History Headscratchers / AvengersAssemble

%%[[folder:Squadron Supreme story--Rushed? Or poorly established?]]
%%* At the end of the Squadron Supreme's arc, the Squadron starts to fall apart with infighting, and it's discovered that their desire for power became their flaw. Doesn't that feel like a last-minute cop out by the writers? The Squadron showed no signs of such a vulnerability, because most of Season 2, they did act like true friends and in the second half of Season 2, they showed resolve of a true zealot--Hyperion even called Tony out for trying to get him to sell out the other Squadron members, showing they'd die for one another and their cause. They've endured separation after the destruction of a planet and go back to following their leader. It's just not believable and seemed inconsistent that they would fall apart when they have shown otherwise. Plus it strips away what people liked about the Squadron in the first place.

%%* At the end of the Squadron Supreme's arc, the Squadron starts to fall apart with infighting, and it's discovered that their desire for power became their flaw. Doesn't that feel like a last-minute cop out by the writers? The Squadron showed no signs of such a vulnerability, because most of Season 2, they did act like true friends and in the second half of Season 2, they showed resolve of a true zealot--Hyperion even called Tony out for trying to get him to sell out the other Squadron members, showing they'd die for one another and their cause. They've endured separation after the destruction of a planet and go back to following their leader. It's just not believable and seemed inconsistent that they would fall apart when hey have shown otherwise. Plus it strips away what people liked about the Squadron in the first place, replacing them with bland, cookie-cutter Dick Dasterdlys.

%%* At the end of the Squadron Supreme's arc, the Squadron starts to fall apart with infighting, and it's discovered that their desire for power became their flaw. Doesn't that feel like a last-minute cop out by the writers? The Squadron showed no signs of such a vulnerability, because most of Season 2, they did act like true friends and in the second half of Season 2, they showed resolve of a true zealot--Hyperion even called Tony out for trying to get him to sell out the other Squadron members, showing they'd die for one another and their cause. They've endured separation after the destruction of a planet and go back to following their leader. It's just not believable that fall apart that easily when they have shown otherwise. Plus it ruins what made the Squadron great, effective villains in the first place.

%%* At the end of the Squadron Supreme's arc, the Squadron starts to fall apart with infighting, and it's discovered that their desire for power became their flaw. Doesn't that feel like a last-minute cop out by the writers? The Squadron showed no signs of such a vulnerability, because most of Season 2, they did act like true friends and in the second half of Season 2, they showed resolve of a true zealot--Hyperion even called Tony out for trying to get him to sell out the other Squadron members, showing they'd die for one another and their cause. They've endured separation after the destruction of a planet and go back to following their leader. It's just not believable that fall apart that easily when they have shown otherwise.

%%* At the end of the Squadron Supreme's arc, the Squadron starts to fall apart with infighting, and it's discovered that their desire for power became their flaw. Doesn't that feel like a last-minute cop out? The Squadron showed no signs of such a vulnerability, because most of Season 2, they did act like true friends and in the second half of Season 2, they showed resolve of a true zealot--Hyperion even called Tony out for trying to get him to sell out the other Squadron members, showing they'd die for one another and their cause. They've endured separation after the destruction of a planet and go back to following their leader. It's just not believable more

%%* At the end of the Squadron Supreme's arc, the Squadron starts to fall apart with infighting, and it's discovered that their desire for power became their flaw. Doesn't that feel like a last-minute cop out? The Squadron showed no signs of such a vulnerability, because most of Season 2, they did act like true friends and in the second half of Season 2, they showed resolve of a true zealot--Hyperion even called Tony out for trying to get him to sell out the other Squadron members, showing they'd die for one another and their cause. They've endured separation after the destruction of a planet and go back to following their leader.

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** Because even though the group is stated to be a match for The Avengers, it is based on NormanOsborn's Cabal from the Dark Reign era of Marvel. Each member is a big bad in their own right, with their own armies of henchmen to back them up. I rather hope that the goals of The Cabal match that of their comic book counterpart more than they match the Masters of evil.

