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*** There's also the fact that Robin is a fairly well-known hero by this point—when Beast Boy meets him in "Go!", he's totally starstruck, and even a low-level street thug all the way across the country from Gotham recognized him as Batman's partner. Robin likely doesn't tell anyone that he's Dick Grayson because Dick Grayson is the adopted son of Bruce Wayne, and if Dick Grayson is Robin, there's a good chance that Bruce Wayne is Batman. He's trying to protect Bruce's identity as much as his own out of respect for his mentor and father figure. (In the tie-in comic, the team is clearly aware of his identity, but we don't know when he finally told them. Even though he's learned more about trusting his team, it's not just his mission at stake, so it's much more understandable that he'd withhold that information until he believed they were ready.)

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*** There's also the fact that Robin is a fairly well-known hero by this point—when Beast Boy meets him in "Go!", he's totally starstruck, and even a low-level street thug all the way across the country from Gotham recognized him as Batman's partner. Robin likely doesn't tell anyone that he's Dick Grayson Grayson, or let anyone call him that even in his downtime, because Dick Grayson is the adopted son of Bruce Wayne, and if Dick Grayson is Robin, there's a good chance that Bruce Wayne is Batman. He's trying to protect Bruce's identity as much as his own out of respect for his mentor and father figure. (In the tie-in comic, the team is clearly aware of his identity, identity and backstory, but we don't know when he finally told them. Even though he's learned more about trusting his team, team since "Masks", it's not just his mission at stake, so it's much more understandable that he'd withhold that information until he believed they were ready.he could risk it.)

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**** There's also the fact that Robin is a fairly well-known hero by this point—when Beast Boy meets him in "Go!", he's totally starstruck, and even a low-level street thug all the way across the country from Gotham recognized him as Batman's partner. Robin likely doesn't tell anyone that he's Dick Grayson because Dick Grayson is the adopted son of Bruce Wayne, and if Dick Grayson is Robin, there's a good chance that Bruce Wayne is Batman. He's trying to protect Bruce's identity as much as his own out of respect for his mentor and father figure. (In the tie-in comic, the team is clearly aware of his identity, but we don't know when he finally told them. Even though he's learned more about trusting his team, it's not just his mission at stake, so it's much more understandable that he'd withhold that information until he believed they were ready.)



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*** With respect, you're ignoring the entire rest of history with that statement. EVERY race has been enslaved at some point or another, often by their own race (if you use 'race' as the equivalent of skin color). Such a focus on skin color I'd argue degrades the characters' achievements, making them seem like those achievements were nothing more than affirmative action on the writers' part rather than traits of the characters.


** B, Cyborg makes it clear he misses his old life before the accident that turned him into "Robotman 2.0" as an excited Beast Boy put it. Doing weights allows him to regain some semblance of routine. We could argue that Starfire doesn't need to train because her strength comes from feeling confidence, but she still exercises with the team.

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** B, Cyborg makes it clear he misses his old life before the accident that turned him into "Robotman 2.0" as an excited Beast Boy put it. Doing weights allows him to regain some semblance of routine. We could argue that Starfire doesn't need to train because her strength comes from feeling confidence, but she still exercises with the team.team.

