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** In an earlier scene, Al and the Genie do go into a bit more detail as to what he can and can’t do without making a wish; the implication I got is that he can’t do anything specifically to benefit his master without it falling under the context of a wish. For example, he’s able to distract Dalia to allow Aladdin into Jasmine’s room, but only because wooing Dalia is something he wants to do himself, so he’s not doing it just for Aladdin. The dance moves and editing the map fall under the “become a prince” wish, and sending the carpet to where Jafar banished Aladdin isn’t as direct as personally pulling him out of the sea. Odds are if Jafar hadn’t thrown Al into the sea to try and kill him and had instead gone with something where he could be saved by the carpet, the Genie could’ve summoned the carpet to save him without using a wish. But the carpet presumably can’t function under the water, so the only way for Al to be saved is if the Genie directly and personally did something himself.
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** Apparently genies are not on the same level of cultural awareness as flying carpets in Aladdin's world.
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** In his initial rant where he kills the first underling, he mentions he once spent five years in their prison. It isn't said whether he was guilty or not, or maybe he did the crime to survive, but has held a deep boiling grudge against the people and country since.
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* To my recollection, we’re never told anything about Shirabad except that it’s where Jasmine’s mother came from and that the Sultan still considers its people to be his friends and allies. And Jafar’s primary motivation appears to still be gaining power — even if a war is just for the sake of conquest, why is he pushing to gain international support through Jasmine’s marriage rather than waiting until he’s in charge?
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* Aladdin’s reaction to meeting Carpet is, as I recall, something along the lines of “Whoa, so these things DO exist,” hinting that it’s something he’s heard of through the myths and folklore of his culture. But when he meets the Genie, he’s not only shocked but seems to have no idea what a genie is — he thinks he’s a giant at first and has to be educated on the process of being given three wishes. Wouldn’t there to be similar stories about genies that he’d have heard at some point, so he’d at least understand the basic concept behind them?
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** Even cave people would know to wish for some nice food, a huge club, somebody sexy to kiss...
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** The Agrabah in question may be the city itself, not the nation-state. Babylon (for example) lasted for almost two thousand years, but only belonged to a "Babylonian" ruler for about half that time; it's possible that Agrabah has changed hands once or twice between then and now.

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** It’s actually the magic Carpet that clues Jafar and Iago in, apparently they were aware there was one inside the cave of wonders.




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** It’s a movie set in a fictional place it doesn’t have to gel with real history.
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* 10,000 years ago, civilization barely existed. How would someone have even spoken to the genie to make wishes or known what to wish for?

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* If there's a real-life analogy, I don't know of any ruling dynasty in that part of the world that had a monopoly for a whole millenia. Perhaps, Constantinople? Besides, if it was an Islamic-based society. The Abbasid Caliphate which this is based off lasted 750-1258

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* Jafar pushes for Jasmine to marry Prince Anders of Skanland, as he wishes to add Skanland's military might to Agrabah's when he attacks Shirabad. But Skanland is implied to be a Scandinavian analogue, while Agrabah (and presumably Shirabad) are in Arabia. How does an alliance with such a far away land improve Agrabah's position in case of a war with Shirabad?
** Had Anders married Jasmine then he would have been the new Sultan, meaning Skanland would have been obligated to send troops and supplies to Agrabah if they went to war regardless of how far away it was.
** In addition, Skanland's national dress seems more Slavic than Scandinavian; if Skanland is Russia and Shirabad is Persia, an alliance lets Agrabah hit them from both the north and south in a pincer movement.

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* Jafar pushes for Jasmine to marry Prince Anders of Skanland, Skånland, as he wishes to add Skanland's Skånland's military might to Agrabah's when he attacks Shirabad. But Skanland Skånland is implied to be a Scandinavian analogue, while Agrabah (and presumably Shirabad) are in Arabia. How does an alliance with such a far away land improve Agrabah's position in case of a war with Shirabad?
** Had Anders married Jasmine then he would have been the new Sultan, meaning Skanland Skånland would have been obligated to send troops and supplies to Agrabah if they went to war regardless of how far away it was.
** In addition, Skanland's Skånland's national dress seems more Slavic than Scandinavian; if Skanland Skånland is Russia and Shirabad is Persia, an alliance lets Agrabah hit them from both the north and south in a pincer movement.


