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* Why exactly does Mark only blame Godzilla for his son’s death? Obviously Godzilla did unintentionally cause a considerable amount of damage in San Fransisco but why doesn’t Mark ever consider that it could have been the actively hostile MUTO’s that were to blame for Andrew’s death?, the opening doesn’t specify one way or the other which creature killed him either intentionally or not and with only Mark’s word to go on it seems a little biased and illogical for him to pin all the blame on Godzilla.

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* Why exactly does Mark only blame Godzilla for his son’s death? Obviously Godzilla did unintentionally cause a considerable amount of damage in San Fransisco but why doesn’t Mark ever consider that it could have been the actively hostile MUTO’s that were to blame for Andrew’s death?, the opening doesn’t specify one way or the other which creature killed him either intentionally or not and with only Mark’s word to go on it seems a little biased and illogical for him to pin all the blame on Godzilla.
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* Why exactly does Mark only blame Godzilla for his son’s death? Obviously Godzilla did unintentionally cause a considerable amount of damage in San Fransisco but why doesn’t Mark ever consider that it could have been the actively hostile and malicious MUTO’s that were to blame for Andrew’s death?, the opening doesn’t specify one way or the other which creature killed him either intentionally or not and with only Mark’s word to go on it seems a little biased and illogical for him to pin all the blame on Godzilla.

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* Why exactly does Mark only blame Godzilla for his son’s death? Obviously Godzilla did unintentionally cause a considerable amount of damage in San Fransisco but why doesn’t Mark ever consider that it could have been the actively hostile and malicious MUTO’s that were to blame for Andrew’s death?, the opening doesn’t specify one way or the other which creature killed him either intentionally or not and with only Mark’s word to go on it seems a little biased and illogical for him to pin all the blame on Godzilla.
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* Why exactly does Mark only blame Godzilla for his son’s death? Obviously Godzilla did unintentionally cause a considerable amount of damage in San Fransisco but why doesn’t Mark ever consider that it could have been the actively hostile and far more destructive MUTO’s that were to blame for Andrew’s death?, the opening doesn’t specify one way or the other which creature killed him either intentionally or not and with only Mark’s word to go on it seems a little biased and illogical for him to pin all the blame on Godzilla.

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* Why exactly does Mark only blame Godzilla for his son’s death? Obviously Godzilla did unintentionally cause a considerable amount of damage in San Fransisco but why doesn’t Mark ever consider that it could have been the actively hostile and far more destructive malicious MUTO’s that were to blame for Andrew’s death?, the opening doesn’t specify one way or the other which creature killed him either intentionally or not and with only Mark’s word to go on it seems a little biased and illogical for him to pin all the blame on Godzilla.
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* Why exactly does Mark seems to only blame Godzilla for his son’s death? Obviously Godzilla did unintentionally caused a considerable amount of damage in San Fransisco but why doesn’t Mark ever consider that it could have been the actively hostile and far more destructive MUTO’s that were to blame for Andrew’s death?, the opening doesn’t specify one way or the other which creature killed him either intentionally or not and with only Mark’s word to go on it seems a little biased and illogical for him to pin all the blame on Godzilla.

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* Why exactly does Mark seems to only blame Godzilla for his son’s death? Obviously Godzilla did unintentionally caused cause a considerable amount of damage in San Fransisco but why doesn’t Mark ever consider that it could have been the actively hostile and far more destructive MUTO’s that were to blame for Andrew’s death?, the opening doesn’t specify one way or the other which creature killed him either intentionally or not and with only Mark’s word to go on it seems a little biased and illogical for him to pin all the blame on Godzilla.
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* Why exactly does Mark seems to only blame Godzilla for his son’s death? I understand that Godzilla caused a considerable amount of unintentional damage in San Fransisco but why doesn’t he ever consider that it could have been the actively hostile and far more destructive MUTO’s that were to blame for Andrew’s death?, the opening doesn’t specify one way or the other which creature killed him intentionally or not and with only Mark’s word to go on it seems a little biased and illogical for him to pin all the blame on Godzilla.

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* Why exactly does Mark seems to only blame Godzilla for his son’s death? I understand that Obviously Godzilla did unintentionally caused a considerable amount of unintentional damage in San Fransisco but why doesn’t he Mark ever consider that it could have been the actively hostile and far more destructive MUTO’s that were to blame for Andrew’s death?, the opening doesn’t specify one way or the other which creature killed him either intentionally or not and with only Mark’s word to go on it seems a little biased and illogical for him to pin all the blame on Godzilla.
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** As we see with both Rodan (who was imminently overpowered) and Mothra (who only really distracted Ghidorah while Godzilla dealt the heavy blows and ended dying when she tries facing Ghidorah alone). It’s clear other some Titans are willing to challenge or oppose him, however Godzilla is the only Titan actually powerful enough to defeat him.
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* Why exactly was Ghidorah completely defenseless when Godzilla dragged him underwater? Couldn't he fire of his gravity beams in self-defence, which would have been useful since water conducts electricity and would be more harmful to Godzilla there?
** answering both questions here. It's not that ghidorah couldn't use his powers or was drowning, it's how ghidorah fights. Notice when the fought in Antarctica, Godzilla was able to overpower ghidorah quickly and push him closer to the hole he popped out, he also over powered him when drug him under water and kept him from escaping. Ghidorah is constantly fighting Godzilla from the edge of his greater range, using his flight to create small retreats to allow him to more safety attack the physically stronger but smaller Godzilla, similar to a fight between a boxer and a slugger. When Godzilla finally got a solid hold on ghidorah's body, ghidorah freaks out and even fires bolts at random because he can no longer put a controllable distance between him and Godzilla. His fears are pretty quickly confirmed as Godzilla starts to dismember him and even the director confirmed ghidorah was going to die if not for the interference of the OD.
*** Godzilla did not overpower Ghidorah in Antarctica at all. He bit and choke slammed one head but got his butt kicked throughout the rest of the fight entirely. Ghidorah is clearly stronger on the land. Godzilla was better in combat in the water which is why Ghidorah, who was also ambushed, was panicking and losing.

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* Why exactly was Ghidorah completely defenseless when Godzilla dragged him underwater? Couldn't he fire of his gravity beams in self-defence, which would have been useful helpful since water conducts electricity and would be more harmful to Godzilla there?
** answering Answering both questions here. It's not that ghidorah Ghidorah couldn't use his powers or was drowning, drowning; it's how ghidorah Ghidorah fights. Notice when the fought in Antarctica, Godzilla was able to overpower ghidorah Ghidorah quickly and push him closer to the hole he popped out, he also over powered him when drug him under water and kept him from escaping. Ghidorah is constantly fighting Godzilla from the edge of his greater range, using his flight to create small retreats to allow him to more safety attack the physically stronger but smaller Godzilla, similar to a fight between a boxer and a slugger. When Godzilla finally got a solid hold on ghidorah's Ghidorah's body, ghidorah Ghidorah freaks out and even fires bolts at random because he can no longer put a controllable distance between him and Godzilla. His fears are pretty quickly confirmed as Godzilla starts to dismember him and even the director confirmed ghidorah Ghidorah was going to die if not for the interference of the OD.
*** Godzilla did not didn't overpower Ghidorah in Antarctica at all. He bit and choke slammed choke-slammed one head but got his butt kicked throughout the rest of the fight entirely.fight. Ghidorah is clearly stronger on the land. Godzilla was better in combat in the water which is why water, so Ghidorah, who was also ambushed, was panicking and losing.



** Godzilla only bit Ni and slammed him once the rest is him getting curb-stomped. He gets bitten when choke slamming Ni and when they grapple in the next shot we see of the fight he gets bitten and forced back by Ni towards the Osprey not Godzilla forcing Ghidorah back. He gets blasted on the ground, blasted again and then blasted into the hole. He ran away because the military shot him and surprised him (he’d never been hit with missiles before). Ghidorah won the Arctic fight and Boston fight (round one against normal Godzilla) even though Godzilla was supercharged, had help from Mothra and got an early hit. Ghidorah is clearly stronger and beat him in 3/4 of the fights we know they had. Ghidorah was only losing under water because he got ambushed and was panicking not to mention water is Godzilla’s advantage on land and in the air Ghidorah is clearly superior.

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** Godzilla only bit Ni and slammed him once the rest is him getting curb-stomped. He gets bitten when choke slamming Ni and when they grapple in the next shot we see of the fight he gets bitten and forced back by Ni towards the Osprey not Godzilla forcing Ghidorah back. He gets blasted on the ground, blasted again fired again, and then blasted into the hole. He ran away because the military shot him and surprised him (he’d never been hit with missiles before). Ghidorah won the Arctic fight and Boston fight (round one against normal Godzilla) even though Godzilla was supercharged, had help from Mothra and got an early hit. Ghidorah is clearly stronger and beat him in 3/4 of the fights we know they had. Ghidorah was only losing under water because he got ambushed and was panicking not to mention water is Godzilla’s advantage on land and in the air Ghidorah is clearly superior.



** It's worth noting that in real life examples of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polycephaly "multi-headed" life]] (more accurately conjoined twins), control is split between each head, with each usually controlling one half of the full body.