* Ok, one of your team-mates is a key to gate of hell dimension prison. Her own father is inter-dimensional space demon whose release from aforementioned prison would cause the EndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt on universe scale. You have a few months to prepare. The whole team comes with a perfectly safe room, in which Father cannot get. You are well aware that the demon has an army of lesser demons on his disposal. The team is consisting of former member of Doom patrol and a FlyingBrick princess of the whole planet of flying bricks. What do you do? If your answer is: face the army of demons alone, then congratulations, because you are a Teen Titan.
** Counterpoint: Raven is a one-woman DysfunctionJunction. The room is ''theoretically'' perfectly safe.
*** Counter-counterpoint: That's missing the original point. The only reason why Raven got out of the room was because she was worried about her friends' safety. And the only reason why she was worried is because they were four super-powered teens fighting against lava monsters/demons outnumbering them hundred to one lead by undead villain mastermind. Four heroes vs 1000+ villains, when there was nothing preventing said heroes from simply telling "Hey, Starfire? Your dad is a king of the whole warrior planet. Can you ask him to send a couple hundred of his soldiers (all of which have the same powers as you do, only mature ones by the way.) to help us keep the line until bad omens pass?" \\
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The only reason why Raven could open the portal was because stars aligned, the only reason why she did it is because she was worried for her friends' safety. Now, imagine fifty adult, Tamaranean soldiers, all of them having same or stronger powers as teen Starfire, kicking demonic arses and taking names until planetary alignment passes. Hell, you could leave Beast Boy in the tower, acting like a radio commentator to Raven and telling her how the battle in the outside world is going, since he was pretty useless in that fight anyway.Heck, why stop at fifty? They have the whole Tamaran of adult Starfires to choose from. You'd think that preventing GodOfEvil from getting out of his prison and transforming the whole planet into giant lake of fire, every single sentient being into stone statue and threatening the whole galaxy would be higher on the Titans' to do list... I mean, there's trying to be independent from your adult superhero mentor and there's just being over your head in trouble and being too stupid to ask for help.
*** There's one problem with asking the Tamarians for help: they're on other planet entirely. Even if they could have contacted them directly from Earth, it's still a long way to travel between both planets, despite most of the travel time being off-screen. It's more likely that not that the Teen Titans minus Raven were all that stood in the way... and despite their skills, they would've been overwhelmed eventually, and the tower would have been destroyed (and by doing so, indirectly destroying the room and breaking the protective spells). So really, Raven simply gave into the inevitable, and prevented her friends from being hurt before it was too late.
*** Why didn't the titans just take raven off-world?
*** And on a side-note, the room was ''claimed'' to be safe. We never got to see if it truly was... it could've just as easily not been safe.
* Not to mention that end of the world would destroy both heroes and villains alike, so there is absolutely no way for there ever to be better EnemyMine situation. Is there actually a trope for not bothering your much more powerful ally when the whole world is at stake?
** Which is exactly what happens (EnemyMine that is) when Slade, the one responsible adult not turned into stone, switches sides and helps Titans.
* [[GodOfEvil Trigon's]] entire plan for resurrection is completely dependent on Raven not dying. Had she, there was no back-up plan, and he would be permanently stuck under the Earth.
** Raven's ''destiny'' was to become the portal for Trigon. He either looked into the future and saw that, or maybe even set that part of the future himself- he didn't need to worry about her dying before doing something she was fated to do. Really, he should have paid more attention to what happened to her ''after'' she became the potal...
** However, Trigon is, as far as we know a immortal demon. If he could create Raven to be a portal,(as far as I'm aware, it's never explained how he managed to create Raven, especially if he can't even enter the TT dimension without someone like her) presumably he could do so as many times as it requires for it to stick. In fact, why Trigon even bothers to use an obviously heroic and not willing teenager as this portal instead of starting over until he gets a willing spawn is a bigger question.
*** One thing I, and after bringing it up and being told that it was obvious by others, noticed was that, surprisingly, Trigon actually did care about his daughter. Hell, judging by the fact Arella survived whatever he did to Azarath according to the tie in comics, he probably cared about her in some fashion as well, but then, in the comics, they did actually get married... And I don't think they ever actually got divorced, Arella just ran away screaming when she found out which demon specifically she was married to. Trigon seems to just be the Demon version of the bumbling dad who has no idea what the hell he's doing with his kid. Hell, he's a [[RealityWarper Reality Warper]] and demonstrated that he could pierce the defensive spell Raven put on her friends effortlessly, so the only possible reason for them not being turned to stone is him just not turning them to stone. Also note, it was pretty clear Raven was supposed to die making the portal, Trigon essentially admitted that he had saved her. Also note Trigon's method, and compare to what Raven wanted specifically, she wanted her friends not hurt (they weren't, and Trigon could have easily done so in countless ways), she didn't want anyone to die or get hurt, (Trigon turning everyone to stone neatly accomplished both, as statues don't feel pain.) and she probably wanted to live, which she did, because Trigon made it so.\\
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Of course, this might just be ''ComicBook/TinyTitans'' Trigon coloring my perceptions...
