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* The Molecule Man episode. One minute we see a flashback where everyone looks like their [[AvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes A:EMH]] selves, the next Nick Fury shows up [[WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan in a "Tri-Carrier" and a S.H.I.E.L.D. training program for young heroes in mentioned]]. Are they still deciding which canon this is, or [[TrollingCreator are they just deliberately messing with us now]]?

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* The Molecule Man episode. One minute we see a flashback where everyone looks like their [[AvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes A:EMH]] selves, the next Nick Fury shows up [[WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan in a "Tri-Carrier" and a S.H.I.E.L.D. training program for young heroes in mentioned]]. Are they still deciding which canon this is, or [[TrollingCreator are they just deliberately messing with us now]]?now]]?
** My opinion is that they are trying to please everybody by trying to make those three show all part of the same universe even though they don't match together. A ridiculous extreme case of PanderingToTheFanbase. Then again, I might be wrong.
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*** Well, not including SuperHeroSquad (which was a parody), Banner still was present. He shew up in ''IronManArmoredAdventures'', and, as mentionned sooner, ''Earth's Mightiest Heroes'' actually bothered explaining why he was DemotedToExtra, while still showing him as a SpiritAdviser whenever an episode would focus on Hulk's point of view. I'll wait to see more, but so far this show seems to flat down ignore Banner.

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*** Yeah, but she's not being an undercover spy. She's an Avenger.

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*** Yeah, but she's not being an undercover spy. spy right now. She's an Avenger.Avenger, on the front lines. Sure, it'll probably come in handy, but why in the company of her teammates?


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** You act like Marvel cartoons haven't been doing this since the 2000's.
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** The bottom of the river floor. Course, the moment when Hulk caught Tony wasn't shown. He probably jumped from somewhere solid like a boat, the bridge's pillar, or something. Caught Tony. Landed somewhere near the bridge then jumped straight up.

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** The bottom of the river floor. Course, the moment when Hulk caught Tony wasn't shown. He probably jumped from somewhere solid like a boat, the bridge's pillar, or something. Caught Tony. Landed somewhere near the bridge then jumped straight up.up.
* The Molecule Man episode. One minute we see a flashback where everyone looks like their [[AvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes A:EMH]] selves, the next Nick Fury shows up [[WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan in a "Tri-Carrier" and a S.H.I.E.L.D. training program for young heroes in mentioned]]. Are they still deciding which canon this is, or [[TrollingCreator are they just deliberately messing with us now]]?
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** Same reason the Iron Patriot armor was in IronMan3. There are some things from modern comics that cartoons just can't escape.
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*** Yeah, but she's not being an undercover spy. She's an Avenger.
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**** I guess that's a good enough justification...
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* Also in Hyperion, where was Hulk jumping from when he saved Tony from getting knocked off the bridge? He's clearly jumping straight up. But they're over water...

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* Also in Hyperion, where was Hulk jumping from when he saved Tony from getting knocked off the bridge? He's clearly jumping straight up. But they're over water...water...
** The bottom of the river floor. Course, the moment when Hulk caught Tony wasn't shown. He probably jumped from somewhere solid like a boat, the bridge's pillar, or something. Caught Tony. Landed somewhere near the bridge then jumped straight up.

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* Why "The Cabal" to name te villain team? It's a team to oposse the Avengers, Why not Masters of Evil? (regardless of membership)

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* Why "The Cabal" to name te the villain team? It's a team to oposse pose the Avengers, Why not Masters of Evil? (regardless of membership)



* Why chose ''RedSkull'', of all people, to be the BigBad and leader of the Cabale? I mean, come on! This is the ''one'' villain everybody hates, even amongst other villains! Even more so in this version, seeing how Dracula apparently once chose to team up with Captain America over him. Shouldn't his invitations to join the Cabale be ignored by practically everybody?

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* Why chose ''RedSkull'', of all people, to be the BigBad and leader of the Cabale? Cabal? I mean, come on! This is the ''one'' villain everybody hates, even amongst other villains! Even more so in this version, seeing how Dracula apparently once chose to team up with Captain America over him. Shouldn't his invitations to join the Cabale Cabal be ignored by practically everybody?



