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**** Not so. ALL homocide victims have to be inspected by the coroner and the cause of death put to report by the same coroner, even if the cause is blatantly obvious, like decapitation. That's still, in legal terms, an "autopsy."


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** Batman being persecuted is part of the job. He's a vigilante who inspires fear and often has to deal with monsters who are too similar to him for comfort. This film and the trilogy itself brings up the fact that as an outsider Batman can do good that goes beyond the law's control, but because people rely on the law for their security and guidance he unsettles them.


** Rachelís reaction was hypocritical, but in a human way and not really villainous. She supported Batmanís campaign as long as he was doing good for Gotham, but when the Joker arrived she thought itíd gone too far. She put up with it as long as she could, but she couldnít put up with it forever. The human spirit, no matter how great it can be, is still only human. She did ask for his forgiveness for leaving him though, so she respected him even if she didnít agree with him.



* Well, if it was accidental, sure. Then again, Dent had just agreed with everything the Joker did and was going to kill Gordonís son out of spite (though he said it was fairness), so Dent deserved what he got.



** It was a maverick stunt thatíd only work because of Dentís popularity, the mayor mentions this to Dent. The fact is Dent was on too high a pedestal: he was seen taking risks no attorney should try and in private threatened to kill Thomas Schiff in the aftermath of Gordonís assumed death. He was unbalanced in private, but a white knight in public. Batman pointed out to Dent that any scandal that affected him would undo all his work.



*** And Joker ''did'' create Two-Face.



** In that case Maroni should have survived too.




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** The question is loaded, because it was necessary and right at the time. It was the only thing Gordon and Batman could think of that would keep Gotham going. And as DKR proves later on, it was a temporary solution.


** Commissioner Gordon is [[Film/MontyPythonAndTheHolyGrail King Arthur]].
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** Commissioner Here's another possibility: the two cops guarding Harvey's room (yes, they were the Joker's doing, but they just as easily could be seen as Harvey's kills and any solid evidence was destroyed in the explosion), Wuertz (who Gordon is [[Film/MontyPythonAndTheHolyGrail King Arthur]].
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doesn't consider as a cop due to his crookedness), Maroni, and Maroni's driver (we did see Maroni's bodyguard get pulled aside by Harvey when Harvey was getting in Maroni's car, but he most likely was just knocked out, not killed).


** Disagree. Beyond being a funny VisualPun, we only see one side of the joker card. He probably wrote the number on the other side. He's psycho and "an agent of chaos", yes, but at this point he genuinely intends for them to contact him so he can burn their money and use it to help fund his war against Batman. He kills Gambol because a) he put a hit out on him b) he's the only mob leader to refuse his "business offer" and c) to send a message to the other leaders. And it's clear they did contact him as a response to their accountant's arrest. Maroni also has at least a working idea of where to find him. Personally in their shoes I'd much rather ''call'' him than physically seek him out. Not that even a phone call is straightforward and risk-free when dealing with the Joker.

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** Disagree. Beyond being a funny VisualPun, we only see one side of the joker card. He probably wrote the unlisted telephone number to contact him at on the other side. He's psycho and "an agent of chaos", yes, but at this point he genuinely intends for them to contact him so he can burn their money and use it to help fund his war against Batman. He kills Gambol because a) he put a hit out on him b) he's the only mob leader to refuse his "business offer" and c) to send a message to the other leaders. And it's clear they did contact him as a response to their accountant's arrest. Maroni also has at least a working idea of where to find him. Personally in their shoes I'd much rather ''call'' him the Joker than physically seek him out. Not that even a phone call is straightforward and risk-free when dealing with the Joker.Joker, even if you take precautions like not using names.

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*** A few more deaths can be easily pinned on the Joker with no problem. With people tired of his shit, no one's gonna believe him if he claims he didn't do it.


** Or if the Batpod had to have been in the original Tumbler (which is the same one seen in both films) Bruce and Lucius Fox reasoned that the type of missions where you expose the vehicle to risk of catastrophic failure are not those where you bring passengers, for safety protocol. Therefore, if you need to eject, you're only going to be carrying yourself inside anyway and no need for a passenger. The only times as far as I can remember that the Tumbler ever had a passenger were both in ''Batman Begins'': when Bruce was test-driving it with Fox, and later during the police chase when he was rushing Rachel back to the Batcave.

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** Or if If the Batpod had to have been in the original Tumbler (which is the same one seen in both films) films), Bruce and Lucius Fox reasoned that the type of missions where you expose the vehicle to risk of catastrophic failure are not those where you bring passengers, for safety protocol. Therefore, if you need to eject, you're only going to be carrying yourself inside anyway and no need for a passenger. The only times as far as I can remember that time the Tumbler ever had a passenger were both in ''Batman Begins'': when Bruce was test-driving it with Fox, and later during the police chase when he was rushing Rachel back to the Batcave.

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** Notice also how it's the guy who is most vocal about pushing the button on the convicts who ends up with the trigger at the crunch point... and at the end, even he can't bring himself to do it. Talk is one thing, but it's what you actually end up doing that proves who you are.


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** The previous troper frames it as a massive over-generalisation, true, but the basic point that in general mothers are psychologically inclined to protect their offspring against any threat, even at the cost of their own life, is hardly an unsupportable one.
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** They would also assume that the prisoners would, if necessary, overwhelm the guards. Any guards are outnumbered by violent convicts and it's not like backup is available.


** Biologically unsound or not, it's the nature of the character; the whole point is that he's had half his face burned off. It's, well, why he's called "Two-Face" to begin with. Change that, and you're changing a vital part of what people know about the character and risking pissing the viewing audience off. So just go with it, remember that he's still a comic book character in a comic book movie, and apply hefty doses of WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief.

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** Biologically unsound or not, it's the nature of the character; the whole point is that he's had half his face burned off. It's, well, why he's called "Two-Face" to begin with. It's symbolic and thematic as much as intended to be realistic. Change that, and you're changing a vital part of what people know about the character and risking pissing off a huge chunk of the viewing audience off.audience. So just go with it, remember that he's still a comic book character in a comic book movie, and apply hefty doses of WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief.

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** Biologically unsound or not, it's the nature of the character; the whole point is that he's had half his face burned off. It's, well, why he's called "Two-Face" to begin with. Change that, and you're changing a vital part of what people know about the character and risking pissing the viewing audience off. So just go with it, remember that he's still a comic book character in a comic book movie, and apply hefty doses of WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief.

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***FridgeBrilliance posits that the Joker could easily have mixed up the addresses because he was dizzy from Batman slamming his head into the table all those times.

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*** He doesn't have to be at the scene of Harvey's death to be guilty. They could say that it was henchmen working for the Joker who were responsible.

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