** A couple issues with that theory, though: First, when he attacks Raven in "Birthmark", a super-powered Slade mentions flesh becoming stone like it was part of the prophecy. Secondly, Trigon told her a couple times that the only reason she exists is to release him. She pleaded with him like an emotionally fatigued daughter would her stern father, and he basically said, "too bad, so sad". Third, allowing the Titans to live was more an agreement with Slade (when they were trying to protect her), and that was pretty much to move things along. Remember, Raven had accepted her role as inevitable and wanted to spare the only four people who cared about her the pain of a losing battle. Lastly, Trigon is supremely arrogant. The Titans throw everything they have at him, and the damage is negligible. So what if four or (with Slade) five mortals still roam the Earth? So what if his "Gem" is still alive? What can they possibly do? [[BreakTheHaughty Oh, wait...]]
* WHERE DO THEY GET ALL OF THEIR MONEY!?
** Robin is the adopted son of Bruce Wayne, one of the richest people in the world. You do the math.
** The same is more or less also true for Beast Boy.
*** But didn't Robin split from Bruce Wayne because he wanted to be his own man? I can believe Bruce being generous with Robin's allowance prior to that, but not so generous they can build a tower with all the latest tech, a plane/space ship/submarine, and the T car. (It's difficult for me to believe Cyborg paid for all the parts by himself.) And wasn't Beast Boy kicked out of the Doom Patrol for his own safety? I doubt he was able to stay in contact.
*** It's never been explained why they split. [[http://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/1629390.html Robin once joked (probably) in the comics that he got a Batmobile by hiding it in the Batarang budget]]. There's no real reason Dick couldn't get his own discretionary funds from Bruce. I doubt he's so proud as to turn down free money. Bruce gives him the money, and he does what he wants with it.
*** Knowing Robin and Batman, that's probably how it happens... And it's the result of a big fight: Batman wanted to help more, but in the end he 'only' managed to supply money.
** In the comics, Cyborg's dad pays for the Titans, or at least the Tower.
** Also, what Jump City is getting from the Titans is a team of people specializing in taking down threats that the police would be useless against (even Dr. Light and the Hive Five would have the run of the place, and otherwise far more devastating equipment would have to be used. Oh, and said team is lead by the apprentice of Batman, who clearly is emotionally mature and can take responsibility. On the other hand, if they went criminal, the city would have essentially a princess of a warrior planet, a shapeshifting, emotionally immature goblin, a martial artist who can take out things entire squads of police wouldn't stand a chance against, a hulking killer robot-man, and the Antichrist to deal with. To say nothing of a team-up... Jump City would be forced to pay for them.
* Uh... How in the name of sanity did the "computer virus" that made Cyborg think everything was food work? It can apparently be downloaded onto a disc, be uploaded to someone... but also is a nanite infection, is spread by touching other machines, and can be transmitted via transmitter. That's not a virus, that's magic. A COMPUTER VIRUS AND A NANITE INFESTATION ARE NOT THE SAME THING. Yet the episode treats them like both.
** "Crash" is one of the silliest episodes in the entire series (though interestingly, it comes immediately before "Haunted", which has an almost identical premise- one of the team gets infected with a mind altering agent and starts hallucinating- but is one of the darkest episodes in the entire series), so you probably shouldn't think too hard on it. For a possible explanation, let's assume that under normal circumstances the virus is just an ordinary (albeit nasty) computer virus, but it gained the ability to infect other machines through touch/create nanites/transmit itself through signals as a result of hijacking Cyborg's extremely advanced systems. But ultimately, it's not supposed to make sense.
* The ending of "Employee of the Month" where Cyborg apparently eats The Source doesn't make a lot of sense. Firstly, Cyborg absolutely ''hates'' tofu and anything tofu-related; he can even tell soy-eggs and soy-milk at a single taste and reacts with disgust, so why would he take a bite out of what is quite obviously a block of raw tofu? Secondly, the Source is a sapient being in its own right and quite capable of talking; how the heck could Cyborg have even looked at it hungrily before it started screaming for mercy? Unless being refrigerated put it to sleep or something... even then, that doesn't count for the fact it looks like a block of tofu, which Cyborg regards as "inedible".
** Well, it was established throughout the episode that The Source wasn't producing tofu, it was producing "nufu", which is presumably a much more accurate meat substitute made from something alien. Cyborg had eaten at their cover restaurant several times, so, presumably, he couldn't tell the difference.
*** Except when Cyborg ate "nufu", it was in the shape of fried burger patties (and "meat chips"), so he didn't realize what it was. The Source, in comparison, looks like a stereotypical block of raw cold tofu, something Cyborg should be very familiar with, seeing as how he sees them in the fridge all the time because of Beast Boy. Even with barbeque sauce on it, Cyborg ought to take one look at it and then pass it over in disgust.
* Slade's choice of a SupervillainLair in season 2 was really stupid, if you think about it. First, he builds it on a volcano. Alright, evil lairs on volcanos are cool, and it might not be an active volcano, but then he proceeds to bring into that lair a girl with earth manipulation powers, who CANNOT CONTROL THOSE POWERS VERY WELL, and train her there. Then he starts using the place as mission control, and also as a place to beat her up if she failed him, which is totally a good idea because if she ever tries to kill him she has a goddamn volcano below them that she can use. Really, Slade?
** It's possible that his choice of lair wasn't as stupid as it seems. First, he gave Terra that special suit which interfaced with her nervous system and allowed him control over her body. Much like with Robin and the nanites, he probably didn't expect her to be able to overcome that. Indeed, the first time we see Terra try to remove the suit, she's unable to do so. Second, choosing an extinct volcano was part of [[SinkOrSwimMentor helping Terra learn to control her powers.]] Terra has two options when they first move in to their little cave: [[DieOrFly control her powers, or else.]]


