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** Actually, it seems that Yuri is an AcceptableTarget of sorts. Yurio won't be reprimanded by being a grade A jerk to him, but he will be called out the minute he looks weird to his fangirls. Maybe Lilia and Yakov realize there's no way to solve his competitiveness jackassery so they just stopped talking about it?
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** Actually, it seems that Yuri is an AcceptableTarget acceptable target of sorts. Yurio won't be reprimanded by being a grade A jerk to him, but he will be called out the minute he looks weird to his fangirls. Maybe Lilia and Yakov realize there's no way to solve his competitiveness jackassery so they just stopped talking about it?
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** Many are starting to see him as a JerkSue. From what this troper can see, Yurio has gotten away with being a complete and utter Jerkass to practically ''everyone'' in the show, especially Yuri and Victor, but is the sole breadwinner of his family, is hailed as a TeenGenius, looks pretty, has legions of loyal fans, nothing goes wrong for him that won't be solved almost instantly and is apparently Victor's successor, if the recent episode is anything to go by. If he wasn't such an ass, he'd be a GaryStu with those kinds of qualities.
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** Many are starting to see him as a JerkSue.{{Jerkass}}. From what this troper can see, Yurio has gotten away with being a complete and utter Jerkass to practically ''everyone'' in the show, especially Yuri and Victor, but is the sole breadwinner of his family, is hailed as a TeenGenius, looks pretty, has legions of loyal fans, nothing goes wrong for him that won't be solved almost instantly and is apparently Victor's successor, if the recent episode is anything to go by. If he wasn't such an ass, he'd be a GaryStu with those kinds of qualities.
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### Figure skating is culturally a woman dominated sport, so attendance often goes to the women's events rather than the men's. Compare the audience of [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaPBqCQ0c60 Evgenia Medvedeva's GPF performance]] to [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_9lEId2xW4 Yuzuru Hanyu's]].
### Which brings to Yurio's case, junior events are seen as the least popular session due to juniors having lower difficulty, lack experience, and less prestige than senior skaters. Compare [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElteOKxP5pI Jun Hwan's GPF]] again to Yuzuru which isn't a huge difference, but you can definitely see more empty spaces at the junior event.
### Which brings to Yurio's case, junior events are seen as the least popular session due to juniors having lower difficulty, lack experience, and less prestige than senior skaters. Compare [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElteOKxP5pI Jun Hwan's GPF]] again to Yuzuru which isn't a huge difference, but you can definitely see more empty spaces at the junior event.
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### Figure skating is culturally a woman dominated sport, so attendance often goes to the women's events rather than the men's. Compare the audience of [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaPBqCQ0c60 com/watch?v=1qsqJFIiS24 Evgenia Medvedeva's GPF performance]] to [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_9lEId2xW4 com/watch?v=n1sY0uck0u4 Yuzuru Hanyu's]].
### Which brings to Yurio's case, junior events are seen as the least popular session due to juniors having lower difficulty, lack experience, and less prestige than senior skaters. Compare [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElteOKxP5pI com/watch?v=FRQQk_S3yJ4 Jun Hwan's GPF]] again to Yuzuru which isn't a huge difference, but you can definitely see more empty spaces at the junior event.
### Which brings to Yurio's case, junior events are seen as the least popular session due to juniors having lower difficulty, lack experience, and less prestige than senior skaters. Compare [[https://www.youtube.
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** Keep in mind it was genuinely impossible for Yurio to celebrate Yuri's birthday with him on the actual day of. He only saw Yuri at the Cup of China, and Yuri'd just had a horrible day getting shifted between coaches, being without Victor, and being worried for Makkachin (who is literally older than Yurio). If he'd really wanted to give him bad luck, Yurio'd have wished him happy birthday before he skated instead.
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** He was apparently trying for a dude-y hard pat on the back as support/congratulations.
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** He was apparently trying for a dude-y hard pat on the back as support/congratulations. It didn't work, exactly, considering his mental state, but...
