History Headscratchers / BeastMachines

* beast wars megatron ceased to be in a sense once he merged his spark with that of his decepticon ancestor the original megatron during the events of the beast wars season 3 episode master blaster because the original megatron imprinted his mindset and attitude onto the personality and ego of the predacon megatron from beast wars, in a word beast machines megatrons change of personality being due to the original megatron having frankensteined him into a mental hybrid clone of the original megatrons but with the predacon megatrons ego still being firmly in control of the hybrid mind, this would account for vehicon megatrons disgust for his beast mode and all cybertronians with such biological based alt modes
in a word the vehicon megatron having his ego influenced by the personality and attitude of the original megatron ghost in the machine like

*** AFAIK, he went back to Cybertron after finding the rest of the survivors. This is told on one of the comics post-WesternAnimation/BeastWars.

** I seem to remember reading on TFWiki that Waspinator was the ''Darksyde's'' pilot. Perhaps he cobbled something together out of spare Transwarp cells and a stasis pod.
* On a similar note and all fan theories aside, just how did Megatron get so anti-organic? He showed no such resentment for most of his battles in WesternAnimation/BeastWars, and actually seemed quite comfortable with his beast modes in general. Heck, with the power of his Dragon mode, he could defeat Optimus Primal in EVERY confrontation they had afterwards, with elemental strength. Why would he grow to hate something that gave him such power and the ability to overcome most of his enemies?

** By the end of WesternAnimation/BeastWars, he's pretty vehemently anti-organic and pro-God!Megatron. Being lost on Cybertron for untold ages as the sole organic transformer might well have driven him over the edge.

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* If Rattrap had such a big problem with his lack of built-in weapons, why didn't he just pick up a gun? His old weapons, aside from his transmetal tail that he rarely used, weren't built-in, so it's not like things have changed that much. They're on a deserted Cybertron and continuously tearing heavily armed war drones to scrap, so it can't possibly be that hard for him to scavenge either a working weapon or the parts to make one. Was it just another example of the writers forgoing logic in the name of an overly simplistic theme?

*** AFAIK, he went back to Cybertron after finding the rest of the survivors. This is told on one of the comics post-BeastWars.

* On a similar note and all fan theories aside, just how did Megatron get so anti-organic? He showed no such resentment for most of his battles in BeastWars, and actually seemed quite comfortable with his beast modes in general. Heck, with the power of his Dragon mode, he could defeat Optimus Primal in EVERY confrontation they had afterwards, with elemental strength. Why would he grow to hate something that gave him such power and the ability to overcome most of his enemies?

** By the end of BeastWars, he's pretty vehemently anti-organic and pro-God!Megatron. Being lost on Cybertron for untold ages as the sole organic transformer might well have driven him over the edge.

* They transform by magic. That really bugs me.
** It's not magic. It's zen in the art of transformation.
** It's magic. They find enlightenment, and there's a bright glow and they morph (not shift and adjust) into their alt-modes. It's magic.
*** Given that it was granted by a proxy of a proxy of Primus, who their Sparks are supposed to be fragments of, it may be thought of as tapping into their own inherent divine power. Still not thematically apropos, but can be squeezed into given data if you use a handsaw and some crazy glue on the canon.
** They're part organic now. Organic things don't change shape by twisting and separating pieces of themselves, they morph fluidly.
* So the Beast Wars were fought in order to bring organic beast modes back to Cybertron. There are several problems with this. Problem 1: The beast wars would have never happened if Megatron had failed in stealing the golden disk. Problem 2: Most of the transformers that survived came back transmetal, so any organic material they had was compromised. Problem 3: There was no guarantee that the Maximals would ''win'' the beast wars, with Megatron almost '''rewriting history''' which would have created a Cybertron where technorganic life would never see the light of day. You would think '''someone''' would have checked continuity before creating a [[{{Wallbanger}} wallbanging]] Retcon.
** Primus works in mysterious ways.
** Actually, it's not too far-fetched. If you look at their Transmetal forms, the beast modes are metallic, while robot modes are more organic in appearance (an inversion of what the initial forms looked like). Then came Transmetal 2, where beast and 'bot modes looked staggeringly similar. The fusion of the organic with the technological was gradually shown (this probably wasn't the original intent during BeastWars, but it fits never the less). Remember, it was about bringing the organic back to MELD with the technological. As for the other issues...well, Megatron DID steal the Golden Disk and the Maximals DID win the Beast Wars. Moot points. If you wanted to take if further, you could argue that perhaps whatever forces drove the Maximals to prehistoric Earth also drove Megatron to steal the Disk as a reason to head to there, orchestrating a grand design. Either that, or said "Forces" knew Megs II would steal the artifact anyway and chose the Axalon and her crew to pursue him.
* Despite it's faults, I can appreciate what Beast Machines was going for. However, it [[{{Scrubs}} REA-HE-HE-HE-HE-LLY]] bugs me what they did with Rhinox. It's one thing to turn him evil...again...but to do so of his own free will? [[WallBanger The guy that liked to smell flowers?!]] And after all his willingly-committed crimes, he dies and joins with the Matrix? See, I'd always gotten the impression that the Matrix was "Heaven" and The Pit was "Hell", and after death bots would go to one according to how they lived their lives. But apparently you can betray your comrades of many years to conquer a planet and destroy anyone that gets in your way and become one with a grand, paranormal power. At the very least, they should've said it was Megatron fooling with his mind that ACTUALLY made him evil, exempting him of harsh punishments in the afterlife (it worked for Heracles). "Unexpected twist" or not, it was probably the WORST CharacterDerailment of just about any show I can think of.
** According to Bob Skir, his original intent was that Rhinox had "seen all sides of the argument, and was leaning more towards Megatron's ideas. After a quiet chat, he and Optimus would've parted company." However, Richard Newman delivered those lines snarling and shouting, making it sound like he was not right in the head. Admittedly, I'm not sure ''why'' Rhinox would've leaned towards Megatron's ideas. Maybe it was supposed to be a NotSoDifferent thing. I dunno.