*** Another possibility is that Beast Boys just needed companionship to avoid slipping into depression. He is a SadClown that has lost a LOT in his life, trying to make people laugh is and being the but of jokes is the only way he knows how to cling to the few friends he has. Without a team, he just can't function.
* Remember the future was altered by Starfire leaving at that precise point in their lives. Remember also that most of the team has a tendency to withdraw from others when upset and Beast Boy lacks the maturity and sensitivity to reunite them after such a devastating loss. Cyborg got depressed and fell behind on his upgrades because he didn't see the point anymore, perfectly in character. Raven withdrew, likely after they were forced to deal with Trigon and the others just let her go because their relationship had degraded to the point where they couldn't really claim a close bond anymore. Beast Boy and Robin, lacking he other three just went back to what they were doing before. However while Robin was raised to be competent and independent, Beast Boy was....not. He's hideously insecure, has very poor judgement, requires outside validation and is used to working with others. It makes perfect sense for Robin to succeed and for Beast Boy to fail and give up.

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*** Another possibility is that Beast Boys Boy just needed companionship to avoid slipping into depression. He is a SadClown that has lost a LOT in his life, trying to make people laugh is and being the but of jokes is the only way he knows how to cling to the few friends he has. Without a team, he just can't function.
* Remember the future was altered by Starfire leaving at that precise point in their lives. Remember also that most of the team has a tendency to withdraw from others when upset and Beast Boy lacks the maturity and sensitivity to reunite them after such a devastating loss. Cyborg got depressed and fell behind on his upgrades because he didn't see the point anymore, perfectly in character. Raven withdrew, likely after they were forced to deal with Trigon and the others just let her go because their relationship had degraded to the point where they couldn't really claim a close bond anymore. Beast Boy and Robin, lacking he the other three just went back to what they were doing before. However while Robin was raised to be competent and independent, Beast Boy was....not. He's hideously insecure, has very poor judgement, requires outside validation and is used to working with others. It makes perfect sense for Robin to succeed and for Beast Boy to fail and give up.



