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ooh I should probably specify this is a remake-exclusive thing


* E. Gadd seems [[UnusuallyUninterestingSight none too shocked]] that the person making surprise contact with them is his own future self. But that makes sense if you remember this [[VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiPartnersInTime isn't the first time]] he's been the "past self" in time travel shenanigans.

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* E. Gadd seems [[UnusuallyUninterestingSight none too shocked]] that the person making surprise contact with them in the 3DS remake is his own future self. But that makes sense if you remember this [[VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiPartnersInTime isn't the first time]] he's been the "past self" in time travel shenanigans.
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* E. Gadd seems [[UnusuallyUninterstingSight none too shocked]] that the person making surprise contact with them is his own future self. But that makes sense if you remember this [[VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiPartnersInTime isn't the first time]] he's been the "past self" in time travel shenanigans.

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* E. Gadd seems [[UnusuallyUninterstingSight [[UnusuallyUninterestingSight none too shocked]] that the person making surprise contact with them is his own future self. But that makes sense if you remember this [[VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiPartnersInTime isn't the first time]] he's been the "past self" in time travel shenanigans.
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* E. Gadd seems [[UnusuallyUninterstingSight none too shocked]] that the person making surprise contact with them is his own future self. But that makes sense if you remember this [[VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiPartnersInTime isn't the first time]] he's been the "past self" in time travel shenanigans.
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** Not made any better when Madame Clairvoya herself is shocked by [[spoiler:Bowser actually being relevant at all in King Boo's scheme, since she points out that Bowser had been soundly defeated by Mario, and specifically theorizes that King Boo has ''[[BackFromTheDead revived]]'' Bowser. If Bowser was still alive after his defeat, then said choice of words wouldn't make much sense]]. This is made even more horrifying when this also presents hints that [[spoiler:Mario may have ''[[KilledOffForReal killed]]'' Bowser at some point in the past]]. Luigi is a dark game indeed.

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moving to headscratchers


* All the area 1 portrait ghosts plus Henry and Orville are members of the same family. That means something horrible must have happened to kill all five at the same time. It gets worse if you notice there is also an Uncle Grimley, Aunt Petunia and Nana who could also be related to this family.

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* During the blackout, you can enter the telephone room and receive phone calls from Toad and E. Gadd. How can the phones work without electricity?
** The same way a lightning bolt hitting the roof of the mansion and not an exposed power source can shut off electricity to the entire mansion and implicitly to E. Gadd's lab as well: [[MST3KMantra it's a video game.]]
** A lot of older phones didn't actually use electricity - they've been around as recently as the 2000s. I had one in my house growing up. I remember it being the only thing that still functioned during blackouts.
*** Correct. Older-style line phones are technically mechanical, not electronic, merely turning line noise into audible noise by passing electric signals through magnets. As long as the line is intact, they require no electricity.
** Similarly many land line phones actually run on a separate circuit system from main power which is why the older ones don't need to be plugged in to a wall outlet just a telephone jack. So generally speaking an older style land line, even up to the 1990's in some places like the continental United States, would still operate in a black out so long as phone lines remained intact.

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* All the area 1 portrait ghosts plus Henry and Orville are members of the same family. That means something horrible must have happened to kill all five at the same time. It gets worse if you notice there is also an Uncle Grimley, Aunt Petunia and Nana who could also be related to this family.

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* During the blackout, you can enter the telephone room and receive phone calls from Toad and E. Gadd. How can the phones work without electricity?
** The same way a lightning bolt hitting the roof of the mansion and not an exposed power source can shut off electricity to the entire mansion and implicitly to E. Gadd's lab as well: [[MST3KMantra it's a video game.]]
** A lot of older phones didn't actually use electricity - they've been around as recently as the 2000s. I had one in my house growing up. I remember it being the only thing that still functioned during blackouts.
*** Correct. Older-style line phones are technically mechanical, not electronic, merely turning line noise into audible noise by passing electric signals through magnets. As long as the line is intact, they require no electricity.
** Similarly many land line phones actually run on a separate circuit system from main power which is why the older ones don't need to be plugged in to a wall outlet just a telephone jack. So generally speaking an older style land line, even up to the 1990's in some places like the continental United States, would still operate in a black out so long as phone lines remained intact.
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* Music/{{Brentalfloss}} points out that it's weird that Mario is unable to escape the painting, considering that he could go in and out of paintings in ''VideoGame/SuperMario64''. This could simply be explained by assuming that the painting Mario was trapped in works differently from the paintings in ''64'', but even if it ''did'' work the same, there's another explanation. In ''64'', Mario can't exit a painting unless he gets a Star, or he dies. As far as we know, not only are there no Stars in there, but there is nothing that could kill Mario.



