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* In the final scene, how come GGodzilla's atomic pulses don't vaporize Ghidorah's middle head, unlike the other two? And it seems that this head was still alive even after being severed from the body!

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* In the final scene, how come GGodzilla's Godzilla's atomic pulses don't vaporize Ghidorah's middle head, unlike the other two? And it seems that this head was still alive even after being severed from the body!



* If Godzilla's just [[WalkingWasteland waltzing around is terraforming the planet]], how is there any record of him existing? Assuming Godzilla stopped him in time whenever he tried to destroy Earth, any nearby humans would've been reduced to paste.

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* If Godzilla's Ghidorah's just [[WalkingWasteland waltzing around is terraforming the planet]], how is there any record of him existing? Assuming Godzilla stopped him in time whenever he tried to destroy Earth, any nearby humans would've been reduced to paste.



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* When they arrive at the Antarctica outpost, they say they are already getting an ECG signal from Ghidorah, so it's evident that he was already half-awaken from the drilling. Perhaps Ghidorah was already subconsciously emitting some sort of signal that Godzilla managed to identify.

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* When they arrive at the Antarctica outpost, they say they are already getting an ECG EKG signal from Ghidorah, so it's evident that he was already half-awaken half-awake from the drilling. Perhaps Ghidorah was already subconsciously emitting some sort of signal that Godzilla managed to identify.
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* It's mentioned that the Oxygen Destroyer failed to harm Ghidorah in any way, because his body doesn't need oxygen in its processes. Yet in Antarctica we see vapor clouds in his exhalations, meaning that there must be some sort of respiration going on? Not to mention Godzilla trying to drown him during the battle in Mexico.
** He may breathe something other than oxygen, or can breathe oxygen if its present but also can survive without it. And Godzilla wasn't trying to drown him in the underwater battle, he was trying to rip Ghidorah apart, to disable him enough to finish him off afterward. Getting him underwater was about inhibiting Ghidorah's agility while maximizing Godzilla's own, not about drowning him.
** If this Ghidorah is anything like the Japanese incarnations, flying through space under his own power is very common for him, implying he has never needed oxygen to live.

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* It's mentioned that the Oxygen Destroyer failed to harm Ghidorah in any way, because his body doesn't need oxygen in its processes. Yet in Antarctica Antarctica, we see vapor clouds in his exhalations, meaning that there must be some sort of respiration is going on? on. Not to mention Godzilla trying to drown him during the battle in Mexico.
** He may breathe something other than oxygen, or can breathe oxygen if its present but also can survive without it. And Godzilla wasn't trying to drown him in the underwater battle, he was trying to rip Ghidorah apart, to disable him enough to finish him off afterward. Getting him underwater was about inhibiting Ghidorah's agility while maximizing Godzilla's own, not about drowning him.
** If this Ghidorah is anything like the Japanese incarnations, flying through space under his own power is very common for him, common, implying he has never needed oxygen to live.



* Why exactly was Ghidorah completely defenseless when Godzilla dragged him underwater? Couldn't he fire his gravity beams in self-defence, which would have been helpful since water conducts electricity and would be more harmful to Godzilla there?
** Answering both questions here. It's not that Ghidorah couldn't use his powers or was drowning; it's how Ghidorah fights. Notice when the fought in Antarctica, Godzilla was able to overpower Ghidorah quickly and push him closer to the hole he popped out, he also over powered him when drug him under water and kept him from escaping. Ghidorah is constantly fighting Godzilla from the edge of his greater range, using his flight to create small retreats to allow him to more safety attack the physically stronger but smaller Godzilla, similar to a fight between a boxer and a slugger. When Godzilla finally got a solid hold on Ghidorah's body, Ghidorah freaks out and even fires bolts at random because he can no longer put a controllable distance between him and Godzilla. His fears are pretty quickly confirmed as Godzilla starts to dismember him and even the director confirmed Ghidorah was going to die if not for the interference of the OD.
*** Godzilla didn't overpower Ghidorah in Antarctica at all. He bit and choke-slammed one head but got his butt kicked throughout the rest of the fight. Ghidorah is clearly stronger on the land. Godzilla was better in combat in the water, so Ghidorah, also ambushed, was panicking and losing.
*** Actually watch the fight and pay attention to what goes down. the two charge each other and collide a considerable distance from the crater Ghidorah emerged from. Ghidorah is pushed backwards a step or two and then Godzilla bites his head and slams it before we cut away. when we cut back, to their feet, Godzilla and Ghidorah lock up and Godzilla begins to push him backwards and then we cut away again. We cut back once more, Ghidorah and Godzilla are now standing up, with a bit of distance between the two and Ghidorah knocks Godzilla down with a lightning blast but Godzilla quickly recovers and we see Ghidorah actually walking backwards away from Godzilla before we cut away. Cutting back, Ghidorah once again has some distance between him and Godzilla before lightning blasting him again, Godzilla retaliates with his breath, misses and then gets knocked down by a triple blast of lightning and pushed into the crater...which is now right next to the two titans, indicating that Godzilla pushed ghidorah backwards , a sign that he was winning their shoving matches, and that ghidorah was giving ground the whole fight, which isn't a bad thing if you know what you're doing. It's not enough to simply look at the end result, but the exact blow by blow analysis of how we get to the results. It's telling that once Ghidorah had something to distract him, he immediately runs away from Godzilla when he climbs out of the pit. Checking out their second fight, Ghidorah is repeatedly shown wrestling with Godzilla, trying to push him to the surface and to break his grip, but Ghidorah fails to succeed in this endeavor each and every time and Godzilla continues to push him further and further beneath the waves before he then proceeds to dismember Ghidorah. For Godzilla to wrestling Ghidorah down so thoroughly as well as tear his head off indicates Godzilla is physically the stronger of the two, but on land Ghidorah is effectively able to keep a distance from him, rendering Godzilla's strength useless similar to how boxers are able to do the same to sluggers. To further make my point, the director has confirmed that [[https://twitter.com/Mike_Dougherty/status/1160742106840698880?s=19 Ghidorah was going to die at Godzilla's hands had the oxygen destroyer not been deployed.]]
** Godzilla only bit Ni and slammed him once the rest is him getting curb-stomped. He gets bitten when choke slamming Ni and when they grapple in the next shot we see of the fight he gets bitten and forced back by Ni towards the Osprey not Godzilla forcing Ghidorah back. He gets blasted on the ground, fired again, and then into the hole. He ran away because the military shot him and surprised him (he’d never been hit with missiles before). Ghidorah won the Arctic fight and Boston fight (round one against normal Godzilla) even though Godzilla was supercharged, had help from Mothra and got an early hit. Ghidorah is clearly stronger and beat him in 3/4 of the fights we know they had. Ghidorah was only losing under water because he got ambushed and was panicking not to mention water is Godzilla’s advantage on land and in the air Ghidorah is clearly superior.

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* Why exactly was Ghidorah completely defenseless when Godzilla dragged him underwater? Couldn't he fire his gravity beams in self-defence, self-defense, which would have been helpful since water conducts electricity and would be more harmful to Godzilla there?
** Answering both questions here. It's not that Ghidorah couldn't use his powers or was drowning; it's how Ghidorah fights. Notice when the they fought in Antarctica, Godzilla was able to could overpower Ghidorah quickly and push him closer to the hole he popped out, out; he also over powered overpowered him when he drug him under water underwater and kept him from escaping. Ghidorah is constantly fighting Godzilla from the edge of his greater range, using his flight to create small retreats to allow him to more safety safely attack the physically stronger but smaller Godzilla, similar to a fight between a boxer and a slugger. When Godzilla finally got a solid hold on Ghidorah's body, Ghidorah freaks out and even fires bolts at random because he can no longer put a controllable distance between him and Godzilla. His fears are pretty quickly confirmed as Godzilla starts to dismember him and even the director confirmed Ghidorah was going to die if not for the interference of the OD.
*** Godzilla didn't overpower Ghidorah in Antarctica at all. He bit and choke-slammed one head but got his butt kicked throughout the rest of the fight. Ghidorah is clearly stronger on the land. Godzilla was better in combat in the water, so Ghidorah, Ghidorah was also ambushed, was panicking ambushed and losing.
panicked and lost.
*** Actually Actually, watch the fight and pay attention to what goes down. the two charge each other and collide a considerable distance from the crater Ghidorah emerged from. Ghidorah is pushed backwards a step or two and then Godzilla bites his head and slams it before we cut away. when we cut back, back to their feet, Godzilla and Ghidorah lock up up, and Godzilla begins to push him backwards backward, and then we cut away again. We cut back once more, Ghidorah and Godzilla are now standing up, with a bit of distance between the two and Ghidorah knocks Godzilla down with a lightning blast but Godzilla quickly recovers and we see Ghidorah actually walking backwards backward away from Godzilla before we cut away. Cutting back, Ghidorah once again has some distance between him and Godzilla before lightning blasting him again, Godzilla retaliates with his breath, misses and then gets knocked down by a triple blast of lightning and pushed into the crater...which is now right next to the two titans, indicating that Godzilla pushed ghidorah backwards , a sign that he was winning their shoving matches, and that ghidorah was giving ground the whole fight, which isn't a bad thing if you know what you're doing. It's not enough to simply look at the end result, but the exact blow by blow analysis of how we get to the results. It's telling that once Ghidorah had something to distract him, he immediately runs away from Godzilla when he climbs out of the pit. Checking out their second fight, Ghidorah is repeatedly shown wrestling with Godzilla, trying to push him to the surface and to break his grip, but Ghidorah fails to succeed in this endeavor each and every time and Godzilla continues to push him further and further beneath the waves before he then proceeds to dismember Ghidorah. For Godzilla to wrestling Ghidorah down so thoroughly as well as tear his head off indicates Godzilla is physically the stronger of the two, but on land Ghidorah is effectively able to keep a distance from him, rendering Godzilla's strength useless similar to how boxers are able to can do the same to sluggers. To further make my point, the director has confirmed that [[https://twitter.com/Mike_Dougherty/status/1160742106840698880?s=19 Ghidorah was going to die at Godzilla's hands had the oxygen destroyer not been deployed.]]
** Godzilla only bit Ni and slammed him once the rest is him getting curb-stomped. He gets bitten when choke slamming Ni and when they grapple in the next shot we see of the fight he gets bitten and forced back by Ni towards the Osprey not Godzilla forcing Ghidorah back. He gets blasted on the ground, fired again, and then into the hole. He ran away because the military shot him and surprised him (he’d never been hit with missiles before). Ghidorah won the Arctic fight and Boston fight fights (round one against normal Godzilla) even though Godzilla was supercharged, had help from Mothra and got an early hit. Ghidorah is clearly stronger and beat him in 3/4 of the fights we know they had. Ghidorah was only losing under water underwater because he got ambushed and was panicking panicking, not to mention water is Godzilla’s advantage on land land, and in the air air, Ghidorah is clearly superior.



