Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 26 (click to see context) from:
* Can anyone tell me what was up with Batsureg's naming theme? In a game filled to the brim with {{Incredibly Lame Pun}}s, all that had to mean something, but it just looked like foreign-ish gibberish to me.
to:
* Can anyone tell me what was up with Batsureg's naming theme? In a game filled to the brim with {{Incredibly Lame Pun}}s, all that had to mean something, but it just looked like foreign-ish gibberish to me.me.
** Might have been the point, seeing as the construction of sentences in Batsureg seems a bit odd and stilted. Maybe the joke is that there is no joke?
** Might have been the point, seeing as the construction of sentences in Batsureg seems a bit odd and stilted. Maybe the joke is that there is no joke?
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 8 (click to see context) from:
*** [[AFGNCAAP The hero is the player's avatar]]. ''I'' wanted to [[spoiler:AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence]]. Though I suppose the postgame spelunking and legacy bosses and whatnot are pretty badass.
to:
*** [[AFGNCAAP [[{{AFGNCAAP}} The hero is the player's avatar]]. ''I'' wanted to [[spoiler:AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence]]. Though I suppose the postgame spelunking and legacy bosses and whatnot are pretty badass.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
*** [[AFGNCAAP The hero is the player's avatar]]. ''I'' wanted to [[spoiler:AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence]]. Though I suppose the postgame spelunking and legacy bosses and whatnot are pretty badass.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 15 (click to see context) from:
** They have a barrier that, as far as they know, cannot be pierced by physical or magical force. There's literally no point in rebelling without a way past that barrier, so they don't bother disarming prisoners- the most a rebellion could possibly do, as far as they know, is get rid of the people bringing in the food. The only reason you can bypass the barrier is because they don't realize that they's fighting the war a second time, and that as a result there's a seal from the first time not accounted for- if they knew that there ''was'' a seal not in their posession, they would have searched you.
to:
** They have a barrier that, as far as they know, cannot be pierced by physical or magical force. There's literally no point in rebelling without a way past that barrier, so they don't bother disarming prisoners- the most a rebellion could possibly do, as far as they know, is get rid of the people bringing in the food. The only reason you can bypass the barrier is because they don't realize that they's they're fighting the war a second time, and that as a result there's a seal from the first time not accounted for- if they knew that there ''was'' a seal not in their posession, possession, they would have searched you.
Changed line(s) 18 (click to see context) from:
* Its called the Gittish ''Empire'', and yet Godwyn's title is "King". Uhhh....?
to:
* Its It's called the Gittish ''Empire'', and yet Godwyn's title is "King". Uhhh....?
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
** And who's to say this isn't exactly what the hero wanted? He has [[OCStandIn no stated motive]], but he's often described as being pure of heart. He may have enjoyed his job protecting mortals more than the perks of his position, and come to love the "wander the Earth as a hero" bit even more. [[spoiler:And since it was a Fygg that made him mortal, he could have theoretically used the post-game Fygg to become a Celestrian again. Instead, he just wished to be able to see the Starflight Crew again.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 22 (click to see context) from:
** There were feathers flying everywhere during Protagonist's descent -- that was probably more than PerpetualMolt, because they could have easily been damaged by one of those energy blasts. As for the visibility question... they normally use a portal to enter the Protectorate, right? Maybe that's part of what actually renders them invisible to most mortals. Falling =/= passing through the portal, so if the portal confers any extra benefits, they wouldn't get those...
to:
** There were feathers flying everywhere during Protagonist's descent -- that was probably more than PerpetualMolt, because they could have easily been damaged by one of those energy blasts. As for the visibility question... they normally use a portal to enter the Protectorate, right? Maybe that's part of what actually renders them invisible to most mortals. Falling =/= passing through the portal, so if the portal confers any extra benefits, they wouldn't get those...those...
* Can anyone tell me what was up with Batsureg's naming theme? In a game filled to the brim with {{Incredibly Lame Pun}}s, all that had to mean something, but it just looked like foreign-ish gibberish to me.
