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** Her father is rich. Chances are she wants to make it independent of her father, and is lamenting that she can't, and keeps needing to ask him for money.
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* Okay, this has been going through my mind. So Chi-Chi's always lamenting on how she doesn't have enough money, but yet you see her shopping for food, clothes (in the Super Android 13 movie), and ''a lot'' of study materials for Gohan. That's confusing if you ask me.
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** Strange question.

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** Strange question.
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** Strange question.
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** Chi-Chi wanted him to talk politely, even if she doesn't herself?

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** Chi-Chi wanted him to learn to talk politely, even if she doesn't herself?
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** Chi-Chi wanted him to talk politely, even if she doesn't herself?
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*** Also, there are animal people and monster people on their Earth.
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** Ah, makes sense now. Thanks above two tropers. :)
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*** So imagine, if you will, an American mother finding out that her son goes into a super mode where his hair turns into a green spiked mohawk and his clothes turn into spiked leather, and you'll see what Chi-Chi was worried about.
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** [[Tropers/{{MsCC93}} I]] guess Chi-Chi didn't freak out about Gohan's tail because she always saw Goku with a tail when both of them were children, so I guess she was thinking "Well, my husband had a tail when he was little, so it must be normal for Goku to have one," or like what you mentioned: Goku may have explained to Chi-Chi. Also, to be fair to Chi-Chi, she wasn't complaining about not having a normal family in the subbed versions of the show or the manga. The "normal family" thing is only present in the English dubs of the show. Also, as far as Chi-Chi freaking out about Gohan and Goku going Super Saiyan, let's apply ValuesDissonance here. Super Saiyans have blonde hair, and in Japan, blonde hair is usually seen as a sign of being a delinquent, which is why Chi-Chi was so worried about Gohan turning into a "punker."

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** [[Tropers/{{MsCC93}} I]] guess Chi-Chi didn't freak out about Gohan's tail because she always saw Goku with a tail when both of them were children, so I guess she was thinking "Well, my husband had a tail when he was little, so it must be normal for Goku Gohan to have one," or like what you mentioned: Goku may have explained to Chi-Chi. Also, to be fair to Chi-Chi, she wasn't complaining about not having a normal family in the subbed versions of the show or the manga. The "normal family" thing is only present in the English dubs of the show. Also, as far as Chi-Chi freaking out about Gohan and Goku going Super Saiyan, let's apply ValuesDissonance here. Super Saiyans have blonde hair, and in Japan, blonde hair is usually seen as a sign of being a delinquent, which is why Chi-Chi was so worried about Gohan turning into a "punker."
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** [[Tropers/{{MsCC93}} I]] guess Chi-Chi didn't freak out about Gohan's tail because she always saw Goku with a tail when both of them were children, so I guess she was thinking "Well, my husband had a tail when he was little, so I don't see anything wrong with Gohan having one," or like what you mentioned: Goku may have explained to Chi-Chi. Also, to be fair to Chi-Chi, she wasn't complaining about not having a normal family in the subbed versions of the show or the manga. The "normal family" thing is only present in the English dubs of the show. Also, as far as Chi-Chi freaking out about Gohan and Goku going Super Saiyan, let's apply ValuesDissonance here. Super Saiyans have blonde hair, and in Japan, blonde hair is usually seen as a sign of being a delinquent, which is why Chi-Chi was so worried about Gohan turning into a "punker."