* While Ghidorah's heads are occasionally shown to bicker, his body never shows any sign of conflicting movements suggesting the heads struggling for control. Does the middle head have full control of the body while the others are just essentially parasitic twins? Do they share control for the body but the middle head dominated the other two to become the leader? Or perhaps the heads aren't actually separate consciousnesses, just different aspects of the same personality?

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* While Ghidorah's heads are occasionally shown to bicker, his body never shows any sign of conflicting movements movements, suggesting the heads struggling struggle for control. Does the middle head have full fully control of the body while the others are just essentially parasitic twins? Do they share control for of the body body, but the middle head dominated dominates the other two to become the leader? Or perhaps the heads aren't actually separate consciousnesses, just different aspects of the same personality?



** Unlike Conjoined twins, Ghidora is an alien who is presumably ''supposed'' to have three heads, so he probably has some sort of neurological mechanism in place to deal with stuff like that. Perhaps the three brains are able to unconsciously communicate what they want the body to do via a neural node located at the point of spinal intersection, with the central head having veto power in the event of a three-way disagreement.
** Alternately, the heads are just appendages for sensing and fighting, with the ''real'' control center located in the body. At most, they'd have the marginal independence of an octopus's tentacles. The "bickering" heads could be a side effect of each head having reflexive ganglia that drive them to get snappy when foiled, sometimes even at each other, in the same way a human might give themselves a stinging slap on their left arm by reflexively swatting at a mosquito with their right palm.
*** There might actually be something to this theory, since the director outright stated Ghidorah has his neurons scattered throughout his body and limbs like an octopus, though there are a couple bits that seem to be disproven and need to be cleared up. The director seems to lean towards the idea that Ghidorah's heads have independent minds; looking at them closely in the film shows that each head exhibits its own distinct personality beyond just "slapping himself". It's also worth noting in relation to this, Kevin does retain the exact nature and memories when regenerated as he did pre-decapitation (see the appropriate folder on [[WMG/MonsterVerse MonsterVerse WMG]] for more on that and on how that mechanic might work if Ghidorah's biology is octopus-like). Now onto the central question of how Ghidorah's body locomotes with three minds: besides the above "neural node" explanation, if Ghidorah's three heads are somewhat similar to an octopus' tentacles, then perhaps Ghidorah has a fourth "octopus brain" inside the body. But unlike the heads' three minds, the "octopus brain" is more rudimentary, serving the function of coordinating the movements of the rest of Ghidorah's body in relation to what the three heads want to do, while preventing or minimizing conflict in Ghidorah's actions, in the event the heads disagree or the left head gets distracted. Similar to a scientific study indicating that an octopus' brain can, with time, get the semi-independent tentacles "in line" as it were if the octopus' eyes and brain are aware of something which the tentacles' sensors can't detect.

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** Unlike Conjoined twins, Ghidora is an alien who is presumably ''supposed'' to have three heads, so he probably has some sort of neurological mechanism in place to deal with stuff like that. Perhaps the three brains are able to can unconsciously communicate what they want the body to do via a neural node located at the point of spinal intersection, with the central head having veto power in the event of a three-way disagreement.
** Alternately, the heads are just appendages for sensing and fighting, with the ''real'' control center located in the body. At most, they'd have the marginal independence of an octopus's tentacles. The "bickering" heads could be a side effect of each head having reflexive ganglia that drive them to get snappy when foiled, sometimes even at each other, in the same way way, a human might give themselves a stinging slap on their left arm by reflexively swatting at a mosquito with their right palm.
*** There might actually be something to this theory, theory since the director outright stated Ghidorah has his neurons scattered throughout his body and limbs like an octopus, though there are a couple of bits that seem to be disproven and need to be cleared up. The director seems to lean towards the idea that Ghidorah's heads have independent minds; looking at them closely in the film shows that each head exhibits its own distinct personality beyond just "slapping himself". himself." It's also worth noting in relation to this, this: Kevin does retain the exact nature and memories when regenerated as he did pre-decapitation (see the appropriate folder on [[WMG/MonsterVerse MonsterVerse WMG]] for more on that and on how that mechanic might work if Ghidorah's biology is octopus-like). Now Now, onto the central question of how Ghidorah's body locomotes with three minds: besides the above "neural node" explanation, if Ghidorah's three heads are somewhat similar to an octopus' tentacles, then perhaps Ghidorah has a fourth "octopus brain" inside the body. But unlike the heads' three minds, the "octopus brain" is more rudimentary, serving the function of coordinating the movements of the rest of Ghidorah's body in relation to with what the three heads want to do, do while preventing or minimizing conflict in Ghidorah's actions, in the event the heads disagree disagree, or the left head gets distracted. Similar This is similar to a scientific study indicating that an octopus' brain can, with time, get the semi-independent tentacles "in line" line," as it were were, if the octopus' eyes and brain are aware of something which that the tentacles' sensors can't detect.



** Godzilla can fire from quite a distance (we don't know his max), but unless its a surprise attack, the further away he fires from the bigger the chance his opponent can move out of the way (amounting to vast wasted energy for Godzilla). And as we saw in their first fight, Ghidorah is quite capable of dodging if he sees the attack coming.

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** Godzilla can fire from quite a distance (we don't know his max), but unless its a surprise attack, the further away he fires from the bigger the chance his opponent can move out of the way (amounting to vast wasted energy for Godzilla). And as we saw in their first fight, Ghidorah is quite capable of dodging can dodge if he sees the attack coming.



** And given how utterly cataclysmic ONE Ghidorah is to all life on Earth, how would have an ''entire species'' of them have thrived and survived on the planet without wiping everything else to extinction?
** Well, Ghidorah lived in ancient times when equally powerful monsters populated the Earth so there was an equilibrium in their ecosystem. Also, they could go for the classic Showa-era Ghidorah (it's interesting that the viral website does refer to him as "Monster Zero") and make him an extraterrestrial being.
** Possibly Ghidorah IS the last survivor of his species... What happened to the others? Ghidorah did.

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** And given how utterly cataclysmic ONE Ghidorah is to all life on Earth, how would have an ''entire species'' of them have thrived and survived on the planet without wiping everything else to extinction?
** Well, Ghidorah lived in ancient times when equally powerful monsters populated the Earth Earth, so there was an equilibrium in their ecosystem. ecosystem had an equilibrium. Also, they could go for the classic Showa-era Ghidorah (it's interesting that (interestingly, the viral website does refer to him as "Monster Zero") and make him an extraterrestrial being.
** Possibly Possibly, Ghidorah IS the last survivor of his species... What happened to the others? Ghidorah did.



** The Godzilla series has always been weird about its monster origins, but one thing has always been a definite, regardless of film, Ghidorah has always been the only specimen of his kind, generally due to how powerful he is or how he was made.
*** Ghidorah being a SingleSpecimenSpecies isn't a definite even in classical material. He was like that at first, but in later installments they revealed other Ghidorahs.

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** The Godzilla series has always been weird about its monster origins, but one thing has always been a definite, definite: regardless of film, Ghidorah has always been the only specimen of his kind, generally due to how powerful he is or how he was made.
*** Ghidorah being a SingleSpecimenSpecies isn't a definite definite, even in classical material. He was like that at first, but in later installments installments, they revealed other Ghidorahs.