* Can anyone tell me what was up with Batsureg's naming theme? In a game filled to the brim with {{Incredibly Lame Pun}}s, all that had to mean something, but it just looked like foreign-ish gibberish to me.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 21 (click to see context) from:
* Why does falling from the Sanctuary make Celestrians visible to mortals? It happens to both Protagonist and Corvus. And what happened to Prrotagonist's wings and halo? Corvus fell and got visible, and kept his.
to:
* Why does falling from the Sanctuary make Celestrians visible to mortals? It happens to both Protagonist and Corvus. And what happened to Prrotagonist's Protagonist's wings and halo? Corvus fell and got visible, and kept his.his.
** There were feathers flying everywhere during Protagonist's descent -- that was probably more than PerpetualMolt, because they could have easily been damaged by one of those energy blasts. As for the visibility question... they normally use a portal to enter the Protectorate, right? Maybe that's part of what actually renders them invisible to most mortals. Falling =/= passing through the portal, so if the portal confers any extra benefits, they wouldn't get those...
** There were feathers flying everywhere during Protagonist's descent -- that was probably more than PerpetualMolt, because they could have easily been damaged by one of those energy blasts. As for the visibility question... they normally use a portal to enter the Protectorate, right? Maybe that's part of what actually renders them invisible to most mortals. Falling =/= passing through the portal, so if the portal confers any extra benefits, they wouldn't get those...
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 20 (click to see context) from:
* Why the heck doesn't the game have a "randomize character appearance" button when creating new characters in the Quester's Rest? Small complaint, I know, but I liked the 3 random guys I got at the start of the game, except for one's name (Davide, which felt like a typo, but is probably correct) -- I ended up using a dice roller app, instead. ~~ [[{{Tropers/KiTA}} KiTA]]
to:
* Why the heck doesn't the game have a "randomize character appearance" button when creating new characters in the Quester's Rest? Small complaint, I know, but I liked the 3 random guys I got at the start of the game, except for one's name (Davide, which felt like a typo, but is probably correct) -- I ended up using a dice roller app, instead. ~~ [[{{Tropers/KiTA}} KiTA]]KiTA]]
* Why does falling from the Sanctuary make Celestrians visible to mortals? It happens to both Protagonist and Corvus. And what happened to Prrotagonist's wings and halo? Corvus fell and got visible, and kept his.
* Why does falling from the Sanctuary make Celestrians visible to mortals? It happens to both Protagonist and Corvus. And what happened to Prrotagonist's wings and halo? Corvus fell and got visible, and kept his.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 19 (click to see context) from:
** [[WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity Power corrupts]]? And in a few cases, it wasn't necessary the Fygg's gift that went totally awry -- like the second one, at [[spoiler: Port Llaffan. Dylan was reborn in a form that enabled him to continue providing for his daughter; the real problem was how lazy the villagers got, and Mayor Bryce's selfish {{Greed}}]]. And [[spoiler: Bloomingdale was working out alright until those greedy bandits decided to kidnap Marion..]]. Maybe the Fyggs have a [[SevenDeadlySins sin tolerance level]] that gets overloaded really easily.
to:
** [[WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity Power corrupts]]? And in a few cases, it wasn't necessary the Fygg's gift that went totally awry -- like the second one, at [[spoiler: Port Llaffan. Dylan was reborn in a form that enabled him to continue providing for his daughter; the real problem was how lazy the villagers got, and Mayor Bryce's selfish {{Greed}}]]. And [[spoiler: Bloomingdale was working out alright until those greedy bandits decided to kidnap Marion..]]. Maybe the Fyggs have a [[SevenDeadlySins sin tolerance level]] that gets overloaded really easily.easily.
* Why the heck doesn't the game have a "randomize character appearance" button when creating new characters in the Quester's Rest? Small complaint, I know, but I liked the 3 random guys I got at the start of the game, except for one's name (Davide, which felt like a typo, but is probably correct) -- I ended up using a dice roller app, instead. ~~ [[{{Tropers/KiTA}} KiTA]]
* Why the heck doesn't the game have a "randomize character appearance" button when creating new characters in the Quester's Rest? Small complaint, I know, but I liked the 3 random guys I got at the start of the game, except for one's name (Davide, which felt like a typo, but is probably correct) -- I ended up using a dice roller app, instead. ~~ [[{{Tropers/KiTA}} KiTA]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
** [[WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity Power corrupts]]? And in a few cases, it wasn't necessary the Fygg's gift that went totally awry -- like the second one, at [[spoiler: Port Llaffan. Dylan was reborn in a form that enabled him to continue providing for his daughter; the real problem was how lazy the villagers got, and Mayor Bryce's selfish {{Greed}}]]. And [[spoiler: Bloomingdale was working out alright until those greedy bandits decided to kidnap Marion..]]. Maybe the Fyggs have a [[SevenDeadlySins sin tolerance level]] that gets overloaded really easily.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* Why did the Fyggs screw up everybody's wishes so much? Most of 'em were genuine and heartfelt, and not selfish or corrupt...