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** [[Tropers/{{MsCC93}} I]] guess Chi-Chi didn't freak out about Gohan's tail because she always saw Goku with a tail when both of them were children, so I guess she was thinking "Well, my husband had a tail when he was little, so I don't see anything wrong with Gohan having it must be normal for Goku to have one," or like what you mentioned: Goku may have explained to Chi-Chi. Also, to be fair to Chi-Chi, she wasn't complaining about not having a normal family in the subbed versions of the show or the manga. The "normal family" thing is only present in the English dubs of the show. Also, as far as Chi-Chi freaking out about Gohan and Goku going Super Saiyan, let's apply ValuesDissonance here. Super Saiyans have blonde hair, and in Japan, blonde hair is usually seen as a sign of being a delinquent, which is why Chi-Chi was so worried about Gohan turning into a "punker."
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** [[Tropers/{{MsCC93}} I]] guess Chi-Chi didn't freak out about Gohan's tail because she always saw Goku with a tail when both of them were children, so I guess she was thinking "Well, my husband had a tail when he was little, so I don't see anything wrong with Gohan having one," or like what you mentioned: Goku may have explained to Chi-Chi. Also, to be fair to Chi-Chi, she wasn't complaining about not having a normal family in the subbed versions of the show or the manga. The "normal family" thing is only present in the English dubs of the show. Also, as far as Chi-Chi freaking out about Gohan and Goku going Super Saiyan, let's apply ValuesDissonance here. Super Saiyans have blonde hair, and in Japan, blonde hair is usually seen as a sign of being a delinquent, which is why Chi-Chi was so worried about Gohan turning into a "punker."
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** I think it's to show how different he is to Goku. Goku was basically an alien boy growing up by himself in the wilderness, and Gohan's a half-human boy living with family. Er, yeah, that's just me WildMassGuessing. :D

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** I think it's to show how different he is to Goku. Goku was basically an alien boy growing up by himself in the wilderness, and Gohan's a half-human boy living with family. Er, yeah, that's just me WildMassGuessing. :D
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** She still has Goten. While granted it doesn't make up for the fact that her husband and eldest son are both, as far as she knows, dead, she's still got something to live for.


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** I think it's to show how different he is to Goku. Goku was basically an alien boy growing up by himself in the wilderness, and Gohan's a half-human boy living with family. Er, yeah, that's just me WildMassGuessing. :D
* Considering how Chi-Chi ''really'' wants to have a normal family, it's somewhat FridgeHorror/FridgeLogic when you think about Gohan's birth. Here you have a baby with a monkey tail. How could Chi-Chi have reacted to it with anything but demanding the tail to be removed? Did Goku explain this to her in a way of "Well, I used to have a tail when I was his age, so it's natural"? She seems to be very comfortable with her baby having a monkey tail, yet when she finds that he can turn Super Saiyan ten years later, she falls to her knees weeping.
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* Where would Son Gohan as a four-year-old toddler learn how to use the polite-masculine for of ''boku'' to refer to himself, or any of his ''extremely'' polite speech ''period.'' Remember; he is homeschooled in the mountains up to this point, and ''everyone'' in his life uses coarse-and-rude ''Osaka-Ben'' (the "Hillbilly Tongue" of Japanese) and the rude-'''masculine''' ''Ora'' (even his own MOTHER) to refer to themselves: How and where would he have learnt to talk like a young gentleman when the three grown-ups in his life talk like Hillbillies crossed with Eminem?
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**** It doesn't seem to be something actively turn on or off though. More just something that you do. Case in point Vegeta and Goku were in the middle of what (for at least one of them, it's not entirely clear how hard Goku was pushing other than he could have gone SSJ3 if Vegeta had given him the time) is an all out fight and both of them immediately sense Buu. Everybody thought Frieza was dead and had no reason to be sensing energy then either but they all noticed Frieza on the approach as well. And the OP points out ki signatures are unique. Unique enough that Goku instantly identifies Kamicollo even though he'd never met him but knew Kami and Picollo prior. Even if they couldn't ID them that way it should have simply been okay not Vegeta, Gohan or Piccolo. I should go say hi to the fourth most powerful being in the universe. As another above poster mentions it's also a bit strange that Chi-Chi didn't tell Gohan and immediately at that. After all her baby was turning into a delinquent!