*** On the other cases... Starfire fell to her doom, but we never see her hit anything. She could have flown just before going-'''SPALT''' Beast boy and Cyborg were thrown into a chasm of some sort, We don't know what was at the bottom, they could have survived that. In fact, the only person that I can actually question as to how they survived is Robin...

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*** On the other cases... Starfire fell to her doom, but we never see her hit anything. She could have flown just before going-'''SPALT''' going-'''SPLAT''' Beast boy Boy and Cyborg were thrown into a chasm of some sort, We don't know what was at the bottom, they could have survived that. In fact, the only person that I can actually question as to how they survived is Robin...



** Because Terra isn't good at making choices or thinking things through. It's her FatalFlaw that she can't take responsibility for her mistakes, up unto the very end. She tries to bury Cyborg and Beast Boy alive, forgetting that Beast Boy can turn into any animal that digs, which means he could have easily tunneled himself and Cyborg out. Raven can't die yet because Trigon needs her alive for his prophecy. Robin probably saved Starfire after she fell into the ocean, and she's shown to be MadeOfIron, so the only one unaccounted for is Robin, who probably showed up at the fight with insurance.



* Cyborg's maintenance costs must be through the roof. The CoolCar is probably at least comparable. They not only have their own tower, but they payed extra to give it the structural support necessary to have it be top-heavy, just to go with their T theme. A moped is pocket change. Why not just give Beast Boy one?

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* Cyborg's maintenance costs must be through the roof. The CoolCar is probably at least comparable. They not only have their own tower, but they payed paid extra to give it the structural support necessary to have it be top-heavy, just to go with their T theme. A moped is pocket change. Why not just give Beast Boy one?




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* The simple answer: Beast Boy doesn't want to use the Titans' funds for his moped. He wants to earn it.



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* Also, just as Raven was beginning to accept hope that maybe her friends could HoldTheLine, Trigon engaged in MindRape; [[ParanoiaFuel he reveals he can get into her mind whenever he likes because of their relation]], and starts browbeating her about how her friends will die for nothing. Raven starts begging for her friends' lives, and isn't in the most rational state of mind when she surrenders to Slade's army; it's highly possible that Trigon could have done worse to her mind. It's her love for her friends that saves them, because she uses her last bit of power to protect them.




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** It's implied that Robin saved Starfire before going after Terra, so he knew that at least one of his friends was alive. He was also showing mercy to her because he knew what it was like to be under Slade's hold, and was offering her one last chance at redemption. Given he survived her attempt to murder him, Robin probably went with some insurance -- say a demon girl in blue with healing powers, or the Titan that can shapeshift into digging animals.



* In Only Human, Cyborg believes his physical limits are tied to his mechanical body. So why does he train with weights? His cybernetic limbs can't rebuild themselves like organic ones can, and without that feature he's just putting unnecessary wear on his body.

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* In Only Human, Cyborg believes his physical limits are tied to his mechanical body. So why does he train with weights? His cybernetic limbs can't rebuild themselves like organic ones can, and without that feature he's just putting unnecessary wear on his body.body.
** A, just because he has cybernetic limbs doesn't mean that he ignores exercise for his human ones. Oracle mentions that she had to train for a year after the Joker shot her to keep her muscles from atrophying, and she was paralyzed from the waist down.
** B, Cyborg makes it clear he misses his old life before the accident that turned him into "Robotman 2.0" as an excited Beast Boy put it. Doing weights allows him to regain some semblance of routine. We could argue that Starfire doesn't need to train because her strength comes from feeling confidence, but she still exercises with the team.