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
** TruthInTelevision. The British Empire had Queen Victoria, right?
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* Its called the Gittish ''Empire'', and yet Godwyn's title is "King". Uhhh....?
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
** [[spoiler: [[FridgeBrilliance If the gratitude of all the mortals you've helped can create a Fygg, maybe it was created from the gratitude of Corvus and Serena towards the hero?]] That would explain it falling from the sky in the ending.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 14 (click to see context) from:
* How'd Aquila & Apus miss that one last Fygg? No, I'm ''not'' talking about the one TheHero go that allowed him/her to become mortal and fight Corvus...I'm talking about the ''second'' one that Lleviathan had and allowed them to join in with the starflight express.
to:
* How'd Aquila & Apus miss that one last Fygg? No, I'm ''not'' talking about the one TheHero go that allowed him/her to [[spoiler: become mortal and fight Corvus...Corvus]]...I'm talking about the ''second'' one that [[spoiler: Lleviathan had and allowed them to join in with the starflight express.Starflight Express]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
* Related to the above, I know, wouldn't be a fair gameplay challenge (specially since my character was a sage) if literally only Celestrians or part Celestrians could enter the starflight express to go to the realm of the almighty...how come your party members could follow TheHero in with no trouble yet they couldn't before?
** My thought in a separate paragraph..Maybe part of the Hero's wish with the Fygg was that his/her three chosen companions would gain temporary Celestrian Powers as well.
** My thought in a separate paragraph..Maybe part of the Hero's wish with the Fygg was that his/her three chosen companions would gain temporary Celestrian Powers as well.
Changed line(s) 11 (click to see context) from:
** They have a barrier that, as far as they know, cannot be pierced by physical or magical force. There's literally no point in rebelling without a way past that barrier, so they don't bother disarming prisoners- the most a rebellion could possibly do, as far as they know, is get rid of the people bringing in the food. The only reason you can bypass the barrier is because they don't realize that they's fighting the war a second time, and that as a result there's a seal from the first time not accounted for- if they knew that there ''was'' a seal not in their posession, they would have searched you.
to:
** They have a barrier that, as far as they know, cannot be pierced by physical or magical force. There's literally no point in rebelling without a way past that barrier, so they don't bother disarming prisoners- the most a rebellion could possibly do, as far as they know, is get rid of the people bringing in the food. The only reason you can bypass the barrier is because they don't realize that they's fighting the war a second time, and that as a result there's a seal from the first time not accounted for- if they knew that there ''was'' a seal not in their posession, they would have searched you.you.
* How'd Aquila & Apus miss that one last Fygg? No, I'm ''not'' talking about the one TheHero go that allowed him/her to become mortal and fight Corvus...I'm talking about the ''second'' one that Lleviathan had and allowed them to join in with the starflight express.
* How'd Aquila & Apus miss that one last Fygg? No, I'm ''not'' talking about the one TheHero go that allowed him/her to become mortal and fight Corvus...I'm talking about the ''second'' one that Lleviathan had and allowed them to join in with the starflight express.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 10 (click to see context) from:
** That bugged me as well. I was running around the entire place in Dragon Warrior armor and a huge sword strapped to my back.
to:
** That bugged me as well. I was running around the entire place in Dragon Warrior armor and a huge sword strapped to my back.back.
** They have a barrier that, as far as they know, cannot be pierced by physical or magical force. There's literally no point in rebelling without a way past that barrier, so they don't bother disarming prisoners- the most a rebellion could possibly do, as far as they know, is get rid of the people bringing in the food. The only reason you can bypass the barrier is because they don't realize that they's fighting the war a second time, and that as a result there's a seal from the first time not accounted for- if they knew that there ''was'' a seal not in their posession, they would have searched you.
