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\n** Most likely, Jake had a second belt plate made, hid it in the evidence locker, and when Bill (fake Charles) stole the safe and extracted the belt, he swapped the original name plate with the second, and then re-hid it in the evidence box where Amy would find it, then ran off with the tracker.

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** He became publicly known as a result of the publicity around the accidental drug bust help, and there was probably some pressure to give him a visible reward to show the public that 'heroes' get recognised in the NYPD. So they stuck him in the 99's suddenly-vacant Captaincy. The thinking was probably that if he turned out to be great, then excellent. If he royally screwed up, they could shunt him out the way quietly once he was no longer in the spotlight. If he was merely ineffectual, then considering the 99 functioned fine under McGinley, there wouldn't be much trouble there, either.
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** Peralta arrested him because of their pre-existing history and knowing his MO, even if they released him such a thing can be construed as police harassment and Holt said early in the episode it opens the door for a lawsuit. Right at the deadline his lawyer was there talking about just that. The 48 hour window exists to sequester suspects (especially flight risks) so they can get the case paperwork squared away before officially charging them with the crime, it's not to arbitrarily badger a civilian into a confession. Arresting him, releasing him and arresting him again, even with proper evidence, doesn't look good on the precinct either (it's not exactly double jeopardy but infringes on similar rights).
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** Fired? How is Gina even still alive? Some of her antics would have merited a beating at least by an enraged coworker (spiking everyone's drink with cement when they were all distress at the imminent closing of the Precinct comes to mind) let alone people like Rosa or Pimento who could easily sweep into homicidal rage when pushed at the wrong time.
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** They've also gotten married fairly well into what appears to have been a very long-term relationship. Could be, they're just both used to / comfortable with keeping their previous names and feel no need to change them. They also simply might not believe in doing so; it's a tradition, certainly, but it is increasingly common for married couples to keep their prior names.

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** They've also gotten married fairly well late into what appears to have been a very long-term relationship. Could be, they're just both used to / comfortable with keeping their previous names and feel no need to change them. They also simply might not believe in doing so; it's a tradition, certainly, but it is increasingly common for married couples to keep their prior names.
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** its possible he had a second belt with the revised message the entire time, and hid it in the evidence locker, meanwhile the actual belt was in fake Charles's possession the entire time (making either Jake or Fake Charles the secret winner of the Halloween heist)

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* How could Charles and Genevieve adopt a kid together without being married?

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* How could Charles and Genevieve adopt a kid together without being married?married?
** You don't have to be married to adopt. The primary criteria is to be able to provide a safe and stable home life for the child.
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** But did he ever have time to do that? It doesn't seem like the Cummerbund was ever back in his possession since Charles betrayed him right at the beginning of the heist.

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** But did he ever have time to do that? It doesn't seem like the Cummerbund was ever back in his possession since Charles betrayed him right at the beginning of the heist.heist.

* How could Charles and Genevieve adopt a kid together without being married?
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** It's possible that he made a second plate for the Cummberbund beforehand and simply switched them when he got possession of it after stealing Amy's safe.

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** It's possible that he made a second plate for the Cummberbund beforehand and simply switched them when he got possession of it after stealing Amy's safe.safe.
** But did he ever have time to do that? It doesn't seem like the Cummerbund was ever back in his possession since Charles betrayed him right at the beginning of the heist.
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* It's a lovely, heartwarming moment, but... in "[=HalloVeen=]", when did Jake find an opportunity to have his message engraved onto the Championship Cummerbund?

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* It's a lovely, heartwarming moment, but... in "[=HalloVeen=]", when did Jake find an opportunity to have his message engraved onto the Championship Cummerbund?Cummerbund?
** It's possible that he made a second plate for the Cummberbund beforehand and simply switched them when he got possession of it after stealing Amy's safe.
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* It's a lovely, heartwarming moment, but... in "HalloVeen", when did Jake find an opportunity to have his message engraved onto the Championship Cummerbund?

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* It's a lovely, heartwarming moment, but... in "HalloVeen", "[=HalloVeen=]", when did Jake find an opportunity to have his message engraved onto the Championship Cummerbund?
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** They've also gotten married fairly well into what appears to have been a very long-term relationship. Could be, they're just both used to / comfortable with keeping their previous names and feel no need to change them. They also simply might not believe in doing so; it's a tradition, certainly, but it is increasingly common for married couples to keep their prior names.

