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** It's also possible that Jasmine was willing to give Aladdin ''some'' benefit of the doubt about the bracelet. After all, he had it with him when they split up right before "One Jump Ahead"; if he really wanted to steal it, logic dictates he would've run off with it right then and left her to get caught by the guards. Rather than showing her the way to his hideaway, getting to know her, and then escorting her home before admitting that he doesn't have it with him.

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** It's also possible that Jasmine was willing to give Aladdin ''some'' benefit of the doubt about the bracelet. After all, he had it with him when they split up right before "One Jump Ahead"; if he really wanted to steal it, logic dictates he would've run off with it right then and left her to get caught by the guards. Rather than helping her elude capture, showing her the way to his hideaway, getting to know her, and then escorting her home before admitting that he doesn't have it with him.
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** It's also possible that Jasmine was willing to give Aladdin ''some'' benefit of the doubt about the bracelet. After all, he had it with him when they split up right before "One Jump Ahead"; if he really wanted to steal it, logic dictates he would've run off with it right then and left her to get caught by the guards. Rather than showing her the way to his hideaway, getting to know her, and then escorting her home before admitting that he doesn't have it with him.
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** There's also the fact that Dalia is Jasmine's personal handmaiden, and it's reasonable she'd be nearby to attend to Jasmine at her own wedding, hasty affair though it may be. Jasmine has also shown how much she cares about Dalia through her reaction to Jafar using an AgonyBeam on her. Even if Jafar didn't notice how much Genie cares for her, keeping Dalia close is still a smart move because it gives Jafar additional leverage against Jasmine.
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** They know that while Jafar is after the lamp, they don't know that he has treasonous intentions for it. As far as they knew at the time, Jafar was gonna give it to the sultan and say something like "Your highness, this is a magic lamp that houses an all-powerful genie. He will grant three wishes to whomever releases him from the lamp. I'm sure you will find great use for him to aid our people and kingdom."

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** They know that while Jafar is after the lamp, they don't know that he has treasonous intentions for it. As far as they knew at the time, Jafar was gonna give it to the sultan and say something like "Your highness, this is a magic lamp that houses an all-powerful genie. He will grant three wishes to whomever releases him from the lamp. I'm sure you will find great use for him to aid our people and kingdom."" As ruthless as Jafar was, they probably gave him the benefit of doubt that such a conspiracy was a level he'd have any qualms of stooping too.
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** They know that while Jafar is after the lamp, they don't know that he has treasonous intentions for it. As far as they knew at the time, Jafar was gonna give it to the sultan and say something like "Your highness, this is a magic lamp that houses an all-powerful genie. He will grant three wishes to whomever releases him from the lamp. I'm sure you will find great use for him to aid our people and kingdom."

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** Jafar in the cartoon knew of secret passages to get in as the old man and Aladdin out without notice. This version could easily know how to escape from the prison without notice and all he would need is a few hours to find Aladdin and take the lamp at an opportune moment.
** He also has the background of a thief who served prison time before, albeit in Shirabad, in this version.

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** Jafar in The movie shows that Iago brought him the cartoon key to his cell as soon as the guards left him alone. In the animated film, he knew of secret passages to get in as him out of the old man palace, and Aladdin out without notice. This version could easily know how to escape from the prison without notice and all in this version, he would need is a few hours to find Aladdin and take the lamp at an opportune moment.
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has the background of a thief who served prison time before, albeit in Shirabad, in this version.would be used to sneaking around unnoticed.

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** Not true - there are archaeological records of civilizations from over 20,000 years ago. And language is far older than that.
** Actually, the Genie ''didn't'' say 10,000 years. He talks about having been around for that long, but it’s said he was stuck in the lamp (this time, at least) for only ''one''-thousand years.



** Actually, the Genie ''didn't'' say 10,000 years. He alludes at various points to having been alive for 10,000 years, but when Aladdin asks, he says his most recent confinement inside the lamp lasted only ''1'',000 years.
** Not true - there are archaeological records of civilizations from over 20,000 years ago. And language is far older than that.

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** Actually, the Genie ''didn't'' say 10,000 years. He alludes at various points to having been alive for 10,000 years, but when Aladdin asks, he says his most recent confinement inside the lamp lasted only ''1'',000 years.
** Not true - there are archaeological records of civilizations from over 20,000 years ago. And language is far older than that.
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*** This isn’t necessarily true; the term can refer to either a female sultan if she so desires, or the wife of the ruling (male) sultan.