**** It hasn't been clearly confirmed yet if this show takes place in the same universe than USM (I don't take their WordOfGod in account since they also said it was a continuity of EMH, and it turns out to be a lie). And I know Doom refused, but precisely, I think the whole show would have made more sense if HE had been the one with the idea to form the Cabale.
***** Maybe the writers wanted an EvilCounterpart in a villain team to Captain America in the Avengers. For Osborn, the connection to Ultimate Spider-man though is slightly more clearer than EMH due to some designs and Jonah's news show. For Doom, he's kinda a power hungry dictator of a European country with cushy diplomatic immunity, I think there are some villains who would object to that. Either way, it's not like all the villains will all join Red Skull's Cabal. They'll probably make their own separate teams like in EMH. Those that do will probably backstab Red Skull if the Avengers are defeated.

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**** *** It hasn't been clearly confirmed yet if this show takes place in the same universe than USM (I don't take their WordOfGod in account since they also said it was a continuity of EMH, and it turns out to be a lie). And I know Doom refused, but precisely, I think the whole show would have made more sense if HE had been the one with the idea to form the Cabale.
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Maybe the writers wanted an EvilCounterpart in a villain team to Captain America in the Avengers. For Osborn, the connection to Ultimate Spider-man though is slightly more clearer than EMH due to some designs and Jonah's news show. For Doom, he's kinda a power hungry dictator of a European country with cushy diplomatic immunity, I think there are some villains who would object to that. Either way, it's not like all the villains will all join Red Skull's Cabal. They'll probably make their own separate teams like in EMH. Those that do will probably backstab Red Skull if the Avengers are defeated.



*** Hulk is supposed to turn back into Bruce Banner regularly, including when he is not angry. In ''Earth's Mightiest Heroes'', they actually explained why he was Hulk all the time. Here ? They don't even ''mention'' Banner. It's like he has always been Hulk. Kinda sad considering this series tries to emulate the success of the Avengers movies, where a big reason for Hulk's popularity ''was'' Banner's personnality and his bromance with Stark.
**** There were times in the comics wherein Hulk was Hulk 24/7 and didn't change into Banner due to heightened intelligence or something. PlanetHulk is an example of such a time. There was also that time wherein Hulk was gray, went by Mr. Fixit or something, and acted like a bouncer complete with gangster suit. The show's probably taking nods from those times wherein Hulk was just Hulk. Besides it's not like it's a necessary requirement that the show has to constantly remind people that Hulk is Banner. It's like those times wherein the show doesn't remind people that Falcon and Black Widow were/are SHIELD agents. The show will probably remind people though that the Hulk is Banner anyway when he gets an episode centered on him.

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*** Hulk is supposed to turn back into Bruce Banner regularly, including when he is not angry. In ''Earth's Mightiest Heroes'', they actually explained why he was Hulk all the time. Here ? They don't even ''mention'' Banner. It's like he has always been Hulk. Kinda sad considering this series tries to emulate the success of the Avengers movies, where a big reason for Hulk's popularity ''was'' Banner's personnality personality and his bromance with Stark.
**** *** There were times in the comics wherein Hulk was Hulk 24/7 and didn't change into Banner due to heightened intelligence or something. PlanetHulk is an example of such a time. There was also that time wherein Hulk was gray, went by Mr. Fixit or something, and acted like a bouncer complete with gangster suit. The show's probably taking nods from those times wherein Hulk was just Hulk. Besides it's not like it's a necessary requirement that the show has to constantly remind people that Hulk is Banner. It's like those times wherein the show doesn't remind people that Falcon and Black Widow were/are SHIELD agents. The show will probably remind people though that the Hulk is Banner anyway when he gets an episode centered on him.him.
* In Hyperion, how did they fail to notice the meteors before they were already entering Earth's atmosphere?
* Also in Hyperion, where was Hulk jumping from when he saved Tony from getting knocked off the bridge? He's clearly jumping straight up. But they're over water...
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**** There were times in the comics wherein Hulk was Hulk 24/7 and didn't change into Banner due to heightened intelligence or something. PlanetHulk is an example of such a time. There was also that time wherein Hulk was gray, went by Mr. Fixit or something, and acted like a bouncer complete with gangster suit. The show's probably taking nods from those times wherein Hulk was just Hulk. Besides it's not like it's a necessary requirement that the show has to remind people that Hulk is Banner. It's like those times wherein the show doesn't remind people that Falcon and Black Widow were/are SHIELD agents. The show will probably remind people though that the Hulk is Banner anyway when he gets an episode centered on him.