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** In addition, he probably didn't show up ''just'' to keep the boys away. His twin sister is in the Grand Prix Final, meaning she's literally one of the top six female skaters in the world. Even if he wasn't a skater himself or had that weird relationship with her, he'd be honor-bound to attend the finals and see her skate.
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** Aside from that one outburst at the GPF, Yuri's actually pretty nice to Yuuri...when Victor's not around. It's possible it's ''Victor'' who gets on his nerves, but since Yuuri's main plot-relevant relationship is with Victor, it's pretty rare that Yuri can catch Yuuri on his own.
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** It's also heavily implied that Yurio doesn't really have that many people in his life who care deeply for him. Yakov seems to, but his only remaining family seems to be his grandfather, who isn't in good health and couldn't have been a reliable caretaker for him growing up, though they do love each other deeply. When people think of unconditional love, their first instinct is usually paternal or at least familial – when it takes Yurio ''days'' of agonizing to think of someone that he loves who he's positive cares about him deeply, that should tell you something right there about the level of love and compassion in his life, as well as the fact that it's outright stated that no one has ''ever'' asked Yurio to be their friend before. Yakov and Lilia do their best for him, but they aren't his parents, they aren't his peers, and they're certainly not the biggest softies themselves. Victor, being so much older than Yurio, was probably one of the closest things he had to an older brother or mentor figure, and certainly the only person he considered a peer when he was still in his arrogant youth begging to do quads at 14 – it's no wonder he wouldn't take kindly to the person who drew that figure away from him, especially if it's easier for him to be angry at some stranger from Japan than it is to be angry at Victor for up and leaving him behind. He's lonely and overcompensating for a massive change in his life – over time, once he's able to get used to the idea, he doesn't shed his prickly shell but he becomes a ''lot'' nicer to Yuri as the series progresses and he starts seeing him as a peer and rival rather than a usurper and a thief.
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** It's also heavily implied that Yurio doesn't really have that many people in his life who care deeply for him. Yakov seems to, but his only remaining family seems to be his grandfather, who isn't in good health and couldn't have been a reliable caretaker for him growing up, though they do love each other deeply. When people think of unconditional love, their first instinct is usually paternal or at least familial – when it takes Yurio ''days'' of agonizing to think of someone that he loves who he's positive cares about him deeply, that should tell you something right there about the level of love and compassion in his life, as well as the fact that it's outright stated that no one has ''ever'' asked Yurio to be their friend before. Yakov and Lilia do their best for him, but they aren't his parents, they aren't his peers, and they're certainly not the biggest softies themselves. Victor, being so much older than Yurio, was probably one of the closest things he had to an older brother or mentor figure, and certainly the only person he considered a peer when he was still in his arrogant youth begging to do quads at 14 – it's no wonder he wouldn't take kindly to the person who drew that figure away from him, especially if it's easier for him to be angry at some stranger from Japan than it is to be angry at Victor for up and leaving him behind. He's lonely and overcompensating for a massive change in his life – over time, once he's able to get used to the idea, he doesn't shed his prickly shell but he becomes a ''lot'' nicer to Yuri as the series progresses and he starts seeing him as a peer and rival rather than a usurper and a thief. It's also clearly shown that he's not unable to develop good relationships with people and he isn't just a JerkAss, since he seems to get along fairly well with Yuko, the triplets, and eventually Otabek; Yuri just happens to be wrapped up in everything that's upsetting him at the moment. He's 15 with an already warped social life; he's not exactly mature enough to just handle that without finding someone to blame.
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*** Also, Yurio tends to use his own defeats to motivate himself. Seeing someone who impressed him crying in the bathroom wasn't the most inspiring image, and while it doesn't justify his attitude, it's certainly part of it.