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** Husband of Queen Regnant is not a King. Albert, Prince Consort. Philip, Prince Consort.



** As with Prince Consort, a Sultana is the wife of a reigning Sultan, not a female Sultan.



** In the original, it's a bit more clear. The Genie was TRICKED by Aladdin into getting him out of a VERY dangerous situation...so he made a deal for no more freebies.

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** In the original, it's a bit more clear. The Genie was TRICKED by Aladdin into getting him out of a VERY dangerous situation... so he made a deal for no more freebies.



*** He was not dead. Many people who were brought back from the brink of death with modern medical science would have been declared dead by medical knowledge centuries or even decades before. Furthermore Aladdin started breathing again on his own once he had air to breathe again; Genie was begging him to start breathing again and then Aladdin hacked up lungwater onto a dually disgusted and relieved Genie. As for Genie's action on Carpet: since the whole nature of Aladdin's Second Wish to "save you from certain death" was already in a gray area in invocation, and Genie already had been on an extended job in full faith of Al's first wish, he considered surreptitiously blinking Carpet to Aladdin's location to be in the spirit of Al's second wish. Al's second wish was to be "saved from certain death"; death would have been certain and cold where he was sent.

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*** He was not dead. Many people who were brought back from the brink of death with modern medical science would have been declared dead by medical knowledge centuries or even decades before. Furthermore Aladdin started breathing again on his own once he had air to breathe again; Genie was begging him to start breathing again and then Aladdin hacked up lungwater onto a dually disgusted and relieved Genie. As for Genie's action on Carpet: since the whole nature of Aladdin's Second Wish to "save you from certain death" doom" was already in a gray area in invocation, and Genie already had been on an extended job in full faith of Al's first wish, he considered surreptitiously blinking Carpet to Aladdin's location to be in the spirit of Al's second wish. Al's second wish was to be "saved from certain death"; doom"; death would have been certain and cold where he was sent.



** Genie actually used the wiggle room from the second wish in order to send Carpet to save Aladdin. The specific wording of the wish was "to be saved from certain doom." Not from any one specific case of certain doom, just certain doom. Being banished to one of the poles of the earth would definitely spell certain doom.

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** Genie actually used the wiggle room from the second wish in order to send Carpet to save Aladdin. The specific wording of the wish was "to be saved from certain doom." doom". Not from any one specific case of certain doom, just certain doom. Being banished to one of the poles of the earth would definitely spell certain doom.



** Because he knew of Aladdin's want to woo Princess Jasmine, and then suddenly this "Prince Ali Ababwa" shows up with the hype turned up to eleven right after that whole incident at the Cave of Wonders. Jasmine figured it out because of prior knowledge too.

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** Because he knew of Aladdin's want desire to woo Princess Jasmine, and then suddenly this "Prince Ali Ababwa" shows up with the hype turned up to eleven right after that whole incident at the Cave of Wonders. Jasmine figured it out because of prior knowledge too.



** Genie explains that his glamour magic is just "an Illusion" and will only allow people to see what they want to see. Genie's rules of not being able to make anyone fall in love with you can be extended to mean "I cannot change someone's free will", and that includes forcing someone to believe you are someone or something you're not. Genies transformation doesn't change what you actually look like, instead only giving you enough external accessories to pass when it comes to cursory inspection/being glanced at for a second or two by people that don't know who you are. Jafar can break this immediately because he is an accomplished sorcerer but most importantly knows what Aladdin looks like. Jasmine took longer, but still got through because the Magic is paper thin, and all it took was a closer look at his face from up close and some trapped questions for her to recognise him. Someone that doesn't know Aladdin at all would likely be totally unable to break the "Prince Ali" disguise because "Prince Ali" is all they have ever known.

