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** Perhaps Komamura is a clue since he seems trapped midway between animal and human, and it's at least hinted he comes from a family of these since apparently, apparently the reason he hates carrots is because his father told him it's not food for their kind.
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** Perhaps Komamura is a clue since he seems trapped midway between animal and human, and it's at least hinted he comes from a family of these since apparently, the reason he hates carrots is because his father told him it's not food for their kind.
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** I don't recall it ever being said that SS was overcrowded, just that some areas were more populated than others. Seireti isn't crowded at all, and the upper Rukongai districts don't look that bad either[[http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091218064722/bleach/en/images/3/3a/Rukongai-bleach.jpg]]. We also see lots of greenland in SS[[http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100921134061/bleach/en/images/4/41/TosenMeetingHisagi.jpg]]. Seireti seems to have less than other places, but it's still there. The Noble families have grass and trees around their manors/compounds[[http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100825161617/bleach/en/images/d/d7/KuchikiFamilyCompound.jpg]] and their own rivers, apparently. There's some areas around Sogyoku Hill that look like small forests [[http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100903084237/bleach/en/images/d/dd/Senzaikyu.png]]. There's also some mainly green areas around the Second Division barracks[[http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100825144051/bleach/en/images/9/94/2ndBarracks.jpg]] and the Nest of Maggots [[http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090226111527/bleach/en/images/b/b7/The_Maggots_Nest.jpg]], the Eleventh Division barracks[[http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110316212061/bleach/en/images/3/38/11th_Division_Barracks.jpg]], and Ugendo (where Ukitake recovers when he's sick)[[http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100825185729/bleach/en/images/f/f5/UkitakeRecoveryRoom.jpg]]. Outside of the Seireti is the Rukongai, which contains mountains/trees/large green areas. In fact, we see Kenpachi find Yachiru in a forest-like area. Grass is common in SS, just not in the parts we're used to seeing in the story. Most of the Soul Society Arc is about Ichi-crew running through this[[http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100825143453/bleach/en/images/f/fe/Seireitei.jpg]].
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* I think the concept of the afterlife in Bleach Universe might be based off of the Six Domains of the Desire Realm in Buddhism[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_realms]]. The place the Soul King resides is (in theory, since we haven't seen it in the story) the Deva/God Realm[[hottip:*:The Deva realm is the realm of bliss. The disadvantage of this realm is that things are so very comfortable there, that these beings completely neglect to work towards enlightenment. Instead they gradually use up the good karma they had previously accumulated, and so they subsequently fall to a lower rebirth. The Deva realm is sometimes also referred to as the gods' realm, because its inhabitants are so powerful within their own realm, that compared to humans, they resemble the gods of Greek or Roman mythology. However, while the Devas may be referred to as gods, they are not immortal, omniscient, nor omnipotent, and they do not act as creators or judges at death.]]. Soul Society is the Asura Realm[[hottip:*:The Asura realm is the realm of the demigods. They are here because of actions based on jealousy, struggle, combat or rationalization of the world. They may be here because in human form they had good intentions but committed bad actions such as harming others. The Asuras are said to experience a much more pleasurable life than humans, but they are plagued by envy for the devas, whom they can see just as animals can perceive humans.]]. The Human World is the Human Realm. Hueco Mundo is the Preta/Hungry Ghost Realm[[hottip:*:The sentient beings in this realm are known as "hungry ghosts". They are constantly extremely hungry and thirsty, but they cannot satisfy these needs. In Tibetan versions of the Bhavacakra these beings are drawn with narrow necks and large bellies. This represents the fact that their desires torment them, but they are completely unable to satisfy themselves.]]. Hell is the Naraka/Hell Realm[[hottip:*:The Naraka realm is a rebirth based on strong states of hatred cultivated in a previous life or lives. Those being punished in this realm are not trapped permanently. Rather, they remain there until their negative karma is used up, at which point they are reborn into another realm.]]. The only one that doesn't seem to fit with Bleach is the Animal Realm[[hottip:*:The Animal realm (also known as the Tiryag-yoni realm) is based on strong mental states of stupidity and prejudice cultivated in a previous life or lives. Buddhists believe that this realm is the realm of existence of the nonhuman animals on Earth. Humans can however be seen by the animals, in the same way that the Asura can see the Devas.]]. There haven't been any animals shown in Soul Society aside from the Hogs that Ganju and his gang had and the Hell Butterflies, so perhaps they go to their own afterlife?
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** They made them up (like Kenpachi), remembered the names they had before they died, or met other "family" in Soul Society and used their name.