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** [[MathematiciansAnswer A gift.]]
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** Because he knew of Aladdin's want to woo Princess Jasmine, and then suddenly this "Prince Ali Ababwa" shows up with the pomp turned up to eleven right after that whole incident at the Cave of Wonders. Jasmine figured it out because of prior knowledge too.

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** Because he knew of Aladdin's want to woo Princess Jasmine, and then suddenly this "Prince Ali Ababwa" shows up with the pomp hype turned up to eleven right after that whole incident at the Cave of Wonders. Jasmine figured it out because of prior knowledge too.
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*** He was not dead. Many people who were brought back from the brink of death with modern medical science would have been declared dead by medical knowledge centuries or even decades before. Furthermore Aladdin started breathing again on his own once he had air to breathe again; Genie was begging him to start breathing again and then Aladdin hacked up lungwater onto a dually disgusted and relieved Genie. As for Genie's action on Carpet: since the whole nature of Aladdin's Second Wish to "save you from certain death" was already in a gray area in invocation, and Genie already had been on an extended job in full faith of Al's first wish, he considered surreptitiously blinking Carpet to Aladdin's location to be in the spirit of Al's second wish.

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*** He was not dead. Many people who were brought back from the brink of death with modern medical science would have been declared dead by medical knowledge centuries or even decades before. Furthermore Aladdin started breathing again on his own once he had air to breathe again; Genie was begging him to start breathing again and then Aladdin hacked up lungwater onto a dually disgusted and relieved Genie. As for Genie's action on Carpet: since the whole nature of Aladdin's Second Wish to "save you from certain death" was already in a gray area in invocation, and Genie already had been on an extended job in full faith of Al's first wish, he considered surreptitiously blinking Carpet to Aladdin's location to be in the spirit of Al's second wish. Al's second wish was to be "saved from certain death"; death would have been certain and cold where he was sent.
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* Genie explains that his glamour magic is just "an Illusion" and will only allow people to see what they want to see. Genie's rules of not being able to make anyone fall in love with you can be extended to mean "I cannot change someone's free will", and that includes forcing someone to believe you are someone or something you're not. Genies transformation doesn't change what you actually look like, instead only giving you enough external accessories to pass when it comes to cursory inspection/being glanced at for a second or two by people that don't know who you are. Jafar can break this immediately because he is an accomplished sorcerer but most importantly knows what Alladin looks like. Jasmine took longer, but still got through because the Magic is paper thin, and all it took was a closer look at his face from up close and some trapped questions for her to recognise him. Someone that doesn't know Alladin at all would likely be totally unable to break the "Prince Ali" disguise because "Prince Ali" is all they have ever known.

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* ** Genie explains that his glamour magic is just "an Illusion" and will only allow people to see what they want to see. Genie's rules of not being able to make anyone fall in love with you can be extended to mean "I cannot change someone's free will", and that includes forcing someone to believe you are someone or something you're not. Genies transformation doesn't change what you actually look like, instead only giving you enough external accessories to pass when it comes to cursory inspection/being glanced at for a second or two by people that don't know who you are. Jafar can break this immediately because he is an accomplished sorcerer but most importantly knows what Alladin looks like. Jasmine took longer, but still got through because the Magic is paper thin, and all it took was a closer look at his face from up close and some trapped questions for her to recognise him. Someone that doesn't know Alladin at all would likely be totally unable to break the "Prince Ali" disguise because "Prince Ali" is all they have ever known.
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* Genie explains that his glamour magic is just "an Illusion" and will only allow people to see what they want to see. Genie's rules of not being able to make anyone fall in love with you can be extended to mean "I cannot change someone's free will", and that includes forcing someone to believe you are someone or something you're not. Genies transformation doesn't change what you actually look like, instead only giving you enough external accessories to pass when it comes to cursory inspection/being glanced at for a second or two by people that don't know who you are. Jafar can break this immediately because he is an accomplished sorcerer but most importantly knows what Alladin looks like. Jasmine took longer, but still got through because the Magic is paper thin, and all it took was a closer look at his face from up close and some trapped questions for her to recognise him. Someone that doesn't know Alladin at all would likely be totally unable to break the "Prince Ali" disguise because "Prince Ali" is all they have ever known.
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*** He was not dead. Many people who were brought back from the brink of death with modern medical science would have been declared dead by medical knowledge centuries or even decades before. Furthermore Aladdin started breathing again on his own once he had air to breathe again; Genie was begging him to start breathing again and then Aladdin hacked up lungwater onto a mildly disgusted Genie. As for Genie's action on Carpet: since the whole nature of Aladdin's Second Wish to "save you from certain death" was already in a gray area in invocation, and Genie already had been on an extended job in full faith of Al's first wish, he considered surreptitiously blinking Carpet to Aladdin's location to be in the spirit of Al's second wish.