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** Genie explains that his glamour magic is just "an Illusion" illusion" and will only allow people to see what they want to see. Genie's rules of not being able to make anyone fall in love with you can be extended to mean "I cannot change someone's free will", and that includes forcing someone to believe you are someone or something you're not. Genies Genie's transformation doesn't change what you actually look like, instead only giving you enough external accessories to pass when it comes to cursory inspection/being glanced at for a second or two by people that don't know who you are. Jafar can break this immediately because he is an accomplished sorcerer but most importantly knows what Aladdin looks like. Jasmine took longer, but still got through because the Magic is paper thin, and all it took was a closer look at his face from up close and some trapped questions for her to recognise him. Someone that doesn't know Aladdin at all would likely be totally unable to break the "Prince Ali" disguise because "Prince Ali" is all they have ever known.



** The Genie says that the disguise magic is purely visual -- "people see what they're told to see." (Or some such.) Presumably, the way it worked was that you wouldn't recognize Aladdin just by looking at him. But Jasmine saw through it because Ali said something Aladdin once said, while we don't have proof that Jafar truly saw through the disguise at all; instead he used context clues (the carpet, the lack of Ababwa on his maps, and Ali surviving the assassination attempt) to piece his identity together, and didn't see Aladdin as anything but a prince before then.

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** The Genie says that the disguise magic is purely visual -- "people see what they're told to see." see". (Or some such.) Presumably, the way it worked was that you wouldn't recognize Aladdin just by looking at him. But Jasmine saw through it because Ali said something Aladdin once said, while we don't have proof that Jafar truly saw through the disguise at all; instead he used context clues (the carpet, the lack of Ababwa on his maps, and Ali surviving the assassination attempt) to piece his identity together, and didn't see Aladdin as anything but a prince before then.



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* If there's a real-life analogy, I don't know of any ruling dynasty in that part of the world that had a monopoly for a whole millenia. Perhaps, Constantinople? Besides, if it was an Islamic-based society. The Abbasid Caliphate which this is based off lasted 750-1258
** It’s a movie set in a fictional place it doesn’t have to gel with real history.

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* If there's a real-life analogy, I don't know of any ruling dynasty in that part of the world that had a monopoly for a whole millenia. Perhaps, Constantinople? Besides, if it was an Islamic-based society. The Abbasid Caliphate which this is based off on lasted 750-1258
from 750 to 1258.
** It’s a movie set in a fictional place it doesn’t have to gel gell with real history.



* In this version, the rule for the Cave of Wonders has been changed from "touch nothing but the lamp", to "take nothing but the lamp". This might be because it's impossible to get to the lamp without treading through all the coins and jewels (Which Aladdin and Abu DO in fact), but it does raise a few extra questions. The cave collapses after Abu picks up a gem. Picking something up doesn't mean you're actually "taking" it. Have you ever picked up a DVD or toy at a retail store only to look at it and put it back afterwards? If Abu intended to do the same (Kleptomaniac monkey, so not likely), would the cave have still collapsed? If so, the more strict "touch nothing but the lamp" rule from the animated version seems more legit.

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* In this version, the rule for the Cave of Wonders has been changed from "touch nothing but the lamp", to "take nothing but the lamp". This might be because it's impossible to get to the lamp without treading through all the coins and jewels (Which Aladdin and Abu DO in fact), but it does raise a few extra questions. The cave collapses after Abu picks up a gem. Picking something up doesn't mean you're actually "taking" it. Have you ever picked up a DVD or toy at a retail store only to look at it and put it back afterwards? If Abu intended to do the same (Kleptomaniac (kleptomaniac monkey, so not likely), would the cave have still collapsed? If so, the more strict "touch nothing but the lamp" rule from the animated version seems more legit.



*** Another principle however is that 20 years ago, I visited Yosemite National Park California. We saw these huge Sequoia pine cones . We were allowed to pick up and hold these pine cones as long as we put them back afterwards. Other than that being a more difficult rule to explain, I don't see why the cave wouldn't allow THAT.

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*** Another principle however is that 20 years ago, I visited Yosemite National Park California. We saw these huge Sequoia pine cones .cones. We were allowed to pick up and hold these pine cones as long as we put them back afterwards. Other than that being a more difficult rule to explain, I don't see why the cave wouldn't allow THAT.



** The sultan does admit that they're "running out of kingdoms," so it's easy to infer that Anders was far from his first choice. And I think people tend to give Anders himself a bit too much flak -- the guy is definitely slow on the uptake, but he's not completely brainless or incompetent, or that bad of a person. As Dalia says, you could find a great number of princes worse than him to marry Jasmine off to.