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**** It doesn't seem to be something actively turn on or off though. More just something that you do. Case in point Vegeta and Goku were in the middle of what (for at least one of them, it's not entirely clear how hard Goku was pushing other than he could have gone SSJ3 [=SSJ3=] if Vegeta had given him the time) is an all out fight and both of them immediately sense Buu. Everybody thought Frieza was dead and had no reason to be sensing energy then either but they all noticed Frieza on the approach as well. And the OP points out ki signatures are unique. Unique enough that Goku instantly identifies Kamicollo even though he'd never met him but knew Kami and Picollo prior. Even if they couldn't ID them that way it should have simply been okay not Vegeta, Gohan or Piccolo. I should go say hi to the fourth most powerful being in the universe. As another above poster mentions it's also a bit strange that Chi-Chi didn't tell Gohan and immediately at that. After all her baby was turning into a delinquent!
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** Come to think of it, they probably would know what Trunks' and Goten's ki signatures sensed like, so it wouldn't be like they'd worry that this was a completely different being all together. Still, the question remains: why didn't they investigate when Trunks' and Goten's ki signatures suddenly shot up to Super Saiyan levels?
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Thanks for answering my question Sean Renaud, but I\'ll remove my question since Headscratchers isn\'t for complaining about characters, and that\'s what I felt I was doing.
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** Good points, but it still bugs me a lot. Because I do think Toriyama was unfair to ChiChi the most, because the other females (18 and Bulma) were shown as perfect parents compared to her. And her and Goku get picked on a lot by the fanbase (calling them the worst parents in TV existence) for their less than perfect parenting skills.
*** I think that's a best because we see virtually nothing of 18 and Bulma as parents as opposed to Chi-chi who actually gets a lot of screen time.
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**** It doesn't seem to be something actively turn on or off though. More just something that you do. Case in point Vegeta and Goku were in the middle of what (for at least one of them, it's not entirely clear how hard Goku was pushing other than he could have gone SSJ3 if Vegeta had given him the time) is an all out fight and both of them immediately sense Buu. Everybody thought Frieza was dead and had no reason to be sensing energy then either but they all noticed Frieza on the approach as well. And the OP points out ki signatures are unique. Unique enough that Goku instantly identifies Kamicollo even though he'd never met him but knew Kami and Picollo prior. Even if they couldn't ID them that way it should have simply been okay not Vegeta, Gohan or Piccolo. I should go say hi to the fourth most powerful being in the universe. As another above poster mentions it's also a bit strange that Chi-Chi didn't tell Gohan and immediately at that. After all her baby was turning into a delinquent!

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** Good point. Trunks even mentioned that occasionally he and Goten would go Super Saiyan before play-sparring each other. It's worse for Goten, because you'd think Chi-Chi would have told Gohan by now that Goten can go Super Saiyan.

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** Good point. Trunks even mentioned that occasionally he and Goten would go Super Saiyan before play-sparring each other. It's worse for Goten, because you'd think Chi-Chi would have told Gohan by now that Goten can go Super Saiyan. Saiyan.
*** Presumably they weren't looking for it. Being able to sense energy doesn't mean it's always on, nor does it mean you're always watching it so closely as to identify who it is whenever you get a whiff of it.
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** Good point. Trunks even mentioned that occasionally he and Goten would go Super Saiyan before play-sparring each other. It's worse for Goten, because you'd think Chi-Chi would have told Gohan by now that Goten can go Super Saiyan.
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* How the hell were Vegeta and Gohan unaware of Goten and Trunks having achieved Super Saiyan Status? For starters it's established in DBZ that each person has a unique power signature to the point that until they figure out that Cell's "flavor" is Neopolitan everybody is terribly confused by him and he couldn't risk raising his power level at all or he'd be tracked down. So everybody capable of sensing energy should have known as soon as they did it, especially since it's clear that Goten has little formal training on that level having received it via Chi-Chi and Trunks and Vegeta clearly must have been training Trunks for precision instead of raw power for some reason. Even baring that the number of SSJ level powers on the planet should have been just three. Vegeta, Gohan, and Picolo. It would be excusable, if Vegeta wasn't completely aware that Gohan hadn't been training, for Vegeta to assume two strong powers were Picolo and Gohan sparing but what did Picolo and Gohan think of it? Sure Frieza's not a threat to anybody anymore but he can still blow up a planet! A power level that high should have warranted a quick fly over followed by 'oh, it's just them.'
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*** I think that's a best because we see virtually nothing of 18 and Bulma as parents as opposed to Chi-chi who actually gets a lot of screen time.
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** Good points, but it still bugs me a lot. Because I do think Toriyama was unfair to ChiChi the most, because the other females (18 and Bulma) were shown as perfect parents compared to her. And her and Goku get picked on a lot by the fanbase (calling them the worst parents in TV existence) for their less than perfect parenting skills.
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** We're forgetting the fact that Chilled was busted by Super Saiyan Bardock. Who was a low level Saiyan, probably around Raditz's power level, maybe a league over it. Taking acount of some effect of the Zenkai power after he survived Freezer's beam, his super saiyan form was kind of enough to defeat an untransformed Chilled. Maybe. I don't care, it's FanonDiscontinuity to me.
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** It's also the only way to make sense of someone blocking ''energy'' with his body. Otherwise, part of the beam would have reached Gohan passing between Piccolo's legs.