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** It's worth noting that in real life real-life examples of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polycephaly "multi-headed" life]] (more accurately conjoined twins), control is split between each head, with each usually controlling one half of the full body.



** Alternately, the heads are just appendages for sensing and fighting, with the ''real'' control center being located in the body. At most, they'd have the marginal independence of an octopus's tentacles. The "bickering" heads could be a side effect of each head having reflexive ganglia that drive them to get snappy when foiled, sometimes even at each other, in the same way a human might give themselves a stinging slap on their left arm by reflexively swatting at a mosquito with their right palm.
*** There might actually be something to this theory, since the director outright stated Ghidorah has his neurons scattered throughout his body and limbs like an octopus, though there are a couple bits that seem to be disproven and need to be cleared up. The director seems to lean towards the idea that Ghidorah's heads do indeed have independent minds, and looking at the heads closely in the film shows that each head exhibits its own distinct personality beyond just "slapping himself". It's also worth noting in relation to this, Kevin does retain the same personality and memories when regenerated as he did pre-decapitation (see the appropriate folder on [[WMG/MonsterVerse MonsterVerse WMG]] for more on that and on how that mechanic might work if Ghidorah's biology is octopus-like). Now onto the main question of how Ghidorah's body locomotes with three minds: besides the above "neural node" explanation, if Ghidorah's three heads are somewhat similar to an octopus' tentacles, then perhaps Ghidorah has a fourth "octopus brain" inside the body. But unlike the heads' three minds, the "octopus brain" is more rudimentary, serving the function of coordinating the movements of the rest of Ghidorah's body in relation to what the three heads want to do, while preventing or minimizing conflict in Ghidorah's movements, in the event the heads disagree or the left head gets distracted. Similar to a scientific study indicating that an octopus' brain can, with time, get the semi-independent tentacles "in line" as it were if the octopus' eyes and brain are aware of something which the tentacles' sensors can't detect.

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** Alternately, the heads are just appendages for sensing and fighting, with the ''real'' control center being located in the body. At most, they'd have the marginal independence of an octopus's tentacles. The "bickering" heads could be a side effect of each head having reflexive ganglia that drive them to get snappy when foiled, sometimes even at each other, in the same way a human might give themselves a stinging slap on their left arm by reflexively swatting at a mosquito with their right palm.
*** There might actually be something to this theory, since the director outright stated Ghidorah has his neurons scattered throughout his body and limbs like an octopus, though there are a couple bits that seem to be disproven and need to be cleared up. The director seems to lean towards the idea that Ghidorah's heads do indeed have independent minds, and minds; looking at the heads them closely in the film shows that each head exhibits its own distinct personality beyond just "slapping himself". It's also worth noting in relation to this, Kevin does retain the same personality exact nature and memories when regenerated as he did pre-decapitation (see the appropriate folder on [[WMG/MonsterVerse MonsterVerse WMG]] for more on that and on how that mechanic might work if Ghidorah's biology is octopus-like). Now onto the main central question of how Ghidorah's body locomotes with three minds: besides the above "neural node" explanation, if Ghidorah's three heads are somewhat similar to an octopus' tentacles, then perhaps Ghidorah has a fourth "octopus brain" inside the body. But unlike the heads' three minds, the "octopus brain" is more rudimentary, serving the function of coordinating the movements of the rest of Ghidorah's body in relation to what the three heads want to do, while preventing or minimizing conflict in Ghidorah's movements, actions, in the event the heads disagree or the left head gets distracted. Similar to a scientific study indicating that an octopus' brain can, with time, get the semi-independent tentacles "in line" as it were if the octopus' eyes and brain are aware of something which the tentacles' sensors can't detect.



* Godzilla's BigDamnHeroes moment to save Madison from Ghidorah looks awesome, but he somehow hit a direct blast at him from some distance away? How far away can he use it effectively? And why not just fight Ghidorah from a distance, perhaps try to incapacitate him with his atomic breath from further away before moving in for the kill?
** Godzilla can fire from quite a distance (we don't know his max), but unless its a surprise attack then the further away he fires from the bigger the chance his opponent can just move out of the way (amounting to a vast waste of energy for Godzilla). And as we saw in their first fight, Ghidorah is quite capable of dodging if he sees the attack coming.

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* Godzilla's BigDamnHeroes moment to save Madison from Ghidorah looks awesome, fantastic, but he somehow hit a direct blast at him from some distance away? How far away can he use it effectively? And why not just fight Ghidorah from a distance, perhaps try to incapacitate him with his atomic breath from further away before moving in for the kill?
** Godzilla can fire from quite a distance (we don't know his max), but unless its a surprise attack then attack, the further away he fires from the bigger the chance his opponent can just move out of the way (amounting to a vast waste of wasted energy for Godzilla). And as we saw in their first fight, Ghidorah is quite capable of dodging if he sees the attack coming.



** And given how utterly cataclysmic ONE Ghidorah is to all life on earth, how would have an ''entire species'' of them have thrived and survived on the planet without wiping everything else to extinction?
** Well, Ghidorah lived in ancient times when the Earth was populated by equally powerful monsters, so there was an equilibrium in their ecosystem. Also, they could go for the classic Showa era Ghidorah (it's interesting that the viral website does reffer to him as "Monster Zero") and make him an extraterrestrial being.

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** And given how utterly cataclysmic ONE Ghidorah is to all life on earth, Earth, how would have an ''entire species'' of them have thrived and survived on the planet without wiping everything else to extinction?
** Well, Ghidorah lived in ancient times when the Earth was populated by equally powerful monsters, monsters populated the Earth so there was an equilibrium in their ecosystem. Also, they could go for the classic Showa era Showa-era Ghidorah (it's interesting that the viral website does reffer refer to him as "Monster Zero") and make him an extraterrestrial being.



** It's easy to miss, but it's explained in the film that Ghidorah is actually an alien kaiju from another planet who wound up stranded here. They don't go into ''how'' that happened, but, yeah, Ghidorah is so alien and cataclysmic because he's ''literally'' an alien, and he wants to forcibly terraform Earth to his liking.

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** It's easy to miss, but it's explained in the film that Ghidorah is actually an alien kaiju from another planet who wound up stranded here. They don't go into ''how'' that happened, but, yeah, Ghidorah is so alien strange and cataclysmic because he's ''literally'' an alien, and he wants to forcibly terraform Earth to his liking.liking forcibly.



*** Ghidora being a SingleSpecimenSpecies isn't a definite even in classical material. He was like that at first, but in later installments they revealed that there are in fact other Ghidoras.
* The novelazation claims he’s a younger son who would not get territory and came to earth to claim his own territory. So yes they are more members of him if the novel can be trusted.

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*** Ghidora Ghidorah being a SingleSpecimenSpecies isn't a definite even in classical material. He was like that at first, but in later installments they revealed that there are in fact other Ghidoras.
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* The novelazation novelization claims he’s a younger son who would not get territory and came to earth Earth to claim his own territory. So yes yes, they are more members of him if one can trust the novel can be trusted.novel.



** Kevin (the left head) seems to be more eager than the other two heads when they're draining Mothra's radiation out of Godzilla. Depending on AlternativeCharacterInterpretation, this could mean Kevin is a PsychopathicManchild, that he just enjoys fighting like several Titans but is getting carried away, that he loves eating the radiation and isn't restraining himself like the other heads, or that he holds a grudge over Godzilla ripping his head off in the ocean.

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** Kevin (the left head) seems to be more eager than the other two heads when they're draining Mothra's radiation out of Godzilla. Depending on AlternativeCharacterInterpretation, this could mean Kevin is a PsychopathicManchild, that he just PsychopathicManchild who enjoys fighting like several Titans but is getting carried away, that he away. He loves eating the radiation and isn't restraining himself like the other heads, or that he holds a grudge over Godzilla ripping his head off in the ocean.



** Likely he's the most eager to fight and the smartest in combat. When the middle head roars out a challenge to Godzilla the right head's QuizzicalTilt can be seen as him sizing up his opponent and trying to analyze the situation, and later before Ghidorah flees the Antarctica battle, the right head can be seen spitefully shaking his head. He's also the first to notice important things in battle, such as the speakers in Fenway Park or the electrical transformer.

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** Likely he's the most eager to fight and the smartest in combat. When the middle head roars out a challenge to Godzilla the right head's QuizzicalTilt can be seen as him sizing up his opponent and trying to analyze the situation, and later before Ghidorah flees the Antarctica battle, the right head can be seen spitefully shaking his head. He's also the first to notice important essential things in battle, combat, such as the speakers in Fenway Park or the electrical transformer.



* Godzilla's hidden resting place is a highly-radioactive area deep within the earth where he goes to recover from his wounds. But given the hostility of the place, how did ancient humans even build the temple without being roasted by the extreme radiation?

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* Godzilla's hidden resting place is a highly-radioactive area deep within the earth Earth where he goes to recover from his wounds. But given Given the hostility of the place, how did ancient humans even build the temple without being roasted by the extreme radiation?radiation roasting them?



* The temple and the city surrounding it is a MythologyGag to Seatopia, an underwater civilization who worshipped kaijus (seen in Godzilla vs Megalon). A prequel surrounding it would perhaps be useful for the MonsterVerse.

