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** Indeed, given that Bumi is pretty much the strongest earthbender we see in the entire show (not counting Kyoshi), it's possible the king in Omashu is chosen based in an earthbending contest or something.
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** Indeed, given that Bumi is pretty much the strongest earthbender we see in the entire show (not counting Kyoshi), it's possible the king in Omashu is chosen based in an earthbending contest or something.
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** Indeed, given that Bumi is pretty much the strongest earthbender we see in the entire show (not counting Kyoshi), it's possible the king in Omashu is chosen based in an earthbending contest or something.
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** It's always been a "take my word for it" sort of thing. She says something, the others just roll with it.
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* Can Ty Lee really see auras or is it just assumptions she makes based on personalities and moods?
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* Can Ty Lee really see auras or is it just assumptions she makes based on personalities and moods?
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** Who said he was born a prince? Umashu might pick its kings a different way.
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* In The King of Omashu, Aang is tasked will figuring out the titular king's name, which he soon realizes his old friend Bumi. But why did he never mention Bumi being a prince growing up to Katara and Sokka?
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* In The King of Omashu, Aang is tasked will with figuring out the titular king's name, which he soon realizes his old friend Bumi. But why did he never mention Bumi being a prince growing up to Katara and Sokka?
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* In The King of Omashu, Aang is tasked will figuring out the titular king's name, which he soon realizes his old friend Bumi. But why did he never mention Bumi being a prince growing up to Katara and Sokka?
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* In The King of Omashu, Aang is tasked will figuring out the titular king's name, which he soon realizes his old friend Bumi. But why did he never mention Bumi being a prince growing up to Katara and Sokka?
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** Azula was going to hand Zuko everything he thinks he ever wanted on a silver platter: A chance to return home and be loved by his family. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." Sure, we know that Azula was going to have a card up her sleeve about that; but to Zuko, a man desperate to return home, that was a risk he was going to take.
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** I think that Iroh actually believed in Sozin’s original justification for the war at first; to him it was a matter of fulfilling his grandfathers desire to spread the resources and knowledge of the Fire Nation to others. Meeting the dragons would likely have caused him to question this mandate, but it was Lu Ten’s death that truly set off his HeelRealization.
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** Please don't get so worked up over this. I never said "better", I said "more merciful". One course of action would have Ozai march right up to a fully-conscious and aware Zuko and kill him in a way that Zuko would almost assuredly see coming and be terrified of. Whereas Zuko being killed in his sleep spares him the trauma of knowing his own father wanted him dead. The actual cause of death was not significant; it's the victim's awareness of their impending death that I was referring to.
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** Not, it's exactly like that. Ozai's still going to murder Zuko. How the hell does the method make it any better?
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** According to the character page, WordOfGod is that the reason he kept trying to kill Aang after Zuko told him to stop is because he figured Ozai would be willing to pay him more if he went through with it.
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** It's really not like that, because Ozai's method of doing it involved not telling Zuko beforehand, so he wouldn't have known it was coming.
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** Pride. You've got a reputation for being an amazing hitman and you've gotten punked by kids on multiple occasions. After a while, it gets personal.
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** Not really. That's like saying "Hey sport, we're gonna kill you by lethal injection instead of the electric chair!" The needle's gonna hurt a hell of a lot less, sure, but that's still death.
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** It's likely that Bumi didn't come to rule Omashu through blood, based on 2 pieces of circumstantial evidence. 1) In flashbacks, Bumi is never addressed as a royal (though this could be for the viewer's surprise later) nor does he wear elegant clothes. Even a kid as eccentric as Bumi would probably be forced to wear royal clothes 24/7. 2) Though the audience knows very little of what happened to Bumi in the 100 years that passed, it is very apparent that there is no royal family nor any successors to the throne. Even a man like Bumi, as the king, would be still be interested in continuing the royal bloodline. This may suggest that there ''isn't one''. [[{{YMMV}} Or that could be entirely wrong.]]
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** It's likely that Bumi didn't come to rule Omashu through blood, based on 2 pieces of circumstantial evidence. 1) In flashbacks, Bumi is never addressed as a royal (though this could be for the viewer's surprise later) nor does he wear elegant clothes. Even a kid as eccentric as Bumi would probably be forced to wear royal clothes 24/7. 2) Though the audience knows very little of what happened to Bumi in the 100 years that passed, it is very apparent that there is no royal family nor any successors to the throne. Even a man like Bumi, as the king, would be still be interested in continuing the royal bloodline. This may suggest that there ''isn't one''. [[{{YMMV}} Or that could be entirely wrong.]]
