History Headscratchers / Ben10AlienForce

** The plumbers on Earth WERE plumbers, they were just follwing standard procedure.
** And, hey, whatever happened to the Alien prison from Secret of the Omnitrix? Now they just dump EVERYTHING into the Null Void. (This editor is expecting that at one point, when someone throws somthing into the Null Void, they will get a paper spewed at them saying "We are full. Go away."

** Eh, there was never anything in the first series that said that Ben DIDN'T get hurt when his alien forms get hurt. He just doesn't get hurt that often. And if damage really does carry over through all transformations, I assume he could heal most injuries just by turning into Swampgas and regenerating.

*** He did get a black eye once when fighting as Swampfire. I think he was fighting a highbreed, but the main issue on that episode has to deal with his parents fining out.

** He was a necrofrigian at the time and they asexualy reproduce.

** It was implied that his aprentice was a dick, and couldn't even make his own omnitrix without piggybacking on Ben's.

*** SO far we've seenn the 'trix
*** Piss all over the laws of conservation of mass
*** Be cabbly of destroying the entire UNIVERSE
*** Able to initiate some sort of rapid growth

** 2) Not having seen all of "Secret", I can't give a full answer, but if Azmuth's exile was self-imposed, he may have decided to return due to the very real threat of the Highbreed. Idunno. Also, I thought they only considered the "What if?" episodes (the ones opening with a comic book) to be non-canon.

** Because they knew she was partially an energy being and figured that if Gwen wanted to go to that other world she could very well make up her own mind. Also do not forget in the end it is proven she too can shift from human to andonite form at will.

** Not to mention that the Voices are pretty much just huge hypocrites who really want to debate more than actually follow their supposed ideals. As an example; he asked peace-and-kindness-loving Serena to end the conflict by eliminating the planet buster. No dice. Then he asked war-and-destruction-loving Bellicus to just tear the ships apart. Nope. There is precicely one thing they will always agree on; they want to keep debating. They don't want Ben to actually make decisions and do things, they just want a third party to debate with.

*** I see your point. Paradox is effectively a GOD. Not even a superman-esque PhysicalGod, I'm talking about a Doctor Manhattan on steroid ''with the ability to actually act'' i.e. a puppet that can see the strings, kick the puppeteer in the balls AND take over. In ANY other media, one would need a huge DeusExitMachina to make the stories interesting. In ''Alien Force''?
** It seems to me that Paradox acts under a sort of TemporalPrimeDirective that prevents him from doing too much except give cryptic advices and the occasional teleportation. It makes sense anyways, since for an eternal being such as himself, everything already happened, and whatever he does may change history. Also, it keeps the trend of [[Series/DoctorWho the Doctor]], who does not seem to always remember he has a space and time traveling machine of ginormous capacity at hand.

* How exactly are the Highbreed more Powerful than Vilgax? On a threat level Vilgax was capable of destroying planets single-handedly, creating black holes to destroy even ''more'' planets, and is such a bastard that the plumbers are all terrified of him, and most lifeforms are unwilling to work with him, so he has to use robots. In contrast, the plumbers don't seem to consider the Highbreed as much of a threat, andconstantly hire bounty hunters and suchlike. On a physical level, Ben never stood a snowballs chance in hell chance against Vilgax in any of their fights, whereas he could beat a highbreed in a fair fight. On a personal level, Vilgax is completely remorseless and relentless, and will stop at nothing to achieve his goals. The Highbreed, after [[spoiler:getting healed by the Omnitrix, and losing their "purity" pretty much say "Oh, okay. we're sorry we were so mean, we'll be nice now. What, our strictly held beliefs that we've held for eons in regards to species purity? Nah, forget those."]] What the hell? If they'd ever tried [[TalkingTheMonsterToDeath making peace with Vilgax]], he would've stabbed them with their own Olive Branch, beaten them to death with [[CarFu Kevin's stupid car]] and blown up the solar system for good measure.
** Well, there's a lot ''more'' of them than there are of Vilgax. Vilgax is apparantly one lone, rogue member of his species, an interstellar gangster whose resources are pretty much confined to one ship. The Highbreed have the numbers, infrastructure and planning to launch a coordinated war against the galaxy. Vilgax can be a hundred times stronger than any Highbreed, but if there's a million Highbreed, they still win. And were the Plumbers ever really scared of Vilgax? Max was scared for ''Ben'', because Vilgax has every reason to kill Ben, but whenever he's facing down Vilgax alone (such as the flashback scene with the missile), he comes off as pretty badass.

