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* As I took a peek at the new Pokémon (Gen V), I rejoiced as I saw there was an anteater/ant duo! But then I noticed the anteater was a Fire type, and the ant was Bug/Steel, which meant the anteater clearly had the upper hand, a very odd thing for a rivalry. Until I realized [[CarnivoreConfusion it wasn't supposed to be a rivalry after all]]. -Tropers/{{Pro-Mole}}

* I an still using Serperior, Simipour, and Victini after obtaining 7 badges. Then I realize: ''this is why the Snivy line has such a bad moveset!'' You get your starter at the beginning of the game, then shortly after get the elemental monkey with a type weak to your starter, then by the time you are ready to get your third badge, you can get Victini. If you do not get Snivy, you end up with two good Fire-types (Tepig for those who choose it and Pansear if you choose Oshawott). But if you have Snivy, then you have a good Fire, Water, and Grass Pokémon. To keep things a bit more fair, they made it weaker. - {{Stinkoman87}}
** Except Victini is an event-only Pokémon. -Mogotoo.

* All official media has red-striped Basculin and blue-striped Basculin listed separately, even though they are the same species and are functionally identical. It wasn't until catching one and reading the Black version Pokédex entry — which states that they are very hostile in general and that the red and blue ones start fighting with one another instantly — that this troper realized that, this generation being based on America rather than Japan, they're a subtle reference to the Bloods and the Crips. -Tropers/SpiriTsunami

** Reminds me of cpmc1's comment on [=Rykard3=]'s analysis of Scrafty, for Black[=/=]White when it first came out (and still only known as Zuruzukin). Which happened to be my comment...

* At first glance, the Pokémon Trubbish and Garbodor seem to show that the developers have run out of ideas and/or motivation to be creative. However, there's a reason they haven't been in previous generations. While previous regions were based on areas in Japan, Unova is based on New York and the U.S. east coast. Trubbish and Garbodor are actually a reference to the massive landfills and garbage problems that America has. - PAK215

* I've heard that some people really dislike Klink, because it's a strange design. But think about this: Unova is a very technologically advanced region, compared to others, right? Couldn't it be that they reverse-engineered this from the Pokémon? -Beyondnor-
** And why exactly does Klink's evolutionary line have the least drastic changes with each stage? Consider this: Prof. Juniper stated that Klink appeared in Unova only a hundred years prior to the events in the game. Since Klink naturally existed for only a short period of time, it didn't have the time to make the drastic changes that, say, the Bagon line has made. And note that I said "naturally" for Klink, since the Porygon line (which has made drastic changes in each of its stages of evolution) was created digitally. -KingdomXathers-

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* Let's take a look at Victini. Because of the V on its head it kinda does look like, well, [[Franchise/MegaMan that one robot with an annoying stage.]] Let's take a closer look. It has 100 base speed, and also learns 'Quick' Attack and [[ThatOneLevel Hyper Beam]]. Gen. 6 made it even better, introducing Inverse Battles. Now Victini can be weak to 'Flash' Cannon, Celebi's STAB moves and Excadrill's second typing.
* Victini's signature move is called V-create, and is obviously referring to both its name, and its theme of "victory". However, the name is a little awkward, why not just call the move "victory", or "victorious flames", or something like that. However, the "V" in the little has a double meaning: It's also referring to GENERATION V (5), the generation that Victini is the first pokemon in.

* All official media has red-striped Basculin and blue-striped Basculin listed separately, even though they are the same species and are functionally identical. It wasn't until catching one and reading the Black version Pokédex entry--which states that they are very hostile in general and that the red and blue ones start fighting with one another instantly--that this troper realized that, this generation being based on America rather than Japan, they're a subtle reference to the Bloods and the Crips. -Tropers/SpiriTsunami

** Reminds me of cpmc1's comment on Rykard3's analysis of Scrafty, for Black/ White when it first came out (and still only known as Zuruzukin). Which happened to be my comment...

* The reason why the Pokedex entries for Yamask and Cofagrigus and other such Pokemon are considerably [[DarkerAndEdgier darker]] this time around could be because Hilbert/Hilda are older than the previous protagonists and are therefore accustomed to more mature concepts. After all, it is the player character who fills out the Pokedex entries!
** Except the theory that the player character is the one writing the entries, though amusing, has way more logic holes than what should be acceptable for canon. The fact that every generation has similar Pokedex entries by itself should be enough to clue you in that they can't all be coincidentally made up by unaware people. The anime portrayal of the dex is most likely accurate.