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* The temple and the city surrounding it is a MythologyGag to Seatopia, an underwater civilization who worshipped kaijus (seen in Godzilla vs Megalon). A prequel surrounding it would perhaps be useful helpful for the MonsterVerse.



* So Mothra hatched as a larva, pupated, and emerged as an adult all in the span of one day? Justified in the original films, as she is explicitly magical, but in the more realistic setting of the Monsterverse it kinda sticks out. Especially since it took the male Muto 15 years to pupate.

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* So Mothra hatched as a larva, pupated, and emerged as an adult all in the span of one day? Justified in the original films, as she is explicitly magical, but in the more realistic setting of the Monsterverse it kinda sticks out. Especially out, especially since it took the male Muto [=MUTO=] 15 years to pupate.



* At the very end where the Titans all bow before Godzilla, how many are present? There's Rodan, Behemoth (the mammoth-ape), Scylla (the spider), Methuselah (the mountain creature) and a female MUTO. Are there more in the scene?

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* At the very end where the Titans all bow before Godzilla, how many are present? There's Rodan, Behemoth (the mammoth-ape), Scylla (the spider), Methuselah (the mountain creature) and a female MUTO.[=MUTO=]. Are there more in the scene?



* One of the new Titans awakened was a Female MUTO, whose presence Godzilla tolerates and who actively bows before Godzilla. Aren't the two species natural enemies? Wouldn't they try to kill each other on sight?
** Presumably with no male around there is no risk of her reproducing. Its also possible that the 2014 MUTO were only such a threat because they were a new generation that knew nothing about the balance of power that currently existed among the Titans. The female MUTO in the movie may know her place and proper behavior.
** That seems likely, as the New MUTO bows to Godzilla, whereas the two in the 2014 film openly challenged and attacked him. Maybe Godzilla's beef with them had nothing to do with their attempt at reproducing, but because they were openly defiant to his power.
* So where was she during the first movie? How come she wasn't responding to the male MUTO's mating calls like the other female MUTO, are they monogamous and only breed with their assigned "sibling"?

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* One of the new Titans awakened was a Female MUTO, [=MUTO=], whose presence Godzilla tolerates and who actively bows before Godzilla.him. Aren't the two species natural enemies? Wouldn't they try to kill each other on sight?
** Presumably with no male around there is no risk of her reproducing. Its also possible that the 2014 MUTO [=MUTO=] were only such a threat because they were a new generation that knew nothing about the balance of power that currently existed among the Titans. The female MUTO [=MUTO=] in the movie may know her place and proper behavior.
** That seems likely, as the New MUTO [=MUTO=] bows to Godzilla, whereas the two in the 2014 film openly challenged and attacked him. Maybe Godzilla's beef with them had nothing to do with their attempt at reproducing, but because they were openly defiant to his power.
* So where was she during the first movie? How come she wasn't responding to the male MUTO's [=MUTO=]'s mating calls like the other female MUTO, [=MUTO=], are they monogamous and only breed with their assigned "sibling"?



** She was probably within the hollow earth at the time, remember the other two were taken above ground by Monarch, perhaps she was too far away to hear the call, or as put above they are monogamous, the two in the previous movie did seem rather... taken with each other, either that or it's a first response gets the guy.
** The new MUTO looks different from the other two (grey skin, different crest and two fewer legs) so it's probable that it's a different sub-species of MUTO that may lack the parasitic reproductive method of the other kind and has no animosity towards Godzilla's species.

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** She was probably within the hollow earth Hollow Earth at the time, remember the other two were taken above ground by Monarch, perhaps she was too far away to hear the call, or as put above they are monogamous, the two in the previous movie did seem rather... quite taken with each other, either that or it's a first response gets the guy.
** The new MUTO [=MUTO=] looks different from the other two (grey skin, different crest and two fewer legs) so it's probable that it's a different sub-species of MUTO [=MUTO=] that may lack the parasitic reproductive method of the other kind and has no animosity towards Godzilla's species.



** To the first question, it seems likely her scales did something. Fans seem divided on whether it was the nuke or Mothra that enabled Godzilla's burning form. As for why Ghidorah would drain Godzilla, he wants all the power he can get, plus he recognizes the danger that energy may pose. He may also simply have to weaken Godzilla via the draining before he can have a chance of killing him.

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** To the first question, it seems likely her scales did something. Fans seem divided on whether it was the nuke or Mothra that enabled Godzilla's burning form. As for why Ghidorah would drain Godzilla, he wants all the power he can get, plus he recognizes the danger that energy may pose. He may also simply have to weaken Godzilla via the draining before he can have a chance of killing him.



* In the final scene, how come Ghidorah's middle head isn't vaporized by Godzilla's atomic pulses unlike the other two? And it seems that this head was still alive even after being severed from the body!
** Perhaps its made of tougher stuff than the rest of the body? Perhaps the center head is the "true" body of Ghidorah's species, the rest of it just an extension that grows from it. Or perhaps its simply a reference to how the first head of the hydra of Greek mythology was immortal. There are several possibilities.

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* In the final scene, how come GGodzilla's atomic pulses don't vaporize Ghidorah's middle head isn't vaporized by Godzilla's atomic pulses head, unlike the other two? And it seems that this head was still alive even after being severed from the body!
** Perhaps its made of tougher sterner stuff than the rest of the body? Perhaps the center head is the "true" body of Ghidorah's species, the rest of it just an extension that grows from it. Or perhaps its maybe it's simply a reference to how the first head of the hydra of Greek mythology was immortal. There are several possibilities.



* Since the three heads have different personalities, did the regenerated head have a different mind from the lost one, or was it just "respawned"?
** More than likely the latter. It still acted the exact same way as it did before it got decapitated.
** It does start acting more explicitly malicious and aggressive after re-growing though. Perhaps it remembers the trauma of being severed and painfully being reconstructed?

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* Since the three heads have different personalities, did the regenerated head have a different distinct mind from the lost one, or was it just "respawned"?
** More than likely the latter. It still acted the exact same way as it did before it got decapitated.
** It does start acting more explicitly malicious and aggressive after re-growing regrowing, though. Perhaps it remembers the trauma of being severed and painfully being reconstructed?



** It could be an indication of his strength in a way, i.e. the more well fed he is on atomic energy the larger his spines grow. After all, by the end of the first movie he had the fallout from the nuke to feed from and possibly the female MUTO's irradiated corpse as well. Additionally, humans could have been purposly feeding him nuclear waste to keep him away from populated areas, keeping him well fed and allowing his dorsal spines to grow.

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** It could be an indication of his strength in a way, i.e. the more well fed well-fed he is on atomic energy the larger his spines grow. After all, by the end of the first movie he had the fallout from the nuke to feed from and possibly the female MUTO's [=MUTO=]'s irradiated corpse as well. Additionally, humans could have been purposly purposely feeding him nuclear waste to keep him away from populated areas, keeping him well fed and fed, allowing his dorsal spines to grow.



** Welp, if the prequel comic is acknowledged as canon, we now have an in-universe reason as well: a short time after the first film, Godzilla's spines were shattered in a fight with another MUTO. Seems he regrew them over the next five years.
*** And the film provides the way in which he regenerated. It seems whenever Godzilla is badly injured or near death, he retreats to temple hidden in one of the HollowEarth tunnels he uses. This temple is located over some kind of wellspring of radiation, and both allows him to recover and to adapt his body over a period of years to better handle the conditions he is faced with. Its theorized that this is how he was able to live for so much longer than the rest of his species.

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** Welp, if the prequel comic is acknowledged as canon, we now have an in-universe reason as well: a short time after the first film, Godzilla's spines were shattered in a fight with another MUTO. Seems [=MUTO=]. It seems he regrew them over the next five years.
*** And the film provides the way in which he regenerated. It seems whenever Godzilla is badly injured or near death, he retreats to a temple hidden in one of the HollowEarth Hollow Earth tunnels he uses. This temple is located over some kind of wellspring of radiation, and both allows allow him to recover and to adapt his body over a period of years to better handle the conditions he is faced with. Its It's been theorized that this is how he was able to live for so much longer than the rest of his species.



** We'll probably find out how far we're to take the trailer calling them Titans. Obviously the trailer could be over-selling the seriousness due to Doughtery describing humanity's response to kaiju as being over-reacting in an interview. But then again given the director's previous two efforts some are thinking the series is going more literal with this line of thinking.
** The synopsis for the film indicates that another mysterious organization, aside from MONARCH is in play. Perhaps “Titan” is their term for kaiju.
*** WordOfGod confirms that once a creature is identified, the term MUTO no longer applies to it.

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** We'll probably find out how far we're to take the trailer calling them Titans. Obviously Obviously, the trailer could be over-selling the seriousness due to Doughtery describing humanity's response to kaiju as being over-reacting in an interview. But then again given the director's previous two efforts some are thinking the series is going more literal with this line of thinking.
** The synopsis for the film indicates that another mysterious organization, organization aside from MONARCH is in play. Perhaps “Titan” is their term for kaiju.
*** WordOfGod confirms that once a creature is identified, the term MUTO [=MUTO=] no longer applies to it.