** Cloning and regeneration take time, young padawan. He needed the implants before because he wasn't waiting. This time, he did wait long enough that he wouldn't need implants. As for the voice... [[TheOtherDarrin we have a trope for that]] and its not that big a deal.

** A video by someone on YouTube put context clues together from all of the shows, and the ''Generator Rex'' crossover that are given to conclude that Bellwood is located in New York State.

** It's probally a ressevive gene, her species as a whole seems rather free spirited and seeing as she probaly met Max in the golden age of the hippies it seems to make sence.

** It get's worse when you realize that Helen and Manny thought the Null Void portal was a disintegrator. Oh man......Then that would mean that H&M's form of "Alien Fighting" was to DISINTEGRATE ANY ALIEN THEY FOUND, WITHOUT TRIAL. DEAR GOD. So they were planning to do this (at least Manny) to a bunch of teenagers that they saw trying to save people from THEIR fuck up. This editor immediately lost all respect for them.

*** WordOfGod is that 'interspecies breeding aids are common throughout the galaxy', I hope that explains it.

** He cheated on his human wife with a visiting Asbestonian. Mrs. Onfire never found out because he's a MisterSeahorse.

*** ''That was asexual.'' only in {{Fanon}}. I'd love to see WordofGod discuss ''that'' issue...
** For aliens ancestrey perhaps Pyronites can turn off there flames but we never saw Ben do that because there was no reson for him to do so.

** Surprised no one's answered this one by now. These are easily answered if you do some thinking and digging on the Ben 10 Wiki. 1. It's been 5 years. Ben could've taken up an interest in Soccer in that time, or he could've done Baseball for a while, then switched when he grew bored of it or wanted to try something different, or he could've done both, but we're never shown him playing Baseball during the season it would be played in (late Spring to late Summer/late Fall for most high schools, I believe) Take your pick of the most plausible. 2. The last episode of Ben 10 is non-canon. Ben 10 had several non-canon episodes in season 3. The episode where Gwen got the Omnitrix is a simple 'what-if' scenario, for instance, that has no standing anywhere else. Then there's the episode that took place in the world of Ben 10,000 that we saw in that series. Hell, even ''Race Against Time'' showed Ben, Gwen, Max, and others from the series in school after the Summer, yet this wasn't canon either (each of these episodes later got acknowledged as alternate timelines in ''Ultimate Alien,'' however). So, the last episode of that series isn't canon.

* If Ben 10 alien force is suppose to be a sequel to Ben 10 why has so much changed? In the pilot episode of alien force we see Ben playing soccer, where in the previous series he always wanted to play baseball. Second thing in the last episode of Ben 10, vilgax returns Targeting Ben's house in order to lure him out, forcing Ben to reveal the secret of the omnitrix to not only his parents but to the school bullies at his local school in bellwood. Now fast forward to alien force, while the show references the original series quite a few times, many things have been altered, why does Ben's parents forget about the omnitrix along with Ben's childhood school bullies who literally witnessed him go hero in the final episode of the original series? Has the timeline been altered in alien force?

* If Ben 10 alien force is suppose to be a sequel to Ben 10 why has so much changed? In the pilot episode of alien force we see Ben playing soccer, where in the previous series he always wanted to play baseball. Second thing in the last episode of Ben 10, vilgax returns Targeting Ben's house in order to lure him out, forcing Ben to reveal the secret of the omnitrix to not only his parents but to the school bullies at his local school in bellwood. Now fast forward to alien force, while the show references the original series quite a few times, many things have been altered, why does Ben's parents forget about the omnitrix along with Ben's childhood school bullies who literally witnessed him go hero in the final episode?

* If Ben 10 alien force is suppose to be a sequel to Ben 10 why has so much changed? In the pilot episode of alien force we see Ben playing soccer where in the previous series he always wanted to play baseball. Second thing in the last episode of Ben 10 vilgax returns Targeting Ben's house in order to lure him out forcing Ben to reveal the secret of the omnitrix, to not only his parents but to the school bullies in bellwood as well. Now fast forward to alien force while the show references the original series alot many things have been altered why does Ben's parents forget about the omnitrix along with Ben's childhood school bullies?