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* Slade works on getting an apprentice to inherit his legacy even before he has a proper legacy. When he gets one in Robin and later Terra he spends all his time watching and micromanaging them from his lair rather than lead the charge himself. When Terra flees from a fight he stops everything to discipline her even when his mooks are being destroyed and the enemy is at his door. Finally, he takes to tormenting Raven with glee despite the relative simplicity of the task he's given. As creepy as it sounds, I think acquiring, tormenting, and breaking heroic teenagers is more the end than the means to one. Slade is motivated by a dry ephebophilia to which power and conquest are a distant second.


** I took the white light to be a manifestation of her emotions: of her human side which Trigon lacked. This ties into Cyborg's defeat of Bro. Blood because he still possessed a human element that seems to be a supernatural factor. Raven's demonic abilities were no match for Trigon but her human half lent her strength. And on the subject of Trigon's Physical Godliness: [[Franchise/DevilMayCry "You assume that humans are weak. Okay, yeah, their bodies lack the physical ability of a demon. But humans possess something that demons don't."]]

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** I took the white light to be a manifestation of her emotions: of her human side which Trigon lacked. This ties into Cyborg's defeat of Bro. Blood because he still possessed a human element that seems to be a supernatural factor. Raven's demonic abilities were no match for Trigon but her human half lent her strength. And on the subject of Trigon's Physical Godliness: [[Franchise/DevilMayCry [[VideoGame/DevilMayCry "You assume that humans are weak. Okay, yeah, their bodies lack the physical ability of a demon. But humans possess something that demons don't."]]



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* Raven's locked in a white room, wearing a white cloak, with diminishing sanity. I think the audience is meant to assume she went to extreme measures to make sure Trigon wouldn't come, ignoring the toll it would take on her.




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** My guess is that tofu would be more widely recognized by the show's intended demographic. Beast Boy's vegetarianism is also only relevant when it's used to grate Cyborg and Raven.




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** Trigon's usually depicted as a universe-buster in the comics, requiring acts of God or Plot to bring him down. Superman's powers vary between writers and arcs, but it'd probably be a tall order to ask him to solo a god powered by one of the three things he's specifically vulnerable to.




[[WMG: In Fractured, why were only Beast Boy and Starfire affected by reality breaking?]]

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\n** Robin's gambit revolves around believing that Slade would consider being forced to kill Robin as a greater concession of defeat than letting them go. That is, Robin put Slade in a lose-lose situation and made him pick which defeat was less humiliating for him. Luckily enough for the team, Slade chose to spare them.

[[WMG: In Fractured, why were only Beast Boy and Starfire affected by reality breaking?]]breaking?]]

[[WMG: Why does Cyborg bother with weight training?]]
* In Only Human, Cyborg believes his physical limits are tied to his mechanical body. So why does he train with weights? His cybernetic limbs can't rebuild themselves like organic ones can, and without that feature he's just putting unnecessary wear on his body.


* True, he would have lost an apprentice, but he still could have searched for a new one like Terra. And with the Teen Titans gone, there would've been nothing stopping him from taking over the city. And if Terra never met the Titans, she would have had no friendship bonds with them, and no reason to turn on Slade.

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* True, he would have lost an apprentice, but he still could have searched for a new one like Terra. And with the Teen Titans gone, there would've been nothing stopping him from taking over the city. And if Terra never met the Titans, she would have had no friendship bonds with them, and no reason to turn on Slade.Slade.

[[WMG: In Fractured, why were only Beast Boy and Starfire affected by reality breaking?]]


