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** He's a Fire Nation national, and one that the Prince knows enough about to hire directly. It's possible that he's genuinely loyal to the Fire Nation and its goals, and once he realizes his target is the Fire Nation's single biggest enemy, he wants to do "the right thing" for his country.
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* sorry if this is a stupid question and I probably just missed an episode but I thought that Boomi was the earth king, how did that guy with the bear end up in charge, also did the Dai Li exist when Boomi was in charge, and if not how did they gain so much power so quickly. If they did exist why did Boomi allow them to exist?
** Boomi was only king of Omashu. The other guy was the Earth King (king of the whole Earth Kingdom). The Dai Li were always there.

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* sorry Sorry if this is a stupid question and I probably just missed an episode but I thought that Boomi Bumi was the earth king, how did that guy with the bear end up in charge, also charge? Also did the Dai Li exist when Boomi Bumi was in charge, and if not how did they gain so much power so quickly. quickly? If they did didn't exist why did Boomi Bumi allow them to exist?
** Boomi Bumi was only king of Omashu. The other guy was the Earth King (king of the whole Earth Kingdom). The Dai Li were always there.



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** 1: Their Kyoshi Warrior disguises are a lot better than any other disguise we see in the series. If they ran into the Gaang they can just pretend they're not the two or three lead Kyoshi Warriors they're probably more familiar with, say they're new recruits or something. 2: The fact she didn't need a backup plan is by no means indication she didn't have one. Dressing as the Kyoshi Warriors may have only been the first step in the plan, meant to get them to the palace and nothing else. They weren't relying on luck so much as taking advantage of it once it arose. 3: Sokka opened his mouth when he heard that three Kiyoshi Warriors had arrived and were deemed trustworthy on hearing the name "Kiyoshi Warriors", causing the Earth King to trust in them immediately, with Sokka none the wiser that they weren't imposters.

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** 1: Their Kyoshi Warrior disguises are a lot better than any other disguise we see in the series. If they ran into the Gaang they can just pretend they're not the two or three lead Kyoshi Warriors they're probably more familiar with, say they're new recruits or something. 2: The fact she didn't need a backup plan is by no means indication she didn't have one. Dressing as the Kyoshi Warriors may have only been the first step in the plan, meant to get them to the palace and nothing else. They weren't relying on luck so much as taking advantage of it once it arose. 3: Sokka opened his mouth when he heard that three Kiyoshi Kyoshi Warriors had arrived and were deemed trustworthy on hearing the name "Kiyoshi "Kyoshi Warriors", causing the Earth King to trust in them immediately, with Sokka none the wiser that they weren't imposters.

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** Long Feng and the Dai Li are obviously an expy of the Communist Party in China (and possibly the Communist Party in North Korea). Presumably the members of Dai Li get all sorts of benefits regular citizen's don't get, which would explain why they have remained loyal to the organization. The organization has probably existed for generations (just like the Communist Party), and Long Feng is merely its current leader. The reason the Dai Li have wanted to keep regular citizens uninformed on the war is the same reason the North Korean Communist Party keeps on denying the country is suffering from famines; to admit it would be to admit they are not in full control of things. As for the King, they want to keep him uninformed on anything he might want to exert his power on (not just the war), so that they can keep controlling the society and reap the benefits of their position. The Generals probably co-operate with the Dai Li, and don't want the King to mess with their affairs either. One reason why they don't want the King to know about the war is that he's obviously very naive, and would make a terrible Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces (a position that a king would naturally have). And the reason why the Dai Li change sides so easily is exactly what you say above: they come to realize that the war has been fought for decades, Fire Nation has colonized most of Earth Nation, and no one is coming tho help Ba Sing Se, so better side with the likely winner. Keep in mind that the agents of Dai Li are the sort of people who are drawn to power and its benefits, so nationalism matters little to them. The generals, on the other hand, do seem to be more driven by nationalism and honour, so the Dai Li can't count on them to change sides, which is why they have to be removed from the picture. The reason Long Feng keeps on running the city as if nothing's wrong, and doesn't choose to work with Azula with the rest of Dai Li, is that he's probably worked long and hard to get to his top dog position. He's too stubborn and too attached to his power to admit that the Fire Nation has essentially won the war. (Remember how Azula says that Long Feng doesn't have the innate charisma aristocracs are – according to her – born with. He probably was born into a middle class family, and had to climb his way up the society's ladder.) If the Fire Nation colonizes Bai Sing Se, the position of the ''de facto'' ruler he worked so hard to attain is lost forever.