** And killing Godzilla was never part of her plan. Again, she had no way of knowing that Ghidorah didn't belong in our ecosystem at any stage, or that he would prove such a match for Godzilla, or that the military had a new weapon which might actually kill either of them. The plan was basically just "let the Titans do what they do," not realizing that what Ghidorah does is "be an OmnicidalManiac."
** It's also stated in one scene that the plan was to introduce the Titans one at a time over the course of weeks. Ghidorah was just the first target to be released after the Orca was completed. All the other Titans awakening and rising was because Ghidorah was calling them as the alpha of the planet.

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** And killing Godzilla was never part of her plan. Again, she had no way of knowing that Ghidorah didn't belong in our ecosystem at any stage, or that he would prove such a match for Godzilla, or that the military had a new weapon which that might actually kill either of them. The plan was basically just "let the Titans do what they do," not realizing that what Ghidorah does is "be an OmnicidalManiac."
** It's also stated in one scene that the plan was to introduce the Titans one at a time over the course of weeks. Ghidorah was just the first target to be released after the Orca was completed. All the other Titans awakening and rising was because Ghidorah was calling them as the alpha of the planet.



** I feel like with all the mess Monarch and the US govt gave the local fisherman in that area, a lot of them probably consider money now far more important than reporting to the "proper authorities".

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** I feel like with all the mess Monarch and the US govt gave the local fisherman in that area, a lot of them probably consider money now far more important than reporting to the "proper authorities".authorities."



** Maybe. They could have figured that it was a "better to beg forgiveness than ask permission" situation. Or maybe they ''did'' ask for permission, without knowing how bad the OD would be (assuming it's as bad as in the original continuity), and Mexico gave it to them. They did mention it was still in development and they were launching early.

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** Maybe. They Maybe they could have figured that it was a "better to beg forgiveness than ask permission" situation. Or maybe they ''did'' ask for permission, without knowing how bad the OD would be (assuming it's as bad as in the original continuity), and Mexico gave it to them. They did mention it was still in development and they were launching early.



** His internal volume is way too small for hot air to contribute any significant buoyancy. It's ArtisticLicensePhysics through and through.

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** His internal volume is way too small for hot air to contribute to any significant buoyancy. It's ArtisticLicensePhysics through and through.



* The video shown at the Monarch court hearing of the MUTO's mating rituals was allegedly the censored version with the genitalia blurred out. Except it's clearly seen in the video that it's the MUTO's ''heads'' that are blurred out. Are they trying to imply [[BizarreAlienBiology that their heads]] ''[[{{Squick}} are in fact their genitalia?]]''

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* The video shown at the Monarch court hearing of the MUTO's [=MUTO=]'s mating rituals was allegedly the censored version with the genitalia blurred out. Except it's clearly seen in the video that it's the MUTO's [=MUTO=]'s ''heads'' that are blurred out. Are they trying to imply [[BizarreAlienBiology that their heads]] ''[[{{Squick}} are in fact their genitalia?]]''



** In ''Aftershocks'', the MUTO Prime's ovipositors extend from her face in the form of tendrils, so it's actually a fun bit of continuity since yes, the implications is the MUTO's reproductive organs ARE in their heads.
** Which is a bit of FridgeBrilliance when you remember that the female MUTO already had fertilized eggs in her clutch, even though the male just touched noses with her and left right away. They actually ''mated'' there, as opposed to just courting.

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** In ''Aftershocks'', the MUTO [=MUTO=] Prime's ovipositors extend from her face in the form of tendrils, so it's actually a fun bit of continuity since yes, the implications is the MUTO's [=MUTO=]'s reproductive organs ARE in their heads.
** Which is a bit of FridgeBrilliance when you remember that the female MUTO [=MUTO=] already had fertilized eggs in her clutch, even though the male just touched noses with her and left right away. They actually ''mated'' there, as opposed to just courting.



* Methuselah, the mountain Titan, was said to have awakened in Munich, Germany. Yet somehow he shows up at Godzilla's coronantion, in ''Boston''? Did he somehow manage to traverse the Atlantic Ocean? Behemoth awoke in Brazil, so he could have traveled up Central America (and perhaps waded through the Panama Canal), while Scylla awoke in Arizona, also in North America, so her travel to Boston on foot also makes sense. But Methuselah, on the other hand...
** We see clearly Behemoth, Scylla, the female Muto, and Rodan. Did we see Methuselah at the gathering too?

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* Methuselah, the mountain Titan, was said to have awakened in Munich, Germany. Yet somehow he shows up at Godzilla's coronantion, coronation, in ''Boston''? Did he somehow manage to traverse the Atlantic Ocean? Behemoth awoke in Brazil, so he could have traveled up to Central America (and perhaps waded through the Panama Canal), while Scylla awoke in Arizona, also in North America, so her travel to Boston on foot also makes sense. But Methuselah, on the other hand...
** We see clearly Behemoth, Scylla, the female Muto, [=MUTO=], and Rodan. Did we see Methuselah at the gathering too?



** He could have swam, or walked along the bottom (and perhaps used a HollowEarth tunnel as a shortcut).

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** He could have swam, or walked along the bottom (and perhaps used a HollowEarth Hollow Earth tunnel as a shortcut).



** He uses a form of communication that they understand, and so it seems due to this and his sheer level of power he counts as a fellow Titan despite his extraterrestrial origin (much as humanity as a whole seems to count as a fellow Titan despite our much more recent origin). As for self preservation, most of the titans have lived through many a extinction event and vast changes in climate. What Ghidorah seeks may be even worse than that, but they may not realize that until it is too late. Plus they all know they lack the strength to oppose him, and would likely just get killed if they tried, so obeying him is self preservation (even if it only extends their lives a bit).
** Another possible factor could lie in his ability to regenerate. His regeneration could also include a remarkable ability to adapt to his surroundings. Since the Titans are arguably the greatest threat in his goal to terraform Earth, he’d need to develop a means to deal with them without going through the difficult task of just killing them all.
** It's a bit WMGing but I think we may be leaving the "animals on instinct" idea behind in this franchise. As it seems like the titans group is made up of last of their kind or only one of their kind organisms, I think they are loyal to a leader more for the sake of "we have no one else" than anything else. When Godzilla calls the shots he has kept them in line and presumably no one could best Godzilla in a fight to be the new alpha. Ghidorah on the other hand could and sees the others more as pawns for his bidding. Mothra appeared to the only one who dared not follow the new alpha, but in reality Ghidorah probably would have executed any of the other titans when he tired of them or they tried to challenge him.

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** He uses a form of communication that they understand, and so it seems due to this and his sheer level of power he counts as a fellow Titan despite his extraterrestrial origin (much as humanity as a whole seems to count as a fellow Titan despite our much more recent origin). As for self preservation, self-preservation, most of the titans Titans have lived through many a extinction event events and vast changes in climate.climate changes. What Ghidorah seeks may be even worse than that, but they may not realize that until it is too late. Plus they all know they lack the strength to oppose him, and would likely just get killed if they tried, so obeying him is self preservation (even if it only extends their lives a bit).
** Another possible factor could lie in his ability to regenerate. His regeneration could also include a remarkable ability to adapt to his surroundings. Since the Titans are arguably the greatest threat in his goal to terraform Earth, Earth he’d need to develop a means to deal with them without going through the difficult task of just killing them all.
** It's a bit WMGing but I think we may be leaving the "animals on instinct" idea behind in this franchise. As it seems like the titans Titans group is made up of the last of their kind or only one of their kind organisms, I think they are loyal to a leader more for the sake of "we have no one else" than anything else. When Godzilla calls the shots he has kept them in line and presumably no one could best Godzilla in a fight to be the new alpha. Ghidorah on the other hand could and sees the others more as pawns for his bidding. Mothra appeared to the only one who dared not follow the new alpha, but in reality Ghidorah probably would have executed any of the other titans when he tired of them or they tried to challenge him.



* So which head is the most sadistic and which head is the least sadistic? It seems like the latter would go for the right head. But sometimes he has been called the most crazy but other times, due to his tendency to lick dead corpses the left head is considered the most sadistic. But usually the middle is called the evilest of the heads. The right head seems the least sadistic but which head is the least, most and in between in terms of sadisim?

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* So which head is the most sadistic and which head is the least sadistic? It seems like the latter would go for the right head. But sometimes he has been called the most crazy craziest but other times, due to his tendency to lick dead corpses the left head is considered the most sadistic. But usually usually, the middle is called the evilest of the heads. head. The right head seems the least sadistic but which head is the least, most and in between in terms of sadisim?sadism?



** The temple is implied to be where he goes to regenerate when he badly needs to heal and/or adapt himself. However, this doesn't mean its where he spends most of his time, even in dormancy. Being near that much radiation for too long when he doesn't need it may not be healthy for him (much as eating too much can harm any living thing). He has a whole planet worth of HollowEarth tunnels to move through and the natural radiation in the deep sea and underground to feed on, and chances are the nuclear sub just got too close to another spot where he happened to be sleeping/dormant.
** Atlantis is shown to be Godzilla's home for all intents and purposes, but that doesn't mean it's the only place he stays. Especially since his bizarre biology means he doesn't need to eat or sleep like we do. In addition to what the bove has said, it's entirely possible he just picks random sea floors to nest for years at a time.

