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* In Planet Robobot, was there any reasoning or motive behind Star Dream screwing Susie over so many times, or was it meant to be taken as colossally bad luck for her? For starters, it trapped her inside another dimension when she was just a child, although supplementary material does label that event as an accident. But then when Haltmann tried to get her back, Star Dream erased his memories of her instead, so that he didn’t recognize her once she did return. Then it drafts up a business plan where Susie is the stakeholder for the invasion of Planet Popstar, which gets her fired when Kirby proves to be too much for her, before finally zapping her unconscious when she steals its program controller and tries to use it for herself. I know it’s supposed to be just a computer, but this many catastrophes befalling a single person who didn’t deserve them seems hard to just brush aside as mere happenstance.
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** The impression I got from reading the manual for the original game was that Dedede was of the mindset that he's just smarter than the other Dream Landers and therefore knows what's best and doesn't need to consult with or answer to anyone else. He's mentioned as "nonchalantly" starting to explain what he did with the pieces, before Kirby disregards him as being back to his old habits and embarks on his new adventure without bothering to hear Dedede out.
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** Considering the original Dreamland plot involved King Dedede stealing all the food, I doubt he rules over anything but his own castle. In [[Anime/KirbyOfTheStars the anime]], he does rule over the town, but it doesn't seem to be a legitimate rule. More like "obey me, or else". Which makes Kirby's presence all the more inconvenient for him.
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** Considering the original Dreamland plot involved King Dedede stealing all the food, I doubt he rules over anything but his own castle. In [[Anime/KirbyOfTheStars [[Anime/KirbyRightBackAtYa the anime]], he does rule over the town, but it doesn't seem to be a legitimate rule. More like "obey me, or else". Which makes Kirby's presence all the more inconvenient for him.
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* Wait, does Meta Knight actually have ''two'' golden swords? At the end of Amazing Mirror he leaves his sword behind for future heroes to protect the Mirror World before he leaves, but where does he get the second sword from (i.e. the sword he has in every game after Amazing Mirror)? Either he quickly took his sword back during the events of Squeak Squad and kept it from then on or he had another one on him.
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** Given this was only his, what, second? Third appearance? Maybe its just some Early Installment Weirdness.
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** Who says he did it? Maybe they started fighting without his influence. Its that kind of place.
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** Dream Land (and Pop Star in general) is such a laid back place that they don't really need a king. DeDeDe probably just decided to call himself one, and nobody cared enough to contradict him. As long as they still get to lounge around and eat, who cares?
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* So what's the deal with Parallel Susie and Parallel Landia? As of ''Star Allies'', the Parallel title seems to mean a link to Another Dimension in some way, with the ones in ''Star Allies'' being clones recently made from Jamba Heart fragments, but Susie and Landia don't have any link to the Jamba Heart at all and seem to have their own unique histories and lives. In fact, Parallel Susie seems to be closer to a Mirror World counterpart, especially considering the mech she uses has D-Mind emblems all over it and the prevalence of the Mirror World in her debut game.
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** Maybe it's the counterpart of a training simulation. Probably magic in nature rather than technological, though.
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** Maybe he was hoping that no one would notice that the Star Rod was missing while he was possibly trying to find a solution to the problem on his own because he didn't want to worry anyone about how a horrible monster had arrived? Also, when you previously try to steal all of the food in your kingdom and aren't at the point yet where you've proven yourself to be a [[JerkWithAHeartofGold good person deep down]], it's reasonable to assume that people might not believe you when you say that you've destroyed a sacred artifact for the greater good and instead think you're being a {{Jerkass}} again.
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**** Because Bandana Dee doesn't kill anything unless ''you'', as the player, tell him to. He's not canonically a sociopath for things he only does while under player control. Besides, death is pretty cheap for regular enemies in this series -- no matter what happens to them, they'll always respawn good as new once they're offscreen. And some Waddle Dees ''do'' attack Kirby, for what it's worth.
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*** Because Bandana Dee doesn't kill anything unless ''you'', as the player, tell him to. He's not canonically a sociopath for things he only does while under player control. Besides, death is pretty cheap for regular enemies in this series -- no matter what happens to them, they'll always respawn good as new once they're offscreen. And some Waddle Dees ''do'' attack Kirby, for what it's worth.