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**** There were times in the comics wherein Hulk was Hulk 24/7 and didn't change into Banner due to heightened intelligence or something. PlanetHulk is an example of such a time. There was also that time wherein Hulk was gray, went by Mr. Fixit or something, and acted like a bouncer complete with gangster suit. The show's probably taking nods from those times wherein Hulk was just Hulk. Besides it's not like it's a necessary requirement that the show has to constantly remind people that Hulk is Banner. It's like those times wherein the show doesn't remind people that Falcon and Black Widow were/are SHIELD agents. The show will probably remind people though that the Hulk is Banner anyway when he gets an episode centered on him.
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***** Maybe the writers wanted an EvilCounterpart in a villain team to Captain America in the Avengers. For Osborn, the connection to Ultimate Spider-man though is slightly more clearer than EMH due to some designs and Jonah's news show. For Doom, he's kinda a power hungry dictator of a European country with cushy diplomatic immunity, I think there are some villains who would object to that. Either way, it's not like all the villains will all join Red Skull's Cabal. They'll probably make their own separate teams like in EMH. Those that do will probably backstab Red Skull if the Avengers are defeated.
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*** Hulk is supposed to turn back into Bruce Banner regularly, including when he is not angry. In ''Earth's Mightiest Heroes'', they actually explained why he was Hulk all the time. Here ? They don't even ''mention'' Banner. It's like he has always been Hulk. Kinda sad considering this series tries to emulate the success of the Avengers movies, where a big reason for Hulk's popularity ''was'' Banner's personnality and his bromance with Stark.

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*** Hulk is supposed to turn back into Bruce Banner regularly, including when he is not angry. In ''Earth's Mightiest Heroes'', they actually explained why he was Hulk all the time. Here ? They don't even ''mention'' Banner. It's like he has always been Hulk. Kinda sad considering this series tries to emulate the success of the Avengers movies, where a big reason for Hulk's popularity ''was'' Banner's personnality and his bromance with Stark.Stark.
**** There were times in the comics wherein Hulk was Hulk 24/7 and didn't change into Banner due to heightened intelligence or something. PlanetHulk is an example of such a time. There was also that time wherein Hulk was gray, went by Mr. Fixit or something, and acted like a bouncer complete with gangster suit. The show's probably taking nods from those times wherein Hulk was just Hulk. Besides it's not like it's a necessary requirement that the show has to remind people that Hulk is Banner. It's like those times wherein the show doesn't remind people that Falcon and Black Widow were/are SHIELD agents. The show will probably remind people though that the Hulk is Banner anyway when he gets an episode centered on him.
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** Because even though the group is stated to be a match for The Avengers, it is based on Norman Orbison's Cabal from the Dark Reign era of Marvel. Each member is a big bad in their own right, with their own armies of henchmen to back them up. I rather hope that the goals of The Cabal match that of their comic book counterpart more than they match the Masters of evil.

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** Because even though the group is stated to be a match for The Avengers, it is based on Norman Orbison's NormanOsborn's Cabal from the Dark Reign era of Marvel. Each member is a big bad in their own right, with their own armies of henchmen to back them up. I rather hope that the goals of The Cabal match that of their comic book counterpart more than they match the Masters of evil.
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*** Going by USM, Osborn is still undergoing post-goblin treatment and Loki's still being punished by Odin in Asgard. Within the series itself, Doctor Doom flat out refused to join the cabal. Also according to interviews Thanos will appear later on in the series.

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*** Going by USM, Osborn is still undergoing post-goblin treatment and Loki's still being punished by Odin in Asgard. Within the series itself, Doctor Doom flat out refused to join the cabal. Also according to interviews Thanos will appear later on in the series.
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**** It hasn't been clearly confirmed yet if this show takes place in the same universe than USM (I don't take their WordOfGod in account since they also said it was a continuity of EMH, and it turns out to be a lie). And I know Doom refused, but precisely, I think the whole show would have made more sense if HE had been the one with the idea to form the Cabale.
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*** Going by USM, Osborn is still undergoing post-goblin treatment and Loki's still being punished by Odin in Asgard. Within the series itself, Doctor Doom flat out refused to join the cabal. Also according to interviews Thanos will appear later on in the series.
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*** Hulk is supposed to turn back into Bruce Banner regularly, including when he is not angry. In Earth's Mightiest Heroes, they actually explained why he was Hulk all the time. Here ? They don't even ''mention'' Banner. It's like he has always been Hulk. Kinda sad considering this series tries to emulate the success of the Avengers movies, where a big reason for Hulk's popularity ''was'' Banner's personnality and his bromance with Stark.