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** They've also gotten married fairly well into what appears to have been a very long-term relationship. Could be, they're just both used to / comfortable with keeping their previous names and feel no need to change them. They also simply might not believe in doing so; it's a tradition, certainly, but it is increasingly common for married couples to keep their prior names.names.

* It's a lovely, heartwarming moment, but... in "HalloVeen", when did Jake find an opportunity to have his message engraved onto the Championship Cummerbund?
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** Could be for professional reasons. They've both built up impressive professional careers in the respective fields, and when professionals do that it is not unheard of for them to keep their unmarried names because it makes it easier to track professional progress and name-brand familiarity. Holt may also feel he's faced enough stigma in his career with the NYPD being a black gay man in an interracial marriage without adding in changing his surname.

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** Could be for professional reasons. They've both built up impressive professional careers in the respective fields, and when professionals do that it is not unheard of for them to keep their unmarried names because it makes it easier to track professional progress and name-brand familiarity. Holt may also feel he's faced enough stigma in his career with the NYPD being a black gay man in an interracial marriage without adding in changing his surname.surname.
** They've also gotten married fairly well into what appears to have been a very long-term relationship. Could be, they're just both used to / comfortable with keeping their previous names and feel no need to change them. They also simply might not believe in doing so; it's a tradition, certainly, but it is increasingly common for married couples to keep their prior names.

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* Why do Holt and Kevin have separate last names? They're married and very much in love, yet they have't taken each other's last names yet.

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* Why do Holt and Kevin have separate last names? They're married and very much in love, yet they have't haven't taken each other's last names yet.yet.
** Could be for professional reasons. They've both built up impressive professional careers in the respective fields, and when professionals do that it is not unheard of for them to keep their unmarried names because it makes it easier to track professional progress and name-brand familiarity. Holt may also feel he's faced enough stigma in his career with the NYPD being a black gay man in an interracial marriage without adding in changing his surname.
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** The guy is likeable and knows the rules, he knows enough to skate by if you are not listening him to closely. He could certainly rise based on that, plus he seems good at taking credit for others work. It happens often enough in real life that people can get promoted based less on competence and more on personality. Exaggerated for comedy, of course, but not that unbelievable.

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** The guy is likeable and knows the rules, he knows enough to skate by if you are not listening him to closely. He could certainly rise based on that, plus he seems good at taking credit for others work. It happens often enough in real life that people can get promoted based less on competence and more on personality. Exaggerated for comedy, of course, but not that unbelievable.unbelievable.

* Why do Holt and Kevin have separate last names? They're married and very much in love, yet they have't taken each other's last names yet.
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** A combination of RuleOfFunny and, unfortunately, TruthInTelevision. Quite often people are promoted ''because'' they can't do anything else, removing them from the ground-level work and letting their subordinates get on with the job. Of course, it often ends in disaster, but it's usually just a quick-fix method of removing someone from a job without firing them. Given that the Nine-Nine have a reputation for chaos, the high-ups probably just dumped C.J. there and thought it couldn't get much worse.

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** A combination of RuleOfFunny and, unfortunately, TruthInTelevision. Quite often people are promoted ''because'' they can't do anything else, removing them from the ground-level work and letting their subordinates get on with the job. Of course, it often ends in disaster, but it's usually just a quick-fix method of removing someone from a job without firing them. Given that the Nine-Nine have a reputation for chaos, the high-ups probably just dumped C.J. there and thought it couldn't get much worse.worse.
** The guy is likeable and knows the rules, he knows enough to skate by if you are not listening him to closely. He could certainly rise based on that, plus he seems good at taking credit for others work. It happens often enough in real life that people can get promoted based less on competence and more on personality. Exaggerated for comedy, of course, but not that unbelievable.
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* How in Gods green Earth did C.J. become a captain!? All he did was accidentally help a drug bust as, most likely, a beat cop! He is clearly incompetent and lacks the brains and ability to do even a half-way decent job! He also took nine years to complete a 6 month program!

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* How in Gods green Earth did C.J. become a captain!? All he did was accidentally help a drug bust as, most likely, a beat cop! He is clearly incompetent and lacks the brains and ability to do even a half-way decent job! He also took nine years to complete a 6 month program!program!
** A combination of RuleOfFunny and, unfortunately, TruthInTelevision. Quite often people are promoted ''because'' they can't do anything else, removing them from the ground-level work and letting their subordinates get on with the job. Of course, it often ends in disaster, but it's usually just a quick-fix method of removing someone from a job without firing them. Given that the Nine-Nine have a reputation for chaos, the high-ups probably just dumped C.J. there and thought it couldn't get much worse.
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* How in Gods green Earth did C.J. become a captain!? All he did was accidentally help a drug bust as a civilian! He is clearly incompetent and lacks the brains and ability to do even a half-way decent job!