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**** Because Bandana Dee doesn't kill anything unless ''you'', as the player, tell him to. He's not canonically a sociopath for things he only does while under player control. Besides, death is pretty cheap for regular enemies in this series -- no matter what happens to them, they'll always respawn good as new once they're offscreen. And some Waddle Dees ''do'' attack Kirby, for what it's worth.
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** Because he felt they wouldn't have believed him?
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* In "Nightmare In Dreamland" we find out at the end that King Dedede [[GoodAllAlong didn't steal the rod of dreams from the fountain to be a jerk, but rather to protect it from the Nightmare once he showed up]]. That said, I have to wonder, why didn't he just tell the citizens of Dreamland "Hey, I found something really scary in the fountain so I'm gonna have to remove the rod of dreams to keep it safe for now" or something like that? [[PoorCommunicationKills then the whole thing could have been avoided]].
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** Susie's comments on Kirby's intelligence aren't meant to be taken as completely accurate - a lot of her character revolves around underestimating Kirby due to seeing him as an uncultured native, and the only time Kirby actually appears confused by her dialogue is when she says he "doesn't understand what it's like to work in a perfectly controlled environment," which wouldn't paint him as unintelligent on its own. I think of him as having the mindset of a little toddler or thereabouts, where he can form very basic words, and can tell from the way someone speaks to him whether they're friend or foe, but doesn't ''really'' understand anything more complicated than that.
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*** That doesn't explain why Bandana Dee is willing to kill waddle dees, including ones that are just having fun at the beach swinging on ropes, or ones in the clouds JUST SITTING IN ONE PLACE AND LOOKING UP AT THE SKY in wonder.
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* Just how much speech can Kirby understand? Whenever he is being spoken to by a villain in a cutscene, he stares back at them with a blank look on his face, as if he's thinking "What's this person's problem?" and fights back when either the villain or someone else attack him. His vocabulary seems to be limited to "Hi!" and in ''Planet Robobot'', Susie mumbles to herself that Kirby can't understand her. But at the same time, he seemed annoyed when she referred to him as an obstacle and did go after the stars when Marx told him to in ''Kirby Super Star'', so I guess he can understand but doesn't care to communicate back?
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* Just how much speech can Kirby understand? Whenever he is being spoken to by a villain in a cutscene, he stares back at them with a blank look on his face, as if he's thinking "What's this person's problem?" and fights back starts fighting when either the villain or someone else attack him. His vocabulary seems to be limited to "Hi!" and in ''Planet Robobot'', Susie mumbles to herself that Kirby can't understand her. But at the same time, he seemed annoyed mad when she referred to him as an obstacle earlier and did go after the stars on a quest to summon Nova when Marx told him to in ''Kirby Super Star'', so I guess he can understand but doesn't care to communicate back?
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* Just how much speech can Kirby understand? Whenever he is being spoken to by a villain in a cutscene, he stares back at them with a blank look on his face, as if he's thinking "What's this person's problem?" and fights back when either the villain or someone else attack him. His vocabulary seems to be limited to "Hi!" and in ''Planet Robobot'', Susie mumbles to herself that Kirby can't understand her. But at the same time, he seemed annoyed when she referred to him as an obstacle and did go after the stars when Marx told him to in ''Kirby Super Star'', so I guess he can understand but doesn't care to communicate back?
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** This trooper wouldn't be surprised if Kirby hasn't developed object permanence yet. (Or whatever it's called.) So he doesn't realize there are other slices of cake he can go after, as he thinks the one that was stolen is the only one there was. If he ever saw another slice somewhere, he might assume that it's the same as the original.
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** If Nova was without an actual consciousness (''Planet Robobot'' implies that it's equivalent to a computer's AI), then it's no different than someone disarming a bomb before it detonates. If Nova ''did'' have a consciousness, then that means it could've chosen not to grant Marx's wish but did so anyway, making it far from an innocent character.
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* This is something that always bothered me: In Milky Way Wishes Kirby destroys the Galactic Nova as well as Marx. The problem is the Galactic Nova had no choice but to grant Marx's wish so isn't he basically innocent?
