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** The fairies, and Maleficent, have their pride too. Letting Stefan falsely brag about having conquered their fiercest protector would've been demeaning in the extreme. Plus, the old king had a personal grudge against Maleficent as well as a suspicious mind, and would have no doubt insisted on tangible physical proof of her defeat.
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*** And giving their war queen back her power of flight will make it a whole lot harder to ''really'' conquer the Moors. All those gem-filled pools and fertile land for the taking, y'know?
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* So, according to the voice-over, this is the story as we've never been told or some such, implying the 'original' Disney movie is the current accepted tale. At the end of this movie, [[spoiler: King Stefan is dead, and the queen as well]]. Who spread the original tale, then?
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** Iron can hurt her, but it does not provide protection from her magic, as she demonstrated very clearly when she telekinetically tossed around a bunch of Stefan's armored soldiers. This is why Stefan's eventual trap [[spoiler: involved an iron net and ''lots'' of soldiers with huge shields to fence her in along with spears and arrows to attack from a distance]]. Sure, he could have tried to have a go at her, or ordered his guards to. But she would have just massacred them. Stefan just wasn't brave enough, or self-sacrificing enough, to make a suicidal attack on Maleficent even to save his baby daughter.
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** Iron can hurt her, but it does not provide protection from her magic, as she demonstrated very clearly when she telekinetically tossed around a bunch of Stefan's armored soldiers. This is why Stefan's eventual trap [[spoiler: involved an iron net and ''lots'' of soldiers with huge shields to fence her in along with spears and arrows to attack from a distance]].distance. Sure, he could have tried to have a go at her, or ordered his guards to. But she would have just massacred them. Stefan just wasn't brave enough, or self-sacrificing enough, to make a suicidal attack on Maleficent even to save his baby daughter.
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**Another theory is that fairy babies are like human babies, except they're not as needing as human babies are (why the fairies are pretty neglectful by human standards).
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** In MaleficentMistressofEvil, Queen Ingrith is the one who spread the original story.
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**In MaleficentMistressofEvil, Queen Ingrith is the one who spread the original story.
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** People made thread on hand spindles for thousands of years before spinning wheels were invented. Textile workers just had to go back to the older methods when the mechanized versions were allowed.
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** For all Stefan knew, fairy wings just don't mummify or rot once they're amputated. It's likely that no one human - perhaps even no one fairy - knows that such wings can be re-attached; else, you'd expect Stefan to have arranged for the ''wings'' to "accidentally" get burned to ash, same as he tried to destroy the spinning wheels.
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** Heck, so far as Stefan's supporters knew, fairies might be capable of coming back from the dead.
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*** Maybe her ''birth'' name was [[WesternAnimation/OwlHouse Edith]] was essentially ''also'' means "war queen".
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*** Maybe her ''birth'' name was [[WesternAnimation/OwlHouse Edith]] was [[Disney/OwlHouse Edith]], as it ''too'' essentially ''also'' means "war queen".
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*** This troper got the impression that the other faeries were mostly humoring Maleficent in that scene, because they felt terribly bad for her having lost her wings. If acting submissive in her presence and putting up with a darker motif will help her cope with her maiming, they'll go along with it for a while; it's not as if she was actually ''giving orders'' to anyone but Diaval on-screen. Certainly once she'd spent enough time with Aurora to recover from the sulks, the other faeries seemed thrilled that their war chieftain was finally cheering up.
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*** This troper got the impression that the The other faeries were mostly humoring Maleficent in that scene, because they felt terribly bad for her having lost her wings. If acting submissive in her presence and putting up with a darker motif will help her cope with her maiming, they'll go along with it for a while; it's not as if she was actually ''giving orders'' to anyone but Diaval on-screen. Certainly once she'd spent enough time with Aurora to recover from the sulks, the other faeries seemed thrilled that their war chieftain was finally cheering up.
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** To this Troper, it appears as Stefan simply didn‘t forgot about her vulnerability and just remembered it when he glanced at his own dagger in a later scene.
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* Why is this considered a remake? Only one scene from the cartoon was remade, which is the baby cursing.
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** To this Troper, it appears as Stefan simply didn‘t forgot about her vulnerability and just remembered it when he glanced at his own dagger in a later scene.
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** Which is kinda ironic, considering that in the original fairy tale, the princess pricked herself at one of those hand spindles. Which makes a lot more sense, actually, since such spindles have a sharp needle at their base by design (while a spinning wheel in reality lacks such „features“), and getting it stuck in your foot when it fell down was likely a common accident when operating them.