*** Sludge is a toxic byproduct of factories that cannot be recycled. Garbage, however, can, for the most part, be recycled. Japan has strict recycling laws while America produces massive amounts of garbage. Also, Japan uses nuclear power. Lots of toxic sludge there.

** Black and White is also basically a big reference to the first games. About 150 Pokémon, none from other regions. So, there are some repeating themes. Like the pollution (Grimer and Muk) Pokémon and the trash Pokémon. There's also the new Electric / Flying- and pure Flying-type Pokémon and Pikachu.
*** There are no pure Flying types in Gen 1. In fact, the only pure Flying type in all of Pokemon is Tornadus. Do you mean Normal/Flying type?
** Here's what I think it is. In the first generation, we had the poison-type Pokémon Grimer, Muk, Koffing, and Weezing. Those two families represent toxic sludge and poison gas, or rather, pollution in two states of matter, liquid and gas. Now that we have Trubbish and Garbodor, the trio is complete with the Solid Waste (ie, garbage) Pokémon.

* Eelektross is stated to live in the water, even though it's a pure Electric type incapable of learning any offensive Water moves. Many fans have expressed confusion about this, but think about it -- Water is weak to Electric, meaning Eelektross has a type advantage when it hunts.
* Tropers/TommyX: Elgyem's Pokedex entry says it first appeared in the desert, so why does it appear in a tower further north? Elgyem is Psychic, and there are two Dark types native to the area, as well as a couple Bug types and Ghost types. So it left the desert and went to live in the Celestial Tower. Why it's living with another Ghost type, though, I can't figure out.

*** Given how their secondary type is Ground, which is super effective against Fire ''and'' Electric...

** Its Pokédex entries somewhat confirm this -- Vullaby's protective covering is made of bones gathered by Mandibuzz, which it discards upon evolution. Mandibuzz is based on vultures. Vultures are scavengers. Of course, when tied with the above theory, it would imply that Mandibuzz feed on human corpses and steal their bones...
** [[http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/989552-pokemon-black-version/59950941 Word of God]] says that those are Pokémon's bones. But together with the above "Humans are Pokémon"-Theory, this doesn't contradict with your idea.
* The reason Mandibuzz and Vullaby decorate themselves with bones isn't just because they happen to have a macabre fashion sense, but also as a readily available food source. Looking at it in a rational perspective, there is no reason why an animal would run around wearing bones for clothes. They don't offer much protection against weather and for a flying-type Pokémon they'll just weigh them down while in the air. Additionally, Mandibuzz and Vullaby don't have the kind of limbs or digits that would allow them to wield them like weapons like Cubone and Marowak. Furthermore, since the Mandibuzz is listed as an all-female species with no true male counterparts, the possibility that the bird Pokémon use the bones to attract mates is also out of the question. However, while the idea of an animal eating and digesting something so hard and indigestible may seem bizarre, in comes the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bearded_Vulture Lammergeier]], a species of old world vulture whose diet consists mainly of bones. In fact, the bearded vulture is one of the few animals on the planet able to subsist on a diet that is 90% bone. That means that whenever the Mandibuzz and Vullaby are hungry, they fly in the air, take the bones adorning their bodies, and drop them off a steep cliff so they can break them open so they are easier to digest.
* Some further brilliance regarding Vullaby and Mandibuzz: [[AlwaysChaoticEvil Dark-types]]? Check. [[FeatheredFiend Vultures]]? Check. [[OneGenderRace All-female]]? Check. Vullaby and Mandibuzz are basically supposed to be [[HarpingOnAboutHarpies harpies]].

* Deino and Zweilous have the "Hustle" ability, raising their attack, but lowering their accuracy. At first I thought this was just to make it harder to get Hydreigon, but then I realized, Deino and Zweilous are blind! Of course they have a hard time landing hits, they don't get eyes until their final stage!

** Except drives don't change his type. In at least BW (because we don't know what they prepared for sequels...), he is always Bug/Steel. Only Techno Blast changes type, and ironically that signature move is inferior in Fire-, Electric-, and Ice-types as the only Water-type move Genesect can get is Hidden Power. Thunderbolt, Flamethrower, and Ice Beam -- they all have more PP and power than Techno Blast, plus they have additional effects. [[labelnote:*]]This is only true in Generation V. As of Generation VI, Techno Blast is stronger than Thunderbolt, Flamethrower, and Ice Beam. Apparently Game Freak realized that they'd accidentally made Genesect's signature move nearly useless and fixed it.[[/labelnote]] Without a Drive it's Normal-type, Genesect's best Normal-type move aside from Selfdestruct, Explosion, Hyper Beam, and Giga Impact, and those all have drawbacks.
* Why can Elgyem and Beheeyem learn Steel Wing if they are neither Steel or Flying types? Steel Wing is [=TM51=]. Elgyem and Beheeyem are based on aliens. And where do people suspect that the US government is hiding and experimenting on aliens? Area '''51'''.