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** The temple is implied to be where he goes to regenerate when he badly needs to heal and/or adapt himself. However, this doesn't mean its it's where he spends most of his time, even in dormancy. Being near that much radiation for too long when he doesn't need it may not be healthy for him (much as eating too much can harm any living thing). He has a whole planet worth of HollowEarth Hollow Earth tunnels to move through and the natural radiation in the deep sea and underground to feed on, and chances are the nuclear sub just got too close to another spot where he happened to be sleeping/dormant.
** Atlantis is shown to be Godzilla's home for all intents and purposes, but that doesn't mean it's the only place he stays. Especially since his bizarre biology means he doesn't need to eat or sleep like as we do. In addition to what the bove has said, it's entirely possible he just picks random sea floors to nest for years at a time.



* In 2014 Godzilla is shown taking the 15 megaton Castle Bravo blast to the face in the 1950s. He clearly has no ill effects from a much larger bomb. In this movie a presumably smaller one puts him in immediate danger of melting down and exploding. That's.....odd. So in the 1950s he could absorb a much larger bomb without this but in the 2010s a modern one nearly kills him?

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* In 2014 Godzilla is shown taking the 15 megaton Castle Bravo blast to the face in the 1950s. He clearly has no ill effects from a much larger bomb. In this movie movie, a presumably smaller one puts him in immediate danger of melting down and exploding. That's.....odd. So in the 1950s 1950s, he could absorb a much larger bomb without this but in the 2010s a modern one nearly kills him?



** Another possibility is the fact that the nuclear bomb could have been a Neutron Bomb, which are also known as Enhanced Radiation Weapons, they aren't big on yield but they produce a lot more radiation than a regular bomb.
** Based on the apparent size of the explosion and how it completely shattered absolutely massive kaiju scaled architecture the bomb used on Godzilla at the temple is far larger than any nuclear weapon ever detonated or even seriously concepted in the real world. We're talking gigatonnish yields here. Which would ineed make Castle Bravo look like a firecracker.

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** Another possibility is the fact that the nuclear bomb could have been a Neutron Bomb, which are is also known as Enhanced Radiation Weapons, they aren't big on yield but they produce a lot more radiation than a regular bomb.
** Based on the apparent size of the explosion and how it completely shattered absolutely massive kaiju scaled architecture the bomb used on Godzilla at the temple is far larger than any nuclear weapon ever detonated or even seriously concepted in the real world. We're talking gigatonnish yields here. Which would ineed indeed make Castle Bravo look like a firecracker.



* If Rodan is an earth-based creature then how did he survive the Oxygen Destroyer's detonation? He was knocked into the water after Ghidorah defeated him right?

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* If Rodan is an earth-based Earth-based creature then how did he survive the Oxygen Destroyer's detonation? He was knocked into the water after Ghidorah defeated him right?



* If his just [[WalkingWasteland waltzing around is terraforming the planet]] how is there any record of him existing at all? Assuming Godzilla stopped him in time whenever he tried to destroy Earth, any nearby humans would've been reduced to paste.

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** It's unknown, in the movie they say the old legends claim he fell from the stars but that's it. Perhaps it came hibernating deep inside an asteroid, perhaps aliens purposefuly left it here, our guess is as good as of anybody on MONARCH.
** I think it's worth noting that Ghidorah is an alien super-being that has abilities that quite simply don't exist on Earth, including a HealingFactor that enable it to regenerate parts in minutes, survive being frozen and an Oxygen destroyer that almost killed the strongest thing in the world. It is ''entirely'' possible that he simply flew to Earth through the void of space. Which raises further, more disturbing questions like; Where did he come from? Are there more? Why did he choose Earth?
** The novel states he was a younger son who wouldn’t not get any territory due to being younger and came to Earth to get his own territory.

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** It's unknown, in the movie they say the old legends claim he fell from the stars but that's it. Perhaps it came hibernating deep inside an asteroid, perhaps aliens purposefuly purposefully left it here, our guess is as good as of anybody on MONARCH.
** I think it's worth noting that Ghidorah is an alien super-being that has abilities that quite simply don't exist on Earth, Earth including a HealingFactor that enable enables it to regenerate parts in minutes, survive being frozen frozen, and an Oxygen destroyer that almost killed the strongest thing in the world. It is ''entirely'' possible that he simply flew to Earth through the void of space. Which raises further, more disturbing questions like; questions: Where did he come from? Are there more? Why did he choose Earth?
** The novel states he was a younger son who wouldn’t not get any territory due to being younger and came to Earth to get his own territory.



* OK, I kinda could buy they Ecoterrorists could take by surprise the MONARCH outpost where Mothra was being contained, but it seemed that after that no attempts were made to bolster their defenses (both electronic and physical) and put everybody on a stricter security alert. Bear in mind that Jonah's forces were just a dozen of armed people at most, and yet the Antartica outpost falls so quickly they weren't even able to send a distress signal, and the hacking of the containment measures (something MONARCH already knew was something the terrorists were able to do) in the Isla de Mara outpost went equally fast and unimpeded. Also, the terrorists leave their Osprey right in the front of the Antartica base, and when the MONARCH forces arrive using that same entrance... they ignore the terrorist's only way of escape? Why not leave a couple of guards, or at least do something so any of the hostile forces won't find their escape vehicle up and running just fine?
** Frankly, I thought the same thing and I'll just chalk all that up to poor writing. Apparently Monarch has the full power of several governments and at least the American Military supporting them, but also can't properly protect heir own bases.
** Bluntly Monarch thinks itself a top level organization when in reality it's a very poorly run and thought out exercise in futility.

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* OK, I kinda could buy they Ecoterrorists could take by surprise the MONARCH outpost where Mothra was being contained, but contained. But after that, it seemed that after that no attempts were made to bolster their defenses (both electronic and physical) and put everybody on a stricter security alert. Bear in mind that Jonah's forces were just a dozen of armed people at most, and yet the Antartica Antarctica outpost falls so quickly they weren't even able to send a distress signal, and the hacking of the containment measures (something MONARCH already knew was something the terrorists were able to do) in the Isla de Mara outpost went equally fast and unimpeded. Also, the terrorists leave their Osprey right in the front of the Antartica Antarctica base, and when the MONARCH forces arrive using that same entrance... they ignore the terrorist's only way of escape? Why not leave a couple of guards, or at least do something so any of the hostile forces won't find their escape vehicle up and running just fine?
** Frankly, I thought the same thing thing, and I'll just chalk all that up to poor writing. Apparently Monarch has the full power of several governments and at least the American Military supporting them, but also can't properly protect heir their own bases.
bases adequately.
** Bluntly Monarch thinks of itself as a top level top-level organization when in reality it's a very poorly run and thought out exercise in futility.



** But wouldn’t it be in the scientists’ best interests to make some compromises with their Army security attachment-liaisons? I’d imagine that having criminals (or in this case, a trained, heavily armed, and extremely well funded group of mercenaries/ecoterrorists) kill your friends and colleagues while also doing who knows what with your Titan specimen isn’t exactly in your best interest.
** It seems that Jonah and company went straight to Antarctica and that is one of the most isolated locations on the planet. It's possible they simply didn't have ''time'' to boost their security, as people arriving to back them up isn't exactly the simplest task and the base was completely off the record, meaning MONARCH probably didn't realize Jonah knew it existed. As for Isla de Mara, it wasn't actually taken over or directly attacked: they were hacked and their containment protocols deactivated just long enough for Rodan to be released. Both of these is likely due to Emma being a high ranking MONARCH scientist and MONARCH not realizing until after Rodan is freed she's on the bad guy's side rather than just a hostage.

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** But wouldn’t it be in the scientists’ best interests to make some compromises with their Army security attachment-liaisons? attachment liaisons? I’d imagine that having criminals (or (or, in this case, a trained, heavily armed, and extremely well funded highly well-funded group of mercenaries/ecoterrorists) kill your friends and colleagues while also doing who knows what with your Titan specimen isn’t exactly in your best interest.
** It seems that Jonah and company went straight to Antarctica and that is Antarctica, one of the most isolated locations on the planet. It's possible they simply didn't have ''time'' to boost their security, as people security. People arriving to back them up isn't exactly the simplest task and most straightforward task; the base was completely also entirely off the record, meaning so MONARCH probably didn't realize Jonah knew it existed. As for Isla de Mara, it wasn't actually taken over or directly attacked: they were hacked got hacked, and their containment protocols deactivated just long enough for Rodan to be released. Both of these is likely due to Emma being a high ranking MONARCH scientist and MONARCH not realizing until after Rodan is freed she's on the bad guy's side rather than just a hostage.



* Shouldn't there be more Titans willing to stand up to Ghidorah like Kong?
** As far as we know, Kong was the ''only'' monster besides Godzilla and Mothra (one being a rival alpha and the other being a symbiotic species loyal only to Godzilla’s kind) that could resist Ghidorah’s alpha song, mainly because he just couldn’t care less about what happens in the world. He’s content to live in peace on Skull Island and [[HeroicNeutral only gets involved when it directly affects him]]. That being said, Ghidorah’s song seems to have awakened something on Skull Island which we’ll see in the sequel.