** They have a barrier that, as far as they know, cannot be pierced by physical or magical force. There's literally no point in rebelling without a way past that barrier, so they don't bother disarming prisoners- the most a rebellion could possibly do, as far as they know, is get rid of the people bringing in the food. The only reason you can bypass the barrier is because they don't realize that they's fighting the war a second time, and that as a result there's a seal from the first time not accounted for- if they knew that there ''was'' a seal not in their posession, they would have searched you.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 9 (click to see context) from:
* When you get put in the Gortress, why don't they take any of your equipment away? I know it's a game, but still...
to:
* When you get put in the Gortress, why don't they take any of your equipment away? I know it's a game, but still...still...
** That bugged me as well. I was running around the entire place in Dragon Warrior armor and a huge sword strapped to my back.
** That bugged me as well. I was running around the entire place in Dragon Warrior armor and a huge sword strapped to my back.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 8 (click to see context) from:
** Maybe the magic system lets them warp to you with the teleport spell as long as you're technically still all in the same party?
to:
** Maybe the magic system lets them warp to you with the teleport spell as long as you're technically still all in the same party?party?
* When you get put in the Gortress, why don't they take any of your equipment away? I know it's a game, but still...
* When you get put in the Gortress, why don't they take any of your equipment away? I know it's a game, but still...
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 7 (click to see context) from:
** They apparently catch up to you after you land... "Your friends come into view". Maybe they just ride in the caboose, though. [[PeterPan Or Stella can do the whole pixie dust thing]].
to:
** They apparently catch up to you after you land... "Your friends come into view". Maybe they just ride in the caboose, though. [[PeterPan Or Stella can do the whole pixie dust thing]].thing]].
** Maybe the magic system lets them warp to you with the teleport spell as long as you're technically still all in the same party?
** Maybe the magic system lets them warp to you with the teleport spell as long as you're technically still all in the same party?
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
** Plus, it's a classic [[spoiler: HeroicSacrifice]] scenario combined with [[spoiler: AndTheAdventureContinues]]. Also, ''Dragon Quest Battle Road'' shows IX's Hero as [[spoiler: a Celestrian]], so you could always reason that [[spoiler: he eventually earns his full powers back]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 4,5 (click to see context) from:
** Shut up, its [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming hearwarming]]. >:O
* Now how in the heck do your partners travel with you when you're on the Starflight express?
* Now how in the heck do your partners travel with you when you're on the Starflight express?
to:
** Shut up, its [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming hearwarming]].heartwarming]]. >:O
* Now how in the heck do your partners travel with you when you're on the Starflightexpress?express?
** They apparently catch up to you after you land... "Your friends come into view". Maybe they just ride in the caboose, though. [[PeterPan Or Stella can do the whole pixie dust thing]].
* Now how in the heck do your partners travel with you when you're on the Starflight
** They apparently catch up to you after you land... "Your friends come into view". Maybe they just ride in the caboose, though. [[PeterPan Or Stella can do the whole pixie dust thing]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
** Shut up, its [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming hearwarming]]. >:O
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 3 (click to see context) from:
* The ending kinda got my goat. So let me get this straight, in order to finally defeat [[spoiler:Corvus]], I have to [[spoiler:demote myself to a mortal and sacrifice my opportunity to AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence, the way my character has lived their entire life for the chance to do, just so I can bypass my magical inability to attack a superior? And for my sacrifice, I'm condemned to [[RoamingTheEarth roam the Earth]] and right the wrongs with no foreseeable reward? And the Villain is redeemed, forgiven and gets to ascend and live happily ever after with his deceased girlfriend?]] [[FlatWhat What]].
to:
* The ending kinda got my goat. So let me get this straight, in order to finally defeat [[spoiler:Corvus]], I have to [[spoiler:demote myself to a mortal and sacrifice my opportunity to AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence, the way my character has lived their entire life for the chance to do, just so I can bypass my magical inability to attack a superior? And for my sacrifice, I'm condemned to [[RoamingTheEarth roam the Earth]] and right the wrongs with no foreseeable reward? And the Villain is redeemed, forgiven and gets to ascend and live happily ever after with his deceased girlfriend?]] [[FlatWhat What]].What]].
* Now how in the heck do your partners travel with you when you're on the Starflight express?