** Well, there's a lot ''more'' of them than there are of Vilgax. Vilgax is apparantly one lone, rogue member of his species, an interstellar gangster whose resources are pretty much confined to one ship. The Highbreed have the numbers, infrastructure and planning to launch a coordinated war against the galaxy. Vilgax can be a hundred times stronger than any Highbreed, but if there's a million Highbreed, they still win. And were the Plumbers ever really scared of Vilgax? Max was scared for ''Ben'', because Vilgax has every reason to kill Ben, but whenever he's facing down Vilgax alone (such as the flashback scene with the missile), he comes off as pretty BadAss.

*** I see your point. Paradox is effectively a GOD. Not even a superman-esque PhysicalGod, I'm talking about a Doctor Manhattan on steroid ''with the ability to actually act'' i.e. a puppet that can see the strings, kick the puppeteer in the balls AND take over. In ANY other media, one would need a huge DeusExitMachina to make the stories interesting. In ''Alien Force''? TheyJustDidntCare.
** TheyJustDidntCare, indeed. In his first appearance, it's suggested that, immortality aside, Paradox's only ability is a kind of mental map, showing him the exact place and time to be in order to transport himself to another place and time.

* Does the design of the Highbreed mean anything significant, or is it a coincidence that they look completely identical to the unnamed creature from the ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'' finale "Things Change? (Granted, that creature had the appearance of a Highbreed but the powers of an Osmosian...)

* What the hell happened to Kevin's powers? He went from energy-manipulating {{Mix-and-Match Critter}} to having the ability to turn into anything he touches. And how did he escape the Null Void?

** Not sure about the last one, but taking on properties of things he touched was Kevin's power from the get go. His {{Mix-and-Match Critter}} form was a result of him trying to mimic the Omnitrix.

** [[IncrediblyLamePun Hot sex]]?

** [[IncrediblyLamePun Logically, they do it in a Fridge.]] [[EpilepticTrees My personal theory]] has always been that all sentient races have some special ability, and humans' special ability is [[BoldlyComing getting every other sentient race preggers]].
*** [[IncrediblyLamePun Just...no!]]

* If the Highbreed are "More powerful than Vilgax", why is he reappearing in season 3? I know I wanted Vilgax back, but now his appearance is brand new, with his mechanical implants completely removed, and his voice actor changed, ''why''? First, he suffered almost completely irreparable damage in the first series, and had to use the implants, in other words, how did he remove the implants? Second, the voice is completely different, it probably is SteveBlum, but still, why is his voice so different? I hate to say it, but, TheyChangedItNowItSucks.

*** In the movie, Azmuth was ignoring the very real threat of the complete destruction of the universe, which he himself caused with the self destruct button in the Omnitrix that he was totally uninterested in disarming. The presense of Waybig in the Alien Force finale is proof that "Secret of the Omnitrix" is in continuity.

*** Azmuth also lies a lot; or leaves out information on purpose. He has been shown to do that alot; he trusts Ben and likes him enough but sometimes he has to do force motivation and as we know the fact that there were two Omnitrix really made him angry. And while I know it doesn't fully belong here to the above theory the WordofGod was that the planet that the alien DNA was stored on was a giant computer and used the Codeon Stream to send the data for each DNA sample to his Omnitrix and later Ultramatrix. What the difference is with this and later the Omniverse is that due to the WHOLE universe getting a RealityWarp ResetButton by Alien X things changed and it re-created a whole new way for the Omnitrix to work

***** Be cabbly of destryoing the entire UNIVERSE

***** AND to top it all of, it opertes under some kind of weird "programmed energy" If this shit ISN'T running on some type of super universe energy, I don't want to know what it is running on

** It seems to me that Paradox acts under a sort of TemporalPrimeDirective that prevents him from doing too much except give cryptic advices and the occasional teleportation. It makes sense anyways, since for an eternal being such as himself, everything already happened, and whatever he does may change history. Also, it keeps the trend of DoctorWho, who does not seem to always remember he has a space and time traveling machine of ginormous capacity at hand.

** Never underestimate FetishFuel, Rule34, Xenophilia and Furries.

*** But what happened in the episode when that guy tried to turn him into his own private regenerating crystal mine? It looked like his whole body changed... [[NightmareFuel painfully and disturbingly so]].