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** The sultan Sultan does admit that they're "running out of kingdoms," kingdoms", so it's easy to infer that Anders was far from his first choice. And I think people tend to give Anders himself a bit too much flak -- the guy is definitely slow on the uptake, but he's not completely brainless or incompetent, or that bad of a person. As Dalia says, you could find a great number of princes worse than him to marry Jasmine off to.



** Having just rewatched the movie, when Genie is giving his explanation spiel in the beginning, he outright says that he, as a genie, is the most powerful being in the universe. Therefore, if someone asks to be "the most powerful in the universe," they'd have to be a genie.

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** Having just rewatched the movie, when Genie is giving his explanation spiel in the beginning, he outright says that he, as a genie, is the most powerful being in the universe. Therefore, if someone asks to be "the most powerful in the universe," universe", they'd have to be a genie.



*** Oh...I see. Thanks for pointing that out. I swear, it was a detail that I seemed to remember subconsciously, but the way his imprisonment factored into his motivation didn't occur to me until you explained it.

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*** Oh... I see. Thanks for pointing that out. I swear, it was a detail that I seemed to remember subconsciously, but the way his imprisonment factored into his motivation didn't occur to me until you explained it.



** Genie DID send Jafars lamp back to the Cave of Wonders, where only a Diamond in the Rough could get it. Unfortunately, Iago burrowed out of the cave in the sequel. Maybe Iago's status as neither genie nor diamond in the rough made the cave reject Jafars lamp somehow, so the lamp just got stuck in the sand.

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** Genie DID send Jafars Jafar's lamp back to the Cave of Wonders, where only a Diamond in the Rough could get it. Unfortunately, Iago burrowed out of the cave in the sequel. Maybe Iago's status as neither genie nor diamond in the rough made the cave reject Jafars Jafar's lamp somehow, so the lamp just got stuck in the sand.
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** He also has the background of a thief who served prison time before, albeit in Shirabad, in this version.
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** Jafar in the cartoon knew of secret passages to get in as the old man and Aladdin out without notice. This version could easily know how to escape from the prison without notice and all he would need is a few hours to find Aladdin and take the lamp at an opportune moment.
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** Thanks to all of Genie's hard work, at the end Alladin marries Jasmine and becomes her prince-consort. Sounds like a wish granted if you ask me!

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** Thanks to all of Genie's hard work, at the end Alladin Aladdin marries Jasmine and becomes her prince-consort. Sounds like a wish granted if you ask me!


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* They made a big deal of Jafar being imprisoned by the guards when he was trying to rule as the Sultan. But the next scene we see of him, he's out of prison and stealing the lamp back from Aladdin. At that point in the story, he didn't have any powers since he didn't have his staff anymore, so how did he get out of jail? It would've made sense if he had Iago grab the lamp and bring it to him to wish himself out of jail, but nope.
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** Beyond the above, it serves as a story tool for the two to bond more. It's not that the song is particularly unique, just that she happens to strum a few chords and he wistfully remarks that his mother used to sing it to him.
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** Thanks to all of Genie's hard work, at the end Alladin marries Jasmine and becomes her prince-consort. Sounds like a wish granted if you ask me!
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** We can see at the end that there appear to be some guards who are more loyal to Jafar than to Hakkim, since they aren't in the dungeon.


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** I'd say she's still around for the same reason the guards are still around. Jafar wants to be a ruler and a ruler has servants.
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** I think the problem is that Jafar was probably already aware of the duplicitious nature of genies. His first two wishes are fairly concise. There was still gray area as mentioned above. He wished to be sultan but that didn't automatically make people undyingly loyal to him. He wished to become the most powerful sorcerer there is, so Genie made him just that, but that just means he has to be marginally more powerful than the next most powerful sorcerer there is. Which, apparently from what we see, is pretty powerful. It isn't until the third wish, when Jafar's having his VillainousBreakdown that he doesn't think about what he's saying and Genie's really able to hit him with the rules lawyering.
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** To give a more cynical answer, ViewersAreMorons may have been in effect during writing.

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** To give a more cynical answer, ViewersAreMorons may have been in effect during writing. They referred to the Sultan's wife as a Queen even though Sultana also would have applied.
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** To give a more cynical answer, [[ViewersAreMorons]] may have been in effect during writing.

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