* Are Ghidorah's three heads kind of portrayed inconsistently in the film? Supposedly the middle head was supposed to be the sadistic and intelligent one, the right head the aggressive one and the left head the dumb one, but some say that the left head is the sadistic one and the right head is the smart one?
** I think some interpret the left head's licking of the soldiers ashes as sadism when it was likely some form of curiosity.
** There was a thing around the internet until recently where Ni (the right head) was credited as the head that had the brains to chomp the Boston transformer, when looking closely in the actual film reveals it's Ichi (the middle head) who does that.
** Kevin (the left head) seems to be more eager than the other two heads when they're draining Mothra's radiation out of Godzilla. Depending on AlternativeCharacterInterpretation, this could mean Kevin is a PsychopathicManchild who enjoys fighting like several Titans but is getting carried away. He loves eating the radiation and isn't restraining himself like the other heads, or he holds a grudge over Godzilla ripping his head off in the ocean.

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* Are Ghidorah's three heads kind of portrayed inconsistently in the film? Supposedly Supposedly, the middle head was supposed to be the sadistic and intelligent one, the right head the aggressive one one, and the left head the dumb one, but some say that the left head is the sadistic one and the right head is the smart one?
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** I think some interpret the left head's licking of the soldiers soldiers' ashes as sadism when it was likely some form of curiosity.
** There was a thing around the internet until recently where Ni (the right head) was credited as the head that had with the brains to chomp the Boston transformer, transformer when looking closely in the actual film reveals that it's Ichi (the middle head) who does that.
** Kevin (the left head) seems to be more eager than the other two heads when they're draining Mothra's radiation out of Godzilla. Depending on AlternativeCharacterInterpretation, this could mean Kevin is a PsychopathicManchild who enjoys fighting like several Titans but is getting carried away. He loves eating the radiation and isn't restraining himself like the other heads, or he holds a grudge over Godzilla ripping his head off in the ocean.



** It's been stated by Mike Dougherty that the right head is the most-aggressive and bloodthirsty of the three, though that doesn't quite come across.
** Likely he's the most eager to fight and the smartest in combat. When the middle head roars out a challenge to Godzilla the right head's QuizzicalTilt can be seen as him sizing up his opponent and trying to analyze the situation, and later before Ghidorah flees the Antarctica battle, the right head can be seen spitefully shaking his head. He's also the first to notice essential things in combat, such as the speakers in Fenway Park or the electrical transformer.

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** It's been stated by Mike Dougherty that the right head is the most-aggressive most aggressive and bloodthirsty of the three, though that doesn't quite come across.
** Likely Likely, he's the most eager to fight and the smartest in combat. When the middle head roars out a challenge to Godzilla Godzilla, the right head's QuizzicalTilt can be seen as him sizing up his opponent and trying to analyze the situation, and later later, before Ghidorah flees the Antarctica battle, the right head can be seen spitefully shaking his head. He's also the first to notice essential things in combat, such as the speakers in Fenway Park or the electrical transformer.



* The consensus we as a wiki seem to have come to on the main page is that Ghidora's FreudianTrio is split into three semi-distinct personalities: The right head ([[YourOtherLeft Ghidora's right, that is]]) is the calculating and analytical super ego, the central head is the bossy ego, and the left head is the base and impulsive Id.

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* The consensus we as a wiki seem to have come to on the main page is that Ghidora's FreudianTrio is split into three semi-distinct personalities: The right head ([[YourOtherLeft Ghidora's right, that is]]) is the calculating and analytical super ego, superego, the central head is the bossy ego, and the left head is the base and impulsive Id.



* Godzilla's hidden resting place is a highly-radioactive area deep within the Earth where he goes to recover from his wounds. Given the hostility of the place, how did ancient humans even build the temple without the extreme radiation roasting them?
** It may have had lower radiation levels in the past and Godzilla didn't start nesting their till after it got like that.
** Another possibility, considering how incredible the size of the ruins are (i.e. indicating the capabilities of those ancient people), is that the ancient people who built it had amazing technology or access to some sort of special protection from radiation that is superior to modern technology.
* The temple and the city surrounding it is a MythologyGag to Seatopia, an underwater civilization who worshipped kaijus (seen in Godzilla vs Megalon). A prequel surrounding it would perhaps be helpful for the [=MonsterVerse=].

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* Godzilla's hidden resting place is a highly-radioactive highly radioactive area deep within the Earth where he goes to recover from his wounds. Given the hostility of the place, how did ancient humans even build the temple without the extreme radiation roasting them?
** It may have had lower radiation levels in the past past, and Godzilla didn't start nesting their there till after it got like that.
that way.
** Another possibility, considering how incredible the size of the ruins are (i.e. , indicating the capabilities of those ancient people), is that the ancient people who built it had amazing technology or access to some sort of special protection from radiation that is superior to modern technology.
* The temple and the city surrounding it is city are a MythologyGag to Seatopia, an underwater civilization who worshipped kaijus worshipping kaiju (seen in Godzilla vs Megalon).''Film/Godzilla vs. Megalon''). A prequel surrounding it would perhaps be helpful for the [=MonsterVerse=].



* So Mothra hatched as a larva, pupated, and emerged as an adult all in the span of one day? Justified in the original films, as she is explicitly magical, but in the more realistic setting of the Monsterverse it kinda sticks out, especially since it took the male [=MUTO=] 15 years to pupate.
** The Titans seem to have a form of intelligence that lets them know when something has gone, or is about to go, completely pear-shaped, anywhere on Earth (note how Godzilla went to intimidate[=/=]warn Monarch even before Emma awakened Ghidorah, then beelined for the Antarctica base himself.) They can also clearly understand the intentions of humans, either in a group or as individual people. When Emma said that "[Mothra] really wants to be born" she may have though she was being poetic about the egg's sudden activity, but maybe she WAS accidentally right? It's possible Mothra sensed the intentions of the humans around her, hatched, and then sped up her own metamorphosis so she could be there to help Godzilla fight Ghidorah. Keep in mind, in the original series, Mothra is considered a divine entity, unlike the radioactive monsters or the alien invaders, so she may have both the foresight and the control over her own biology to pull this off.

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* So Mothra hatched as a larva, pupated, and emerged as an adult all in the span of one day? Justified in the original films, as she is explicitly magical, but in the more realistic setting of the Monsterverse [=MonsterVerse=], it kinda sticks out, especially since it took the male [=MUTO=] 15 years to pupate.
** The Titans seem to have a form of intelligence that lets them know when something has gone, or is about to go, completely pear-shaped, anywhere on Earth (note how Godzilla went to intimidate[=/=]warn Monarch even before Emma awakened Ghidorah, then beelined for the Antarctica base himself.) They can also clearly understand the intentions of humans, either in a group or as individual people. individuals. When Emma said that "[Mothra] really wants to be born" born," she may have though thought she was being poetic about the egg's sudden activity, but maybe she WAS accidentally right? right. It's possible Mothra sensed the intentions of the humans around her, hatched, and then sped up her own metamorphosis so she could be there to help Godzilla fight Ghidorah. Keep in mind, in the original series, Mothra is considered a divine entity, unlike the radioactive monsters or the alien invaders, so she may have both the foresight and the control over her own biology to pull this off.



** The novel and the director both imply that Mothra is indeed a supernatural goddess in this continuity, so seems likely that this is the case.

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** The novel and the director both imply that Mothra is indeed a supernatural goddess in this continuity, so seems likely that this is likely the case.



** Given Mothra's tendency of dying and being reborn so often, I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out that this version actually did have a short mayfly-like lifespan.

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** Given Mothra's tendency of dying to die and being be reborn so often, I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out that this version actually did have a short mayfly-like lifespan.



* So apparently the radioactive emissions of the Titans are a good thing? I mean, they help plants grow, somehow, but isn't the radiation still, like, really bad for humans?

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* So apparently So, apparently, the radioactive emissions of the Titans are a good thing? I mean, they help plants grow, somehow, but isn't the radiation still, like, really bad for humans?



** Perhaps the radiation given off by the Titans is distinct from radiation that we're used to, maybe after being processed by the Titans, it stimulates organic life without damaging it.
** It's probably more complicated than that. Some of the Titans might actually be able to metabolize using pollutants like [=CO2=] and oil. Scylla ''was'' found under an oil field, so that ''can't'' be a coincidence. After all, creatures their size need an ABSURD amount or energy just to ''STAY'' '' '''ALIVE''' '', let alone move and fight.
** It's very likely the case that they turn 'negative' radiation into a 'positive' form as a byproduct of their biology. Keep in mind they ''eat'' radiation, it wouldn't make sense for them to emit the same thing they take in.
** "Radiation" is a generic term for energy emitted in the form of waves or particles. ("Ionizing radiation" is the harmful stuff, and is what most people automatically think of when they hear the generic word.) The fact that Godzilla's bursts of "atomic breath" don't render huge swaths of terrain uninhabitable for decades suggests that the energy the Titans emit is unusual in a number of ways.