* Now how in the heck do your partners travel with you when you're on the Starflight express?
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 3 (click to see context) from:
* The ending kinda got my goat. So let me get this straight, in order to finally defeat [[spoiler:Corvus]], I have to [[spoiler:demote myself to a mortal and sacrifice my opportunity to AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence, the way my character has lived their entire life for the chance to do, just so I can bypass my magical inability to attack a superior? And for my sacrifice, I'm condemned to [[RoamingTheEarth roam the Earth]] and right the wrongs with no foreseeable reward? And the Villain is redeemed, forgiven and gets to ascend and live happily ever after with his deceased girlfriend?]] [[Flatwhat What]].
to:
* The ending kinda got my goat. So let me get this straight, in order to finally defeat [[spoiler:Corvus]], I have to [[spoiler:demote myself to a mortal and sacrifice my opportunity to AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence, the way my character has lived their entire life for the chance to do, just so I can bypass my magical inability to attack a superior? And for my sacrifice, I'm condemned to [[RoamingTheEarth roam the Earth]] and right the wrongs with no foreseeable reward? And the Villain is redeemed, forgiven and gets to ascend and live happily ever after with his deceased girlfriend?]] [[Flatwhat [[FlatWhat What]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 3 (click to see context) from:
* The ending kinda got my goat. So let me get this straight, in order to finally defeat [[spoiler:Corvus]], I have to [[spoiler:demote myself to a mortal and sacrifice my opportunity to AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence, the way my character has lived their entire life for the chance to do, just so I can bypass my magical inability to attack a superior? And for my sacrifice, I'm condemned to [[RoamingTheEarth roam the Earth]] and right the wrongs with no foreseeable reward? And the Villain is redeemed, forgiven and gets to ascend and live happily ever after with his deceased girlfriend? [[Flatwhat What]]]].
to:
* The ending kinda got my goat. So let me get this straight, in order to finally defeat [[spoiler:Corvus]], I have to [[spoiler:demote myself to a mortal and sacrifice my opportunity to AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence, the way my character has lived their entire life for the chance to do, just so I can bypass my magical inability to attack a superior? And for my sacrifice, I'm condemned to [[RoamingTheEarth roam the Earth]] and right the wrongs with no foreseeable reward? And the Villain is redeemed, forgiven and gets to ascend and live happily ever after with his deceased girlfriend? girlfriend?]] [[Flatwhat What]]]].What]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 2 (click to see context) from:
** Holding hands or something so they count as one person? All of them kept a finger on the Seal?
to:
** Holding hands or something so they count as one person? All of them kept a finger on the Seal?Seal?
* The ending kinda got my goat. So let me get this straight, in order to finally defeat [[spoiler:Corvus]], I have to [[spoiler:demote myself to a mortal and sacrifice my opportunity to AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence, the way my character has lived their entire life for the chance to do, just so I can bypass my magical inability to attack a superior? And for my sacrifice, I'm condemned to [[RoamingTheEarth roam the Earth]] and right the wrongs with no foreseeable reward? And the Villain is redeemed, forgiven and gets to ascend and live happily ever after with his deceased girlfriend? [[Flatwhat What]]]].
* The ending kinda got my goat. So let me get this straight, in order to finally defeat [[spoiler:Corvus]], I have to [[spoiler:demote myself to a mortal and sacrifice my opportunity to AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence, the way my character has lived their entire life for the chance to do, just so I can bypass my magical inability to attack a superior? And for my sacrifice, I'm condemned to [[RoamingTheEarth roam the Earth]] and right the wrongs with no foreseeable reward? And the Villain is redeemed, forgiven and gets to ascend and live happily ever after with his deceased girlfriend? [[Flatwhat What]]]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 1 (click to see context) from:
* How were the party members able to get through the barriers in Gortress without getting hurt? TheHero was able to pass through because of the Gittish Seal he had, but the party members didn't have one of their own.
to:
* How were the party members able to get through the barriers in Gortress without getting hurt? TheHero was able to pass through because of the Gittish Seal he had, but the party members didn't have one of their own.own.
** Holding hands or something so they count as one person? All of them kept a finger on the Seal?
** Holding hands or something so they count as one person? All of them kept a finger on the Seal?
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 1 (click to see context) from:
Click the edit button to start this new page.
to:
