulate the human military to do it instead. WAIT A MINUTE! You just told us humans can't hurt you and only we can. What will that accomplish? No matter, we now must stop you from manipulating the human military by killing you! What do you mean it was your plan all along to make us kill you and we just said we wouldn't? YOU HAVE TO BE STOPPED!]]
* ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'' has this from Cervantes:
-->'''Cervantes:''' I've not shaved since my very first battle. And have I ever lost? No! Not even once! Ergo, my moustache makes me invincible. It's science, my boy, science!
* Early on in ''VideoGame/GhostTrick'', Sissel discovers that the ghost of the recently deceased dog Missile has tagged along with him into the past to prevent his death. Missile doesn't bat an eye at such a feat, reasoning that if his master can walk on two feet and he can't, he shouldn't find it weird that Sissel can walk through time and he can't. The worst part? ''Sissel agrees with his line of reasoning.''
** Although animals and humans are capable of communicating with each other in the ghost world, their knowledge about the world is vastly different, resulting in Missile drawing this absurd conclusion. Justified as it turns out that [[spoiler:Sissel was a cat all along who mistakenly assumed a human identity]].
* ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoV'' allows you to start a fight with someone and then call the police on them - and if they are armed it will result in them getting shot. You can use this to rob Ammunation and assist you in Gang Attacks, to name a couplee.
* In ''VideoGame/HyperdimensionNeptuniaV'', Noire has this hilarious reason as to why Plutia should transform into [[{{Dominatrix}} Iris Heart.]] Take note, this is ''how'' the dialogue was said.
-->'''Noire:''' (Noire Logic) Plutia HDD -> we win -> Planeptune citizens see Sadie -> freak -> Lastation wins!
* ''Videogame/TheImpossibleQuiz'' has a bucketload of this. Half the questions run on insane troll logic, the other half run on [[LuckBasedMission no logic at all]] and must simply be solved through [[TrialAndErrorGameplay trial and error]].
* ''Videogame/JablessAdventure''. Jables and Squiddy plumb the depths of the CardCarryingVillain's depravity:
-->'''Jables:''' I had no idea there was a villain.\\
'''Squiddy:''' I bet he's the one who kidnapped [[EverythingsBetterWithPrincesses the princess]].\\
'''Jables:''' Let her go, King Squid!\\
'''King Squid:''' I didn't kidnap any princess.\\
'''Squiddy:''' Then where is she?\\
'''King Squid:''' My plan doesn't involve the princess.\\
'''Squiddy:''' Yet you kidnapped her anyway.\\
'''Jables:''' That's evil.\\
'''King Squid:''' [[VisibleSilence ...]]
* ''VideoGame/JoJosBizarreAdventureAllStarBattle'': Josuke Higashikata's stand, Crazy Diamond, is able to return people and items to a previous state. For his level-2 LimitBreak, he heals his opponent back to full health, reasoning that it would make for a fair fight, then proceeds to use Crazy Diamond to [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown pummel the opponent like a punching bag]].
* ''VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising'': One of [[spoiler:Hades']] many uses of insane troll logic is to twist Pit [[spoiler:saying how he doesn't want to get out of the WombLevel 'the old fashioned way']] into meaning ''Pit hates life''.
-->[[spoiler:'''Hades:''' Unfortunately for you, there's only [[ToiletHumour one way out!]]]]\\
[[spoiler:'''Pit:''' [[BigNo NOOOO no no no]] please don't do that!]]\\
[[spoiler:'''Hades:''' Obeying the call of nature is part of the cycle of life. Tell me, Pit, why do you hate life?]]
* In ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsBirthBySleep'', GreaterScopeVillain Master Xehanort wants to bring full-on [[BalanceBetweenGoodAndEvil Balance Between Light and Darkness]] to all Worlds. So throughout the series (both directly and via proxies), he performs countless BlackMagic experiments and ComplexityAddiction-y schemes that clearly benefit only the Realm of Darkness while simultaneously harming the Realm of Light. Never mind the fact that said Worlds, being in the Realm of Light, are naturally Light-leaning anyway.
* The description of the [[MaskOfPower Stone Mask]] in the 3DS remake of ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMask'' is this. Putting on the mask allows [[KidHero Link]] to become [[LiteralMetaphor as plain as a stone]], so, the game reasons, since nobody pays attention to stones, [[HiddenInPlainSight you're practically invisible]].