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* How in Gods green Earth did C.J. become a captain!? All he did was accidentally help a drug bust as as, most likely, a civilian! beat cop! He is clearly incompetent and lacks the brains and ability to do even a half-way decent job!job! He also took nine years to complete a 6 month program!
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* How in Gods green Earth did C.J. become a captain!? All he did was accidentally help a drug bust as a civilian! He is clearly incompetent and lacks the brains and ability to do even a half-way decent job! Did the NYPD just offer him a reward and gave him the position of captain when he said so? From what we've seen, he didn't do any of the tests nessessary to obtain that position. Even if the criminal had been Osama bin Laden, the NYPD wouldn't just give a dim-witted civilian the job of police captain!

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* How in Gods green Earth did C.J. become a captain!? All he did was accidentally help a drug bust as a civilian! He is clearly incompetent and lacks the brains and ability to do even a half-way decent job! Did the NYPD just offer him a reward and gave him the position of captain when he said so? From what we've seen, he didn't do any of the tests nessessary to obtain that position. Even if the criminal had been Osama bin Laden, the NYPD wouldn't just give a dim-witted civilian the job of police captain!job!
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** RuleOfFunny, mainly. Although it's worth noting that there actually ''is'' a bravery medal for animals (it's run by a British animal welfare charity, however; the NYPD doesn't award them that I'm aware of), usually for ones which do something incredibly brave and/or risk their lives to benefit their human handlers.

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** RuleOfFunny, mainly. Although it's worth noting that there actually ''is'' a bravery medal for animals (it's run by a British animal welfare charity, however; the NYPD doesn't award them that I'm aware of), usually for ones which do something incredibly brave and/or risk their lives to benefit their human handlers.handlers.

* How in Gods green Earth did C.J. become a captain!? All he did was accidentally help a drug bust as a civilian! He is clearly incompetent and lacks the brains and ability to do even a half-way decent job! Did the NYPD just offer him a reward and gave him the position of captain when he said so? From what we've seen, he didn't do any of the tests nessessary to obtain that position. Even if the criminal had been Osama bin Laden, the NYPD wouldn't just give a dim-witted civilian the job of police captain!
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** Wuntch also benefits from being the boss. As many an underling will tell you, a jerkass boss can be very hard to get rid of because (a) they're the ones who are in charge of setting and enforcing the rules, (b) the other bosses are generally going to be more inclined to close ranks and protect their own if anyone complains unless the jerkass boss is ''really'' bad, and (c) a jerkass boss is both usually the kind of person who'll spitefully go after anyone who tries to undermine or complain about them out of petty revenge and is in a position to make a subordinate's life a ''real'' misery, thus discouraging more junior members from doing anything. So people will just likely keep their heads down and not make waves unless Wuntch does something she ''really'' can't wriggle out of.

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** Wuntch also benefits from being the boss. As many an underling will tell you, a jerkass boss can be very hard to get rid of because (a) they're the ones who are in charge of setting and enforcing the rules, (b) the other bosses are generally going to be more inclined to close ranks and protect their own if anyone complains unless the jerkass boss is ''really'' bad, and (c) a jerkass boss is both usually the kind of person who'll spitefully go after anyone who tries to undermine or complain about them out of petty revenge and (d) is in a position to make a subordinate's life a ''real'' misery, thus discouraging more misery if they really set their minds to it. So junior members subordinates will be discouraged from doing anything. So people reporting her and will just likely keep their heads down and not make waves unless Wuntch does something she ''really'' can't wriggle out of.
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** Wuntch also benefits from being the boss. As many an underling will tell you, a jerkass boss can be very hard to get rid of because (a) they're the ones who are in charge of setting and enforcing the rules, (b) the other bosses are generally going to be more inclined to close ranks and protect their own if anyone complains unless the jerkass boss is ''really'' bad, and (c) a jerkass boss is usually the kind of person who'll spitefully go after anyone who tries to undermine or complain about them out of petty revenge, thus discouraging more junior members from doing anything. So people will just likely keep their heads down and not make waves unless Wuntch does something she ''really'' can't wriggle out of.