*** With ''other'' species of Pokemon. [[GRatedSex G-rated]] [[{{Necromantic}} necro]][[BestialityIsDepraved zoophillia]] anyone?!

* The Black version Pokédex states that Cofagrigus's favorite food is gold nuggets; the White version Pokédex states that its body made of pure gold. Who's to say that it hasn't tried to eat its own kind... or itself?

*** [[labelnote:RE side note]] As a very simple explanation, carbon-based simply means that we're held together primarily by interactions of carbon-loaded molecules, not that we're made of "raw carbon" or anything like that. Same goes for (as far as I'm aware) every other living or once-living thing on this planet.[[/labelnote]]

* Speaking of Yamask and Cofagrigus... Yamasks were originally humans that got mummified, keeping their human faces as a masks. They evolve into Cofagrigi, Pokémon that swallow humans whole and turn them into mummies, probably more Yamasks. This could very well be their natural way of multiplying...
** Your Yamask/Cofagrigus can breed with other Ghost type Pokemon. [[BestialityIsDepraved Imagine what it's thinking...]]
** You know the already sketchy ethics with Pokébattles. Using [[WasOnceAMan Yamask]] in battle takes those UnfortunateImplications, and ''multiplies it.''

* The entire Solosis line can learn Explosion by TM. Those Pokemon are based on developing embryos. [[NightmareFuel You're basically teaching your Pokemon to abort itself.]] [[WhatTheHellPlayer Nice job, kid.]]

* Deino starts off with one head, then evolves into Zweilous, who has two heads that hate each other. Zweilous evolves into Hydreigon -- who only has ''one'' brain and two brainless heads for hands.

** FridgeHorror returns -- judging by their behaviour, one may end up [[TooDumbToLive killing the other.]] Leaving a single brain. Would it be stunted, or evolve? Ghetsis [[FridgeHorror has]] [[NightmareFuel a]] [[TheComputerIsACheatingBastard Lv 54]] [[OmnicidalManiac Hydreigon.]]
** What if Hydreigon's main head is a new one? That wouldn't require one of Zweilous's heads to kill the other... But on the other hand, it would mean that the two [[BuffySpeak hand-heads]] are Zweilous's heads, so [[BodyHorror it loses]] ''both'' its old brains.
*** Unless perhaps the reason it only has one brain when it evolves is because when Deino evolves into Zweilous, its brain's two hemispheres are split between the two heads, and evolving into Hydreigon helps them combine back into one. The reason it takes so long to evolve is because each half of a brain focus on different things, and therefore the two heads struggle to evolve because they don't think the same way.
* So, what exactly is Deino's evolutionary line like? It has the second-longest evolutionary cycle from egg hatch to first evolution (beaten only by Larvesta), but what is almost definitely the shortest jump between first and second evolution in all psuedo-legendary Pokemon, at 14 levels. Well... Deino ''did'' kind of grow a second head. That has to take a while. As to how Zwelious got it so easy? Practice, higher level, and those heads did half the work in losing sentience by arguing.

** Um, Sandile/Krokorok/Krookodile are actually based off of the crocodiles in general (In particular the Spectatled Caiman). They feed on far more than just insects. Plus, eating a Bug-Type Pokémon as food and battling it in a trainer-based battle are two completely different things.

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*** That is available during the first couple of months that the game is out; that's when the bulk of the games were sold.

** Black and White is also basically a big reference to the first games. About 150 Pokémon, none from other regions. So, there are some repeating themes. Like the pollution (Grimer and Muk) Pokémon and the trash Pokémon. Theres also the new Electric / Flying- and pure Flying-type Pokémon and Pikachu.

* The Vanillite line is one of the most complained about by fans because it's just "sentient ice cream", but what if in the Pokemon universe ice cream cones were actually inspired by the Vanillite line?

* Eelektross is stated to live in the water, even though it's a pure Electric type incapable of learning any offensive Water moves. Many fans have expressed confusion about this, but think about it--Water is weak to Electric, meaning Eelektross has a type advantage when it hunts.