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** Long Feng and the Dai Li are obviously an expy of the Communist Party in China (and possibly the Communist Party in North Korea). Presumably the members of Dai Li get all sorts of benefits regular citizen's don't get, which would explain why they have remained loyal to the organization. The organization has probably existed for generations (just like the Communist Party), and Long Feng is merely its current leader. The reason the Dai Li have wanted to keep regular citizens uninformed on the war is the same reason the North Korean Communist Party keeps on denying the country is suffering from famines; to admit it would be to admit they are not in full control of things. As for the King, they want to keep him uninformed on anything he might want to exert his power on (not just the war), so that they can keep controlling the society and reap the benefits of their position. The Generals probably co-operate with the Dai Li, and don't want the King to mess with their affairs either. One reason why they don't want the King to know about the war is that he's obviously very naive, and would make a terrible Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces (a position that a king would naturally have). And the reason why the Dai Li change sides so easily is exactly what you say above: they come to realize that the war has been fought for decades, Fire Nation has colonized most of Earth Nation, and no one is coming tho to help Ba Sing Se, so better side with the likely winner. Keep in mind that the agents of Dai Li are the sort of people who are drawn to power and its benefits, so nationalism matters little to them. The generals, on the other hand, do seem to be more driven by nationalism and honour, so the Dai Li can't count on them to change sides, which is why they have to be removed from the picture. The reason Long Feng keeps on running the city as if nothing's wrong, and doesn't choose to work with Azula with the rest of Dai Li, is that he's probably worked long and hard to get to his top dog position. He's too stubborn and too attached to his power to admit that the Fire Nation has essentially won the war. (Remember how Azula says that Long Feng doesn't have the innate charisma aristocracs are – according to her – born with. He probably was born into a middle class family, and had to climb his way up the society's ladder.) If the Fire Nation colonizes Bai Sing Se, the position of the ''de facto'' ruler he worked so hard to attain is lost forever.
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*** Azula was really unlucky that Katara was the one who remained in Ba Sing Se. She had Suki's exact body type; you could only tell who she was by the eyes, and, well, Sokka could have gone a long time looking at **other things**.

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*** Azula was really unlucky that Katara was the one who remained in Ba Sing Se. She had Suki's exact body type; you could only tell who she was by the eyes, and, well, Sokka could have gone a long time looking at **other things**.at... Other things.
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*** Azula was really unlucky that Katara was the one who remained in Ba Sing Se. She had Suki's exact body type; you could only tell who she was by the eyes, and, well, Sokka could have gone a long time looking at *other things*.

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*** Azula was really unlucky that Katara was the one who remained in Ba Sing Se. She had Suki's exact body type; you could only tell who she was by the eyes, and, well, Sokka could have gone a long time looking at *other things*.**other things**.

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** Well I've always thought,although this idea might have come from another source,that Ozai covered up the truth up until the end of the first book,the FN nobles who were there knew but were ordered to stay silent and so the FN soldiers were told only the basics that Zuko was ordered to find the Avatar but after the Siege of the North Ozai learns enough of what happened to declare Zuko and Iroh traitors so the propaganda machine,which the FN like all good dictatorships has,revealed the truth and spread it so far that even that EK peasant knew eventually probably Zuko was quite the hot topic of conversation being the son of the "love him or hate him" Fire Lord.
*** As to the second question Toph was probably referring to Azula,she was much more of a physical presence in their life than Ozai and can make one hell of a impression.
*** About anybody disguising themselves in the show,basically everyone's a moron see all the infiltrations of Ba Sing Se and that FN principal thinking Katara was Aang's mom,and as aside Azula was really unlucky that Katara was the one who remained in Ba Sing Se she has Suki's exact body type,you could only tell who she was by the eyes,and well Sokka could have gone a long time looking at other things.