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*** Hulk is supposed to turn back into Bruce Banner regularly, including when he is not angry. In Earth's ''Earth's Mightiest Heroes, Heroes'', they actually explained why he was Hulk all the time. Here ? They don't even ''mention'' Banner. It's like he has always been Hulk. Kinda sad considering this series tries to emulate the success of the Avengers movies, where a big reason for Hulk's popularity ''was'' Banner's personnality and his bromance with Stark.
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*** Hulk is supposed to turn back into Bruce Banner regularly, including when he is not angry. In Earth's Mightiest Heroes, they actually explained why he was Hulk all the time. Here ? They don't even ''mention'' Banner. It's like he has always been Hulk. Kinda sad considering this series tries to emulate the success of the Avengers movies, where the main reason of Hulk's popularity ''was'' Banner's personnality and his bromance with Stark.

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*** Hulk is supposed to turn back into Bruce Banner regularly, including when he is not angry. In Earth's Mightiest Heroes, they actually explained why he was Hulk all the time. Here ? They don't even ''mention'' Banner. It's like he has always been Hulk. Kinda sad considering this series tries to emulate the success of the Avengers movies, where the main a big reason of for Hulk's popularity ''was'' Banner's personnality and his bromance with Stark.
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*** Hulk is supposed to turn back into Bruce Banner regularly, including when he is not angry. In Earth's Mightiest Heroes, they actually explained why he was Hulk all the time. Here ? They don't even ''mention'' Banner. It's like he has always been Hulk. Kinda sad considering this series tries to emulate the success of the Avengers movies, where the main reason of Hulk's popularity ''was'' Banner.

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*** Hulk is supposed to turn back into Bruce Banner regularly, including when he is not angry. In Earth's Mightiest Heroes, they actually explained why he was Hulk all the time. Here ? They don't even ''mention'' Banner. It's like he has always been Hulk. Kinda sad considering this series tries to emulate the success of the Avengers movies, where the main reason of Hulk's popularity ''was'' Banner.Banner's personnality and his bromance with Stark.
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*** What would prevent them from forming the team without him? All I am saying is, he seems like the worst choice scenaristically to be a villain leader. Doom, Osborn, Loki, Zemo, even Thanos would have seem like a more logical choice to me.



** ...He's the Hulk. What do you mean "where"?

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** ...He's the Hulk. What do you mean "where"?"where"?
*** Hulk is supposed to turn back into Bruce Banner regularly, including when he is not angry. In Earth's Mightiest Heroes, they actually explained why he was Hulk all the time. Here ? They don't even ''mention'' Banner. It's like he has always been Hulk. Kinda sad considering this series tries to emulate the success of the Avengers movies, where the main reason of Hulk's popularity ''was'' Banner.
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* Where the hell is Bruce Banner? They haven't even mentioned him yet.

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* Where the hell is Bruce Banner? They haven't even mentioned him yet.yet.
** ...He's the Hulk. What do you mean "where"?
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** Not when he's offering a team up which could take down the Avengers.

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** Not when he's offering a team up which could take down the Avengers.Avengers.
*Where the hell is Bruce Banner? They haven't even mentioned him yet.
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* Why chose ''RedSkull'', of all people, to be the BigBad and leader of the Cabale? I mean, come on! This is the ''one'' villain everybody hates, even amongst other villains! Even more so in this version, seeing how Dracula apparently once chose to team up with Captain America over him. Shouldn't his invitations to join the Cabale be ignored by practically everybody?

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* Why chose ''RedSkull'', of all people, to be the BigBad and leader of the Cabale? I mean, come on! This is the ''one'' villain everybody hates, even amongst other villains! Even more so in this version, seeing how Dracula apparently once chose to team up with Captain America over him. Shouldn't his invitations to join the Cabale be ignored by practically everybody?everybody?
** Not when he's offering a team up which could take down the Avengers.
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* Why chose ''RedSkull'', of all people, to be the BigBad and leader of the Cabale? I mean, come on! This is the ''one'' villain everybody hates, even amongst other villains! Even more so in this version, seeing how Dracula apparently once chose to team up with Captain America over him. Shouldn't his offer to join the Cabale be ignored by practically everybody?