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** Perhaps the radiation given off by the Titans is distinct from radiation that we're used to, to; maybe after being processed by the Titans, it stimulates organic life without damaging it.
** It's probably more complicated than that. Some of the Titans might actually be able to metabolize using pollutants like [=CO2=] and oil. Scylla ''was'' found under an oil field, so that ''can't'' be a coincidence. After all, creatures their size need an ABSURD amount or of energy just to ''STAY'' '' '''ALIVE''' '', let alone move and fight.
** It's very They likely the case that they turn 'negative' radiation into a 'positive' form as a byproduct of their biology. Keep in mind Remember, they ''eat'' radiation, it wouldn't make sense for them to emit radiation; emitting the same thing they take in.
in wouldn't make sense.
** "Radiation" is a generic term for energy emitted in the form of by waves or particles. ("Ionizing radiation" is the harmful stuff, and is what most people automatically think of when they hear the generic word.) The fact that Godzilla's bursts of "atomic breath" don't render huge swaths of terrain uninhabitable for decades suggests that the energy the Titans emit is unusual in a number of several ways.



* At the very end where the Titans all bow before Godzilla, how many are present? There's Rodan, Behemoth (the mammoth-ape), Scylla (the spider), Methuselah (the mountain creature) and a female [=MUTO=]. Are there more in the scene?

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* At the very end end, where the Titans all bow before Godzilla, how many are present? There's Rodan, Behemoth (the mammoth-ape), Scylla (the spider), Methuselah (the mountain creature) creature), and a female [=MUTO=]. Are there more in the scene?



** Also let's not give Monarch credit where it's proven to not be so credible. There could be more. (And you know for studio profits and merchandise too)
** They only said they had discovered 17 around the world, most of them still in hibernation. Ghidorah's roar might've just not woken ''everyone'' up.

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** Also Also, let's not give Monarch credit where it's proven to not be so credible.unreliable. There could be more. (And you know know, for studio profits and merchandise merchandise, too)
** They only said they had discovered 17 around the world, worldwide, most of them still in hibernation. Ghidorah's roar might've just not woken ''everyone'' up.



** Presumably with no male around there is no risk of her reproducing. Its also possible that the 2014 [=MUTO=] were only such a threat because they were a new generation that knew nothing about the balance of power that currently existed among the Titans. The female [=MUTO=] in the movie may know her place and proper behavior.
** That seems likely, as the New [=MUTO=] bows to Godzilla, whereas the two in the 2014 film openly challenged and attacked him. Maybe Godzilla's beef with them had nothing to do with their attempt at reproducing, but because they were openly defiant to his power.
* So where was she during the first movie? How come she wasn't responding to the male [=MUTO=]'s mating calls like the other female [=MUTO=], are they monogamous and only breed with their assigned "sibling"?
** Or she knew Godzilla would hunt the others down, and decided to stay out of it.
** She was probably within the Hollow Earth at the time, remember the other two were taken above ground by Monarch, perhaps she was too far away to hear the call, or as put above they are monogamous, the two in the previous movie did seem quite taken with each other, either that or it's a first response gets the guy.
** The new [=MUTO=] looks different from the other two (grey skin, different crest and two fewer legs) so it's probable that it's a different sub-species of [=MUTO=] that may lack the parasitic reproductive method of the other kind and has no animosity towards Godzilla's species.

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** Presumably Presumably, with no male around around, there is no risk of her reproducing. Its It is also possible that the 2014 [=MUTO=] were only such a threat because they were a new generation that knew nothing about the current balance of power that currently existed among the Titans. The movie's female [=MUTO=] in the movie may know her place and proper behavior.
** That seems likely, as the New [=MUTO=] bows to Godzilla, whereas the two in the 2014 film openly challenged and attacked him. Maybe Godzilla's beef with them had nothing to do with their attempt at reproducing, reproducing but because they were openly defiant to his power.
* So So, where was she during the first movie? How come she wasn't responding to the male [=MUTO=]'s mating calls like the other female [=MUTO=], are they monogamous and only breed with their assigned "sibling"?
** Or she knew Godzilla would hunt the others down, down and decided to stay out of it.
** She was probably within the Hollow Earth at the time, remember time; remember, Monarch took the other two were taken above ground by Monarch, perhaps ground. Perhaps she was too far away to hear the call, or as put above they are monogamous, the two in the previous movie did seem quite taken with each other, either that or it's a first response gets the guy.
** The new [=MUTO=] looks different from the other two (grey skin, different crest crest, and two fewer legs) legs), so it's probable that it's a different sub-species of [=MUTO=] that may lack the parasitic reproductive method of the other kind and has no animosity towards Godzilla's species.



** To the first question, it seems likely her scales did something. Fans seem divided on whether the nuke or Mothra enabled Godzilla's burning form. As for why Ghidorah would drain Godzilla, he wants all the power he can get, plus he recognizes the danger that energy may pose. He may also simply have to weaken Godzilla via the draining before he can have a chance of killing him.

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** To the first question, it seems likely her scales did something. Fans seem divided on whether the nuke or Mothra enabled Godzilla's burning form. As for why Ghidorah would drain Godzilla, he wants all the power he can get, plus he get and recognizes the danger that energy may pose. He may also simply have to weaken Godzilla via the draining before he can have a chance of killing him.



** The middle head was the one to chomp down on the power station for a re-charge. Possibly this action gave that particular head a little more energy with which to deflect the impact of the blast, albeit at the cost of the incoming nuclear blast hitting the ''other'' two heads even harder?

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** The middle head was the one to chomp down on the power station for a re-charge.recharge. Possibly this action gave that particular head a little more energy with which to deflect the impact of the blast, albeit at the cost of the incoming nuclear blast hitting the ''other'' two heads even harder?



*** And the film provides the way in which he regenerated. It seems whenever Godzilla is badly injured or near death, he retreats to a temple hidden in one of the Hollow Earth tunnels he uses. This temple is located over some kind of wellspring of radiation, and both allow him to recover and to adapt his body over a period of years to better handle the conditions he is faced with. It's been theorized that this is how he was able to live for so much longer than the rest of his species.

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*** And the film provides the way in which how he regenerated. It seems whenever Godzilla is badly injured or near death, he retreats to a temple hidden in one of the Hollow Earth tunnels he uses. This temple is located over some kind of wellspring of radiation, and both allow him to recover and to adapt his body over a period of years to handle better handle the conditions he is faced with. It's been theorized that this is how he was able to live lived for so much longer than the rest of his species.



** And would that mean that "[=MUTO=]" is now the specific name of the particular sexually-dimorphic insectoid species of the previous film, and no longer a catch-all term for giant monsters in general?

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** And would Would that mean that "[=MUTO=]" is now the specific name of the particular sexually-dimorphic sexually dimorphic insectoid species of the previous film, film and no longer a catch-all term for giant monsters in general?



** The synopsis for the film indicates that another mysterious organization aside from MONARCH is in play. Perhaps “Titan” is their term for kaiju.

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** The synopsis for the film indicates that another mysterious organization aside from MONARCH Monarch is in play. Perhaps “Titan” is their term for kaiju.



** From what we got in the film it looks like so far we are to take it they were worshiped like gods and we don't completely understand them. However Ghidorah is pretty much completely alien and bizarre and Mothra is handled in many ways that makes one question how much SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome is still with the franchise going forward. The next film has promises to explore more of the origins, so perhaps we will get a more full-blown explanation next year.

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** From what we got in the film it looks like so far we are to take it they were worshiped like gods and we don't completely understand them. However However, Ghidorah is pretty much completely alien and bizarre bizarre, and Mothra is handled in many ways that makes make one question how much SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome is still with the franchise going forward. The next film has promises to explore more of the origins, so perhaps we will get a more full-blown explanation next year.



** The film makes it quite clear that Emma Russell ''is a crazy idiot''. The moment she reveals her true plans, everybody on Monarch -- and her own daughter -- call her out as delusional in some way, from Dr. Serizawa's visible horror at her plans to her daughter calling her "a monster". She even comes to her senses in the final quarter of the movie and tries to thwart her own plan.

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** The film makes it quite clear shows that Emma Russell ''is a is ''a crazy idiot''. The moment she reveals her true plans, everybody on Monarch -- and her own daughter -- call her out as delusional in some way, from Dr. Serizawa's visible horror at her plans to her daughter calling her "a monster". monster." She even comes to her senses in the movie's final quarter of the movie and tries to thwart her own plan.



** It's also stated in one scene that the plan was to introduce the Titans one at a time over the course of weeks. Ghidorah was just the first target to be released after the Orca was completed. All the other Titans awakening and rising was because Ghidorah was calling them the alpha of the planet.

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** It's also stated in one scene that the plan was to introduce the Titans one at a time over the course of weeks. Ghidorah was just the first target to be released after the Orca was completed. All the other Titans awakening and rising was because Ghidorah was calling called them the alpha of the planet.



** With the world recovering from "the biggest disaster in history" it's not surprising that stuff like this could go unreported. Plus there is noted to be a very lucrative black market in Titan blood and parts, adding incentive to not report discoveries.
** I feel like with all the mess Monarch and the US govt gave the local fisherman in that area, a lot of them probably consider money now far more important than reporting to the "proper authorities."