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* This is something that's been in the back of this troper's head since they beat the game, what the hell happened to Hyness and the Jambastion Mages at the end of ''Star Allies''? We see them get spit out of [[spoiler:Void Termina]] and then they just disappear after that? Plus, the Jambastion Mages have their normal skin colors back, meaning that they aren't under Hyness' control and they all are flailing their arms, showing they are all still alive. Seeing as the last games show what happened to the villains, it's a little jarring.
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* This is something that's been in the back of this troper's head since they beat the game, what the hell happened to Hyness and the Jambastion Mages at the end of ''Star Allies''? We see them get spit out of [[spoiler:Void Termina]] and then they just disappear after that? Plus, the Jambastion Mages have their normal skin colors back, meaning that they aren't under Hyness' control and they all are flailing their arms, showing they are all still alive. Seeing as the last games show what happened to the villains, it's a little jarring.jarring.
* In ''Super Star'', how ''did'' Marx get the sun and the moon to fight in the first place?
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* In ''Super Star'', how ''did'' Marx get the sun and the moon to fight in the first place?
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** It's popular Fanon, but there's nothing official.
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* This is something that's been in the back of this troper's head since they beat the game, what the hell happened to Hyness and the Jambastion Mages at the end of ''Star Allies''? We see them get spit out of [[spoiler:Void Termina]] and then they just disappear after that? Plus, the Jambastion Mages have their normal skin colors back, meaning that they aren't under Hyness' control and they all are flailing their arms, showing they are all still alive. Seeing as the last games show what happened to the villains, it's a little jarring.
* This is something that's been in the back of this troper's head since they beat the game, what the hell happened to Hyness and the Jambastion Mages at the end of ''Star Allies''? We see them get spit out of [[spoiler:Void Termina]] and then they just disappear after that? Plus, the Jambastion Mages have their normal skin colors back, meaning that they aren't under Hyness' control and they all are flailing their arms, showing they are all still alive. Seeing as the last games show what happened to the villains, it's a little jarring.
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* Is the Waddle Dee character who appeared in ''Kirby 64'' the same Banadana Waddle Dee from ''Return to Dream Land'', ''Planet Robobot'' and so forth? Kirby already seems to be somewhat friendly with him even before his DefeatMeansFriendship moment.
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** It's popular Fanon, but there's nothing official.
** It's popular Fanon, but there's nothing official.
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** This troper believes it's either the 'big cannon' or the laser cannon.
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** PragmaticVillainy. If Susie didn't give Kirby a mech, Star Dream would have destroyed everything. Also, she still takes part in the invasion of Popstar, tries to destroy Kirby by herself and [[spoiler:has Meta Knight mechanised.]]
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** He was fixing the Halberd at the bottom of the Secret Sea.
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** I don't think enemies in the Kirby games die. I mean, if you go right for 5 meters and then return, the same enemy is still there, all healthy.
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** I like to think of it as Meta Knight having staged his takeover to make sure Kirby would be ready to face future challenges. It was another test, which is why he again offered Kirby a sword (a thing he didn't do in Mouse Attack when he fought him seriously). Kirby just turned out to be too potent, completely destroying the Halberd in the process.
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* In Kirby Super Star, why does the Halberd have a Main Cannon #2, but no Main Cannon #1?
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* In Kirby Super Star, why does the Halberd have a Main Cannon #2, but no Main Cannon #1?#1?
* Is the Waddle Dee character who appeared in ''Kirby 64'' the same Banadana Waddle Dee from ''Return to Dream Land'', ''Planet Robobot'' and so forth? Kirby already seems to be somewhat friendly with him even before his DefeatMeansFriendship moment.
* Is the Waddle Dee character who appeared in ''Kirby 64'' the same Banadana Waddle Dee from ''Return to Dream Land'', ''Planet Robobot'' and so forth? Kirby already seems to be somewhat friendly with him even before his DefeatMeansFriendship moment.
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** [[{{Badass}} That's]] [[RuleOfCool exactly]] [[CoolMask That's exactly why.]]
