History Fridge / MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS2E11FamilyAppreciationDay

* Granny Smith thinking Applebloom and Diamond Tiara are friends makes sense when you remember that their families have known each other for generations, with the Apples selling to Filthy Rich and his family for a long time.

* Is Granny Smith making up some of her story? Not necessarily, as in [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS1E11WinterWrapUp Winter Wrap Up]] Twilight said that [[ExactWords '''they''']]'ve never used magic to clean up winter, meaning Earth Ponies, not Ponyville. But since it was ''founded'' by Earth Ponies, they keep this tradition in towns they found.

* Is Granny Smith making up some of her story? Not necessarily, as in [[MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS1E11WinterWrapUp Winter Wrap Up]] Twilight said that [[ExactWords '''they''']]'ve never used magic to clean up winter, meaning Earth Ponies, not Ponyville. But since it was ''founded'' by Earth Ponies, they keep this tradition in towns they found.

* Is Granny Smith making up some of her story? Not necessarily, as in [[MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS1E11WinterWrapUp Winter Wrap Up]] Twilight said that [[ExactWords '''they''']]'ve never used magic to clean up winter, meaning Earth Ponies, not Ponyville. But since it was ''founded'' by Earth Ponies, they keep this tradition in towns they found.

Is Granny Smith making up some of her story? Not necessarily, as in [[MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS1E11WinterWrapUp Winter Wrap Up]] Twilight said that [[ExactWords '''they''']]'ve never used magic to clean up winter, meaning Earth Ponies, not Ponyville. But since it was ''founded'' by Earth Ponies, they keep this tradition in towns they found.

!FridgeBrilliance
* Applejack's outburst at Twilight for using magic in Winter Wrap Up seems more justified in light of the revelation that ''her'' family of Earth ponies were the founders of Ponyville.
* Also wasn't there a prank where back in [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS1E5GriffonTheBrushOff "Griffon the Brush Off"]] where Pinkie and Rainbow painted regular apples rainbow-colored? Not much of a prank...unless they were supposed to look like Zap Apples!
** The events of [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS1E5GriffonTheBrushOff "Griffon the Brush Off"]] must have took place near that year's Zap Apple's harvest .... as Applejack laughed at Rainbow Dash and Pinkie Pie's painted apple joke.
* Silver Spoon is the first pony to start clapping for Granny Smith. [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Looks like there's a reason for the heart in the handle of her Cutie Mark.]]

* Silver Spoon is the first pony to start clapping for Granny Smith. [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Looks like there's a reason for the heart in the handle of her Cutie Mark.]]
!FridgeLogic
* Just what did they call Granny Smith as a filly? It wouldn't make sense to call her "Granny" as a kid but it would ruin the pun if they didn't.
** Franny Smith?
*** Granny Smith is a type of apple. Just like ''Apple''jack ''Apple''bloom and Big ''Macintosh'', it's following a naming pattern in the family.
*** She's a grandmother so it would make sense that she was married at one point and changed her last name. Maybe she had another apple-related name first but there was a Smith family that she married into and it's just a coincidence that she ended up with an apple related pun-name again when she became a grandmother. Alternately it's entirely possible that in this universe, [[FridgeBrilliance Granny Smith apples were named after HER]]. She seems to be an expert in the field and has been around for quite some time.
**** In her flashback, Granny Smith refers to her family as the Smith Family, not the Apple Family. It seems more likely that the apple pun was intentional on her part and why it started in the first place. [[MagicAIsMagicA Could be another part of the Zap Apple ritual.]]
* In Winter Wrap Up, Twilight says that the tradition has been in place for (if I recall correctly) something like centuries. Since it was started after the founding of Ponyville, which we now know Granny Smith was a part of, this suggests that ponies have a ridiculously long lifespan (contradicting [[WordOfGod Lauren Faust's statement]] that they have lifespans comparable to real horses). Since we don't see a whole lot of younger ponies (the only school in Ponyville is a small one-house affair), perhaps this is typical; they live long and rarely reproduce.
** If I'm not mistaken Lauren Faust's statement was more of a ShrugOfGod to explaine thier AdultChild behavoir at times.
*** It's more likely that Winter Wrap Up predates Ponyville's founding and that it is celebrated across Equestria as opposed to just Ponyville.
*** Twilight's exact words: "Ponyville was started by Earth Ponies so for hundreds of years they've never used magic to clean up winter."
*** She might just be overestimating the time that has passed since Ponyville's founding.
*** Consider how many Earth Ponies were in line for filly Granny to buy the Zap Apple Jam. If we consider how the American settler expansion went, small towns would be developed ''after'' families settled in around areas. The analogy to Equestria: for hundreds of years, Earth Ponies all had their own farms to tend the land and celebrating Winter Wrap Up as part of their farming ritual without magical help; Celestia gave the Apples their own plot of land; as a result of the Zap Apples and Stinkin' Rich's foresight, the area because a town, still celebrating WWU and as Unicorns and Pegasi moved into the area, they too participated without performing any of their own special magic to keep the same tradition alive but expanding to the weather, snow-clearing and animal duties that we see. In other words, Earth Ponies did found both WWU and Ponyville but WWU was already in place before Ponyville was founded.
*** But in Winter Wrap Up, Spike asks why the ponies of Ponyville don't just change the seasons with magic like they do in Canterlot.
*** My impression is that Winter Wrap Up is only done without magic in Ponyville (and possibly other Earth Pony settlements). Unicorn-dominated settlements like Canterlot simply perform WWU using magic.
*** Another consideration: Recall the fallout of Hearth's Warming Eve where (hopefully) each species of pony learned not to gloat their special talents and resent the special talents of other species. Keeping this in mind, it can be easy to see WWU created where everyone would use more physical labor together to complete the task of changing seasons simply to avoid repeating the past.
** Doesn't it seem rather trollish of Celestia to give a family in such poverty a homestead next to one of the most dangerous regions in Equestria?
*** No; it's giving them a challenge. The Earth Ponies are the hardest workers and giving them the toughest place to live makes sense that way.
* If Pegasus ponies have been controlling the weather around Ponyville for years, how do the weather signs that come around Zap Apple season get through? Are the pegasus aware not to mess with magical weather?
** Given the magical nature of the trees and the fact that the trees came from the Everfree Forest (which has been stated to have its own naturally occurring weather), it's likely that the trees themselves are actually the source of the Zap Apple weather signs.
*** Actually, Pegasi can't mess with magical weather. Otherwise, the problem of the Windigos would have been solved in about five seconds.
* How, exactly, can the Apple family in Granny Smith's flashback starve? They're '''ponies''' living in the middle of a great big field '''of grass'''. The equines in this show have explicitly been referred to as hay-eaters, so obviously they can eat grass, too.