* The reason Mandibuzz and Vullapy decorate themselves with bones isn't just because they happen to have a macabre fashion sense, but also as a readily available food source. Looking at it in a rational perspective, there is no reason why an animal would run around wearing bones for clothes. They don't offer much protection against weather and for a flying-type pokemon they'll just weigh them down while in the air. Additionally, Mandibuzz and Vullapy don't have the kind of limbs or digits that would allow them to wield them like weapons like Cubone and Marowak. Furthermore, since the Mandibuzz is listed as an all-female species with no true male counterparts, the possibility that the bird pokemon use the bones to attract mates is also out of the question. However, while the idea of an animal eating and digesting something so hard and indigestible may seem bizarre, in comes the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bearded_Vulture Lammergeier]], a species of old world vulture whose diet consists mainly of bones. In fact, the bearded vulture is one of the few animals on the planet able to subsist on a diet that is 90% bone. That means that whenever the mandibuzz and vullapy are hungry, they fly in the air, take the bones adorning their bodies and drop them off a steep cliff so they can break them open so they are easier to digest.

* It ties in with FridgeHorror, but Zwelious has two brains. Hydreigon has three heads, but one brain. The fact it takes the longest of any Pokemon to evolve makes sense; the heads don't want to die/be merged!

* It just occurred to me: according to Bulbapedia, Genesect is an abandoned Team Plasma experiment. It uses drives to change its type. Arceus uses plates for the same purpose. Team Plasma was trying to create the god and creator of Pokemon in their own image!
** Except drives don't change his type. In at least BW (because we don't know what they prepared for sequels...), he is always Bug/Steel. Only Techno Blast changes type, and ironically that signature move is inferior in Fire-, Electric-, and Ice-types as the only Water-type move Genesect can get is Hidden Power. Thunderbolt, Flamethrower, and Ice Beam - they all have more PP and power than Techno Blast, plus they have additional effects. [[labelnote:*]]This is only true in Generation V. As of Generation VI, Techno Blast is stronger than Thunderbolt, Flamethrower, and Ice Beam. Apparently Game Freak realized that they'd accidentally made Genesect's signature move nearly useless and fixed it.[[/labelnote]] Without a Drive it's Normal-type, and aside from Selfdestruct, Explosion, Hyper Beam, and Giga Impact, and they all have drawbacks.

** You know the already sketchy ethics with Pokebattles. Using [[WasOnceAMan Yamask]] in battle takes those UnfortunateImplications, and ''multiplies it.''

*** Unless perhaps the reason it only has one brain when it evolves is because when Deino evolves into Zweilous, it's brain's two hemispheres are split between the two heads, and evolving into Hydreigon helps them combine back into one. The reason it takes so long to evolve is because each half of a brain focus on different things, and therefore the two heads struggle to evolve because they don't think the same way.
* So, what exactly is Deino's evolutionary line like? It has the second longest evolutionary cycle from egg hatch to first evolution (beaten only by Larvesta), but what is almost definitely the shortest jump between first and second evolution in all psuedo-legendary Pokemon, at 14 levels. Well... Deino ''did'' kind of grow a second head. That has to take a while. As to how Zwelious got it so easy? Practice, higher level, and those heads did half the work in losing sentience by arguing.

** Um, Sandile/Krokorok/Krookodile are actually based off of the crocodiles in general (In particular the Spectatled Caiman). They feed on far more than just insects. Plus, eating a Bug-Type Pokemon as food and battling it in a trainer-based battle are two completely different things.
** The Japanese name of Sandile refers to crocodile but the two evolutions refer to gavials, as do their head shapes. Being weak to bug moves does not matter much though. They are ambush predators.

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* Similar to how Gen 1 hid Spanish in the Legendary Birds' names, there is German in one of the Gen 5 pseudo-legendary evolutuion families: dEINo, ZWEIlous, and hyDREIgon. Again, one, two, three.

** What if Hydreigon's main head is a new one? That wouldn't require one of Zweilous's heads to kill the other... But on the other hand, it would mean that the two [[BuffySpeak hand-heads]] are Zweilous's heads, so [[BodyHorror it loses]] ''both'' its old brains.

* Deino and Zweilous have the "Hustle" ability, raising their attack, but lowering their accuracy. At first I thought this was just to make it harder to get Hydreigon, but then I realized, Deino and Zweilous are blind! Of course they have a hard time landing hits, they don't get eyes until their final stage!