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** It's also heavily implied that Yurio doesn't really have that many people in his life who care deeply for him. Yakov seems to, but his only remaining family seems to be his grandfather, who isn't in good health and couldn't have been a reliable caretaker for him growing up, though they do love each other deeply. When people think of unconditional love, their first instinct is usually paternal or at least familial – when it takes Yurio ''days'' of agonizing to think of someone that he loves who he's positive cares about him deeply, that should tell you something right there about the level of love and compassion in his life, as well as the fact that it's outright stated that no one has ''ever'' asked Yurio to be their friend before. Yakov and Lilia do their best for him, but they aren't his parents, they aren't his peers, and they're certainly not the biggest softies themselves. Victor, being so much older than Yurio, was probably one of the closest things he had to an older brother or mentor figure, and certainly the only person he considered a peer when he was still in his arrogant youth begging to do quads at 14 – it's no wonder he wouldn't take kindly to the person who drew that figure away from him, especially if it's easier for him to be angry at some stranger from Japan than it is to be angry at Victor for up and leaving him behind. He's lonely and overcompensating for a massive change in his life – over time, once he's able to get used to the idea, he doesn't shed his prickly shell but he becomes a ''lot'' nicer to Yuri as the series progresses and he starts seeing him as a peer and rival rather than a usurper and a thief.
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*** This. Slapstick in anime is nothing new; it's almost never a serious event. Think of it like a hard punch on the arm – probably hurts, but no real damage. This troper also wants to draw attention to Victor letting Yuri fall flat on his face to avoid getting blood on his suit – if he had just stepped aside and let Yuri crash to the ground like that IRL, with confirmed video and photos of the event, it would have been lambasted as a pretty cruel thing to do, but it's fiction and it's funny, so it's not that big of a deal.
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** Yakov also has no real right to keep Victor on a short leash. Yes, there's certain standards of behavior to maintain, but Victor is ''28 years old''. It wouldn't be appropriate for someone to drag him away from dancing with a guy at a party – he's a fully grown adult and he can and should be making his own decisions. If he was so wasted he couldn't walk, that'd be one thing, but he clearly wasn't. Regardless of whether or not Yakov knew, it would have been pretty strange for him to be trying to make Victor's social decisions for him. When he left, it seemed like Yakov was more irritated by how sudden his decisions were – it seems like until Yuri's video came up, Yakov would have been in the process of trying to help Victor create new routines, analyzing his performances, and just generally devoting time to him that Victor hadn't indicated he didn't want. And then within a few weeks he just announces he won't be competing and leaves. Maybe he had the right, but it was still a dick move after being Yakov's skater for so long. Yakov makes it clear that he's expecting an apology when Victor talks to him next, but Victor – who's been a little self absorbed the whole show – blatantly refuses to even be apologetic. Why ''wouldn't'' he be angry with him for that, crush or not?
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** 24 is not a young age to retire from figure skating; notice that many of the skaters he goes head to head with are still in their teens, and people like Chris, Georgi, and Victor are some of the oldest in the show. Yuri had the decision in his head to retire after his sixth place in his first grand prix final; once Victor showed up, he had a temporary goal, but as someone who has experience with maladaptive thinking habits, it's entirely possible he just never really realized that not retiring was an option. Once you get something like that in your head, it feels inevitable – and considering how Yuri considered himself 'dime a dozen' despite being quite literally ''the best figure skater in Japan at the time,'' it's not unreasonable for him to have considered this season to be his last hurrah before he inevitably left the game for good.
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*** He's based off of Yulia Lipnitskaya; Yuri is a fairly similar male name to Yulia, especially in a Japanese show where L and R wouldn't be pronounced differently.
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** The Grand Prix Finals banquet seems to be a pretty exclusive event made up of skaters, sponsors and coaches etc. It makes it easy for everyone involved to [[LetUsNeverSpeakOfThisAgain mutually agree to never let anything leak to social media]]. Plus, the ISU has a vested interest in not letting anything leak out considering how some very famous skaters were involved and the ensuing scandal could destroy their careers.