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** Wuntch also benefits from being the boss. As many an underling will tell you, a jerkass boss can be very hard to get rid of because (a) they're the ones who are in charge of setting and enforcing the rules, (b) the other bosses are generally going to be more inclined to close ranks and protect their own if anyone complains unless the jerkass boss is ''really'' bad, and (c) a jerkass boss is both usually the kind of person who'll spitefully go after anyone who tries to undermine or complain about them out of petty revenge, revenge and is in a position to make a subordinate's life a ''real'' misery, thus discouraging more junior members from doing anything. So people will just likely keep their heads down and not make waves unless Wuntch does something she ''really'' can't wriggle out of.
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** Same as with Gina. She does the rest of her job fine and unless Holt is going to complain himself (and he's put himself at risk of counter complaint with his own petty acts against her, so he really can't) then nobody is going to care. Bad behaviour on its own is not enough to get a person fired, somebody also has to lodge a complaint about that behaviour before anything happens.
** Wuntch also benefits from being the boss. As many an underling will tell you, a jerkass boss can be very hard to get rid of because (a) they're the ones who are in charge of setting and enforcing the rules, (b) the other bosses are generally going to be more inclined to close ranks if anyone complains unless the jerkass boss is ''really'' bad, and (c) a jerkass boss is usually the kind of person who'll spitefully go after anyone who tries to undermine them out of revenge, thus discouraging more junior members from doing anything. So people will just likely keep their heads down and not make waves unless Wuntch does something she ''really'' can't wriggle out of.

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** Same as with Gina. She does the rest of her job fine and unless Holt is going to complain himself (and he's put himself at risk of counter complaint counter-complaint with his own petty acts against her, so he really can't) then nobody is going to care. Bad behaviour on its own is not enough to get a person fired, somebody also has to lodge a complaint about that behaviour before anything happens.
** Wuntch also benefits from being the boss. As many an underling will tell you, a jerkass boss can be very hard to get rid of because (a) they're the ones who are in charge of setting and enforcing the rules, (b) the other bosses are generally going to be more inclined to close ranks and protect their own if anyone complains unless the jerkass boss is ''really'' bad, and (c) a jerkass boss is usually the kind of person who'll spitefully go after anyone who tries to undermine or complain about them out of petty revenge, thus discouraging more junior members from doing anything. So people will just likely keep their heads down and not make waves unless Wuntch does something she ''really'' can't wriggle out of.

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** There's also a bit of BunnyEarsLawyer going on; she's an annoying jerk, but she does her job sufficiently well to cover it. Some of this can also be put down to Gina being a {{Troll}} or just general RuleOfFunny.




* At the ceremony where Boyle gets his Medal of Valor, a police horse gets the same Medal. How could a horse have also gotten a Medal of Valor? I know that the horse was there to get all the attention because of Boyle's bad luck but are police horses ever given high-honor medals? If so, what for?

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\n** Wuntch also benefits from being the boss. As many an underling will tell you, a jerkass boss can be very hard to get rid of because (a) they're the ones who are in charge of setting and enforcing the rules, (b) the other bosses are generally going to be more inclined to close ranks if anyone complains unless the jerkass boss is ''really'' bad, and (c) a jerkass boss is usually the kind of person who'll spitefully go after anyone who tries to undermine them out of revenge, thus discouraging more junior members from doing anything. So people will just likely keep their heads down and not make waves unless Wuntch does something she ''really'' can't wriggle out of.

* At the ceremony where Boyle gets his Medal of Valor, a police horse gets the same Medal. How could a horse have also gotten a Medal of Valor? I know that the horse was there to get all the attention because of Boyle's bad luck but are police horses ever given high-honor medals? If so, what for?for?
** RuleOfFunny, mainly. Although it's worth noting that there actually ''is'' a bravery medal for animals (it's run by a British animal welfare charity, however; the NYPD doesn't award them that I'm aware of), usually for ones which do something incredibly brave and/or risk their lives to benefit their human handlers.
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** Same as with Gina. She does the rest of her job fine and unless Holt is going to complain himself (and he's put himself at risk of counter complaint with his own petty acts against her, so he really can't) then nobody is going to care. Bad behaviour on its own is not enough to get a person fired, somebody also has to lodge a complaint about that behaviour before anything happens.

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** Same as with Gina. She does the rest of her job fine and unless Holt is going to complain himself (and he's put himself at risk of counter complaint with his own petty acts against her, so he really can't) then nobody is going to care. Bad behaviour on its own is not enough to get a person fired, somebody also has to lodge a complaint about that behaviour before anything happens.happens.