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** It's likely that Bumi didn't come to rule Omashu through blood, based on 2 pieces of circumstantial evidence. 1) In flashbacks, Bumi is never addressed as a royal (though this could be for the viewer's surprise later) nor does he wear elegant clothes. Even a kid as eccentric as Bumi would probably be forced to wear royal clothes 24/7. 2) Though the audience knows very little of what happened to Bumi in the 100 years that passed, it is very apparent that there is no royal family nor any successors to the throne. Even a man like Bumi, as the king, would be still be interested in continuing the royal bloodline. This may suggest that there ''isn't one''. [[Main/YMMV Or that could be entirely wrong]]
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** It's likely that Bumi didn't come to rule Omashu through blood, based on 2 pieces of circumstantial evidence. 1) In flashbacks, Bumi is never addressed as a royal (though this could be for the viewer's surprise later) nor does he wear elegant clothes. Even a kid as eccentric as Bumi would probably be forced to wear royal clothes 24/7. 2) Though the audience knows very little of what happened to Bumi in the 100 years that passed, it is very apparent that there is no royal family nor any successors to the throne. Even a man like Bumi, as the king, would be still be interested in continuing the royal bloodline. This may suggest that there ''isn't one''. [[Main/YMMV [[{{YMMV}} Or that could be entirely wrong]]wrong.]]
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** It's likely that Bumi didn't come to rule Omashu through blood, based on 2 pieces of circumstantial evidence. 1) In flashbacks, Bumi is never addressed as a royal (though this could be for the viewer's surprise later) nor does he wear elegant clothes. Even a kid as eccentric as Bumi would probably be forced to wear royal clothes 24/7. 2) Though the audience knows very little of what happened to Bumi in the 100 years that passed, it is very apparent that there is no royal family nor any successors to the throne. Even a man like Bumi, as the king, would be still be interested in continuing the royal bloodline. This may suggest that there ''isn't one''. ''YMMV Or I could be entirely wrong'
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** It's likely that Bumi didn't come to rule Omashu through blood, based on 2 pieces of circumstantial evidence. 1) In flashbacks, Bumi is never addressed as a royal (though this could be for the viewer's surprise later) nor does he wear elegant clothes. Even a kid as eccentric as Bumi would probably be forced to wear royal clothes 24/7. 2) Though the audience knows very little of what happened to Bumi in the 100 years that passed, it is very apparent that there is no royal family nor any successors to the throne. Even a man like Bumi, as the king, would be still be interested in continuing the royal bloodline. This may suggest that there ''isn't one''. ''YMMV [[Main/YMMV Or I that could be entirely wrong'wrong]]
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** It's likely that Bumi didn't come to rule Omashu through blood, based on 2 pieces of circumstantial evidence. 1) In flashbacks, Bumi is never addressed as a royal (though this could be for the viewer's surprise later) nor does he wear elegant clothes. Even a kid as eccentric as Bumi would probably be forced to wear royal clothes 24/7. 2) Though the audience knows very little of what happened to Bumi in the 100 years that passed, it is very apparent that there is no royal family nor any successors to the throne. Even a man like Bumi, as the king, would be still be interested in continuing the royal bloodline. This may suggest that there ''isn't one''. [[YMMV Or I could be entirely wrong]]
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** It's likely that Bumi didn't come to rule Omashu through blood, based on 2 pieces of circumstantial evidence. 1) In flashbacks, Bumi is never addressed as a royal (though this could be for the viewer's surprise later) nor does he wear elegant clothes. Even a kid as eccentric as Bumi would probably be forced to wear royal clothes 24/7. 2) Though the audience knows very little of what happened to Bumi in the 100 years that passed, it is very apparent that there is no royal family nor any successors to the throne. Even a man like Bumi, as the king, would be still be interested in continuing the royal bloodline. This may suggest that there ''isn't one''. [[YMMV ''YMMV Or I could be entirely wrong]]wrong'
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** It's likely that Bumi didn't come to rule Omashu through blood, based on 2 pieces of circumstantial evidence. 1) In flashbacks, Bumi is never addressed as a royal (though this could be for the viewer's surprise later) nor does he wear elegant clothes. Even a kid as eccentric as Bumi would probably be forced to wear royal clothes 24/7. 2) Though the audience knows very little of what happened to Bumi in the 100 years that passed, it is very apparent that there is no royal family nor any successors to the throne. Even a man like Bumi, as the king, would be still be interested in continuing the royal bloodline. This may suggest that there ''isn't one''.