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* Why chose ''RedSkull'', of all people, to be the BigBad and leader of the Cabale? I mean, come on! This is the ''one'' villain everybody hates, even amongst other villains! Even more so in this version, seeing how Dracula apparently once chose to team up with Captain America over him. Shouldn't his offer invitations to join the Cabale be ignored by practically everybody?
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** Because she's a spy who goes undercover & thus needs to be able to affect a variety of accents.

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** Because she's a spy who goes undercover & thus needs to be able to affect a variety of accents.accents.
* Why chose ''RedSkull'', of all people, to be the BigBad and leader of the Cabale? I mean, come on! This is the ''one'' villain everybody hates, even amongst other villains! Even more so in this version, seeing how Dracula apparently once chose to team up with Captain America over him. Shouldn't his offer to join the Cabale be ignored by practically everybody?
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* Oh, hell, I'm just gonna say it. Does anyone else miss the days back when Black Widow used to actually have a Russian accent? (Seriously, why did they get rid of that?)

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* Oh, hell, I'm just gonna say it. Does anyone else miss the days back when Black Widow used to actually have a Russian accent? (Seriously, why did they get rid of that?)that?)
** Because she's a spy who goes undercover & thus needs to be able to affect a variety of accents.
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** While it's not directly stated the implication seems to be that Tony specifically and the group as a whole agreed that the Avengers was simply too much power for any one person/group to wield. In addition it would encourage. . .well exactly what Red Skull does at the end of the two part opener and team up all the worlds villains into a larger threat. It's a fairly common meme in comics that heroes very quickly start creating their own threats.

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** While it's not directly stated the implication seems to be that Tony specifically and the group as a whole agreed that the Avengers was simply too much power for any one person/group to wield. In addition it would encourage. . .well exactly what Red Skull does at the end of the two part opener and team up all the worlds villains into a larger threat. It's a fairly common meme in comics that heroes very quickly start creating their own threats.threats.
* Oh, hell, I'm just gonna say it. Does anyone else miss the days back when Black Widow used to actually have a Russian accent? (Seriously, why did they get rid of that?)
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* So, why exactly did the Avengers disassemble? Iron Man makes an implication that they "broke up the band" a while ago in the opening episode. Do we have a specific reason as to why?

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* So, why exactly did the Avengers disassemble? Iron Man makes an implication that they "broke up the band" a while ago in the opening episode. Do we have a specific reason as to why?why?
** While it's not directly stated the implication seems to be that Tony specifically and the group as a whole agreed that the Avengers was simply too much power for any one person/group to wield. In addition it would encourage. . .well exactly what Red Skull does at the end of the two part opener and team up all the worlds villains into a larger threat. It's a fairly common meme in comics that heroes very quickly start creating their own threats.
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** Because even though the group is stated to be a match for The Avengers, it is based on Norman Orbison's Cabal from the Dark Reign era of Marvel. Each member is a big bad in their own right, with their own armies of henchmen to back them up. I rather hope that the goals of The Cabal match that of their comic book counterpart more than they match the Masters of evil.

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** Because even though the group is stated to be a match for The Avengers, it is based on Norman Orbison's Cabal from the Dark Reign era of Marvel. Each member is a big bad in their own right, with their own armies of henchmen to back them up. I rather hope that the goals of The Cabal match that of their comic book counterpart more than they match the Masters of evil.evil.
* So, why exactly did the Avengers disassemble? Iron Man makes an implication that they "broke up the band" a while ago in the opening episode. Do we have a specific reason as to why?
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* Why "The Cabal" to name te villain team? It's a team to oposse the Avengers, Why not Masters of Evil? (regardless of membership)

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* Why "The Cabal" to name te villain team? It's a team to oposse the Avengers, Why not Masters of Evil? (regardless of membership)membership)
** Because even though the group is stated to be a match for The Avengers, it is based on Norman Orbison's Cabal from the Dark Reign era of Marvel. Each member is a big bad in their own right, with their own armies of henchmen to back them up. I rather hope that the goals of The Cabal match that of their comic book counterpart more than they match the Masters of evil.
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