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** With the world recovering from "the biggest disaster in history" history," it's not surprising that stuff like this could go unreported. Plus Plus, there is noted to be a very lucrative black market in Titan blood and parts, adding incentive to not to report discoveries.
** I feel like with all the mess Monarch and the US govt government gave the local fisherman fishermen in that area, a lot many of them probably consider money now far more important than reporting to the "proper authorities."



** Maybe they could have figured that it was a "better to beg forgiveness than ask permission" situation. Or maybe they ''did'' ask for permission, without knowing how bad the OD would be (assuming it's as bad as in the original continuity), and Mexico gave it to them. They did mention it was still in development and they were launching early.

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** Maybe they could have figured that it was a "better to beg forgiveness than ask permission" situation. Or maybe they ''did'' ask for permission, permission without knowing how bad the OD would be (assuming it's as bad as in the original continuity), and Mexico gave it to them. They did mention it was still in development and they were launching early.



* Why exactly did Madison go back to their house in the middle of a four-way monster fight? You'd think the safest route would be to head outward to the outskirts of town, but she barricades herself inside the house, right smack in the middle of the battle!

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* Why exactly did Madison go back return to their house in the middle of a four-way monster fight? You'd think the safest route would be to head outward to the outskirts of town, but she barricades herself inside the house, house right smack in the middle of the battle!



** It's also a somewhat reasonable expectation that, if she believes either one of her parents would come to find her, that would be the one place they'd think of as an "in case of emergency, gather here". Whether she underestimated the destructive potential of the fight or was irrationally hopeful it wouldn't get there is another matter.

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** It's also a somewhat reasonable expectation that, if she believes either one of her parents would come to find her, that would be the one place they'd think of as an "in case of emergency, gather here". Whether Another matter is whether she underestimated the destructive potential of the fight or was irrationally hopeful it wouldn't get there is another matter.there.



* Methuselah, the mountain Titan, was said to have awakened in Munich, Germany. Yet somehow he shows up at Godzilla's coronation, in ''Boston''? Did he somehow manage to traverse the Atlantic Ocean? Behemoth awoke in Brazil, so he could have traveled up to Central America (and perhaps waded through the Panama Canal), while Scylla awoke in Arizona, also in North America, so her travel to Boston on foot also makes sense. But Methuselah, on the other hand...
** We see clearly Behemoth, Scylla, the female [=MUTO=], and Rodan. Did we see Methuselah at the gathering too?

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* Methuselah, the mountain Titan, was said to have awakened in Munich, Germany. Yet somehow somehow, he shows up at Godzilla's coronation, coronation in ''Boston''? Did he somehow manage to traverse the Atlantic Ocean? Behemoth awoke in Brazil, so he could have traveled up to Central America (and perhaps waded through the Panama Canal), while Scylla awoke in Arizona, also in North America, so her travel to Boston on foot also makes sense. But Methuselah, on the other hand...
** We see clearly Behemoth, Scylla, the female [=MUTO=], and Rodan. Did we see Methuselah at the gathering gathering, too?



** It's unknown; in the movie, they say the old legends claim he fell from the stars, but that's it. Perhaps it came hibernating deep inside an asteroid, or aliens purposefully left it here; our guess is as good as anybody in MONARCH.

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** It's unknown; in the movie, they say the old legends claim he fell from the stars, but that's it. Perhaps it came hibernating deep inside an asteroid, or aliens purposefully left it here; our guess is as good as anybody in MONARCH.Monarch.



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* OK, I could kind of buy the eco-terrorists taking the MONARCH outpost where Mothra was being contained by surprise. But after that, it seemed that no attempts were made to bolster their defenses (both electronic and physical) and put everybody on a stricter security alert. Bear in mind that Jonah's forces were just a dozen armed people at most, and yet the Antarctica outpost fell so quickly they weren't even able to send a distress signal, and the hacking of the containment measures (something MONARCH already knew was something the terrorists could do) in the Isla de Mara outpost went equally fast and unimpeded. Also, the terrorists leave their Osprey right in front of the Antarctica base, and when the MONARCH forces arrive using that same entrance... they ignore the terrorists' only way of escape. Why not leave a couple of guards, or at least do something so any hostile forces won't find their escape vehicle up and running just fine?

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[[folder: MONARCH Monarch kinda sucks at security and tactics]]
* OK, I could kind of buy the eco-terrorists taking the MONARCH Monarch outpost where Mothra was being contained by surprise. But after that, it seemed that no attempts were made to bolster their defenses (both electronic and physical) and put everybody on a stricter security alert. Bear in mind that Jonah's forces were just a dozen armed people at most, and yet the Antarctica outpost fell so quickly they weren't even able to send a distress signal, and the hacking of the containment measures (something MONARCH Monarch already knew was something the terrorists could do) in the Isla de Mara outpost went equally fast and unimpeded. Also, the terrorists leave their Osprey right in front of the Antarctica base, and when the MONARCH Monarch forces arrive using that same entrance... they ignore the terrorists' only way of escape. Why not leave a couple of guards, guards or at least do something so any hostile forces won't find their to sabotage the villains' escape vehicle up and running just fine?strand them?



** Well, MONARCH in ''Film/KongSkullIsland'' and ''Film/Godzilla2014'' was a civilian research division with minimal or nonexistent authority over the military forces attached to them (or they were attached to, depending on how you look at it). Since Godzilla and the [=MUTOs=], it's evolved towards a paramilitary organization with a kaiju-hunting focus. But there's a lot of internal inertia to overcome; the civilian scientists aren't just immediately going to fall in with military discipline and security protocol, especially if it interferes with the efficiency of their research. Essentially, behind the scenes, there's probably a huge military-versus-civilian tug-of-war that results in security measures not being implemented or potentially ignored if they are.

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** Well, MONARCH Monarch in ''Film/KongSkullIsland'' and ''Film/Godzilla2014'' was a civilian research division with minimal or nonexistent authority over the military forces attached to them (or they were attached to, depending on how you look at it). Since Godzilla and the [=MUTOs=], it's evolved towards a paramilitary organization with a kaiju-hunting focus. But there's a lot of internal inertia to overcome; the civilian scientists aren't just immediately going to fall in with military discipline and security protocol, especially if it interferes with the efficiency of their research. Essentially, behind the scenes, there's probably a huge military-versus-civilian tug-of-war that results in security measures not being implemented or potentially ignored if they are.



** It seems that Jonah and company went from China straight to Antarctica, one of the most isolated locations on the planet. They might not have ''time'' to boost their security. People arriving to back them up isn't the most straightforward task; the base was also entirely off the record, so MONARCH probably didn't realize Jonah knew it existed. As for Isla de Mara, it wasn't actually taken over or directly attacked: they got hacked, and their containment protocols were deactivated just long enough for Rodan to be released. Both of these are likely due to Emma being a high-ranking MONARCH scientist and MONARCH not realizing until after Rodan is freed that she's on the bad guy's side rather than just a hostage.

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** It seems that Jonah and company went from China straight to Antarctica, one of the most isolated locations on the planet. They might not have ''time'' to boost their security. People arriving to back them up isn't the most straightforward task; the base was also entirely off the record, so MONARCH Monarch probably didn't realize Jonah knew it existed. As for Isla de Mara, it wasn't actually taken over or directly attacked: they got hacked, and their containment protocols were deactivated just long enough for Rodan to be released. Both of these are likely due to Emma being a high-ranking MONARCH Monarch scientist and MONARCH Monarch not realizing until after Rodan is freed that she's on the bad guy's side rather than just a hostage.



** Mark states when talking to Vivienne that immediately after Andrew's death, the family at first went "back home to Boston" and tried to get through the grief together, before Mark and Emma's marriage collapsed and Mark moved to the Colorado mountains.

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** Mark states when talking to Vivienne that immediately after Andrew's death, the family at first went "back home to Boston" and tried to get through the grief together, together before Mark and Emma's marriage collapsed collapsed, and Mark moved to the Colorado mountains.



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** He uses a form of communication that they understand, and so it seems due to this and his sheer level of power he counts as a fellow Titan despite his extraterrestrial origin (much as humanity as a whole seems to count as a fellow Titan despite our much more recent origin). As for self-preservation, most of the Titans have lived through many extinction events and vast climate changes. What Ghidorah seeks may be even worse than that, but they may not realize that until it is too late. Plus they all know they lack the strength to oppose him, and would likely just get killed if they tried, so obeying him is self preservation (even if it only extends their lives a bit).

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** He uses a form of communication that they understand, and so it seems due to this and his sheer level of power he counts as a fellow Titan despite his extraterrestrial origin (much as humanity as a whole seems to count as a fellow Titan despite our much more recent origin). As for self-preservation, most of the Titans have lived through many extinction events and vast climate changes. What Ghidorah seeks may be even worse than that, worse, but they may not realize that until it is too late. Plus Plus, they all know they lack the strength to oppose him, him and would likely just get killed if they tried, so obeying him is self preservation self-preservation (even if it only extends their lives a bit).