*At the ceremony where Boyle gets his Medal of Valor, a police horse gets the same Medal. How could a horse have also gotten a Medal of Valor? I know that the horse was there to get all the attention because of Boyle's bad luck but are police horses ever given high-honor medals? If so, what for?
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** If they release him then, knowing he is onto them, he has time to hide or destroy the evidence they need. Plus there was an insinuation that Peralta was probably going to be in trouble if they didn't find ''something'' to charge the guy with before the timer ran out.

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** If they release him then, knowing he Peralta is onto them, him, he has time to hide or destroy the evidence they need. Plus there was an insinuation that Peralta was probably going to be in trouble if they didn't find ''something'' to charge the guy with before the timer ran out.

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In the episode 48 Hours, Jake arrests someone without any evidence and they have 48 hours to find proof. Here's a question; If Jake didn't have any proof, couldn't they just release the guy, find evidence, and re-arrest him? Did they really need to keep him there for 48 hours? Could they have just released him upon finding out Jake didn't have any proof?

How has Gina not been fired? She's constantly rude to everyone except Holt, gets next to no work done, assaults other employees, steals workplace supplies, hits on Terry repeatedly even though she knows he's married, throws important case files in the garbage, and generally makes work harder for everyone else. Any real secretary would've been fired within a week.

How has Wuntch not been fired, either? She's made it clear that she doesn't care about the community, only ruining Holt's career, she constantly abuses her position, is willing to ruin the career's of Holt's employees just to spite hom, and once even broke the law by hiring a spy to spy on the Nine-Nine.

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* In the episode 48 Hours, Jake arrests someone without any evidence and they have 48 hours to find proof. Here's a question; If Jake didn't have any proof, couldn't they just release the guy, find evidence, and re-arrest him? Did they really need to keep him there for 48 hours? Could they have just released him upon finding out Jake didn't have any proof?

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** If they release him then, knowing he is onto them, he has time to hide or destroy the evidence they need. Plus there was an insinuation that Peralta was probably going to be in trouble if they didn't find ''something'' to charge the guy with before the timer ran out.

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How has Gina not been fired? She's constantly rude to everyone except Holt, gets next to no work done, assaults other employees, steals workplace supplies, hits on Terry repeatedly even though she knows he's married, throws important case files in the garbage, and generally makes work harder for everyone else. Any real secretary would've been fired within a week.

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** Holt's predecessor let the squad run riot under him, and that means the squad just got used to her antics; classic broken step syndrome. If nobody is prepared to lodge an official complaint (which it seems they are not) then nothing is going to happen. She seems to do her secretarial work just fine, so Holt seems happy with that.

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How has Wuntch not been fired, either? She's made it clear that she doesn't care about the community, only ruining Holt's career, she constantly abuses her position, is willing to ruin the career's of Holt's employees just to spite hom, him, and once even broke the law by hiring a spy to spy on the Nine-Nine.Nine-Nine.
** Same as with Gina. She does the rest of her job fine and unless Holt is going to complain himself (and he's put himself at risk of counter complaint with his own petty acts against her, so he really can't) then nobody is going to care. Bad behaviour on its own is not enough to get a person fired, somebody also has to lodge a complaint about that behaviour before anything happens.
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In the episode 48 Hours, Jake arrests someone without any evidence and they have 48 hours to find proof. Here's a question; If Jake didn't have any proof, couldn't they just release the guy, find evidence, and re-arrest him? Did they really need to keep him there for 48 hours? Could they have just released him upon finding out Jake didn't have any proof?

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In the episode 48 Hours, Jake arrests someone without any evidence and they have 48 hours to find proof. Here's a question; If Jake didn't have any proof, couldn't they just release the guy, find evidence, and re-arrest him? Did they really need to keep him there for 48 hours? Could they have just released him upon finding out Jake didn't have any proof?proof?

How has Gina not been fired? She's constantly rude to everyone except Holt, gets next to no work done, assaults other employees, steals workplace supplies, hits on Terry repeatedly even though she knows he's married, throws important case files in the garbage, and generally makes work harder for everyone else. Any real secretary would've been fired within a week.

How has Wuntch not been fired, either? She's made it clear that she doesn't care about the community, only ruining Holt's career, she constantly abuses her position, is willing to ruin the career's of Holt's employees just to spite hom, and once even broke the law by hiring a spy to spy on the Nine-Nine.
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In the episode 48 Hours, Jake arrests someone without any evidence and they have 48 hours to find proof. Here's a question; If Jake didn't have any proof, couldn't they just release the guy, find evidence, and re-arrest him? Did they really need to keep him there for 48 hours? Could they have just released him upon finding out Jake didn't have any proof?

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