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** Well I've always thought,although thought, although this idea might have come from another source,that source, that Ozai covered up the truth up until the end of the first book,the FN book. The [=FN=] nobles who were there knew knew, but were ordered to stay silent and so the FN silent. The [=FN=] soldiers were told only the basics basics, that Zuko was ordered to find the Avatar but after Avatar. After the Siege of the North North, Ozai learns enough of what happened to declare Zuko and Iroh traitors traitors, so the propaganda machine,which machine (which the FN [=FN=] like all good dictatorships has,revealed has), revealed the truth and spread it so far that even that EK [=EK=] peasant knew eventually eventually. Zuko was probably Zuko was quite the hot topic of conversation being the son of the "love him or hate him" Fire Lord.
*** As to the second question question, Toph was probably referring to Azula,she Azula. She was much more of a physical presence in their life lives than Ozai Ozai, and can make one hell of a impression.
*** About anybody disguising themselves in the show,basically show, basically everyone's a moron see moron. See all the infiltrations of Ba Sing Se Se, and that FN [=FN=] principal thinking Katara was Aang's mom,and as aside mom.
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Azula was really unlucky that Katara was the one who remained in Ba Sing Se she has Se. She had Suki's exact body type,you type; you could only tell who she was by the eyes,and well eyes, and, well, Sokka could have gone a long time looking at other things.*other things*.
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** I second the troper above; In Ninjutsu one of the very first things you learn is the''Gogyo no Kata'', a.k.a the "Five Elements". You pass through 9 ''kyu'' (stages or belts in other martial arts) and you get your first Dan, or black belt. Once you're '''10th''' Dan, what do you do next? Go back to the Five Elements and spend an entire stage (which could take years) on ''each of them''. 15th Dan if effectively the highest stage. As the{{OldandWise}} man we know Iroh to be it makes sense that he's forcing Zuko to go through the basics over and over in an attempt to counteract the impulsiveness and recklessness of his nephew, as those qualities would never allow him to be the better firebender his uncle knows he can be.

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** I second the troper above; In Ninjutsu one of the very first things you learn is the''Gogyo the ''Gogyo no Kata'', a.k.a the "Five Elements". You pass through 9 ''kyu'' (stages or belts in other martial arts) and you get your first Dan, or black belt. Once you're '''10th''' Dan, what do you do next? Go back to the Five Elements and spend an entire stage (which could take years) on ''each of them''. 15th Dan if effectively the highest stage. As the{{OldandWise}} man the [[OldMaster man]] we know Iroh to be it makes sense that he's forcing Zuko to go through the basics over and over in an attempt to counteract the impulsiveness and recklessness of his nephew, as those qualities would never allow him to be the better firebender his uncle knows he can be.
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** [[RealityIsUnrealistic]] much? A woman is capable of reproducing from ages 12 to 50 (give or take). A man is capable of reproducing ''his entire life''. It's possible that Iroh and Ozai's mother had Iroh in her twenties and Ozai in her forties. Or Iroh and Ozai are half-brothers.

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** [[RealityIsUnrealistic]] RealityIsUnrealistic much? A woman is capable of reproducing from ages 12 to 50 (give or take). A man is capable of reproducing ''his entire life''. It's possible that Iroh and Ozai's mother had Iroh in her twenties and Ozai in her forties. Or Iroh and Ozai are half-brothers.
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*** Azula was BSing during that whole scene, if you think about it. The Dai Li were ''afraid'' of her, and for good reason. Would ''you'' want to try and handcuff the girl who can shoot lightning at you? Didn't think so. Azula just spun the whole "They don't know who to support" tale as a way of saying "Well, Long Feng, It looks like we're going to have to fight for control. Do you think you can win?" Long Feng, and everyone in the room, knew he couldn't take Azula and even ''dream'' of to coming out of that fight in one piece. So he quit.

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*** Azula was BSing [=BSing=] during that whole scene, if you think about it. The Dai Li were ''afraid'' of her, and for good reason. Would ''you'' want to try and handcuff the girl who can shoot lightning at you? Didn't think so. Azula just spun the whole "They don't know who to support" tale as a way of saying "Well, Long Feng, It looks like we're going to have to fight for control. Do you think you can win?" Long Feng, and everyone in the room, knew he couldn't take Azula and even ''dream'' of to coming out of that fight in one piece. So he quit.
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** First of all, Zuko is the older one. Second, Zuko is still family. Third, as far as Azula could tell, Zuko has continued tracking the Avatar (He fought her for the right to get to him, remember?) and attempting to restore his honor, indicating thart he is, indeed, still loyal to Ozai and the Fire Nation. No reason to kill him at all, really.

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** First of all, Zuko is the older one. Second, Zuko is still family. Third, as far as Azula could tell, Zuko has continued tracking the Avatar (He fought her for the right to get to him, remember?) and attempting to restore his honor, indicating thart that he is, indeed, still loyal to Ozai and the Fire Nation. No reason to kill him at all, really.
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*** Probably from the fact that the Fire Nation, I don't know... Wiped out all of the Airbenders and the Sky Bisons a hundred years ago? And you expect me to believe they spared the sky lemurs if they didn't even spare the bisons? And also the fact that he was completely alone in the Air Temple with no hint of having any living parents mentioned.