** It's a bit WMGing but I think we may be leaving the "animals on instinct" idea behind in this franchise. As it seems like the Titans group is made up of the last of their kind or only one of their kind organisms, I think they are loyal to a leader more for the sake of "we have no one else" than anything else. When Godzilla calls the shots he has kept them in line and presumably no one could best Godzilla in a fight to be the new alpha. Ghidorah on the other hand could and sees the others more as pawns for his bidding. Mothra appeared to the only one who dared not follow the new alpha, but in reality Ghidorah probably would have executed any of the other titans when he tired of them or they tried to challenge him.
** It's not really clear in the film, but the human characters imply that Ghidorah isn't merely commanding the Titans but is actually controlling them after he takes over as alpha.

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** It's a bit WMGing but I think we may be leaving the "animals on instinct" idea behind in this franchise. As it seems like the Titans group is made up of the last of their kind or only one of their kind organisms, I think they are loyal to a leader more for the sake of "we have no one else" than anything else. When Godzilla calls the shots shots, he has kept them in line line, and presumably presumably, no one could best Godzilla in a fight to be the new alpha. Ghidorah on On the other hand hand, Ghidorah could and sees the others more as pawns for his bidding. Mothra appeared to be the only one who dared not follow the new alpha, but in reality reality, Ghidorah probably would have executed any of the other titans when he tired of them them, or they tried to challenge him.
** It's not really clear unclear in the film, but the human characters imply that Ghidorah isn't merely commanding the Titans but is actually controlling them after he takes over as alpha.



* So which head is the most sadistic and which head is the least sadistic? It seems like the latter would go for the right head. But sometimes he has been called the craziest but other times, due to his tendency to lick dead corpses the left head is considered the most sadistic. But usually, the middle is called the evilest head. The right head seems the least sadistic but which head is the least, most and in between in terms of sadism?

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* So which head is the most sadistic and which head is the least sadistic? It seems like the latter would go for the right head. But sometimes Sometimes, he has been called the craziest craziest, but other times, due to his tendency to lick dead corpses corpses, the left head is considered the most sadistic. But usually, the middle is called the evilest head. The right head seems the least sadistic but which head is the least, most and in between in terms of sadism?



* In 2014 Godzilla is shown taking the 15 megaton Castle Bravo blast to the face in the 1950s. He clearly has no ill effects from a much larger bomb. In this movie, a presumably smaller one puts him in immediate danger of melting down and exploding. That's.....odd. So in the 1950s, he could absorb a much larger bomb without this but in the 2010s a modern one nearly kills him?
** Recall that despite the size of the bomb in the video being much larger, the actual lines in the movie state that the nuke they used on Godzilla in the past was much weaker than modern nukes. Its also possible that if he's in the cooling water/not engaged in a battle Godzilla may be more capable of safely releasing excess radiation (recall the threat of meltdown is not mentioned until some time after the bomb hits him, and well after he left the water).
** Another possibility is the fact that the nuclear bomb could have been a Neutron Bomb, which is also known as Enhanced Radiation Weapons, they aren't big on yield but they produce a lot more radiation than a regular bomb.
** Based on the apparent size of the explosion and how it completely shattered absolutely massive kaiju scaled architecture the bomb used on Godzilla at the temple is far larger than any nuclear weapon ever detonated or even seriously concepted in the real world. We're talking gigatonnish yields here. Which would indeed make Castle Bravo look like a firecracker.
** Godzilla was next to a radiation wellspring too, so the bomb could've made the area 'flood' so to speak. Would also explain the huge yield.
** From the size of the warhead assembly in the scene, it would seem to be similar in size to the W76 warhead assembly used on smaller MIRV warheads for Trident I missiles, which is a 95 kilogram Thermonuclear system that has a yield of 90 to 100 kilotons.

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* In 2014 2014, Godzilla is shown taking the 15 megaton 15-megaton Castle Bravo blast to the face in the 1950s. He clearly has no ill effects from a much larger bomb. In this movie, a presumably smaller one puts him in immediate danger of melting down and exploding. That's.....odd. So So, in the 1950s, he could absorb a much larger bomb without this this, but in the 2010s 2010s, a modern one nearly kills him?
** Recall that despite the size of the bomb in the video being much larger, the actual lines in the movie state that the nuke they used on Godzilla in the past was much weaker than modern nukes. Its It is also possible that if he's in the cooling water/not engaged in a battle battle, Godzilla may be more capable of safely releasing excess radiation (recall the threat of meltdown is not mentioned until some time after the bomb hits him, and well after he left the water).
** Another possibility is the fact that the nuclear bomb could have been a Neutron Bomb, which is also known as Enhanced Radiation Weapons, they Weapons. They aren't big on yield but they produce a lot much more radiation than a regular bomb.
** Based on the apparent size of the explosion and how it completely shattered absolutely massive kaiju scaled architecture kaiju-scaled architecture, the bomb used on Godzilla at the temple is far larger than any nuclear weapon ever detonated or even seriously concepted in the real world. We're talking gigatonnish yields here. Which would indeed make Castle Bravo look like a firecracker.
** Godzilla was next to a radiation wellspring wellspring, too, so the bomb could've made the area 'flood' 'flood,' so to speak. Would also explain the huge yield.
** From the size of the warhead assembly in the scene, it would seem to be similar in size to the W76 warhead assembly used on smaller MIRV warheads for Trident I missiles, which is a 95 kilogram 95-kilogram Thermonuclear system that has a yield of 90 to 100 kilotons.



* Real elephants and their extinct cousins only get away with having such short necks and humongous tusks because they have long, prehensile trunks that can gather edible plant matter from the foliage. But Behemoth's stubby trunk isn't able to reach the ground, and the tusks would prevent it from lowering its head to feed. Its calicothere-paws are built for knuckle-walking and possibly digging, not grasping food and raising it to its mouth. We know that this creature ''must'' eat physical food, not subsist off photosynthesis or radiation or whatever, because dung from the Behemoth is cited as very potent fertilizer. Yet its basic anatomy seems to make eating all but impossible for the critter.
** He doesn't seem to have a mouth either, further compounding this issue.
** Well, they feed off radiation, or something, right? So presumably there's no need for Behemoth to manually place food into its mouth.

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* Real elephants and their extinct cousins only get away with having such short necks and humongous tusks because they have long, prehensile trunks that can gather edible plant matter from the foliage. But Behemoth's stubby trunk isn't able to can't reach the ground, and the tusks would prevent it from lowering its head to feed. Its calicothere-paws are built for knuckle-walking and possibly digging, not grasping food and raising it to its mouth. We know that this creature ''must'' eat physical food, not subsist off photosynthesis or radiation or whatever, because dung from the Behemoth is cited as a very potent fertilizer. Yet its basic anatomy seems to make makes eating all but impossible for the critter.
** He doesn't seem to have a mouth either, mouth, further compounding this issue.
** Well, they feed off radiation, radiation or something, right? So presumably So, presumably, there's no need for Behemoth to manually place food into its mouth.mouth manually.



* If Rodan is an Earth-based creature then how did he survive the Oxygen Destroyer's detonation? He was knocked into the water after Ghidorah defeated him right?
** Presumably he had swam/flown out of range of the blast by the time the Oxygen Destroyer detonated. He's already out of the water when Ghidorah emerges to proclaim victory over Godzilla.

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* If Rodan is an Earth-based creature then creature, how did he survive the Oxygen Destroyer's detonation? He was knocked into the water after Ghidorah defeated him him, right?
** Presumably Presumably, he had swam/flown swum/flown out of range of the blast by the time when the Oxygen Destroyer detonated. He's already out of the water when Ghidorah emerges to proclaim victory over Godzilla.



* If his just [[WalkingWasteland waltzing around is terraforming the planet]] how is there any record of him existing at all? Assuming Godzilla stopped him in time whenever he tried to destroy Earth any nearby humans would've been reduced to paste.
** I forget if the source of this info is the novel or the various news articles we see in the credits, but the civilization that worshiped Godzilla and built that gigantic temple was actually quite advanced and thus able to stand up to Ghidorah. Ghidorah still killed most of them and destroyed their civilization, but with their weapons and technology the humans were able to last long enough to help Godzilla win and the survivors were able to leave some records.
** Ancient humans had symbiotic relationships with some of the terrestrial Titans such as Mothra, who according to WordOfGod, would protect her human followers in exchange for them protecting and singing to her egg whenever she was reborn. Such humans could have been under a Titan's protection when attacked by Ghidorah and witnessed their protector fighting Ghidorah off, thus living to tell the tale.

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* If his Godzilla's just [[WalkingWasteland waltzing around is terraforming the planet]] planet]], how is there any record of him existing at all? existing? Assuming Godzilla stopped him in time whenever he tried to destroy Earth Earth, any nearby humans would've been reduced to paste.
** I forget if the source of this info is the novel or the various news articles we see in the credits, but the civilization that worshiped Godzilla and built that gigantic temple was actually quite advanced and thus able to stand up to Ghidorah. Ghidorah still killed most of them and destroyed their civilization, but with their weapons and technology technology, the humans were able to last long enough to help Godzilla win win, and the survivors were able to leave some records.
** Ancient humans had symbiotic relationships with some of the terrestrial Titans Titans, such as Mothra, who who, according to WordOfGod, would protect her human followers in exchange for them protecting and singing to her egg whenever she was reborn. Such humans could have been under a Titan's protection when attacked by Ghidorah and witnessed their protector fighting Ghidorah off, thus living to tell the tale.