** If I'm not mistaken Lauren Faust's statement was more of a ShugOfGod to explaine thier AdultChild behavoir at times.

*** Actually, Pegasi can't mess with magical weather. Otherwise, the problem of the Windigos would have been solved in about five seconds.

* FridgeBrilliance: Applejack's outburst at Twilight for using magic in Winter Wrap Up seems more justified in light of the revelation that ''her'' family of Earth ponies were the founders of Ponyville.
** Also wasn't there a prank where back in [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS1E5GriffonTheBrushOff "Griffon the Brush Off"]] where Pinkie and Rainbow painted regular apples rainbow-colored? Not much of a prank...unless they were supposed to look like Zap Apples!
** Silver Spoon is the first pony to start clapping for Granny Smith. [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Looks like there's a reason for the heart in the handle of her Cutie Mark.]]
* FridgeLogic: Just what did they call Granny Smith as a filly? It wouldn't make sense to call her "Granny" as a kid but it would ruin the pun if they didn't.

** In Winter Wrap Up, Twilight says that the tradition has been in place for (if I recall correctly) something like centuries. Since it was started after the founding of Ponyville, which we now know Granny Smith was a part of, this suggests that ponies have a ridiculously long lifespan (contradicting [[WordOfGod Lauren Faust's statement]] that they have lifespans comparable to real horses). Since we don't see a whole lot of younger ponies (the only school in Ponyville is a small one-house affair), perhaps this is typical; they live long and rarely reproduce.
*** If I'm not mistaken Lauren Faust's statement was more of a ShugOfGod to explaine thier AdultChild behavoir at times.
** It's more likely that Winter Wrap Up predates Ponyville's founding and that it is celebrated across Equestria as opposed to just Ponyville.

** If Pegasus ponies have been controlling the weather around Ponyville for years, how do the weather signs that come around Zap Apple season get through? Are the pegasus aware not to mess with magical weather?
*** Given the magical nature of the trees and the fact that the trees came from the Everfree Forest (which has been stated to have its own naturally occurring weather), it's likely that the trees themselves are actually the source of the Zap Apple weather signs.

*** Given the magical nature of the trees and the fact that the trees came from the Everfree Forest (which has been stated to have its own naturally occurring weather), it's likely that the trees themselves are actually the source of the Zap Apple weather signs.

*** Consider how many Earth Ponies were in line for filly Granny to buy the Zap Apple Jam. If we consider how the American settler expansion went, small towns would be developed ''after'' families settled in around areas. The analogy to Equestria: for hundreds of years, Earth Ponies all had their own farms to tend the land and celebrating Winter Wrap Up as part of their farming ritual without magical help; Celestia gave the Apples their own plot of land; as a result of the Zap Apples and Stinkin' Rich's foresight, the area because a town, still celebrating WWU and as unicorns and Pegasi moved into the area, they too participated without performing any of their own special magic to keep the same tradition alive but expanding to the weather, snow-clearing and animal duties that we see. In other words, Earth ponies did found both WWU and Ponyville but WWU was already in place before Ponyville was founded.

*** My impression is that Winter Wrap Up is only done without magic in Ponyville (and possibly other Earth pony settlements). Unicorn-dominated settlements like Canterlot simply perform WWU using magic.

*** No; it's giving them a challenge. The Earth ponies are the hardest workers and giving them the toughest place to live makes sense that way.