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** It's likely that Bumi didn't come to rule Omashu through blood, based on 2 pieces of circumstantial evidence. 1) In flashbacks, Bumi is never addressed as a royal (though this could be for the viewer's surprise later) nor does he wear elegant clothes. Even a kid as eccentric as Bumi would probably be forced to wear royal clothes 24/7. 2) Though the audience knows very little of what happened to Bumi in the 100 years that passed, it is very apparent that there is no royal family nor any successors to the throne. Even a man like Bumi, as the king, would be still be interested in continuing the royal bloodline. This may suggest that there ''isn't one''. [[YMMV Or I could be entirely wrong]]
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** It's likely that Bumi didn't come to rule Omashu through blood, based on 2 pieces of circumstantial evidence. 1)In flashbacks, Bumi is never addressed as a royal (though this could be for the viewer's surprise later) nor does he wear elegant clothes. Even a kid as eccentric as Bumi would probably be forced to wear royal clothes 24/7. 2)Though the audience knows very little of what happened to Bumi in the 100 years that passed, it is very apparent that there is no royal family nor any successors to the throne. Even a man like Bumi, as the king, would be still be interested in continuing the royal bloodline. This may suggest that there ''"isn't one"''.
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** It's likely that Bumi didn't come to rule Omashu through blood, based on 2 pieces of circumstantial evidence. 1)In 1) In flashbacks, Bumi is never addressed as a royal (though this could be for the viewer's surprise later) nor does he wear elegant clothes. Even a kid as eccentric as Bumi would probably be forced to wear royal clothes 24/7. 2)Though 2) Though the audience knows very little of what happened to Bumi in the 100 years that passed, it is very apparent that there is no royal family nor any successors to the throne. Even a man like Bumi, as the king, would be still be interested in continuing the royal bloodline. This may suggest that there ''"isn't one"''.''isn't one''.
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** This confused me as well, but it's likely that Bumi didn't come to rule Omashu through blood, based on 2 pieces of circumstantial evidence.
1)In flashbacks, Bumi is never addressed as a prince (though this could be for the viewer's surprise later) nor does he wear elegant clothes. Even a kid as eccentric as Bumi would probably be forced to wear royal clothes 24/7. 2)Though the audience knows very little of what happened to Bumi in the 100 years that passed, it is very apparent that there is no royal family and no successors to the throne. Even a man like Bumi, as the king, would be still be interested in continuing the royal bloodline. This may suggest that there ''"isn't one"''. Perhaps Omashu isn't a monarchy in traditional sense, but the leader is still called a king.
1)In flashbacks, Bumi is never addressed as a prince (though this could be for the viewer's surprise later) nor does he wear elegant clothes. Even a kid as eccentric as Bumi would probably be forced to wear royal clothes 24/7. 2)Though the audience knows very little of what happened to Bumi in the 100 years that passed, it is very apparent that there is no royal family and no successors to the throne. Even a man like Bumi, as the king, would be still be interested in continuing the royal bloodline. This may suggest that there ''"isn't one"''. Perhaps Omashu isn't a monarchy in traditional sense, but the leader is still called a king.
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evidence. 1)In flashbacks, Bumi is never addressed as a prince royal (though this could be for the viewer's surprise later) nor does he wear elegant clothes. Even a kid as eccentric as Bumi would probably be forced to wear royal clothes 24/7. 2)Though the audience knows very little of what happened to Bumi in the 100 years that passed, it is very apparent that there is no royal family and no nor any successors to the throne. Even a man like Bumi, as the king, would be still be interested in continuing the royal bloodline. This may suggest that there ''"isn't one"''. Perhaps Omashu isn't a monarchy in traditional sense, but the leader is still called a king.
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** This confused me as well, but it's likely that Bumi didn't come to rule Omashu through blood, based on 2 pieces of circumstantial evidence.
1)In flashbacks, Bumi is never addressed as a prince (though this could be for the viewer's surprise later) nor does he wear elegant clothes. Even a kid as eccentric as Bumi would probably be forced to wear royal clothes 24/7. 2)Though the audience knows very little of what happened to Bumi in the 100 years that passed, it is very apparent that there is no royal family and no successors to the throne. Even a man like Bumi, as the king, would be still be interested in continuing the royal bloodline. This may suggest that there ''"isn't one"''. Perhaps Omashu isn't a monarchy in traditional sense, but the leader is still called a king.