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****** More likely, it's because he's not used to ''being a Super Saiyan in everyday life''. Normally, that's a mode he only uses in life-or-death battles, which tend to last only a few minutes (despite it seeming much longer due to the pacing of the story) and in which no attempt is made to restrain the added strength. So Goku was restraining himself to the degree that he normally does, it's just that he was dozens of times stronger than he normally is.




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** Whatever problems Gero had, insecurity about his appearance wasn't one of them.



** It's likely he wouldn't submit and any jail not owned by one of the cast would hold Roshi precisely as long as he felt like getting free food and shelter. Its easy to forget since he can't blow up planets but Roshi is a genuine bad ass by any standards that don't involve Frieza.

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** It's likely he wouldn't submit and any jail not owned by one of the cast would hold Roshi precisely as long as he felt like getting free food and shelter. Its easy to forget since he can't blow up planets (moons, yes, but not planets) but Roshi is a genuine bad ass by any standards that don't involve Frieza.
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** I don't think he guards in the physical sense so much as the spiritual sense; he ''is'' the god of the planet[[hottip:*: beneath King Kai who is god of the galactic quadrant, Grand Kai who is god of the galaxy, and Supreme Kai who is god of the universe, and used to be god of the northern quadrant of the universe until Buu absorbed the other four quadrant gods and the universal god. Divinity in DBZ is very much like a pyramid scheme.]], remember, and has been shown dealing with the passage to the afterlife and negotiating of where in the afterlife people go. Plus, the threats kinda exceeded his ability to handle after Piccolo, and he DID provide consistent aid, training, and sanctuary for his Champions after that.

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** I don't think he guards in the physical sense so much as the spiritual sense; he ''is'' the god of the planet[[hottip:*: planet[[note]] beneath King Kai who is god of the galactic quadrant, Grand Kai who is god of the galaxy, and Supreme Kai who is god of the universe, and used to be god of the northern quadrant of the universe until Buu absorbed the other four quadrant gods and the universal god. Divinity in DBZ is very much like a pyramid scheme.]], [[/note]], remember, and has been shown dealing with the passage to the afterlife and negotiating of where in the afterlife people go. Plus, the threats kinda exceeded his ability to handle after Piccolo, and he DID provide consistent aid, training, and sanctuary for his Champions after that.
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***** While it's definitely powers as the plot demands the same change the fact that Tien had to have improved a great deal very quickly. 17 might have taken him out with one kick but he's implied to be stronger than 18 and 18 basically one shotted SSJ Vegeta once she was done playing around with him. I'm not implying that Tien was on par with SSJ Vegeta only that it wouldn't shock me in the least to find out that he was on par with Ginyu or even 1st Form Frieza.

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