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** The Grand Prix Finals banquet seems to be a pretty exclusive event made up of skaters, sponsors and coaches etc. It makes it easy for everyone involved to [[LetUsNeverSpeakOfThisAgain mutually agree to never let anything leak to social media]]. Plus, the ISU has a vested interest in not letting anything leak out considering how some very famous skaters were involved and the ensuing scandal could destroy damage their careers.
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** The Grand Prix Finals banquet seems to be a pretty exclusive event made up of skaters, sponsors and coaches etc. It makes it easy for everyone involved to [[LetUsNeverSpeakOfThisAgain mutually agree to never let anything leak to social media]]. Plus, the ISU has a vested interest in not letting anything leak out considering how some very famous skaters were involved and the ensuing scandal could destroy their careers.
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### Figure skating is culturally a woman dominated sport, so attendance often goes to the women's events rather than the men's. Compare the audience of [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaPBqCQ0c60 Evgenia Medvedeva's GPF performance]] to [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08m9CebBBF4 com/watch?v=1_9lEId2xW4 Yuzuru Hanyu's]].
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* Why was Yurio getting hit with a stick at the temple? My sister and I guessed that it's some sort of punishment since he must have mouthed off to the wrong people or something...
** It's a common practice in Zen Buddhism. The stick is called a [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keisaku keisaku]], and it's used to hit people around the shoulders while they're meditating in order to maintain concentration.
* Why did Yuri hit Minami (or Minako, I can never remember. The guy who admires Yuri.) on the back in Episode 5? That actually seems kind of mean of him.
** He was apparently trying for a dude-y hard pat on the back as support/congratulations.
* What's the point of Serenade for Two and his whole IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy speech if Mickey showed up in Barcelona to keep the hyenas away from Sara?
** Given that he's been acting in an overprotective manner towards Sara for years, it's not like he can easily get over it in one night, but I'm definitely sure that he'll get better little by little, given that he really thought hard about it during the Rostelecom Cup.
* Why does the stadium where Yurio skated as a Junior [the scene where Victor promises to choreograph for Yurio] look awfully empty? We see judges, and hear a cheering crowd when Yurio pulled out a quad, but Victor is clearly shown to be standing in front of an empty section of the rink when Yakov is yelling at Yurio in the kiss-and-cry.
** There are 3 factors which is true for just about any sport:
*** 1) Figure skating events such as the Grand Prix Final are multi-day events (with different groups performing certain days) and can be awfully expensive(with a 1 day pass costing upwards to $200). Because of this, many fans may only be able to attend one session and therefore are going to shell out for the session they want to see the most, which leads to:
*** 2) Figure skating is culturally a woman dominated sport, so attendance often goes to the women's events rather than the men's. Compare the audience of [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaPBqCQ0c60 Evgenia Medvedeva's GPF performance]] to [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08m9CebBBF4 Yuzuru Hanyu's]].
*** 3) Which brings to Yurio's case, junior events are seen as the least popular session due to juniors having lower difficulty, lack experience, and less prestige than senior skaters. Compare [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElteOKxP5pI Jun Hwan's GPF]] again to Yuzuru which isn't a huge difference, but you can definitely see more empty spaces at the junior event.
* Why was Yurio getting hit with a stick at the temple? My sister and I guessed that it's some sort of punishment since he must have mouthed off to the wrong people or something...
** It's a common practice in Zen Buddhism. The stick is called a [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keisaku keisaku]], and it's used to hit people around the shoulders while they're meditating in order to maintain concentration.
* Why did Yuri hit Minami (or Minako, I can never remember. The guy who admires Yuri.) on the back in Episode 5? That actually seems kind of mean of him.
** He was apparently trying for a dude-y hard pat on the back as support/congratulations.
* What's the point of Serenade for Two and his whole IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy speech if Mickey showed up in Barcelona to keep the hyenas away from Sara?
** Given that he's been acting in an overprotective manner towards Sara for years, it's not like he can easily get over it in one night, but I'm definitely sure that he'll get better little by little, given that he really thought hard about it during the Rostelecom Cup.
* Why does the stadium where Yurio skated as a Junior [the scene where Victor promises to choreograph for Yurio] look awfully empty? We see judges, and hear a cheering crowd when Yurio pulled out a quad, but Victor is clearly shown to be standing in front of an empty section of the rink when Yakov is yelling at Yurio in the kiss-and-cry.
** There are 3 factors which is true for just about any sport:
*** 1) Figure skating events such as the Grand Prix Final are multi-day events (with different groups performing certain days) and can be awfully expensive(with a 1 day pass costing upwards to $200). Because of this, many fans may only be able to attend one session and therefore are going to shell out for the session they want to see the most, which leads to:
*** 2) Figure skating is culturally a woman dominated sport, so attendance often goes to the women's events rather than the men's. Compare the audience of [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaPBqCQ0c60 Evgenia Medvedeva's GPF performance]] to [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08m9CebBBF4 Yuzuru Hanyu's]].
*** 3) Which brings to Yurio's case, junior events are seen as the least popular session due to juniors having lower difficulty, lack experience, and less prestige than senior skaters. Compare [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElteOKxP5pI Jun Hwan's GPF]] again to Yuzuru which isn't a huge difference, but you can definitely see more empty spaces at the junior event.
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* Why was Yurio getting hit with a stick at the temple? My sister and I guessed that it's some sort of punishment since he must have mouthed off to the wrong people or something...
** It's a common practice in Zen Buddhism. The stick is called a [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keisaku keisaku]], and it's used to hit people around the shoulders while they're meditating in order to maintain concentration.
* Why did Yuri hit Minami (or Minako, I can never remember. The guy who admires Yuri.) on the back in Episode 5? That actually seems kind of mean of him.
** He was apparently trying for a dude-y hard pat on the back as support/congratulations.
* What's the point of Serenade for Two and his whole IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy speech if Mickey showed up in Barcelona to keep the hyenas away from Sara?
** Given that he's been acting in an overprotective manner towards Sara for years, it's not like he can easily get over it in one night, but I'm definitely sure that he'll get better little by little, given that he really thought hard about it during the Rostelecom Cup.
* Why does the stadium where Yurio skated as a Junior [the scene where Victor promises to choreograph for Yurio] look awfully empty? We see judges, and hear a cheering crowd when Yurio pulled out a quad, but Victor is clearly shown to be standing in front of an empty section of the rink when Yakov is yelling at Yurio in the kiss-and-cry.
** There are 3 factors which is true for just about any sport:
*** 1) Figure skating events such as the Grand Prix Final are multi-day events (with different groups performing certain days) and can be awfully expensive(with a 1 day pass costing upwards to $200). Because of this, many fans may only be able to attend one session and therefore are going to shell out for the session they want to see the most, which leads to:
*** 2) Figure skating is culturally a woman dominated sport, so attendance often goes to the women's events rather than the men's. Compare the audience of [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaPBqCQ0c60 Evgenia Medvedeva's GPF performance]] to [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08m9CebBBF4 Yuzuru Hanyu's]].
*** 3) Which brings toYurio's case, junior events are seen as the least popular session due to juniors having lower difficulty, lack experience, and less prestige than senior skaters. Compare [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElteOKxP5pI Jun Hwan's GPF]] again to Yuzuru which isn't a huge difference, but you can definitely see more empty spaces at the junior event. name]]
* Why was Yurio getting hit with a stick at the temple? My sister and I guessed that it's some sort of punishment since he must have mouthed off to the wrong people or something...
** It's a common practice in Zen Buddhism. The stick is called a [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keisaku keisaku]], and it's used to hit people around the shoulders while they're meditating in order to maintain concentration.
* Why did Yuri hit Minami (or Minako, I can never remember. The guy who admires Yuri.) on the back in Episode 5? That actually seems kind of mean of him.
** He was apparently trying for a dude-y hard pat on the back as support/congratulations.
* What's the point of Serenade for Two and his whole IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy speech if Mickey showed up in Barcelona to keep the hyenas away from Sara?
** Given that he's been acting in an overprotective manner towards Sara for years, it's not like he can easily get over it in one night, but I'm definitely sure that he'll get better little by little, given that he really thought hard about it during the Rostelecom Cup.
* Why does the stadium where Yurio skated as a Junior [the scene where Victor promises to choreograph for Yurio] look awfully empty? We see judges, and hear a cheering crowd when Yurio pulled out a quad, but Victor is clearly shown to be standing in front of an empty section of the rink when Yakov is yelling at Yurio in the kiss-and-cry.
** There are 3 factors which is true for just about any sport:
*** 1) Figure skating events such as the Grand Prix Final are multi-day events (with different groups performing certain days) and can be awfully expensive(with a 1 day pass costing upwards to $200). Because of this, many fans may only be able to attend one session and therefore are going to shell out for the session they want to see the most, which leads to:
*** 2) Figure skating is culturally a woman dominated sport, so attendance often goes to the women's events rather than the men's. Compare the audience of [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaPBqCQ0c60 Evgenia Medvedeva's GPF performance]] to [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08m9CebBBF4 Yuzuru Hanyu's]].
*** 3) Which brings to
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* Why does the stadium where Yurio skated as a Junior [the scene where Victor promises to choreograph for Yurio] look awfully empty? We see judges, and hear a cheering crowd when Yurio pulled out a quad, but Victor is clearly shown to be standing in front of an empty section of the rink when Yakov is yelling at Yurio in the kiss-and-cry.
** There are 3 factors which is true for just about any sport:
### Figure skating events such as the Grand Prix Final are multi-day events (with different groups performing certain days) and can be awfully expensive(with a 1 day pass costing upwards to $200). Because of this, many fans may only be able to attend one session and therefore are going to shell out for the session they want to see the most, which leads to:
### Figure skating is culturally a woman dominated sport, so attendance often goes to the women's events rather than the men's. Compare the audience of [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaPBqCQ0c60 Evgenia Medvedeva's GPF performance]] to [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08m9CebBBF4 Yuzuru Hanyu's]].
### Which brings to Yurio's case, junior events are seen as the least popular session due to juniors having lower difficulty, lack experience, and less prestige than senior skaters. Compare [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElteOKxP5pI Jun Hwan's GPF]] again to Yuzuru which isn't a huge difference, but you can definitely see more empty spaces at the junior event.
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* Why was Yurio getting hit with a stick at the temple? My sister and I guessed that it's some sort of punishment since he must have mouthed off to the wrong people or something...
** It's a common practice in Zen Buddhism. The stick is called a [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keisaku keisaku]], and it's used to hit people around the shoulders while they're meditating in order to maintain concentration.
* Why did Yuri hit Minami (or Minako, I can never remember. The guy who admires Yuri.) on the back in Episode 5? That actually seems kind of mean of him.
** He was apparently trying for a dude-y hard pat on the back as support/congratulations.
* What's the point of Serenade for Two and his whole IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy speech if Mickey showed up in Barcelona to keep the hyenas away from Sara?
** Given that he's been acting in an overprotective manner towards Sara for years, it's not like he can easily get over it in one night, but I'm definitely sure that he'll get better little by little, given that he really thought hard about it during the Rostelecom Cup.
* How the blazes did the [[spoiler: banquet shenanigans]] not leak to the media? There were quite a lot of people looking scandalized, and at least one guy was filming/taking pictures as Yuuri was [[spoiler: ''grinding'' on Victor.]]
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* Yurio gives Yuri the bag of katsudon pirozhki, saying "It's almost your birthday, right?" However, it is a Russian superstition that if you give someone birthday wishes before the actual day of their birthday, they will have bad luck. The creators of the show are clearly aware of this- in episode 10, when Yuri is walking with Viktor in Barcelona, he mentions that Viktor's birthday is coming and asks what he'd like as a gift. Viktor responds by saying "In Russia, we don't celebrate before the actual birthday." So I'm wondering what this means. Was Yurio trying to give Yuri bad luck on purpose? Is he just not superstitious? Is this just an inconsistency that went unnoticed?
** Most likely he' not superstitious, but possibly he figures since Yuri is Japanese and it's a Russian superstition, it only effect Russians. Victor says the next episode he's gonna buy Yuri a suit for his birthday, and I wouldn't think he wants to wish Yuri bad luck, so perhaps he has the same logic? It slips my mind whether Yuri ever wore a suit again, but I doubt he'd let Yuri off without buying art least one new suit.
** Yurio is not the kind of person who gives gifts out of the goodness of his heart. At least, he doesn't want people to think he is. He was really excited by Yuri's performance and wanted to congratulate him, but Yurio still has his Ice Tiger image to keep up. Yuri's upcoming birthday was a convenient excuse for Yurio to be nice without being too nice.
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* Yurio gives Yuri the bag of katsudon pirozhki, saying "It's almost your birthday, right?" However, it is a Russian superstition that if you give someone birthday wishes before the actual day of their birthday, they will have bad luck. The creators of the show are clearly aware of this- in episode 10, when Yuri is walking with Viktor in Barcelona, he mentions that Viktor's birthday is coming and asks what he'd like as a gift. Viktor responds by saying "In Russia, we don't celebrate before the actual birthday." So I'm wondering what this means. Was Yurio trying to give Yuri bad luck on purpose? Is he just not superstitious? Is this just an inconsistency that went unnoticed?
** Most likely he' not superstitious, but possibly he figures since Yuri is Japanese and it's a Russian superstition, it only effect Russians. Victor says the next episode he's gonna buy Yuri a suit for his birthday, and I wouldn't think he wants to wish Yuri bad luck, so perhaps he has the same logic? It slips my mind whether Yuri ever wore a suit again, but I doubt he'd let Yuri off without buying art least one new suit.
** Yurio is not the kind of person who gives gifts out of the goodness of his heart. At least, he doesn't want people to think he is. He was really excited by Yuri's performance and wanted to congratulate him, but Yurio still has his Ice Tiger image to keep up. Yuri's upcoming birthday was a convenient excuse for Yurio to be nice without being too nice.
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* Yurio gives Yuri the bag of katsudon pirozhki, saying "It's almost your birthday, right?" However, it is a Russian superstition that if you give someone birthday wishes before the actual day of their birthday, they will have bad luck. The creators of the show are clearly aware of this- in episode 10, when Yuri is walking with Viktor in Barcelona, he mentions that Viktor's birthday is coming and asks what he'd like as a gift. Viktor responds by saying "In Russia, we don't celebrate before the actual birthday." So I'm wondering what this means. Was Yurio trying to give Yuri bad luck on purpose? Is he just not superstitious? Is this just an inconsistency that went unnoticed?
** Most likely he' not superstitious, but possibly he figures since Yuri is Japanese and it's a Russian superstition, it only effect Russians. Victor says the next episode he's gonna buy Yuri a suit for his birthday, and I wouldn't think he wants to wish Yuri bad luck, so perhaps he has the same logic? It slips my mind whether Yuri ever wore a suit again, but I doubt he'd let Yuri off without buying art least one new suit.
** Yurio is not the kind of person who gives gifts out of the goodness of his heart. At least, he doesn't want people to think he is. He was really excited by Yuri's performance and wanted to congratulate him, but Yurio still has his Ice Tiger image to keep up. Yuri's upcoming birthday was a convenient excuse for Yurio to be nice without being too nice.
** Most likely he' not superstitious, but possibly he figures since Yuri is Japanese and it's a Russian superstition, it only effect Russians. Victor says the next episode he's gonna buy Yuri a suit for his birthday, and I wouldn't think he wants to wish Yuri bad luck, so perhaps he has the same logic? It slips my mind whether Yuri ever wore a suit again, but I doubt he'd let Yuri off without buying art least one new suit.