** Here's how I see it: ''Avengers Assemble'' is directly connected to ''Ultimate Spider-Man'', and both have a BroadStrokes version of the events depicted on ''The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes'', combined with some elements of the MarvelCinematicUniverse (i.e., Phil Coulson, [[{{Film/TheAvengers}} the Chitauri invasion]], [[{{Film/Thor}} Heimdall being black]], etc.) in their backstory.

%%[[folder: Why stop at Ant-Man?]]
%%* In ''Small Time Heroes'' one of the main problems was that the Avengers are barely half a team. Sure, Iron Man recruited Ant-Man and gave the Avengers almost everything they need, but why stop at Ant-Man? Iron Man could have tried to reach out to other heroes to recruit for the Avengers. Sure, Spider-Man won't join because of the conflict between Iron Man and Cap, and he obviously can't recruit any [[WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan superheroes from SHIELD]], because SHIELD doesn't trust the Avengers anymore. I mean, Tony could have at least ''tried'' to recruit others like Wolverine or Scarlet Witch (considering how this show takes cues from the MCU), and/or Doctor Strange. Or, Tony could've at least tried to make some sort of temporary arrangement with the Fantastic Four, wherein they form an alliance to deal with Ultron. In any case, there are plenty of heroes out there, and it would've helped the Avengers avoid the problems they're facing with small numbers, such as the problem they had with Absorbing Man and Titania. The biggest problem the Avengers have so far is the greater damage they're creating as a smaller team, so with more recruits besides Ant-Man, they could even the odds and they could

* Why chose ''RedSkull'', of all people, to be the BigBad and leader of the Cabal? I mean, come on! This is the ''one'' villain everybody hates, even amongst other villains! Even more so in this version, seeing how Dracula apparently once chose to team up with Captain America over him. Shouldn't his invitations to join the Cabal be ignored by practically everybody?

*** Well, not including SuperHeroSquad (which was a parody), Banner still was present. He shew up in ''IronManArmoredAdventures'', and, as mentionned sooner, ''Earth's Mightiest Heroes'' actually bothered explaining why he was DemotedToExtra, while still showing him as a SpiritAdviser whenever an episode would focus on Hulk's point of view. I'll wait to see more, but so far this show seems to flat down ignore Banner.

** Essentially, it's a 22 minute show with an ensemble cast. The Hulk's interaction with everyone is more interesting for the story than Banner's. If there's a specific reason to show Banner (ala Planet Doom), they will, much like EVH did. And besides, tying with that, the kids watching want to see Hulk, not some dude.

** While I haven't gotten to those episodes yet, in the comics the Super-Adaptoid is a being made of unstable molecules who duplicates people down to the molecular level. So if he duplicates an organic being, than the Super-Adaptoid is an organic being with nerves and everything else.

** Essentially, it's a 22 minute show with an ensemble cast. The Hulk's interaction with everyone is more interesting for the story than Banner's. If there's a specific reason to show Banner (ala Planet Doom), they will, much like EVH did. And besides, tying with that, the kids watching want to see Hulk, not some dude.

* Why do M.O.D.O.K. and Hammer grunt whenever the Adaptoid is hit? It's a machine. It has no nerves. Maybe you can make a case for M.O.D.O.K. mind-linking with it or something, but Hammer? What is he doing?

*** ''Bring on the Bad Guys'' Shows both Modok and the Super-Adaptoid in the same place at the same time so that's out. He may still be controlling it telepathically instead of somehow splitting his consciousness however.

** I'm getting the feeling that Modok is in stasis somewhere operating the Super-Adaptoid via technopathic remote control.

* Is Modok currently one being with two separate bodies or are there two separate Modok's running around right now. Also why hasn't Modok started churning out Super-Adaptoids like it's the thing to do? They were made on Earth by someone less inteligent than him but more importantly he's got a working model to build off of and an army of Super Adaptoids would spank the Avengers so hard and so fast that it wouldn't be funny.

** Same reason the Iron Patriot armor was in IronMan3. There are some things from modern comics that cartoons just can't escape.

* In "Doomstroyer" Thor just ups and leaves, ''in the middle of a fight'', with ''no explanation.'' I suppose it's to keep Loki's participation in the episode a secret, but seriously? It makes him look like a coward, when we already know he's beaten the Destroyer before. He couldn't take ten seconds to say "We need help, I'll be right back with someone who can"?