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* Shouldn't there be more Titans be willing to stand up to Ghidorah Ghidorah, like Kong?
** As far as we know, Kong was the ''only'' monster besides Godzilla and Mothra (one being a rival alpha and the other being a symbiotic species loyal only to Godzilla’s kind) that could resist Ghidorah’s alpha song, mainly because he just couldn’t care less about what happens in the world. He’s content to live in peace on Skull Island Island, and [[HeroicNeutral only gets involved when it directly affects him]]. That being said, Ghidorah’s song seems to have awakened something on Skull Island Island, which we’ll see in the sequel.



* Graham mentions that Outpost 32 has DNA samples stored in a lab. If they extracted and analyzed Ghidorah's genetic material, shouldn't it have clued them in that Ghidorah isn't from Earth, or at least made them aware that it's unlike any other Titan or non-Titan lifeform on the planet, so Ghidorah's BizarreAlienBiology would've been less of a curveball for Monarch?
** To be fair, Ghidorah can use the Alpha Call, and ALL titans seem to have some form of BizarreAlienBiology, Mothra can go from Larva to Moth in days and has ResurrectiveImmortality, Rodan is Burning Hot, Methuselah is a Planimal, Scylla is AnIcePerson, most of the titans have some secondary ability that makes them something other than gigantic animals, Even the MUTO's look more alien than him, and they are terrestrial beings, Monarch probably wrote it off as just another weirdo for the menagerie, rather than "Holy Crap, ALIEN", Ghidorahs DNA would at best, probably tell them nothing but the regeneration, which the sample might not have been conclusive to how strong they were, and the neurons scattered through the body thing, which most Cephalopod's have.

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* Graham mentions that Outpost 32 has DNA samples stored in a lab. If Suppose they extracted and analyzed Ghidorah's genetic material, shouldn't material. Shouldn't it have clued them in that Ghidorah isn't from Earth, Earth or at least made them aware that it's unlike any other Titan or non-Titan lifeform on the planet, so Ghidorah's BizarreAlienBiology would've been less of a curveball for Monarch?
** To be fair, Ghidorah can use the Alpha Call, and Call. ALL titans Titans seem to have some form of BizarreAlienBiology, BizarreAlienBiology: Mothra can go from Larva to Moth in days and has ResurrectiveImmortality, ResurrectiveImmortality; Rodan is Burning Hot, Hot; Methuselah is a Planimal, and Scylla is AnIcePerson, most AnIcePerson. Most of the titans Titans have some secondary ability that makes them something other than gigantic animals, Even animals; even the MUTO's [=MUTO=]'s look more alien than him, and they are terrestrial beings, beings. Monarch probably wrote dismissed it off as just another weirdo for the menagerie, rather than "Holy Crap, ALIEN", ALIEN," Ghidorahs DNA would at best, probably tell them nothing but the regeneration, which the sample might not have been conclusive to how strong they were, and the neurons scattered through the body thing, which most Cephalopod's cephalopods have.



* In the final battle, its shown that the Russell family home is in Boston. If so, why was the family in San Francisco during the events of the first film?

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* In the final battle, its it's shown that the Russell family home is in Boston. If so, why was the family in San Francisco during the events of the first film?film's events?



* The novelization explains that Emma got a job offer that required the family to move to San Francisco.



* During Emma Russell's big speech, she's speaking through a live feed, but during this live feed it cuts to video footage. How is that possible? It cuts to this as if it was edited in beforehand, when there is no way you can do that with a live web broadcast, a News station or TV station yes, but not a live web call.

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* During Emma Russell's big speech, she's speaking through a live feed, but during this live feed it, it cuts to video footage. How is that possible? It cuts to this as if it was edited put in beforehand, beforehand when there is no way you can it's impossible to do that with a live web broadcast, broadcast. Yes, a News news station or TV station yes, station, but not a live web call.
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** If this Ghidorah is anything like the Japanese incarnations, flying through space under his own power is very common for him, implying he has never needed oxygen to live.
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** From what we got in the film it looks like so far we are to take it they were worshiped like gods and we don't completely understand them. However Ghidorah is pretty much completely alien and bizarre and Mothra is handled in many ways that makes one question how much RealityEnsues is still with the franchise going forward. The next film has promises to explore more of the origins, so perhaps we will get a more full-blown explanation next year.

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** Mark states when talking to Vivienne that immediately after Andrew's death, the family at first went "back home to Boston" and tried to get through the grief together, before Mark and Emma's marriage collapsed and Mark moved to the Colorado mountains.

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* This really bugs me. If you ask yourself why Godzilla and Mothra didn't kill King Ghidorah instead of simply putting him on ice, then you realize the entire film itself was completely pointless. It shows that the studio was in such a hurry to shove arguably the greatest Godzilla villain ever into his second film that they forgot that very same detail.
** The simplest answer is that they couldn't. Remember to get to the position where they killed Ghidorah required Godzilla to literally take a nuke to the face! The circumstances and conditions on Earth during their last fight simply did not give Godzilla what he needed to finish Ghidorah off but imprisoning him solved the problem.
*** Well there's a vital detail they could have added into the film.
*** While I think they should have included a line about it, there was enough evidence on-screen to draw that conclusion without being explicitly told, so I feel this one can slide.
*** Given Ghidorah's regeneration abilities it's possible they thought that they had killed him originally when they left him frozen last time and it wasn't until it was too late and he'd fully regenerated in the ice that they realized they were wrong. After that they couldn't do anything without freeing him.
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* This really bugs me. If you ask yourself why Godzilla and Mothra didn't kill King Ghidorah instead of simply putting him on ice, then you realize the entire film itself was completely pointless. It shows that the studio was in such a hurry to shove arguably the greatest Godzilla villain ever into his second film that they forgot that very same detail.
** The simplest answer is that they couldn't. Remember to get to the position where they killed Ghidorah required Godzilla to literally take a nuke to the face! The circumstances and conditions on Earth during their last fight simply did not give Godzilla what he needed to finish Ghidorah off but imprisoning him solved the problem.
*** Well there's a vital detail they could have added into the film.
*** While I think they should have included a line about it, there was enough evidence on-screen to draw that conclusion without being explicitly told, so I feel this one can slide.
*** Given Ghidorah's regeneration abilities it's possible they thought that they had killed him originally when they left him frozen last time and it wasn't until it was too late and he'd fully regenerated in the ice that they realized they were wrong. After that they couldn't do anything without freeing him.
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** To be fair, Ghidorah can use the Alpha Call, and ALL titans seem to have some form of BizarreAlienBiology, Mothra can go from Larva to Moth in days and has ResurrectiveImmortality, Rodan is Burning Hot, Methuselah is a Planimal, Scylla is AnIcePerson, most of the titans have some secondary ability that makes them something other than gigantic animals, Even the MUTO's look more alien than him, and they are terrestrial beings, Monarch probably wrote it off as just another weirdo for the menagerie, rather than "Holy Crap, ALIEN", Ghidorahs DNA would at best, probably tell them nothing but the regeneration, which the sample might not have been conclusive to how strong they were, and the neurons scattered through the body thing, which most Cephalopod's have.
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** Amongst the three heads, he can be seen near-constantly curling his lips in a silent snarl.

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** Amongst the three heads, he can be seen near-constantly curling his lips in a silent snarl. Also, it doesn't really come across in the film, but according to the mo-cap actors who portrayed Ghidorah's heads, the right head wishes he was the trio's leader instead of the middle head, and they think he's more unpredictable than the other two.