* Even when I still thought Slade was probably alive (until he was confirmed to have been DeadForReal by his resurrection), some sort of context-sensitive DeadManSwitch seemed far more likely than a haunting.

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* Even when I still thought Slade was probably alive (until he was confirmed to have been DeadForReal by his resurrection), some sort of context-sensitive DeadManSwitch DeadMansSwitch seemed far more likely than a haunting.



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** This is a confusing entry because the creature and the highbreed only barely resemble one another.



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** Terra and Bumblebee don't have them either. It's just a quirk of the art style, albeit a weird one.


* Going a little bit into FetishFuel territory, but how come throughout most the show Starfire doesn't have a navel despite revealing her stomach all the time, but there are rare instances where she is shown with a navel? Was it slip ups or mistakes by the staff? Were they easter-eggs the staff put in on purpose that you had to pay close attention to?

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* Going a little bit into FetishFuel territory, but how How come throughout most the show Starfire doesn't have a navel despite revealing her stomach all the time, but there are rare instances where she is shown with a navel? Was it slip ups or mistakes by the staff? Were they easter-eggs the staff put in on purpose that you had to pay close attention to?


*** To [[{{Tropers/Whitewings}} this troper]], it seems more likely by far that Terra is living the life she's yearned for: One where she can learn who she she actually is, and find some stability and even a measure of happiness. At very worst, her problems aren't getting worse, and at best, she's getting better. It's not really in the realm of probability that she'll never need to take up the mantle of Terra again, but maybe next time, she'll be able to deal with it more gracefully.

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*** To [[{{Tropers/Whitewings}} this troper]], it It seems more likely by far that Terra is living the life she's yearned for: One where she can learn who she she actually is, and find some stability and even a measure of happiness. At very worst, her problems aren't getting worse, and at best, she's getting better. It's not really in the realm of probability that she'll never need to take up the mantle of Terra again, but maybe next time, she'll be able to deal with it more gracefully.



* Repeated emphasis on "children-oriented" aside, the show wasn't big on explaining things. A good chunk of the Brotherhood of Evil hadn't been seen prior, and most of the existing ones didn't really ''have'' a story beyond their clashes with the Titans. In short, Wykkyd's a one-shot villain among other villains - a cool one that might have benefited from more exposition, but it;s not that kind of show.

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* Repeated emphasis on "children-oriented" aside, the show wasn't big on explaining things. A good chunk of the Brotherhood of Evil hadn't been seen prior, and most of the existing ones didn't really ''have'' a story beyond their clashes with the Titans. In short, Wykkyd's a one-shot villain among other villains - a cool one that might have benefited from more exposition, but it;s it's not that kind of show.



** ACTUALLY if you really really want to fit it in the DCAU you can put it before Batman:TAS because in B:TAS Robin is college age but in Teen Titans he's about high school age. And we know from the B:TAS episode "Robin's Reckoning" that Dick Grayson has been Robin since he was like 9. It's entirely possible that around the time he was 15 he decided to go solo and mmove to Jump City and then he went back to Gotham to attend college at Gotham University at the time B:TAS takes place. To aadd to that in the episode Lightspeed Kid Flash is voiced by Michael Rosenbaum, the same actor who voiced Flash in the Justice League which builds on the idea of Teen Titans being a prequel to the DCAU.

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** ACTUALLY if you really really want to fit it in the DCAU you can put it before Batman:TAS because in B:TAS Robin is college age but in Teen Titans he's about high school age. And we know from the B:TAS episode "Robin's Reckoning" that Dick Grayson has been Robin since he was like 9. It's entirely possible that around the time he was 15 he decided to go solo and mmove move to Jump City and then he went back to Gotham to attend college at Gotham University at the time B:TAS takes place. To aadd to that in the episode Lightspeed Kid Flash is voiced by Michael Rosenbaum, the same actor who voiced Flash in the Justice League which builds on the idea of Teen Titans being a prequel to the DCAU.