* In ''VideoGame/LufiaCurseOfTheSinistrals'', Dekar had the ''[[IdiotHero brilliant]]'' idea of sewing his coat to ''his own shirt'', just so he could take both of them off at the same time. Even better, he doesn't remember this until ''after'' [[YouMustBeCold he offers his coat to Tia when they're on a cold mountain]].
* In ''Franchise/MassEffect'':
** A [[SociopathicHero Renegade]] [[PlayerCharacter Shepard]] can say:
--->'''Shepard:''' You refused to testify. Obviously you hate justice and deserve this.\\
'''Lorik Qi'in:''' [[LampshadeHanging What insane breed of logic is that?!]]
** "[[{{Jerkass}} Hey everyone!]] [[MemeticMutation This store discriminates against the poor]]!
** An indoctrinated Hanar reasons that if his race worships the Protheans and [[spoiler:the remaining Protheans were converted into the Reapers' slaves]], the Hanar must worship the Reapers. Shepard might refer to this as "insane [[FantasticRacism jellyfish]]" logic.
--->'''Shepard''': YouHaveGOTToBeKiddingMe!\\
'''Hanar''': Therefore, as a faithful servant of the Enkindlers, we too must serve the Reapers.\\
'''Shepard''': [[PunctuatedForEmphasis You. Big. Stupid. Jellyfish!]]\\
'''Kasumi''': You know, I support religious freedom for all species, but that's just crazy.
** Ka'hairal Balak blames Shepard for the downfall of the batarians, because [[spoiler:by stopping him at Terra Nova Shepard "forced" the Hegemony to accelerate research efforts on a Reaper corpse, therefore creating more indoctrinated batarians to sabotage Khar'shan when the Reapers came.]]
%%Yes, the Catalyst has some weird logic to its motivations, but there is a sense of actual logic to its reasoning, instead of the intentional, deliberate parody of logic that makes up this trope. Take it to BlueAndOrangeMorality or one of the fallacies listed under LogicalFallacies.
* Many puzzles in ''VideoGame/{{McPixel}}'' require this to succeed. To put things in perspective, the first rule of playing this game is this: If the solution you have in mind makes sense, there's a 75% chance it's wrong. The remaining 25%? It works, but not in the way you were expecting it to. Although after a couple levels it's almost second nature.
* The game ''VideoGame/MetalWolfChaos'' features propaganda news reports that define a [[NoTrueScotsman True American]] as "anyone who supports the idea of having the families and friends of terrorist sympathizers murdered in the streets" rather than "anyone who is a citizen of America".
* In ''VideoGame/{{Persona 4}}'', the true killer claims that he didn't kill the victims, he only threw them into the TV world, which then was responsible for their deaths. This despite it being pointed out that he knew what would happen to Saki Konishi after Mayumi Yamano died in the TV world. Also, noting that the world is influenced by people's thoughts, suggests that everyone outside, including the investigation team, is responsible, presumably saying this as a way of playing mind games with them.
* ''VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite'':
** The AnimalWrongsGroup, Team Plasma. Especially the [[FacelessGoons grunts]] and their tendency to [[BlatantLies explain themselves]] along the lines of 'we're abusing this Pokemon to help it!'
** One of the Team Plasma members in Chargestone Cave has this line to offer after she is defeated: "[[MoralMyopia It's bad for ordinary Trainers like you to use Pokémon. It's good for us members of Team Plasma to use Pokémon!]]"
* ''VideoGame/ResidentEvil6'': [[spoiler:Simmons']] idea of preventing a disaster that ''might'' have happened should the President make the truth behind the Raccoon City Incident public was to cause an ''actual'' disaster by infecting the entire city of Tall Oaks with the C-Virus, including the President himself, and then nuking it to cover his tracks. Leon and Helena even [[LampshadeHanging lampshade this]].
* The Narrator from ''Videogame/TheStanleyParable'' uses this in the Confusion Ending to choose which of two doors to go through [[note]]Both doors lead to the same room.[[/note]] ;
-->'''The Narrator:''' Okay, so I know that each door has to lead somewhere, which means that somewhere, the place where we're trying to go, there must be a reverse door that leads here, and that, in turn, means that our destination corresponds with that counterinverted reverse door's origin, so, starting from the right, let us ask: "Will taking the right door lead us to where we're going?" And since the answer is clearly "yes", then by all accounts, the door on the right is the correct one. Another victory for logic.