1)In flashbacks, Bumi is never addressed as a prince (though this could be for the viewer's surprise later) nor does he wear elegant clothes. Even a kid as eccentric as Bumi would probably be forced to wear royal clothes 24/7. 2)Though the audience knows very little of what happened to Bumi in the 100 years that passed, it is very apparent that there is no royal family and no successors to the throne. Even a man like Bumi, as the king, would be still be interested in continuing the royal bloodline. This may suggest that there ''"isn't one"''. Perhaps Omashu isn't a monarchy in traditional sense, but the leader is still called a king.
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*** Think about it, the Sky Bison were large and very easy to find. Plus, they gave the Air Nomads a great advantage due their use as transportation, which was a good reason to eliminate them. The flying lemurs were very small and could hide easily, and their extinction wouldn’t give the Fire Nation any advantage. It would be like attempting to hunt down every rat in existence.
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**** Think about it, the Sky Bison were large and very easy to find. Plus, they gave the Air Nomads a great advantage due their use as transportation, which was a good reason to eliminate them. The flying lemurs were very small and could hide easily, and their extinction wouldn’t give the Fire Nation any advantage. It would be like attempting to hunt down every rat in existence.
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*** You don't cross the princess, as Azula showed she would torture Ty Lee until she agreed to join her crusade. Plus, Mai saw that Tom-Tom was happily giggling in the arms of his "captors," a boy and girl her age who are struggling to hold him. He was perfectly safe. Mai trusted that the same people who saved her from an assassination attempt WouldntHurtAChild.
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** Mai doesn't fear Azula in a straight fight. What she does fear at the time is the risk of being the cause of destruction for her family's political power. Remember "The Beach", when Mai was allowed freedom so long as she never got out of line with her parents who were at the time, grasping at Ozai's coattails of power. Mai turning against her at that point would've ruined her family and it would've been revealed as her fault. Ty Lee probably revealed to the Kyoshi Warriors at prison that she was an abuse victim just as much as Mai was. All she'd have to say is "Azula recruited me by setting my circus on fire", and you'd have a sympathetic ear. Did they get off light? Perhaps. Duress is a common legal arugment of our time, maybe not theirs, but when your orders are "do or die", you're bound to get an ear.
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** Mai doesn't fear Azula in a straight fight. What she does fear at the time is the risk of being the cause of destruction for her family's political power. Remember "The Beach", when Mai was allowed freedom so long as she never got out of line with her parents who were at the time, grasping at Ozai's coattails of power. Mai turning against her at that point would've ruined her family and it would've been revealed as her fault. Ty Lee probably revealed to the Kyoshi Warriors at prison that she was an abuse victim just as much as Mai was. All she'd have to say is "Azula recruited me by setting my circus on fire", and you'd have a sympathetic ear. Did they get off light? Perhaps. Duress is a common legal arugment argument of our time, maybe not theirs, but when your orders are "do or die", you're bound to get an ear.ear.
** Fwiw, ''Sokka'' and some of the Kyoshi warriors aren't comfortable with accepting someone into their fold who impersonated them. He reacts with a JawDrop, and two of them that she hugs have TheUnsmile. Ty Lee earned her way into the Kyoshi Warriors by teaching them chi-blocking, and Suki made the call to accept her on seeing how valuable that would be. Presumably, the other Warriors are keeping an eye on Ty Lee to make sure she doesn't get up to any monkey business and ensure that she does right by their reputation. As for Mai? She'll only have to pay the debt if she ever returns to the Earth Kingdom. For now, she's focused on staying where it's safe for her to never confornt the consequences of her actions.
** Fwiw, ''Sokka'' and some of the Kyoshi warriors aren't comfortable with accepting someone into their fold who impersonated them. He reacts with a JawDrop, and two of them that she hugs have TheUnsmile. Ty Lee earned her way into the Kyoshi Warriors by teaching them chi-blocking, and Suki made the call to accept her on seeing how valuable that would be. Presumably, the other Warriors are keeping an eye on Ty Lee to make sure she doesn't get up to any monkey business and ensure that she does right by their reputation. As for Mai? She'll only have to pay the debt if she ever returns to the Earth Kingdom. For now, she's focused on staying where it's safe for her to never confornt the consequences of her actions.
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** In "Lake Laogai," Long Feng [[GoryDiscretionShot (presumably)]] shot the rock right at Jet in the chest. In "The Runaway," Aang raised up a giant rock ''that Sokka then ran into''. Maybe Sokka should have realistically really gotten a broken nose out out
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** Maybe he wants to do it himself for the glory and/or honor. Or he won't get paid if someone else gets to the Avatar before him.
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** Then why does he burn the note that would've informed the Fire Nation leadership about the Avatar being alive, instead of letting the messenger hawk carry it to its destination?