* In the intimidation display scene, the humans realize that Godzilla is en route to Antarctica to deal with Ghidorah. But how could he have known that Ghidorah was about to be awakened? Emma and Jonah were planning it in secret and unless Godzilla is telepathic, there’s no logical way that a gigantic ‘’animal’’ could have been aware of the motives of two humans.
* When they arrive to the Antarctica outpost they say they are already getting a ECG signal from Ghidorah, so it's evident that he was already half-awaken from the drilling. Perhaps Ghidorah was already subconsciously emitting some sort of signal that Godzilla managed to identify.

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* In the intimidation display scene, the humans realize that Godzilla is en route to Antarctica to deal with Ghidorah. But how could he have known that Ghidorah was about to be awakened? Emma and Jonah were planning it in secret secret, and unless Godzilla is telepathic, there’s no logical way that a gigantic ‘’animal’’ could have been aware of the motives of two humans.
* When they arrive to at the Antarctica outpost outpost, they say they are already getting a an ECG signal from Ghidorah, so it's evident that he was already half-awaken from the drilling. Perhaps Ghidorah was already subconsciously emitting some sort of signal that Godzilla managed to identify.



* Frankly, I’m a bit surprised this hasn’t been brought up. How did Ghidorah make his way through deep space to Earth?
** It's unknown, in the movie they say the old legends claim he fell from the stars but that's it. Perhaps it came hibernating deep inside an asteroid, perhaps aliens purposefully left it here, our guess is as good as of anybody on MONARCH.
** I think it's worth noting that Ghidorah is an alien super-being that has abilities that quite simply don't exist on Earth including a HealingFactor that enables it to regenerate parts in minutes, survive being frozen, and an Oxygen destroyer that almost killed the strongest thing in the world. It is ''entirely'' possible that he simply flew to Earth through the void of space. Which raises more disturbing questions: Where did he come from? Are there more? Why did he choose Earth?

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* Frankly, I’m a bit surprised this hasn’t been brought up. How up, but how did Ghidorah make his way through deep space to Earth?
** It's unknown, unknown; in the movie movie, they say the old legends claim he fell from the stars stars, but that's it. Perhaps it came hibernating deep inside an asteroid, perhaps or aliens purposefully left it here, here; our guess is as good as of anybody on in MONARCH.
** I think it's worth noting that Ghidorah is an alien super-being that has abilities that quite simply don't exist on Earth Earth, including a HealingFactor that enables it to regenerate parts in minutes, survive being frozen, and an Oxygen destroyer that almost killed the strongest thing in the world. It is ''entirely'' possible that he simply flew to Earth through the void of space. Which raises more disturbing questions: Where did he come from? Are there more? Why did he choose Earth?



** It seems like they are running with it's an alien being that just doesn't follow our normal "rules" on Earth. In fiction and on Ancient Aliens, we tend to think aliens will follow all the rules that we have tested and apply to us as Earth beings. If something like Ghidorah ever showed up and broke all those rules, humanity probably would be screwed.
** Earth has been hit by a lot of asteroids and comets over its geological history, it wouldn't be too unbelievable given the setting if one of those proved to have carried a hibernating Ghidorah along from another star system.

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** It seems like they are running with it's an alien being that just doesn't follow our normal "rules" on Earth. In fiction and on Ancient Aliens, we tend to think aliens will follow all the rules that we have tested and apply to us as Earth beings. If something like Ghidorah ever showed up and broke all those rules, humanity probably would be screwed.
** Earth has been hit by a lot of many asteroids and comets over its geological history, history; it wouldn't be too unbelievable unbelievable, given the setting setting, if one of those proved to have carried a hibernating Ghidorah along from another star system.



* OK, I kinda could buy they Ecoterrorists could take by surprise the MONARCH outpost where Mothra was being contained. But after that, it seemed that no attempts were made to bolster their defenses (both electronic and physical) and put everybody on a stricter security alert. Bear in mind that Jonah's forces were just a dozen of armed people at most, and yet the Antarctica outpost falls so quickly they weren't even able to send a distress signal, and the hacking of the containment measures (something MONARCH already knew was something the terrorists were able to do) in the Isla de Mara outpost went equally fast and unimpeded. Also, the terrorists leave their Osprey right in the front of the Antarctica base, and when the MONARCH forces arrive using that same entrance... they ignore the terrorist's only way of escape? Why not leave a couple of guards, or at least do something so any of the hostile forces won't find their escape vehicle up and running just fine?

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* OK, I kinda could kind of buy they Ecoterrorists could take by surprise the eco-terrorists taking the MONARCH outpost where Mothra was being contained.contained by surprise. But after that, it seemed that no attempts were made to bolster their defenses (both electronic and physical) and put everybody on a stricter security alert. Bear in mind that Jonah's forces were just a dozen of armed people at most, and yet the Antarctica outpost falls fell so quickly they weren't even able to send a distress signal, and the hacking of the containment measures (something MONARCH already knew was something the terrorists were able to could do) in the Isla de Mara outpost went equally fast and unimpeded. Also, the terrorists leave their Osprey right in the front of the Antarctica base, and when the MONARCH forces arrive using that same entrance... they ignore the terrorist's terrorists' only way of escape? escape. Why not leave a couple of guards, or at least do something so any of the hostile forces won't find their escape vehicle up and running just fine?



** Bluntly Monarch thinks of itself as a top-level organization when in reality it's a very poorly run and thought out exercise in futility.
** Well, MONARCH in ''Film/KongSkullIsland'' and ''Film/Godzilla2014'' was a civilian research division, with minimal or nonexistent authority over the military forces attached to them (or they were attached to, depending on how you look at it). Since Godzilla and the [=MUTOs=], it's evolved towards a paramilitary organization with a kaiju-hunting focus. But there's a lot of internal inertia to overcome; the civilian scientists aren't just immediately going to fall in with military discipline and security protocol, especially if it interferes with the efficiency of their research. Essentially, behind the scenes there's probably a huge military-versus-civilian tug of war that results in security measures not being implemented, or potentially ignored if they are.
** But wouldn’t it be in the scientists’ best interests to make some compromises with their Army security attachment liaisons? I’d imagine that having criminals (or, in this case, a trained, heavily armed, and highly well-funded group of mercenaries/ecoterrorists) kill your friends and colleagues while also doing who knows what with your Titan specimen isn’t exactly in your best interest.
** It seems that Jonah and company went straight to Antarctica, one of the most isolated locations on the planet. It's possible they didn't have ''time'' to boost their security. People arriving to back them up isn't exactly the most straightforward task; the base was also entirely off the record, so MONARCH probably didn't realize Jonah knew it existed. As for Isla de Mara, it wasn't actually taken over or directly attacked: they got hacked, and their containment protocols deactivated just long enough for Rodan to be released. Both of these is likely due to Emma being a high ranking MONARCH scientist and MONARCH not realizing until after Rodan is freed she's on the bad guy's side rather than just a hostage.

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** Bluntly Monarch thinks of itself as a top-level organization when when, in reality reality, it's a very poorly run and thought out thought-out exercise in futility.
** Well, MONARCH in ''Film/KongSkullIsland'' and ''Film/Godzilla2014'' was a civilian research division, division with minimal or nonexistent authority over the military forces attached to them (or they were attached to, depending on how you look at it). Since Godzilla and the [=MUTOs=], it's evolved towards a paramilitary organization with a kaiju-hunting focus. But there's a lot of internal inertia to overcome; the civilian scientists aren't just immediately going to fall in with military discipline and security protocol, especially if it interferes with the efficiency of their research. Essentially, behind the scenes scenes, there's probably a huge military-versus-civilian tug of war tug-of-war that results in security measures not being implemented, implemented or potentially ignored if they are.
** But wouldn’t it be in the scientists’ best interests to make some compromises with their Army security attachment liaisons? I’d imagine that having criminals (or, in this case, a trained, heavily armed, and highly well-funded group of mercenaries/ecoterrorists) mercenaries/eco-terrorists) kill your friends and colleagues while also doing who knows what with your Titan specimen isn’t exactly in your best interest.
** It seems that Jonah and company went from China straight to Antarctica, one of the most isolated locations on the planet. It's possible they didn't They might not have ''time'' to boost their security. People arriving to back them up isn't exactly the most straightforward task; the base was also entirely off the record, so MONARCH probably didn't realize Jonah knew it existed. As for Isla de Mara, it wasn't actually taken over or directly attacked: they got hacked, and their containment protocols were deactivated just long enough for Rodan to be released. Both of these is are likely due to Emma being a high ranking high-ranking MONARCH scientist and MONARCH not realizing until after Rodan is freed that she's on the bad guy's side rather than just a hostage.