** Which is kinda ironic, considering that in the original fairy tale, the princess pricked herself at one of those hand spindles. Which makes a lot more sense, actually, since such spindles have a sharp needle at their base by design (while a spinning wheel in reality lacks such „features“), and getting it stuck in your foot when it fell down was likely a common accident when operating them.
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**** The first question is easily answered: Both Disney movies got the meaning of „spindle“ wrong. This is by no means a part of a spinning wheel, but its predecessor, i.e. a different, older tool which was used for spinning before the latters invention. And a spindle had a sharp needle at the bottom by design, so that if it fell down (which happened quite often), it would dig itsself into the ground, preventing it from tipping and soiling the freshly spun thread. One can assume that getting said needle to prick ones foot when falling down was also a common accident, and hence inspiration for the curse.
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** It's possible that "cold iron" doesn't just burn the fae. It may also act as a sort of ward preventing fae magic from directly affecting the ones wearing it. So she could, say, turn Diaval into a dragon, or hit someone with a rock, but not use her magic directly on the knights.
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*** Alternatively, they did recognize Maleficent as their leader, in a warchief sense. She doesn't have any control of the daily lives of her people, but is definitely stepping up to the task of defending the interests of her people. They see her maiming as tantamount to humanity marking itself as the enemy of the Fae, and, as such, are planning their fealty in their war queen.
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*** Alternatively, they did recognize Maleficent as their leader, in a warchief sense. She doesn't have any control of the daily lives of her people, but is definitely stepping up to the task of defending the interests of her people. They see her maiming as tantamount to humanity marking itself as the enemy of the Fae, and, as such, are planning placing their fealty in their war queen.
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*** Alternatively, they did recognize Maleficent as their leader, in a warchief sense. She doesn't have any control of the daily lives of her people, but is definitely stepping up to the task of defending the interests of her people. They see her maiming as tantamount to humanity marking itself as the enemy of the Fae, and, as such, are planning their fealty in their war queen.
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**** Every story needs its heroes and do-gooders. It's like people who are lionized for acts of sheer luck or even incompetence, simply because they were there.
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** While I can't say why they didn't have the third fairy give her gift before Maleficent appeared, the reason they couldn't have her modify the curse was because if she could change the terms of it, then there would've been no reason for Maleficent not to be able to when she has a change of heart later in the film. They added in the "This curse will last until the end of time" bit to explain why Maleficent couldn't do anything to change it once she became fond of Aurora, but doing so meant they had to keep the other fairies from doing so as well.
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*** So, these anti-fae zealot loyalists to the king, spun a version of the events as propaganda, taking the three stupid fairies that they saw their king yelling and slapping around and making into heroic and competent characters? Man, those are some nice extremists.
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** What is odd is that this problem had a very simple solution - have the fairy have a normal birth name and then take on the name Maleficient after she was mutilated, as a seal on her ThenLetMeBeEvil deal.
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*** Indeed, the fact that he doesn't actually ''greet'' Aurora by name when she returns, but merely comments on her looks and then has his daughter locked her away in her room, suggests Stefan ''knows'' he'll come to love her if he acknowledges her arrival formally. Thus, he hastily and deliberately gets her out of his sight in an attempt to LoopholeAbuse his way out of actually "meeting" his daughter.
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*** Indeed, the fact that he doesn't actually ''greet'' Aurora by name when she returns, but merely comments on her looks and then has his daughter locked her away in her room, suggests Stefan ''knows'' he'll come to love her if he acknowledges her arrival formally. Thus, he hastily and deliberately gets her out of his sight in an attempt to LoopholeAbuse his way out of actually "meeting" his daughter.the girl.
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*** Indeed, the fact that he doesn't actually ''greet'' Aurora by name when she returns, but merely comments on her looks and then has his daughter locked her away in her room, suggests Stefan ''knows'' he'll come to love her if he acknowledges her arrival formally. Thus, he hastily and deliberately gets her out of his sight in an attempt to LoopholeAbuse his way out of actually "meeting" his daughter.
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** Maleficent's magic may also have been impaired to some degree when her own attempt to forcibly revoke the curse backfired on her. She can still transform Diaval because she's had so much practice at it over the years, but she no longer had it in her to toss iron-clad knights around in a breeze like dead leaves.