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*** There might actually be something to this theory, since the director outright stated Ghidorah has his neurons scattered throughout his body and limbs like an octopus, though there are a few holes that need explaining. The director seems to lean towards the idea that Ghidorah's heads do indeed have independent minds, and looking at the heads closely in the film shows that each head exhibits its own distinct personality beyond just "slapping himself". Furthermore, from what this troper knows, octopus limbs possess partial independence from the brain because two-thirds of the octopus' neurons are outside the brain and distributed in the limbs: if Ghidorah's heads had different personalities because the neurons were focused in them, then logically the left head that grew back should've behaved a bit more differently from the head that got severed due to new neurons for that head being grown. Some viewers argue that Kevin became more malicious after his head was regrown, but looking closely shows he still has some of the same personality at the Boston battle as he did pre-decapitation, such as getting distracted and sporting somewhat docile-seeming facial cues compared to the other two heads. Plus the director said in the same statement where he compared Ghidorah's biology to an octopus that the regrown Kevin head does indeed retain the memories and personality of the original. So there are two possible explanations this troper can think of for this:
--->(1) Ghidorah probably has ganglia inside its body that house the majority of each head's individual personality and memories, and these personalities are relayed from there to each of the heads, instead of the neurons inside the actual heads being where the heads' personalities are bunched up. Now, this explanation isn't without its holes in relation to canon information: the Monarch website states Ghidorah's heads each have a brain (or an organ similar enough to terrestrial organisms' brains to be mistaken for one), and scans of the lobes' cognitive density lead Monarch to suspect even before Ghidorah is freed that each of its heads have a level of cognitive individuality. Perhaps Ghidorah has some kind of complex network involved where specific information in the heads' individual brains are relayed to and through the neurons and ganglia in the main body, enable Ghidorah to "back up" each head's personality like a computer file on a backup stick, in the event that the head is severed.
--->(2) Each of Ghidorah's heads has a different personality not because of mere individuality or slightly differing experiences in relation to each-other, but because they're designed and programmed to be that way. Basically, each head's lobe has a unique structure which directly affects the head's personality, so that each head can serve a different function for the overall creature, and Ghidorah's DNA is programmed to grow or regrow the head's brain that way. And whilst the heads have their own lobes and personalities, and probably a bunching of neurons in the heads and necks which give them independent thought just like an octopus' tentacles, Ghidorah probably has a single shared memory bank inside its body which all three heads' sensory input feeds into. Hence explaining how Ghidorah's body stores Kevin's memories for when his head is regenerated, while the lobe structure explains how the regrown Kevin retains the same personality.
*** Now onto the issue of how Ghidorah's body locomotes with three minds in relation to this, as was the original question: besides the above "neural node" explanation, perhaps Ghidorah has a fourth "brain" inside the body which is more rudimentary than the neural source of the heads' three minds. This fourth brain serves the function of coordinating the movements of the rest of Ghidorah's bodies in relation to what the three heads want to do, while preventing or minimizing conflict in the event the heads disagree or the left head gets distracted; similar to a scientific study indicating that an octopus' brain can, with time, get the semi-independent tentacles' neurons "in line" as it were, if the octopus' eyes and brain are aware of something which the tentacles' sensors can't detect.

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*** There might actually be something to this theory, since the director outright stated Ghidorah has his neurons scattered throughout his body and limbs like an octopus, though there are a few holes couple bits that seem to be disproven and need explaining.to be cleared up. The director seems to lean towards the idea that Ghidorah's heads do indeed have independent minds, and looking at the heads closely in the film shows that each head exhibits its own distinct personality beyond just "slapping himself". Furthermore, from what this troper knows, octopus limbs possess partial independence from the brain because two-thirds of the octopus' neurons are outside the brain and distributed It's also worth noting in the limbs: if Ghidorah's heads had different personalities because the neurons were focused in them, then logically the left head that grew back should've behaved a bit more differently from the head that got severed due relation to new neurons for that head being grown. Some viewers argue that this, Kevin became more malicious after his head was regrown, but looking closely shows he still has some of does retain the same personality at the Boston battle and memories when regenerated as he did pre-decapitation, such as getting distracted pre-decapitation (see the appropriate folder on [[WMG/MonsterVerse MonsterVerse WMG]] for more on that and sporting somewhat docile-seeming facial cues compared to the other two heads. Plus the director said in the same statement where he compared on how that mechanic might work if Ghidorah's biology to an octopus that the regrown Kevin head does indeed retain the memories and personality of the original. So there are two possible explanations this troper can think of for this:
--->(1) Ghidorah probably has ganglia inside its body that house the majority of each head's individual personality and memories, and these personalities are relayed from there to each of the heads, instead of the neurons inside the actual heads being where the heads' personalities are bunched up. Now, this explanation isn't without its holes in relation to canon information: the Monarch website states Ghidorah's heads each have a brain (or an organ similar enough to terrestrial organisms' brains to be mistaken for one), and scans of the lobes' cognitive density lead Monarch to suspect even before Ghidorah
is freed that each of its heads have a level of cognitive individuality. Perhaps Ghidorah has some kind of complex network involved where specific information in the heads' individual brains are relayed to and through the neurons and ganglia in the main body, enable Ghidorah to "back up" each head's personality like a computer file on a backup stick, in the event that the head is severed.
--->(2) Each of Ghidorah's heads has a different personality not because of mere individuality or slightly differing experiences in relation to each-other, but because they're designed and programmed to be that way. Basically, each head's lobe has a unique structure which directly affects the head's personality, so that each head can serve a different function for the overall creature, and Ghidorah's DNA is programmed to grow or regrow the head's brain that way. And whilst the heads have their own lobes and personalities, and probably a bunching of neurons in the heads and necks which give them independent thought just like an octopus' tentacles, Ghidorah probably has a single shared memory bank inside its body which all three heads' sensory input feeds into. Hence explaining how Ghidorah's body stores Kevin's memories for when his head is regenerated, while the lobe structure explains how the regrown Kevin retains the same personality.
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octopus-like). Now onto the issue main question of how Ghidorah's body locomotes with three minds in relation to this, as was the original question: minds: besides the above "neural node" explanation, if Ghidorah's three heads are somewhat similar to an octopus' tentacles, then perhaps Ghidorah has a fourth "brain" "octopus brain" inside the body which is more rudimentary than the neural source of body. But unlike the heads' three minds. This fourth brain serves minds, the "octopus brain" is more rudimentary, serving the function of coordinating the movements of the rest of Ghidorah's bodies body in relation to what the three heads want to do, while preventing or minimizing conflict in Ghidorah's movements, in the event the heads disagree or the left head gets distracted; similar distracted. Similar to a scientific study indicating that an octopus' brain can, with time, get the semi-independent tentacles' neurons tentacles "in line" as it were, were if the octopus' eyes and brain are aware of something which the tentacles' sensors can't detect.

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*** There might actually be something to this theory, since the director outright stated Ghidorah has his neurons scattered throughout his body and limbs like an octopus, though there are a few holes that need explaining. The director seems to lean towards the idea that Ghidorah's heads do indeed have independent minds, and looking at the heads closely in the film shows that each head exhibits its own distinct personality beyond just "slapping himself". Furthermore, from what this troper knows, octopus limbs possess partial independence from the brain because two-thirds of the octopus' neurons are outside the brain and distributed in the limbs: if Ghidorah's heads had different personalities because the neurons were focused in them, then logically the left head that grew back should've behaved a bit more differently from the head that got severed due to new neurons for that head being grown. Some viewers argue that Kevin became more malicious after his head was regrown, but looking closely shows he still has some of the same personality at the Boston battle as he did pre-decapitation, such as getting distracted and sporting somewhat docile-seeming facial cues compared to the other two heads. Plus the director said in the same statement where he compared Ghidorah's biology to an octopus that the regrown Kevin head does indeed retain the memories and personality of the original. So Ghidorah probably has ganglia inside its body that house the majority of each head's individual personality and memories, and these personalities are relayed from there to each of the heads, instead of the neurons inside the actual heads being where the heads' personalities are bunched up. Now, this explanation isn't without its holes in relation to canon information: the Monarch website states Ghidorah's heads each have a brain (or an organ similar enough to terrestrial organisms' brains to be mistaken for one), and scans of the lobes' cognitive density lead Monarch to suspect even before Ghidorah is freed that each of its heads have a level of cognitive individuality. Perhaps Ghidorah has some kind of complex network involved where specific information in the heads' individual brains are relayed to and through the neurons and ganglia in the main body, enable Ghidorah to "back up" each head's personality like a computer file on a backup stick, in the event that the head is severed. Now onto the issue of how Ghidorah's body locomotes with three minds in relation to this, as was the original question: besides the above "neural node" explanation, perhaps Ghidorah has a fourth "brain" inside the body which is more rudimentary than the heads' three brains or the ganglia that backup the heads' minds. This fourth brain serves the function of coordinating the movements of the rest of Ghidorah's bodies in relation to what the three heads want to do, while preventing or minimizing conflict in the event the heads disagree or the left head gets distracted; similar to a scientific study indicating that an octopus' brain can, with time, get the semi-independent tentacles' neurons "in line" as it were, if the octopus' eyes and brain are aware of something which the tentacles' sensors can't detect.