* The Doom Patrol were meant to be seen as negative counterparts to the Titans, what they could be if they grew up the wrong way. (Mento = Robin as a total JerkAss of a leader, Elasticgirl = Starfire as completely submissive, Robot Man = Cyborg without humanity, and Negative Man = Raven as truly gloomy and without emotional development. And then there's Beast Boy, who's problem is that he's played both teams.)

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* The Doom Patrol were meant to be seen as negative counterparts to the Titans, what they could be if they grew up the wrong way. (Mento = Robin as a total JerkAss of a leader, Elasticgirl Elasti-girl = Starfire as completely submissive, Robot Man = Cyborg without humanity, and Negative Man = Raven as truly gloomy and without emotional development. And then there's Beast Boy, who's problem is that he's played both teams.)



*** If you WATCH the episode Homecoming when Elastigirl reveals Beast Boy's real name its clear the other Titans didn't know iit before

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*** If you WATCH the episode Homecoming when Elastigirl reveals Beast Boy's real name its clear the other Titans didn't know iit it before



** Let's start with Starfire. In order to fly, you have to think of something joyful. To use starbolts, you need "righteous fury", and for her superhuman strength, "boundless confidence". It's easy to imagine how confidence and joy could go hand-in-hand, but what about starbolts? Is it even possible to feel righteous fury and joy simultaneously? At any rate, Starfire has flown/used starbolts whilst clearly feeling other emotions as well. A very good example is "Can I keep him?" when she leaves Silky - she's clearly upset and confused, yet she's still able to fly? Now Raven's powers. It's shown that they're very volatile, and can easily go out of control. For the most part, this remains consistent (with the notable exception of "Deep Six"). However, in "Car Trouble" she tells Cyborg that she has to put part of her soul into whatever she's manipulating. But if that's the case, Starfire shouldn't have been able to use her powers at all! After all, Raven's soul wasn't inside her body, and her soul does represent her dark powers,so how could Starfire have access to them? If anything, Raven should have been able to "control" Starfire by using her soul and focusing it on her...

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** Let's start with Starfire. In order to fly, you have to think of something joyful. To use starbolts, you need "righteous fury", and for her superhuman strength, "boundless confidence". It's easy to imagine how confidence and joy could go hand-in-hand, but what about starbolts? Is it even possible to feel righteous fury and joy simultaneously? At any rate, Starfire has flown/used starbolts whilst clearly feeling other emotions as well. A very good example is "Can I keep him?" when she leaves Silky - she's clearly upset and confused, yet she's still able to fly? Now Raven's powers. It's shown that they're very volatile, and can easily go out of control. For the most part, this remains consistent (with the notable exception of "Deep Six"). However, in "Car Trouble" she tells Cyborg that she has to put part of her soul into whatever she's manipulating. But if that's the case, Starfire shouldn't have been able to use her powers at all! After all, Raven's soul wasn't inside her body, and her soul does represent her dark powers,so powers, so how could Starfire have access to them? If anything, Raven should have been able to "control" Starfire by using her soul and focusing it on her...



* If Beast boy can turn into alien animals, and has human (albeit his natural green human form) why doesn't he turn into a sentient alien, say Tamaranian or even more impressivingly a Kryptonian. Is there a rule in his powers he can't turn into sentient species? I know he probably has not met Superman and Supergirl (if they exist in this universe) but at the very least he met many Tamaranians, that would be a very useful transformation, and Starfire could help teach him the ropes.

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* If Beast boy can turn into alien animals, and has human (albeit his natural green human form) why doesn't he turn into a sentient alien, say Tamaranian or even more impressivingly impressively a Kryptonian. Is there a rule in his powers he can't turn into sentient species? I know he probably has not met Superman and Supergirl (if they exist in this universe) but at the very least he met many Tamaranians, that would be a very useful transformation, and Starfire could help teach him the ropes.

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