* The [[LovableCoward Spathi]] from ''[[VideoGame/StarControl Star Control 2]]'' use this to justify their fear of an "Ultimate Evil" that surely intends to destroy them. They have never found any evidence that such an evil exists, which means that it must be hiding just outside the range of their most powerful sensors, which is proof of its nefarious intent.
** It should be noted that when they figure out how to open and close the slaver system-isolating forcefields [[spoiler:the Spathi break their alliance and put a shield around their own planet to be safely shut off from the rest of the universe]].
* Early in ''VideoGame/SuikodenV'' there is a tournament to decide who will get to marry the Prince's sister. One group of people decide it's their patriotic duty to get a foreign competitor kicked out of the tournament. They do this by picking a fight with him so he will get disqualified when he ''kills them.'' When the Prince tries to stop them they figure that the ''real'' Prince would never try to stop such obviously patriotic people, therefore the Prince must be an impostor!
** Later on, Queen's Knight [[AxeCrazy Childerich]] slaughters a group of innocent civilians in a town his army had liberated from [[TheHero The Prince]]. The reason? They didn't try to stop the Prince from fleeing the city and so that made them "traitors" to the Crown.
* Fizzie from ''VideoGame/SunsetOverdrive'' employs this trope when trying to convince people to drink [[MayContainEvil the soft drink Overcharge.]] At one point, he advises the PlayerCharacter to drink Overcharge while they're climbing a building because climbers need oxygen, Overcharge has carbon dioxide, and dioxide is twice the oxygen!
* In ''VideoGame/{{Tropico}} 4'', this is Sunny Flowers' reasoning behind wanting El Presidente to demolish all newspapers: "Did you know that paper is made from trees? Trees are your friends. Do you want to read the news on the corpses of your friends?"
* [[spoiler:Alicia's]] breakdown in ''VideoGame/ValkyriaChronicles'' is basically this trope getting out of hand in the mind of one person. She decides she is an inhuman monster, and ultimately tries to kill herself. The girl she used to be is dead, and she can never live a normal life again because her only future is one as a killing machine, exploited for her powers. [[CursedWithAwesome None of this is even slightly true.]]
* The St. John family in ''VideoGame/TheWalkingDead'' are revealed to be [[spoiler: cannibals. When Lee discovers Mark and his missing legs, he confronts the family about it. Their response? The walkers do nothing but eat everything, so it's up to humans to make sure things do not go to waste by eating people themselves when they die. The problem with that logic is Mark was previously shot in the shoulder with an arrow and was in no danger of dying at all. Before Lee or his group can question the family further, they take Lee's group as hostages.]]
* ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'' has a rather jarring one. Garrosh Hellscream deliberately infests his men with the [[EldritchAbomination Sha]] in the belief that they'll somehow conquer the Sha and become stronger. When all of them succumb including his champion, he tells Anduin Wrynn (who had been trying to convince him what a bad idea it was) that [[NeverMyFault he cost Garrosh a mighty warrior]] and [[spoiler:almost]] kills him. [[spoiler:Granted, he turns out to have some more successful attempts later, including his own [[TheDragon right-hand man]], Malkorok, and he himself ends up wielding the power of the Heart of Y'Shaarj itself.]]
** Also there is the concentration camp in Hilssbrad Foothills. The guy who runs it is completely crazy and thinks that humans are plants. Despite actually being a human himself (an undead one, but still definitely a human). He's got a bunch of humans "planted" up to their necks in goodness-only-knows what sort of soil. You have the choice to either kill them or dig them up, before taking out the wackjob in charge. He also thinks that his flesh golem is definitely invincible even though he also says moments earlier that flesh is disgustingly weak. Of course, this might have something to do with the [[EldritchAbomination Old God]] that is revealed many expansions later to be nearby.
* The Corwids of ''VideoGame/ZenoClash'' are [[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} all a bit nuts]], but among the maddest is Helim, who decided he wanted to be invisible. So he started [[AxeCrazy plucking out the eyes of every creature that could see him]].
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