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** It's probably a translation of an idiom for "countless" or "myriad" or something like that. When it's said that Japan has eight million gods, it doesn't literally mean eight million it means "more gods than we can count". "Myriad" is ancient Greek for "10,000". In a sentence saying "Soul Society has not changed in myriad years" someone could translate it rather literally to "Soul Society has not changed in 10,000 years". Of course, if Kubo did mean one million, that's another matter.
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* One million years? In chapter 476, Rukia had better be exaggerating when she says that [[http://www.mangareader.net/bleach/476/12 Soul Society has not changed in one million years.]] Forget the 2,000 years of Yamamoto when people first moved to Japan in the first/third century AD; forget the weird aging; and now forget that modern humans have only been around for about 100,000 years. Seriously, Kubo?
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** I've seen other translations which say he's basically saying that he won't ''kill'' a woman not that he won't fight one. That does make more sense because this manga has a history of having a lot of the male good guys go easy on female characters they're fighting against or have females paired off against females. There's also the issue of her being a human female where shinigami are sworn to avoid unnecessary killing of humans unless authorised. Just because Kenpachi killed one doesn't mean the others wouldn't have a problem with it. After all, at least one of Kenpachi's own subordinates has issues with killing humans. Earlier in the manga, Yumichika was the only member of Hitsugaya's advance guard to concern himself with how humans might be affected by the battles and to try and do something about it to protect them.
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*** Two things, a couple of off hand references do indicate that there is authentication. Second, there was NO way to see through what was happening. Aizen used his zanpakuto to create the illusion Central 46 was still running normally. And as we know, there's no way to beat that. Basically, he short circuited the entire process by destroying the head and replacing it in such a way no one would even have a chance of noticing it.
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*** One could interpret it as their spirit-bodies that turn to reishi, and the soul goes back to the living world since it's free again. Also, the Sokyoku may be a special case, in which the soul is just obliterated entirely.
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* So I just read Renji's first fight after the Time Skip against [[spoiler: Jackie Tristan,]] and some of his lines got me scratching my head. He seems to have picked up quite the chivalrous attitude over the past year, like letting her attack first, because she's a girl(and not in a humorous way, he's completely serious when he says this), or won't finish her off [[spoiler: when not doing so will likely kill him]] because "A man that raises his hand to a woman is trash." Trying to put aside my own feelings for a moment, this kind of thinking doesn't even make sense in the context of the series: Renji is a part of the Gotei 13, an organization that presumably has no qualms of throwing women into the front lines. Many women [[spoiler: now including his best friend Rukia]] share his same rank, and there are even a few that are, or have been higher ranked. That's like Kakashi saying he wouldn't hit a female enemy ninja just because she's a girl when he has a female Hokage in power. In conclusion, nothing about Renji's upbringing implies he would have a problem cutting down a girl, and his statements just come off as even more sexists than it would in RealLife.
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** There's no indication shinigami are naturally immortal. In fact, given the way the Central 46 reacted to Aizen's immortality on top of the fact we've seen that shinigami age, the indications are strong that long-lived does not equal immortality. In many real life systems, a sentence of "life" does not mean "for that individual's natural lifespan", it generally means for the maximum possible sentence that legal sytem can dole out - in Japan, a 'life sentence' really means an imprisonment in which an offender cannot seek parole for a minimum of 10 years, but how long they actually remain in prison may vary depending on situation. Since they have a special term for prisoners who have a genuine life sentence (as in for the rest of their natural life), 'life' doesn't automatically mean that. Add in the complication of a shinigami's extended life-span and we have absolutely no idea how long 'life' actually is for a shinigami sentence. We therefore can't easily compare it to Aizen's sentence.
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** Why would she? She's been trained from a very young age to be a personal body guard to the leader of a clan that traditionally controlled an entire organisation of assassins (among other things), and is now in charge of that very same organisation, not to mention also being in charge (at the same time) of an entire military division that's charged with protecting society. And that's before we get to the subject of why a Chinese character in a Japanese setting would ever adhere to a Christian concept. While Buddhism has its own set of restraints on the subject of killing, that just brings us back to her role as an assassin and a leader of both assassin and military divisions.
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** Why would she? She's been trained from a very young age to be a personal body guard to the leader of a clan that traditionally controlled an entire organisation of assassins (among other things), and is now in charge of that very same organisation, not to mention also being in charge (at the same time) of an entire military division that's charged with protecting society. And that's before we get to the subject of why a Chinese character in a Japanese setting would ever adhere to a Christian concept. While Buddhism has its own set of restraints on the subject of killing, that just brings us back to her role as an assassin and a leader of both assassin and military divisions. That's also ignoring the fact she likes to play the tough guy.
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** Depending on the answer to other questions on this page, people may very well not remember the real world, so no democracy, no suburban commuting, no industrial revolution. Equally opinions are split on whether or not this is the afterlife for all peoples or not.