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*** There might actually be something to this theory, since the director outright stated Ghidorah has his neurons scattered throughout his body and limbs like an octopus, though there are a few holes that need explaining. The director seems to lean towards the idea that Ghidorah's heads do indeed have independent minds, and looking at the heads closely in the film shows that each head exhibits its own distinct personality beyond just "slapping himself". Furthermore, from what this troper knows, octopus limbs possess partial independence from the brain because two-thirds of the octopus' neurons are outside the brain and distributed in the limbs: if Ghidorah's heads had different personalities because the neurons were focused in them, then logically the left head that grew back should've behaved a bit more differently from the head that got severed due to new neurons for that head being grown. Some viewers argue that Kevin became more malicious after his head was regrown, but looking closely shows he still has some of the same personality at the Boston battle as he did pre-decapitation, such as getting distracted and sporting somewhat docile-seeming facial cues compared to the other two heads. Plus the director said in the same statement where he compared Ghidorah's biology to an octopus that the regrown Kevin head does indeed retain the memories and personality of the original. So there are two possible explanations this troper can think of for this:
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Ghidorah probably has ganglia inside its body that house the majority of each head's individual personality and memories, and these personalities are relayed from there to each of the heads, instead of the neurons inside the actual heads being where the heads' personalities are bunched up. Now, this explanation isn't without its holes in relation to canon information: the Monarch website states Ghidorah's heads each have a brain (or an organ similar enough to terrestrial organisms' brains to be mistaken for one), and scans of the lobes' cognitive density lead Monarch to suspect even before Ghidorah is freed that each of its heads have a level of cognitive individuality. Perhaps Ghidorah has some kind of complex network involved where specific information in the heads' individual brains are relayed to and through the neurons and ganglia in the main body, enable Ghidorah to "back up" each head's personality like a computer file on a backup stick, in the event that the head is severed. severed.
--->(2) Each of Ghidorah's heads has a different personality not because of mere individuality or slightly differing experiences in relation to each-other, but because they're designed and programmed to be that way. Basically, each head's lobe has a unique structure which directly affects the head's personality, so that each head can serve a different function for the overall creature, and Ghidorah's DNA is programmed to grow or regrow the head's brain that way. And whilst the heads have their own lobes and personalities, and probably a bunching of neurons in the heads and necks which give them independent thought just like an octopus' tentacles, Ghidorah probably has a single shared memory bank inside its body which all three heads' sensory input feeds into. Hence explaining how Ghidorah's body stores Kevin's memories for when his head is regenerated, while the lobe structure explains how the regrown Kevin retains the same personality.
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Now onto the issue of how Ghidorah's body locomotes with three minds in relation to this, as was the original question: besides the above "neural node" explanation, perhaps Ghidorah has a fourth "brain" inside the body which is more rudimentary than the neural source of the heads' three brains or the ganglia that backup the heads' minds. This fourth brain serves the function of coordinating the movements of the rest of Ghidorah's bodies in relation to what the three heads want to do, while preventing or minimizing conflict in the event the heads disagree or the left head gets distracted; similar to a scientific study indicating that an octopus' brain can, with time, get the semi-independent tentacles' neurons "in line" as it were, if the octopus' eyes and brain are aware of something which the tentacles' sensors can't detect.
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*** There might actually be something to this theory, since the director outright stated Ghidorah has his neurons scattered throughout his body like an octopus. The director seems to lean towards the idea that Ghidorah's heads do indeed have independent minds, and looking at the heads closely in the film shows that each head exhibits its own distinct personality beyond just "slapping himself". Perhaps as you said above, Ghidorah is like an octopus in that its heads are semi-independent appendages whilst Ghidorah has a single "brain" of sorts, but with an inversion: in Ghidorah, its with the heads (or at least, the neurons which channel Ichi, Ni and Kevin's minds to the heads) where most of Ghidorah's intelligence and consciousness is focused, whilst the singular "brain" is the rudimentary organ, mainly serving the purpose of enabling Ghidorah's body to perform functions without the heads' bickering and the left head's distractibility compromising its movements.

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*** There might actually be something to this theory, since the director outright stated Ghidorah has his neurons scattered throughout his body and limbs like an octopus.octopus, though there are a few holes that need explaining. The director seems to lean towards the idea that Ghidorah's heads do indeed have independent minds, and looking at the heads closely in the film shows that each head exhibits its own distinct personality beyond just "slapping himself". Perhaps as you said above, Ghidorah is like an Furthermore, from what this troper knows, octopus in that its heads are semi-independent appendages whilst Ghidorah has a single "brain" of sorts, but with an inversion: in Ghidorah, its with limbs possess partial independence from the heads (or at least, brain because two-thirds of the octopus' neurons which channel Ichi, Ni are outside the brain and Kevin's minds to distributed in the heads) where most of limbs: if Ghidorah's intelligence heads had different personalities because the neurons were focused in them, then logically the left head that grew back should've behaved a bit more differently from the head that got severed due to new neurons for that head being grown. Some viewers argue that Kevin became more malicious after his head was regrown, but looking closely shows he still has some of the same personality at the Boston battle as he did pre-decapitation, such as getting distracted and consciousness is focused, whilst sporting somewhat docile-seeming facial cues compared to the singular "brain" is other two heads. Plus the rudimentary organ, mainly serving director said in the purpose same statement where he compared Ghidorah's biology to an octopus that the regrown Kevin head does indeed retain the memories and personality of enabling the original. So Ghidorah probably has ganglia inside its body that house the majority of each head's individual personality and memories, and these personalities are relayed from there to each of the heads, instead of the neurons inside the actual heads being where the heads' personalities are bunched up. Now, this explanation isn't without its holes in relation to canon information: the Monarch website states Ghidorah's heads each have a brain (or an organ similar enough to terrestrial organisms' brains to be mistaken for one), and scans of the lobes' cognitive density lead Monarch to suspect even before Ghidorah is freed that each of its heads have a level of cognitive individuality. Perhaps Ghidorah has some kind of complex network involved where specific information in the heads' individual brains are relayed to and through the neurons and ganglia in the main body, enable Ghidorah to "back up" each head's personality like a computer file on a backup stick, in the event that the head is severed. Now onto the issue of how Ghidorah's body locomotes with three minds in relation to perform functions without this, as was the original question: besides the above "neural node" explanation, perhaps Ghidorah has a fourth "brain" inside the body which is more rudimentary than the heads' bickering and three brains or the ganglia that backup the heads' minds. This fourth brain serves the function of coordinating the movements of the rest of Ghidorah's bodies in relation to what the three heads want to do, while preventing or minimizing conflict in the event the heads disagree or the left head's distractibility compromising its movements.head gets distracted; similar to a scientific study indicating that an octopus' brain can, with time, get the semi-independent tentacles' neurons "in line" as it were, if the octopus' eyes and brain are aware of something which the tentacles' sensors can't detect.
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*** There might actually be something to this theory, since the director outright stated Ghidorah has his neurons scattered throughout his body like an octopus. The director seems to lean towards the idea that Ghidorah's heads do indeed have independent minds, and looking at the heads closely in the film shows that each head exhibits its own distinct personality beyond just "slapping himself". Perhaps Ghidorah's MindHive is essentially an ''inversion'' of octopus tentacles' neural independence: that is, the heads are the main sources (or vehicles) of Ghidorah's intelligence and consciousness, while a more basic "octopus's brain" of sorts controls the rest of the body, enabling Ghidorah to perform functions with its other body-parts without the heads' bickering and the left head's distractibility compromising Ghidorah's movements.

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*** There might actually be something to this theory, since the director outright stated Ghidorah has his neurons scattered throughout his body like an octopus. The director seems to lean towards the idea that Ghidorah's heads do indeed have independent minds, and looking at the heads closely in the film shows that each head exhibits its own distinct personality beyond just "slapping himself". Perhaps Ghidorah's MindHive as you said above, Ghidorah is essentially like an ''inversion'' of octopus tentacles' neural independence: in that is, its heads are semi-independent appendages whilst Ghidorah has a single "brain" of sorts, but with an inversion: in Ghidorah, its with the heads are (or at least, the main sources (or vehicles) neurons which channel Ichi, Ni and Kevin's minds to the heads) where most of Ghidorah's intelligence and consciousness, while a more basic "octopus's brain" of sorts controls consciousness is focused, whilst the rest of singular "brain" is the body, rudimentary organ, mainly serving the purpose of enabling Ghidorah Ghidorah's body to perform functions with its other body-parts without the heads' bickering and the left head's distractibility compromising Ghidorah's its movements.
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*** There might actually be something to this theory, since the director outright stated Ghidorah has his neurons scattered throughout his body like an octopus. The director seems to lean towards the idea that Ghidorah's heads do indeed have independent minds, and looking at the heads closely in the film shows that each head exhibits its own distinct personality beyond just "slapping himself". Perhaps Ghidorah's MindHive is essentially an ''inversion'' of octopus tentacles' neural independence: that is, the heads are the main sources of Ghidorah's intelligence and consciousness, while a more basic "octopus's brain" of sorts controls the rest of the body semi-autonomously, enabling Ghidorah to perform functions with its other body-parts without the heads' bickering and the left head's distractibility compromising Ghidorah's movements.

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*** There might actually be something to this theory, since the director outright stated Ghidorah has his neurons scattered throughout his body like an octopus. The director seems to lean towards the idea that Ghidorah's heads do indeed have independent minds, and looking at the heads closely in the film shows that each head exhibits its own distinct personality beyond just "slapping himself". Perhaps Ghidorah's MindHive is essentially an ''inversion'' of octopus tentacles' neural independence: that is, the heads are the main sources (or vehicles) of Ghidorah's intelligence and consciousness, while a more basic "octopus's brain" of sorts controls the rest of the body semi-autonomously, body, enabling Ghidorah to perform functions with its other body-parts without the heads' bickering and the left head's distractibility compromising Ghidorah's movements.
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*** There might actually be something to this theory, since the director outright stated Ghidorah has his neurons scattered throughout his body like an octopus. The director seems to lean towards the idea that Ghidorah's heads do indeed have independent minds, and looking at the heads closely in the film shows that each head exhibits its own distinct personality beyond just "slapping himself". Perhaps Ghidorah's MindHive is essentially an ''inversion'' of octopus tentacles' neural independence: that is, the heads are the main sources of Ghidorah's intelligence and consciousness, while a more basic "octopus's brain" of sorts controls the rest of the body semi-autonomously, enabling Ghidorah to perform functions with its other body-parts without the heads' bickering and the left head's distractibility compromising Ghidorah's movements.

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