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*** He was not dead. Many people who were brought back from the brink of death with modern medical science would have been declared dead by medical knowledge centuries or even decades before. Furthermore Aladdin started breathing again on his own once he had air to breathe again; Genie was begging him to start breathing again and then Aladdin hacked up lungwater onto a mildly dually disgusted and relieved Genie. As for Genie's action on Carpet: since the whole nature of Aladdin's Second Wish to "save you from certain death" was already in a gray area in invocation, and Genie already had been on an extended job in full faith of Al's first wish, he considered surreptitiously blinking Carpet to Aladdin's location to be in the spirit of Al's second wish.
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** It seems to revolve around the "grey area" Genie mentions early on. Genie shows he can either obey the letter or spirit of a given wish; so helping Aladdin with dancing can be interpreted as just adding on to Aladdin's first wish since the spirit of it is to woo Jasmine. Sending the magic carpet could potentially be excused as "I sent an object to the same rough area Aladdin happened to be". But to save Aladdin when he was drowning would be directly interfering with no "grey area" to use as wiggle room.



** Building on the above, Jafar knew Aladdin still had the magic lamp. That none of his maps showed the kingdom of Ababwa and that "Prince Ali" couldn't say where it was just helped solidify things. Meanwhile Jasmine didn't seem to figure it out until "Prince Ali" did a couple things, such as brushing her hair aside, that Aladdin had done before, much like the original when "Prince Ali" asks if she trusts him the same way Aladdin had.

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** Building on the above, Jafar knew Aladdin still had the magic lamp. That none of his maps showed the kingdom of Ababwa and that "Prince Ali" couldn't say where it was just helped solidify things. Also Jafar admitted he wasn't certain and his attempted murder was the test to check. If Prince Ali dies, then Jafar's gotten rid of a potential rival; if he lives then Jafar knows both who he is and (roughly) where the lamp must be. Meanwhile Jasmine didn't seem to figure it out until "Prince Ali" did a couple things, such as brushing her hair aside, that Aladdin had done before, much like the original when "Prince Ali" asks if she trusts him the same way Aladdin had.
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** Building on the above, Jafar knew Aladdin still had the magic lamp. That none of his maps showed the kingdom of Ababwa and that "Prince Ali" couldn't say where it was just helped solidify things. Meanwhile Jasmine didn't seem to figure it out until "Prince Ali" did a couple things, such as brushing her hair aside, that Aladdin had done before, much like the original when "Prince Ali" asks if she trusts him the same way Aladdin had.
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*** He was not dead. Many people who were brought back from the brink of death with modern medical science would have been declared dead by medical knowledge centuries or even decades before. Furthermore Aladdin started breathing again on his own once he had air to breathe again. As for Genie's action on Carpet: since the whole nature of Aladdin's Second Wish to "save you from certain death" was already in a gray area in invocation, and Genie already had been on an extended job in full faith of Al's first wish, he considered surreptitiously blinking Carpet to Aladdin's location to be in the spirit of Al's second wish.

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*** He was not dead. Many people who were brought back from the brink of death with modern medical science would have been declared dead by medical knowledge centuries or even decades before. Furthermore Aladdin started breathing again on his own once he had air to breathe again.again; Genie was begging him to start breathing again and then Aladdin hacked up lungwater onto a mildly disgusted Genie. As for Genie's action on Carpet: since the whole nature of Aladdin's Second Wish to "save you from certain death" was already in a gray area in invocation, and Genie already had been on an extended job in full faith of Al's first wish, he considered surreptitiously blinking Carpet to Aladdin's location to be in the spirit of Al's second wish.
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*** He was not dead. Many people who were brought back from the brink of death with modern medical science would have been declared dead by medical knowledge centuries or even decades before. Furthermore Aladdin started breathing again on his own once he had air to breathe again. Furthermore, since the whole nature of Aladdin's Second Wish to "save you from certain death" was already in a gray area in invocation, and Genie already had been on an extended job in full faith of Al's first wish, he considered surreptitiously blinking Carpet to Aladdin's location to be in the spirit of Al's second wish.

