History Headscratchers / ClassicDisneyShorts

** Steamboat Willie is far more remembered due to the fact that it was the first cartoon with sound, making more people watch the cartoon, putting Mickey Mouse on the map.

*** Turns out Goofy jr. and Max are the same character. While the character rarely appeared in comics in the old days, comic artist Tony Strobl did redesign "Junior" with black hair and longer ears ("The Goofy Adventure Story" comics adaptation, 1957), bridging the two models.

** Goofy jr. and Max

* Steamboat Willie is far more remembered due to the fact that it was the first cartoon with sound, making more people watch the cartoon, putting Mickey Mouse on the map.

* If Plane Crazy was Mickey's first appearance. While Steamboat Willie was the first cartoon with sound and was also Mickey and Minnie's first appearance. Then why is Steamboat Willie more well known then Plane Crazy? I mean, Steamboat Willie was seen on one of Disney's newer logos along with the boat making an appearance in Walt Disney World's version of Fantasmic. Why didn't Steamboat Willie get more well known? Heck, alot of people believe the Steamboat Willie was Mickey,Minnie and Pete's first appearance yet. Pete appeared in the Alice Comedies and Mickey and Minnie first appeared in Plane Crazy. Was it the way Mickey was portrayed in Plane Crazy or was it the prototype of Mickey and Minnie?

** Although to be fair, {{Ducktales}} had [[PutOnABus Donald joining the Navy at the beginning of the series.]]

** There's a reason Walt Disney loathed that short. Until the day he died he said that short was his biggest mistake.

** There's a reason Walt Disney loathed that short. Until the day he died he said that short was his only mistake.

* I know the Pete jr. (or PJ) from {{Goof Troop}} originated from the "Bellboy Donald" (1942) Junior just like Max from {{Goof Troop}} originated from the red-headed, "Fathers are People" (1951) Goofy jr., but the {{Goof Troop}}/{{A Goofy Movie}} versions of the two characters don't look much like the original versions. In fact, they look so different from each other that I think the original and modern day versions of both of the characters as separate entities. Even though the original and modern day versions of Mickey, Minnie, Clarabelle, Horace, Donald, and Goofy look pretty different from each other, I still see both versions of those six characters as one entity.

*** The modern day (GoofTroop, AGoofyMovie, and ''An Extremely Goofy Movie'') Pete jr., better known as PJ, is overweight like his dad, has a double chin, has small ears like his dad, is shy, and is a loyal friend to Max.

*** The modern day (GoofTroop, AGoofyMovie, ''An Extremely Goofy Movie'', and HouseOfMouse) Max has black hair, a black nose, looks more like his dad, Goofy, has longer ears than the original version, and is less earnest and humble but more "normal" than his dad.

* How come people say that Mickey Mouse was supposed to be a total JerkAss pretty much just because he kissed Minnie Mouse against her will in his very FIRST short? Walt Disney made him nicer on his own in the early thirties. Sure, he isn't as nice as he is portrayed in shows like "Mickey Mouse Clubhouse" and maybe even some episodes of "House of Mouse," but he's still a generally nice guy and a hero.
* I'm sure I ain't alone on this; I ''hated'' DonaldDuck's {{Flanderization}}/OutOfFocus that resulted from Chip n' Dale's introduction. Earlier on, Donald's toons didn't have to limit themselves to a single formula. They had more variety, and as a result, the Duck showed more personality. Stuff like ''Donald's Crime'' and ''TheThreeCaballeros'' showed a promising future for him. Cue the damn chipmunks, and observe Don's filmography suddenly plagued by repetitive stories and major loss of character.
** The cartoons themselves aren't without their problems. Contrary to popular belief, Donald ''rarely'' started the fights. You could argue that he wants to cut the chipmunks' trees and whatnot, but just how is he gonna know they're living there? There's no malice intended! That there's usually DisproportionateRetribution coming up for Don doesn't help the case a bit.

* How can Donald ''Duck'' have Gus ''Goose'' as a cousin? And the extended DonRosa McDuck family tree also includes coots, which aren't even in the Anseriformes (duck/goose) family.

*** The original, "Bellboy Donald" Junior (Pete called him that in the cartoon he debuted in), looks a lot like Mickey Mouse, looked somewhat kitty-like, has proportionately bigger ears than his dad, is in shape, is devious, spunky, and confident, and dressed a lot like Little Lord Fauntleroy.

*** The original, "Bellboy Donald" Junior (Pete called him that in the cartoon he debuted in), looks a lot like Mickey Mouse, looked somewhat kitty-like, has proportionately bigger ears than his dad, is in shape, is devious, spunky and confident, and dressed a lot like Little Lord Fauntleroy.

** The cartoons themselves aren't without their problems. Contrary to popular belief, Donald ''rarely'' started the fights. You could argue that he wants to cut the chipmunks' trees and whatnot, but just how is he gonna know they're living there? There's no malice intended! That there's usually DisproportionateRetribution coming up for Don doesn't help the case a bit.

** [[MST3KMantra Because classic Disney shorts are wierd]].

* I'm sure I ain't alone on this; I ''hated'' DonaldDuck's {{Flanderization}}/OutOfFocus that resulted from Chip n' Dale's introduction. Earlier on, Donald's toons didn't have to limit themselves to a single formula. They had more variety, and as a result, the Duck showed more personality. Stuff like ''Donald's Crime'' and ''TheThreeCaballeros'' showed a promising future for him. Cue the damn chipmunks, and observe Don's filmography plagued by repetitive stories and major loss of character.

* I'm sure I ain't alone on this; I ''hated'' DonaldDuck's {{Flanderization}}/OutOfFocus that resulted from Chip n' Dale's introduction. Contrary to popular belief, Donald ''rarely'' started the fights. You could argue that he wants to cut the chipmunks' trees and whatnot, but just how is he gonna know they're living there? There's no malice intended! That there's usually DisproportionateRetribution coming up for Don doesn't help the case a bit.

* You might have heard this before: Donald Duck never wears pants, yet he always wears a towel when he gets out of the shower! Why is that?

* How come people say that Mickey Mouse was supposed to be a total JerkAss pretty much just because he kissed Minnie Mouse against her will in his very FIRST short? Walt Disney made him nicer on his own in the early thirties. Sure, he isn't as nice as he is portrayed in shows like "Mickey Mouse Clubhouse" and maybe even some episodes of "House of Mouse," but he's still a generally nice guy and a hero.

** [[MST3KMantra Because classic Disney shorts are wierd]].

* Not exactly orginal, but how come Goofy's a dog (supposedly) and gets to live in a house, have a job, talk, etc. while Pluto is a pet that lives like and acts like...well a pet dog; he doesn't talk, have a job, or have any human-like freedoms.

* Not exactly orginal: but how come Goofy's a dog (supposedly) and gets to live in a house, have a job, talk, etc while Pluto is a pet that lives like and acts like...well a pet dog; he doesn't talk, have a job, or any human like freedoms.

* How can Donald ''Duck'' have Gus ''Goose'' as a cousin? And the extended DonRosa McDuck family tree also includes coots, which aren't even in the Anseriformes (duck/goose) family.

* How can Donald ''Duck'' have Gus ''Goose'' as a cousin? And the extended CarlBarks McDuck family tree also includes coots, which aren't even in the Anseriformes (duck/goose) family.

* How can Donald ''Duck'' have Gus ''Goose'' as a cousin? And the extended DonRosa McDuck family tree also includes coots, which aren't even in the Anatidae (duck/goose) family.

** There's a reason Walt Disney loathed that short. Until the day he died he said that short was his only mistake.