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* Central 46's judicial process and subsequent judgments: Even setting aside Rukia's sentence (which wasn't actually handed down by the Central 46), their "justice" system makes no sense. Tessai was sentenced to (extremely long, if not immortal) life in prison (at the "3rd level") for using a forbidden kido. Urahara Kisuke was sentenced to removal of powers and eternal banishment to earth for experimenting with Hollowfication on captains. In contrast, Kurotsuchi Mayuri has been unethically experimenting to his heart's content without a peep from the Central 46. This raises the issue that Central 46 (and, to a somewhat lesser degree, the Gotei 13) seem to have the attitude that as long as it's not us/Sereitei, it doesn't matter. But the real headbanger is how they responded to Aizen Sousuke: the man who was discovered to have actually been behind the Hollowfication of the Vaizards, the man who killed the previous Central 46, who created most of the current Espada, who was trying to ''wipe out Soul Society'' was sentenced to 18,800 years in prison. That's ''less'' time than Tessai was sentenced to! Granted, Aizen was sentenced to the highest (8th) level of the prison, but the fact that Aizen could be released--without even having his powers removed--in the future just makes no sense to this troper, particularly considering Tessai and Urahara's sentences.
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* Central 46's judicial process and subsequent judgments: Even setting aside Rukia's sentence (which wasn't actually handed down by the Central 46), their "justice" system makes no sense. Tessai was sentenced to (extremely long, if not immortal) life in prison (at the "3rd level") for using a forbidden kido. Urahara Kisuke was sentenced to removal of powers and eternal banishment to earth for experimenting with Hollowfication on captains. In contrast, Kurotsuchi Mayuri has been unethically experimenting to his heart's content without a peep from the Central 46. This raises the issue that Central 46 (and, to a somewhat lesser degree, the Gotei 13) seem to have the attitude that as long as it's not us/Sereitei, it doesn't matter. But the real headbanger is how they responded to Aizen Sousuke: the man who was discovered to have actually been behind the Hollowfication of the Vaizards, the man who killed the previous Central 46, who created most of the current Espada, who was trying to ''wipe out Soul Society'' was sentenced to 18,800 years in prison. That's ''less'' time than Tessai was sentenced to! Granted, Aizen was sentenced to the highest (8th) level of the prison, but the fact that Aizen could be released--without even having his powers removed--in the future just makes no sense to this troper, particularly considering Tessai and Urahara's sentences.
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*On another note, what, the people who died in the 20th/21st century just put up with a feudal system? This troper doesn't know about the Japanese or other tropers, but she would sure as hell start a revolution...And the Shinigami can hardly afford to kill large parts of the population in Rukongai, can they? With their job being keeping the balance of souls in check and everything...
*On another note, what, the people who died in the 20th/21st century just put up with a feudal system? This troper doesn't know about the Japanese or other tropers, but she would sure as hell start a revolution...And the Shinigami can hardly afford to kill large parts of the population in Rukongai, can they? With their job being keeping the balance of souls in check and everything...
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*** This troper always assumed that the rate at which you age in Soul Society is inveresely proportional to the amount of spirit power you actively use. Meaning, the more you use, the slower you age and the other way around. That would explain how Renji and Rukia were able to grow up relatively fast as kids - since they used only small amounts of spirit power - but stopped almost completely once they were accepted into the academy. It is also the only way to explain how the world is not MAJORLY imbalanced when it comes to living humans vs. dead people. That is, if dead people have such long *cough* life spans *cough*, and a new human only is born when a soul reincarnates...major mathematical issue, anyone? (Then again, how to account for population growth is really beyond this troper....)
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* Among Soi Fong's exact words were, "All who get in my way are my enemies. All enemies must be slain. That is all that matters." Why would she say that? Would some of the people that get in the way include innocent bystanders and children? Does she not believe in ThouShaltNotKill?
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**** Actually we have seen the 'real' Central 46 in action. They're the one's who condemned Urahara, Tessai and Yoruichi on seriously paltry evidence, without giving them any chance to defend themselves. Noteworthy, because the condemned were all high officials, with Yoruichi being the heir of one of the Four Great Noble Houses. Other than that, Sereitei is demonstrably not a benevolent government. Urahara, before becoming a Captain, was in charge of a prison for 'dissidents', which is anyone who disagreed with the current system. Kurotsuchi Mayuri used his division shinigami as living bombs, obviously without consent, with no demonstrable consequence. Kon is a prime example of Soul Society's attitude towards sentient, if artificial, creations. Also, it should be noted that Aizen got away with impersonating the Central 46 because of the rigid, I-will-not-question-orders attitude of Yamamoto et al. The fact that districts like Zaraki exist mean one of two things - Sereitei cannot control all of Rukongai or Sereitei allows the situation there to persist. Neither imply good governance. So, yeah...Soul Society is a CrapsackWorld.