** Yurio is not the kind of person who gives gifts out of the goodness of his heart. At least, he doesn't want people to think he is. He was really excited by Yuri's performance and wanted to congratulate him, but Yurio still has his Ice Tiger image to keep up. Yuri's upcoming birthday was a convenient excuse for Yurio to be nice without being too nice.
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* How the blazes did the [[spoiler: banquet shenanigans]] not leak to the media? There were quite a lot of people looking scandalized, and at least one guy was filming/taking pictures as Yuuri was [[spoiler: ''grinding'' on Victor.]]
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*** Guess Georgi can't catch a break in being overshadowed.
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*** ... Ever been around teenagers in RealLife? Quite a number of them are aggressive and self-centered for little to no reason, and may indeed mercilessly bully people who don't deserve it. Obviously there are plenty of perfectly nice teenagers - as are most of the teens in the show - but the TeensAreMonsters trope exists in reality as well as in fiction.
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*** ... Ever been around teenagers in RealLife? Quite a number of them are aggressive and self-centered for little to no reason, and may indeed mercilessly bully people who don't deserve it. Obviously there are plenty of perfectly nice teenagers - as are most of the teens in the show - but Yurio instead runs a bit closer to the TeensAreMonsters trope exists in reality as well as in fiction.trope.
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** As someone who normally ''hates'' this type of character... I actually like Yurio. There are little bits and details even quite early in the series that hint that he's not a ''complete'' jerk and which become more obvious over time, which probably accounts for at least some of his fanbase (for example, not turning Yuri down when the latter asked him to help with his jumps). Aside from that, his jerkish moments are often played for laughs, and it's made clear that the other characters are well aware of his asshole behavior - other series might instead play off such behavior as nothing, while Yurio is more often than not dismissed, berated, or trolled for it.
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** As someone who normally ''hates'' this type of character... I actually like Yurio. There are little bits and details even quite early in the series that hint that he's not a ''complete'' jerk and which become more obvious over time, which probably accounts for at least some of his fanbase (for example, not turning Yuri down when the latter asked him to help with his jumps). Aside from that, his jerkish moments are often played for laughs, and it's made clear that the other characters are well aware of his asshole behavior - other series might instead play off such behavior as nothing, while Yurio is more often than not gets dismissed, berated, or trolled for it.
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** As someone who normally ''hates'' this type of character... I actually like Yurio. There are little bits and details that hint that he's not a ''complete'' jerk, which probably accounts for at least some of his fanbase (for example, not turning Yuri down when the latter asked him to help with his jumps, even early in the series). Aside from that, his jerkish moments are often played for laughs, and it's made clear that the other characters are well aware of his asshole behavior - other series might instead play off such behavior as nothing, while Yurio is more often than not dismissed, berated, or trolled for it.
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** As someone who normally ''hates'' this type of character... I actually like Yurio. There are little bits and details even quite early in the series that hint that he's not a ''complete'' jerk, jerk and which become more obvious over time, which probably accounts for at least some of his fanbase (for example, not turning Yuri down when the latter asked him to help with his jumps, even early in the series).jumps). Aside from that, his jerkish moments are often played for laughs, and it's made clear that the other characters are well aware of his asshole behavior - other series might instead play off such behavior as nothing, while Yurio is more often than not dismissed, berated, or trolled for it.
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*** ... Ever been around teenagers in RealLife? Quite a number of them are aggressive and self-centered for little to no reason, and may indeed mercilessly bully people who don't deserve it. Obvious there's plenty of perfectly nice teenager - as are most of the teens in the show - but the TeensAreMonsters trope exists in reality as well as in fiction.
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*** ... Ever been around teenagers in RealLife? Quite a number of them are aggressive and self-centered for little to no reason, and may indeed mercilessly bully people who don't deserve it. Obvious there's Obviously there are plenty of perfectly nice teenager teenagers - as are most of the teens in the show - but the TeensAreMonsters trope exists in reality as well as in fiction.