* You go around sucking up ghosts for a little old man who turns them into paintings. While some of the ghosts, like Bogmire, are simply monstrous constructs, many of the ghosts are the ghosts of people, as in people who ''died''. Think about that: not only are you trapping the restless souls of the formerly living against their will, you're also ''flattening their very souls into paintings''! In other words, [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation E. Gadd is a madman who uses]] ''[[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation human souls]]'' [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation as decorations for his underground lair]]. To top it all off, one of the ghosts is a ''one-year-old child.''
** Or you could turn it around. All those paintings are haunted. While you're looking at them, they're looking back.
** Then again, this one year-old child was born a ghost. Plus, E. Gadd may be senile, but he isn't evil: the ghosts in ''Dark Moon'' who work for him are well-behaved and kind as long as the Dark Moon is around, so if the portrait ghosts actually did behave likewise, they'd be free to roam around as well.



* So WordOfGod is that Chauncey was actually born a ghost, so he isn't a dead baby after all!...Or maybe not. Being born a ghost could mean that's he's the result of a miscarriage.
** Or stillbirth.
** Or perhaps Lydia died while pregnant, killing the unborn Chauncey as well.
** Or Lydia and Neville just had another baby after they died and became ghosts, so that baby also became a ghost. Granted, they don't seem to have much in terms of lower halves, but they might have found a way.

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* So WordOfGod is that Chauncey was actually born a ghost, so he isn't a dead baby after all!...Or maybe not. Being born a ghost could mean that's he's ghost; the result of a miscarriage.
** Or stillbirth.
** Or perhaps Lydia died while pregnant, killing the unborn Chauncey as well.
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immediate assumption is that Lydia and Neville just somehow had another baby after they died and became ghosts, so died, removing the inherent horror in a ghost baby. But then... Being born a ghost could also mean that baby also became a ghost. Granted, they don't seem to have much in terms he's the result of lower halves, but they might have found a way.miscarriage, a stillbirth, or the result of Lydia dying while she was pregnant.



* If Luigi sprays ghosts with an elemental attack, they just fade away to nothing. [[spoiler:Note that most of them are made with paint...'''[[HiddenVillain and then you realize]] [[OverlordJr who]] [[TheReveal uses paint.]]''']]
** [[spoiler:Vincent Van Gore, the guy who created them. Bowser's involvement is nothing more than being the basis for King Boo's mech/suit in the final battle, and a mention beyond that from Clairvoya. Bowser Jr. isn't even implied to be part of the game.]]
* So, the portrait ghosts. It was already mentioned by someone else, they are real people being trapped in paintings against there will,you are the one doing it,etc. But have you ever gone to the gallery and noticed how they do not move inside the paintings like how Mario does? They just stand still, forever. So for the ghosts,it is like they are in sleep paralysis nonstop,unable to move or speak. And for anyone who has experienced sleep paralysis, you know how scary that is for just a few seconds or minutes. Now imagine that, but 24/7.
* Music/{{Brentalfloss}} points out that it's weird that Mario is unable to escape the painting, considering that he could go in and out of paintings in ''VideoGame/SuperMario64''. This could simply be explained by assuming that the painting Mario was trapped in works differently from the paintings in ''64'', but even if it ''did'' work the same, there's another explanation. In ''64'', Mario can't exit a painting unless he gets a Star, or he dies. As far as we know, not only are there no Stars in there, but there is nothing that could kill Mario. In other words, [[AndIMustScream he really was trapped]].