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** Waaaaaaaiiiiitttt...if everyone looked how they were when they died on earth, this troper is confused. Hitsuyaga. Isane. Gin. What WERE they? Albino?!
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*** Also? He's NOT DEAD YET. Er, we think. I'm pretty sure being dead is a basic requirement. (Not to mention what that would do to his school attendance, which has to be pretty bad already.)
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* This is less important, but why, if people like Renji, Gin, and Rangiku were homeless, without knowing (or not liking) any blood relatives, why do they have last names?
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* Two words: Soul Society. What's the deal? Yes, it's the "afterlife", but its portrayal in the story is in no way consistent with such an explanation. People evidently are born, mature, and die there (Rukia and Renji grew from children to adults; Kira prays at his parents' grave before going to the shinigami academy in a flashback episode), and they seem to have families that are completely independent of the world of the living. Plus, Soul Society, large as it is, is still just one city. You're telling me that every single person who's ever died (minus the people who are sent to hell) is living there? And for that matter, why aren't there any people there who aren't Japanese (besides [[Main/ChineseGirl Soifon]], I guess)? Do all the other cultures get their own Soul Societies or something? And what's with the ghetto/caste system? Can you imagine croaking it at age 93 and waking up in the 80th district?
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* Central 46's judicial process and subsequent judgments: Even setting aside Rukia's sentence (which wasn't actually handed down by the Central 46), their "justice" system makes no sense. Tessai was sentenced to (extremely long, if not immortal) life in prison (at the "3rd level") for using a forbidden kido. Urahara Kisuke was sentenced to removal of powers and eternal banishment to earth for experimenting with Hollowfication on captains. In contrast, Kurotsuchi Mayuri has been unethically experimenting to his heart's content without a peep from the Central 46. This raises the issue that Central 46 (and, to a somewhat lesser degree, the Gotei 13) seem to have the attitude that as long as it's not us/Sereitei, it doesn't matter. But the real headbanger is how they responded to Aizen Sousuke: the man who was discovered to have actually been behind the Hollowfication of the Vaizards, the man who killed the previous Central 46, who created most of the current Espada, who was trying to ''wipe out Soul Society'' was sentenced to 18,800 years in prison. That's ''less'' time than Tessai was sentenced to! Granted, Aizen was sentenced to the highest (8th) level of the prison, but the fact that Aizen could be released--without even having his powers removed--in the future just makes no sense to this troper, particularly considering Tessai and Urahara's sentences.
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*** The manga actually revealed that it wasn't normal for Rukia's crime to receive a death sentence. Aizen's first introduction into the manga was when he took Renji to one side and discussed this point with him. He actually [[TheChessmaster revealed]] part of his own plot to Renji at that point - he pointed out that Rukia was receiving a sentence too harsh for her crime. Then he pointed out that she was receiving a method of execution someone of her rank is never given (it's a captain's rank execution method). Then he said this can only mean there's a person behind it all plotting a conspiracy. On top of that, it was also made clear that a captain doesn't have the power or right to question the orders of the Central 46. Byakuya also made two conflicting vows - one to his parents, one to his wife. Unfortunately for him, filial piety means a vow to parents trumps a vow to a wife, which is why he chose to uphold the vow to his parents despite his true heart lying with the vow to his wife. Ichigo gave him the means by which he could uphold both vows by staying the execution long enough for Aizen's treachery to be revealed which meant that Byakuya could both uphold the law and protect his sister at the same time. He also helped Byakuya find a middle ground between his rebellious youth and rules-lawyering self-correction of that rebellious youth.
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*** Of the ten captains not causing the execution, two try to phsiycally stop it(8,13), one tries to get it repealed(10), one investigates the origin of the order(4), two question it but follow orders(6,7), and two don't care either way (11,12). So yeah, no objection.
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*** But if we do say that Rukia spent 80 years as a street urchin, the last 10 was spent living with Renji and his ragtag group of boys before they decided to become Shinigami. So she met him as a 70 year old kid. But, seeing them both standing on the hill with the graves, we see that they have aged "normally" as you say, into teenager-dom. Why would Rukia's physical appearance accelerate in so little time compared to before? It took her 70 years to physically age approx. 10 years (from a baby) while it took only 10 years to physically age approx. 5 years more? She even had spiritual pressure while at that age, so using the excuse that shinigami age slower than Rukongai's ordinary inhabitants, she should've aged more slowly than before.