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** I always assumed he was using "it's complicated" the same way people do in real life when they want to deflect someone's feelings without hurting them. Zuko clearly likes Jin (romantically or otherwise) but at the same time he's made it abundantly clear that he does ''not'' want to settle down and be happy in Ba Sing Se. For Zuko, happiness is his father's acceptance of him, returning to the Fire Nation, and regaining his honor and his birthrite. Not spending his days as assistant tea server. So here comes a nice, pretty girl who likes him and provides him with a chance of happiness that doesn't fit in his framework, and Zuko does what he always does when confronted with someone treating him unexpectedly: he pushes them away. I think, to some level, Zuko did have fun on the date. Remember when Jin kisses him, he pauses for a moment and then kisses her back for a second time. When confronted, he doesn't pull back or lash out, he ''reciprocates'' because in the moment he does want to kiss her. He's a teenage boy with hormones and she's a pretty girl who likes him (probably the first one to ever be since his exile) so it's a natural response to want to kiss someone you're interested in. It's only when his brain starts working again that he leaves, because settling down in a tea shop with a nice, normal Earth Nation girl is, on an intellectual level, ''not what he wants in life''. As much as he may like the date (and he admits as much) he can't allow himself longterm happiness outside of the parameters that have been set for him by his family. If this same scene had been recreated with Season 3 Zuko, then it could have gone much differently and maybe he could have settled down in Ba Sing Se and kept seeing Jin, but this is Zuko when his brain and his heart were telling him conflicting messages about his path in life. So yeah. It is complicated.
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** He's the fugitive prince of the nation that's currently trying to take over the city, which kinda sorta complicated the ''last'' time he tried making friends with Earth Kingdom people. ''Everything'' about Zuko's situation makes dating complicated.
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** Three different timeframes, three different plans; all of which change. First plan was to get Iroh and Zuko back home as prisoners. Once Zuko helped her defeat the Avatar and Katara, Azula saw fit to bring Zuko back home as a hero to also get her brother back. She does love him in her own way, but as "The Beach" shows us about Azula, she can't express care and concern unless she's got something else up her sleeve as a backup.

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** Mai doesn't fear Azula in a straight fight. What she does fear at the time is the risk of being the cause of destruction for her family's political power. Remember "The Beach", when Mai was allowed freedom so long as she never got out of line with her parents who were at the time, grasping at Ozai's coattails of power. Mai turning against her at that point would've ruined her family and it would've been revealed as her fault. Ty Lee probably revealed to the Kyoshi Warriors at prison that she was an abuse victim just as much as Mai was. All she'd have to say is "Azula recruited me by setting my circus on fire", and you'd have a sympathetic ear. Did they get off light? Perhaps. Duress is a common legal arugment of our time, maybe not theirs, but when your orders are "do or die", you're bound to get an ear.

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** To elaborate a bit more on the above; two kids means you can lose one and still keep an heir to the throne. Azula's gifted and his (probably) ideal heir, but if she were to god forbid die in combat, then he's out of an successor with Zuko and her gone (unless he has more with another wife, the royal family seems blessed with long lives). Iroh only had one child and thus lost any other way to continue the family bloodline.
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** It'd be more merciful in the sense that he's letting Zuko die without seeing it coming, meaning his last living moments will have been spent sleeping peacefully instead of being confronted with the fact that his own father was forced to strike him down and kill him. (At least that would've been the case if Azula hasn't told him about the death sentence beforehand, but even then, Zuko was still in denial about it.)
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** Either way, a kill's a kill so it's not as much merciful as Ozai's making it sound like it is. Perhaps Ursa sugarcoated it a bit; but if I were to put myself in her shoes; it'd be rather hard to tell her son that her father wanted him dead. It would be something a younger Zuko couldn't accept but the older one who already survived a murder attempt or 5 by comics is ready to accept.
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*** That is a gross mischaracterization of Zuko. You're conflating stupidity with desperation. He had literally no choice but to face the Avatar if he wanted to return home, and perhaps your memory of the North Pole is different from mine, but I remember him using stealth and intelligence to break into the NWT in a matter of maybe an hour or so, where the entire FN navy took ages to break through. Throughout the series he is shown to be extremely clever and resourceful. He was able to break Aang out of Zhao's prison without bending or speaking. He deduced that the seal creatures were coming up for air somewhere, so the hole in the ice would be safe to dive into. He managed to trick a Sun Warrior temple into opening on a day that wasn't the solstice. He has a far greater range of abilities than any of the main characters, and Aang himself agrees that he's very smart.

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