** As far as we know, Kong was the ''only'' monster besides Godzilla and Mothra (one being a rival alpha and the other being a symbiotic species loyal only to Godzilla’s kind) that could resist Ghidorah’s alpha song, mainly because he just couldn’t care less about what happens in the world. He’s content to live in peace on Skull Island, and [[HeroicNeutral only gets involved when it directly affects him]]. That being said, Ghidorah’s song seems to have awakened something on Skull Island, which we’ll see in the sequel.
** As we see with both Rodan (who was imminently overpowered) and Mothra (who only really distracted Ghidorah while Godzilla dealt the heavy blows and ended dying when she tries facing Ghidorah alone). It’s clear other some Titans are willing to challenge or oppose him, however Godzilla is the only Titan actually powerful enough to defeat him.

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** As far as we know, Kong was the ''only'' monster besides Godzilla and Mothra (one being a rival alpha and the other being a symbiotic species loyal only to Godzilla’s kind) that could resist Ghidorah’s alpha song, mainly because he just couldn’t care less about what happens in the world. He’s content to live in peace peacefully on Skull Island, and [[HeroicNeutral only gets involved when it directly affects him]]. That being said, Ghidorah’s song seems to have awakened something on Skull Island, which we’ll see in the sequel.
** As we see with both Rodan (who was imminently overpowered) and Mothra (who only really distracted Ghidorah while Godzilla dealt the heavy blows and ended up dying when she tries tried facing Ghidorah alone). It’s clear other some Some Titans are willing to challenge or oppose him, however him; however, Godzilla is the only Titan actually powerful enough to defeat him.



** To be fair, Ghidorah can use the Alpha Call. ALL Titans seem to have some form of BizarreAlienBiology: Mothra can go from Larva to Moth in days and has ResurrectiveImmortality; Rodan is Burning Hot; Methuselah is a Planimal, and Scylla is AnIcePerson. Most of the Titans have some secondary ability that makes them something other than gigantic animals; even the [=MUTO=]'s look more alien than him, and they are terrestrial beings. Monarch probably dismissed it as just another weirdo for the menagerie, rather than "Holy Crap, ALIEN," Ghidorahs DNA would at best, probably tell them nothing but the regeneration, which the sample might not have been conclusive to how strong they were, and the neurons scattered through the body thing, which most cephalopods have.

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** To be fair, Ghidorah can use the Alpha Call. ALL Titans seem to have some form of BizarreAlienBiology: Mothra can go from Larva to Moth in days and has ResurrectiveImmortality; Rodan is Burning Hot; Methuselah is a Planimal, and Scylla is AnIcePerson. Most of the Titans have some secondary ability that makes them something other than gigantic animals; even the [=MUTO=]'s look more alien than him, and they are terrestrial beings. Monarch probably dismissed it as just another weirdo for the menagerie, rather than "Holy Crap, ALIEN," Ghidorahs Ghidorah's DNA would would, at best, probably tell them nothing but the regeneration, which the sample might not have been conclusive to how strong they were, and the neurons scattered through the body thing, which most cephalopods have.



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* During Emma Russell's big speech, she's speaking through a live feed, but during it, it cuts to video footage. How is that possible? It cuts to this as if it was put in beforehand when it's impossible to do that with a live web broadcast. Yes, a news station or TV station, but not a live web call.

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* During Emma Russell's big speech, she's speaking through a live feed, but during it, it cuts to video footage. How is that possible? It cuts to this as if it was put in beforehand when it's impossible to do that with a live web broadcast. Yes, a news station or TV station, but not a live web call.



* Why exactly does Mark only blame Godzilla for his son’s death? Obviously Godzilla did unintentionally cause a considerable amount of damage in San Fransisco but why doesn’t Mark ever consider that it could have been the actively hostile MUTO’s that were to blame?, the opening doesn’t specify one way or the other and with only Mark’s word to go on it seems a little biased and illogical for him to pin all the blame on Godzilla.
** Emotions aren't logical. And besides, Mark hated ALL the titans. Godzilla is just the one they talk about the most.

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* Why exactly does Mark only blame only Godzilla for his son’s death? Obviously Obviously, Godzilla did unintentionally cause a considerable amount of damage in San Fransisco Fransisco, but why doesn’t Mark ever consider that it could have been the actively hostile MUTO’s MUTOs that were to blame?, the blame? The opening doesn’t specify one way or the other other, and with only Mark’s word words to go on on, it seems a little biased and illogical for him to pin all the blame on Godzilla.
** Emotions aren't always logical. And besides, Mark hated ALL the titans.Titans. Godzilla is just the one they talk about the most. \n\n[[/folder]]
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* Why does it take Madison until after Emma releases Rodan to realize that Andrew's death drove her mother nuts?
** Emma previously had Madison witness friends getting slaughtered, forced Maddie to stay with her instead of going to Mark, detonated explosives several feet away from them, and forced Maddie to leave her father for dead at Ghidorah's mercy. It isn't rocket science for one to figure out that Emma has gone mad. However, Emma brainwashed Maddie into supporting the plan and following her. It's not until Madison finally hears other people's views about her mom's plan, and Emma releases Rodan against her pleas, making matters escalate and go downhill, that Madison realizes her mom's sanity took a bigger hit from Andrew's death than she thought.
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* The temple and the city surrounding it is a MythologyGag to Seatopia, an underwater civilization who worshipped kaijus (seen in Godzilla vs Megalon). A prequel surrounding it would perhaps be helpful for the MonsterVerse.

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* The temple and the city surrounding it is a MythologyGag to Seatopia, an underwater civilization who worshipped kaijus (seen in Godzilla vs Megalon). A prequel surrounding it would perhaps be helpful for the MonsterVerse.[=MonsterVerse=].
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**She's probably just using the "Share Screen" feature to display some videos during the call.
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** It's possible if you assume Ghidorah is more of a telepathic assaulter. His call is essentially brainwashing them by affecting their senses. Given the director's previous works heavily favoring TheFairFolk tropes, it wouldn't be surprising if he got that idea from there.
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** Emotions aren't logical. And besides, Mark hated ALL the titans. Godzilla is just the one they talk about the most.
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* Why exactly does Mark only blame Godzilla for his son’s death? Obviously Godzilla did unintentionally cause a considerable amount of damage in San Fransisco but why doesn’t Mark ever consider that it could have been the actively hostile MUTO’s that were to blame?, the opening doesn’t specify one way or the other and with only Mark’s word to go on it seems a little biased and illogical for him to pin all the blame on Godzilla simply because he was the only creature alive to blame.

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* Why exactly does Mark only blame Godzilla for his son’s death? Obviously Godzilla did unintentionally cause a considerable amount of damage in San Fransisco but why doesn’t Mark ever consider that it could have been the actively hostile MUTO’s that were to blame?, the opening doesn’t specify one way or the other and with only Mark’s word to go on it seems a little biased and illogical for him to pin all the blame on Godzilla simply because he was the only creature alive to blame.
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* Why exactly does Mark only blame Godzilla for his son’s death? Obviously Godzilla did unintentionally cause a considerable amount of damage in San Fransisco but why doesn’t Mark ever consider that it could have been the actively hostile MUTO’s that were to blame?, the opening doesn’t specify one way or the other and with only Mark’s word to go on it seems a little biased and illogical for him to pin all the blame on Godzilla simply because he was the only creature to survive the battle.

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* Why exactly does Mark only blame Godzilla for his son’s death? Obviously Godzilla did unintentionally cause a considerable amount of damage in San Fransisco but why doesn’t Mark ever consider that it could have been the actively hostile MUTO’s that were to blame?, the opening doesn’t specify one way or the other and with only Mark’s word to go on it seems a little biased and illogical for him to pin all the blame on Godzilla simply because he was the only creature alive to survive the battle.
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* Why exactly does Mark only blame Godzilla for his son’s death? Obviously Godzilla did unintentionally cause a considerable amount of damage in San Fransisco but why doesn’t Mark ever consider that it could have been the actively hostile MUTO’s that were to blame?, the opening doesn’t specify one way or the other and with only Mark’s word to go on it seems a little biased and illogical for him to pin all the blame on Godzilla.

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* Why exactly does Mark only blame Godzilla for his son’s death? Obviously Godzilla did unintentionally cause a considerable amount of damage in San Fransisco but why doesn’t Mark ever consider that it could have been the actively hostile MUTO’s that were to blame?, the opening doesn’t specify one way or the other and with only Mark’s word to go on it seems a little biased and illogical for him to pin all the blame on Godzilla.
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* Why exactly does Mark only blame Godzilla for his son’s death? Obviously Godzilla did unintentionally cause a considerable amount of damage in San Fransisco but why doesn’t Mark ever consider that it could have been the actively hostile MUTO’s that were to blame for Andrew’s death?, the opening doesn’t specify one way and with only Mark’s word to go on it seems a little biased and illogical for him to pin all the blame on Godzilla.

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* Why exactly does Mark only blame Godzilla for his son’s death? Obviously Godzilla did unintentionally cause a considerable amount of damage in San Fransisco but why doesn’t Mark ever consider that it could have been the actively hostile MUTO’s that were to blame for Andrew’s death?, blame?, the opening doesn’t specify one way or the other and with only Mark’s word to go on it seems a little biased and illogical for him to pin all the blame on Godzilla.

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