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*** He was not dead. Many people who were brought back from the brink of death with modern medical science would have been declared dead by medical knowledge centuries or even decades before. Furthermore Aladdin started breathing again on his own once he had air to breathe again. Furthermore, As for Genie's action on Carpet: since the whole nature of Aladdin's Second Wish to "save you from certain death" was already in a gray area in invocation, and Genie already had been on an extended job in full faith of Al's first wish, he considered surreptitiously blinking Carpet to Aladdin's location to be in the spirit of Al's second wish.
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** Because he knew of Aladdin's want to woo Princess Jasmine, and then suddenly this "Prince Ali Ababwa" shows up with the pomp turned up to eleven right after that whole incident at the Cave of Wonders. Jasmine figured it out because of prior knowledge too.
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*** He was not dead. Many people who were brought back from the brink of death with modern medical science would have been declared dead by medical knowledge centuries or even decades before. Furthermore Aladdin started breathing again on his own once he had air to breathe again. Furthermore, since the whole nature of Aladdin's Second Wish to "save you from certain death" was already in a gray area in invocation, and Genie already had been on an extended job in full faith of Al's first wish, he considered surreptitiously blinking Carpet to Aladdin's location to be in the spirit of Al's second wish.
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* The Genie says that his magic will make Aladdin unrecognizable (ostensibly to explain why Jasmine didn't recognize him in the original film), so how is Jafar able to know who he is nearly right away and Jasmine isn't?

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* The Genie says that his magic will make Aladdin unrecognizable (ostensibly to explain why Jasmine didn't recognize him in the original film), so how is Jafar able to know who he is nearly right away and Jasmine isn't?isn't?
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* The Genie says that his magic will make Aladdin unrecognizable (ostensibly to explain why Jasmine didn't recognize him in the original film), so how is Jafar able to know who he is nearly right away and Jasmine isn't?

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** In addition, Skanland's national dress seems more Slavic than Scandinavian; if Skanland is Russia and Shirabad is Persia, an alliance lets Agrabah hit them from both the north and south in a pincer movement.




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** Even in the remake, he can't bring anybody back from the dead... and that's more or less where Aladdin is at that point.

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Jafar pushes for Jasmine to marry Prince Anders of Skanland, as he wishes to add Skanland's military might to Agrabah's when he attacks Shirabad. But Skanland is implied to be a Scandinavian analogue, while Agrabah (and presumably Shirabad) are in Arabia. How does an alliance with such a far away land improve Agrabah's position in case of a war with Shirabad?

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* Jafar pushes for Jasmine to marry Prince Anders of Skanland, as he wishes to add Skanland's military might to Agrabah's when he attacks Shirabad. But Skanland is implied to be a Scandinavian analogue, while Agrabah (and presumably Shirabad) are in Arabia. How does an alliance with such a far away land improve Agrabah's position in case of a war with Shirabad?Shirabad?
** Had Anders married Jasmine then he would have been the new Sultan, meaning Skanland would have been obligated to send troops and supplies to Agrabah if they went to war regardless of how far away it was.


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* What was that wheel Aladdin and Genie gave to the Sultan and Jasmine?
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The Genie does plenty of magic without an explicit wish. If he can teleport the flying carpet to the "ends of the earth" without a wish, why can't he just teleport Aladdin out of the water?

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The *The Genie does plenty of magic without an explicit wish. If he can teleport the flying carpet to the "ends of the earth" without a wish, why can't he just teleport Aladdin out of the water?
** In the original, it's a bit more clear. The Genie was TRICKED by Aladdin into getting him out of a VERY dangerous situation...so he made a deal for no more freebies.
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The Genie does plenty of magic without an explicit wish. If he can teleport the flying carpet to the "ends of the earth" without a wish, why can't he just teleport Aladdin out of the water?
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Jafar pushes for Jasmine to marry Prince Anders of Skanland, as he wishes to add Skanland's military might to Agrabah's when he attacks Shirabad. But Skanland is implied to be a Scandinavian analogue, while Agrabah (and presumably Shirabad) are in Arabia. How does an alliance with such a far away land improve Agrabah's position in case of a war with Shirabad?
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