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* If Luigi sprays ghosts with an elemental attack, they just fade away to nothing. [[spoiler:Note that most of them are made with paint...'''[[HiddenVillain and then you realize]] [[OverlordJr who]] [[TheReveal uses paint.]]''']]
** [[spoiler:Vincent Van Gore, the guy who created them. Bowser's involvement is nothing more than being the basis for King Boo's mech/suit in the final battle, and a mention beyond that from Clairvoya. Bowser Jr. isn't even implied to be part of the game.]]
* So, the portrait ghosts. It was already mentioned by someone else, Not only are they are real technically ''real'', albeit dead, people being trapped in paintings against there will,you their will (and not all of them are the one doing it,etc. But have even trying to hurt you,) but: Have you ever gone to the gallery and noticed how they do not don't move inside the paintings like how Mario does? does in his painting? [[AndIMustScream They just stand still, forever. So for the ghosts,it is like they are in sleep paralysis nonstop,unable to move or speak. And for anyone who has experienced sleep paralysis, you know how scary that is for just a few seconds or minutes. Now imagine that, but 24/7.
* Music/{{Brentalfloss}} points out that it's weird that Mario is unable to escape the painting, considering that he could go in and out of paintings in ''VideoGame/SuperMario64''. This could simply be explained by assuming that the painting Mario was trapped in works differently from the paintings in ''64'', but even if it ''did'' work the same, there's another explanation. In ''64'', Mario can't exit a painting unless he gets a Star, or he dies. As far as we know, not only are there no Stars in there, but there is nothing that could kill Mario. In other words, [[AndIMustScream he really was trapped]].
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* You learn from a diary entry in the study that one of the ghost twins is susceptible to cold. This is because planes weren't protected from the weather when they were first built by Orville and his brother.



** If you continue to read the diary, you'll realize that one of the twins is susceptible to cold. This is because planes weren't protected from the weather when they were first built by Orville and his brother.
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As you said, it's a bug, it's not fridge horror


* It gets worse. There's a bug in one part of the game that shows [[http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k92/Aska49/luigismansion0000.jpg Luigi's shadow on a wall]], floating... or rather, [[DrivenToSuicide hanging]] in the air. [[UnfortunateImplications Dear God...]]
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* All the area 1 portrait ghosts plus Henry and Orville are members of the same family. That means something horrible must have happened to kill all five at the same time. It gets worse if you notice there is also an Uncle Grimley, Aunt Petunia and Nana who could also be related to this family.
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...Now that I think about it, this entry is probably better suited for Fridge Horror.


* Music/{{Brentalfloss}} points out that it's weird that Mario is unable to escape the painting, considering that he could go in and out of paintings in ''VideoGame/SuperMario64''. This could simply be explained by assuming that the painting Mario was trapped in works differently from the paintings in ''64'', but even if it ''did'' work the same, there's another explanation. In ''64'', Mario can't exit a painting unless he gets a Star, or he dies. As far as we know, not only are there no Stars in there, but there is nothing that could kill Mario. In other words, [[AndIMustScream he really was trapped]].

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* Music/{{Brentalfloss}} points out that it's weird that Mario is unable to escape the painting, considering that he could go in and out of paintings in ''VideoGame/SuperMario64''. This could simply be explained by assuming that the painting Mario was trapped in works differently from the paintings in ''64'', but even if it ''did'' work the same, there's another explanation. In ''64'', Mario can't exit a painting unless he gets a Star, or he dies. As far as we know, not only are there no Stars in there, but there is nothing that could kill Mario. In other words, [[AndIMustScream he really was trapped]].




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* Music/{{Brentalfloss}} points out that it's weird that Mario is unable to escape the painting, considering that he could go in and out of paintings in ''VideoGame/SuperMario64''. This could simply be explained by assuming that the painting Mario was trapped in works differently from the paintings in ''64'', but even if it ''did'' work the same, there's another explanation. In ''64'', Mario can't exit a painting unless he gets a Star, or he dies. As far as we know, not only are there no Stars in there, but there is nothing that could kill Mario. In other words, [[AndIMustScream he really was trapped]].
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* Music/{{Brentalfloss}} points out that it's weird that Mario is unable to escape the painting, considering that he could go in and out of paintings in ''VideoGame/SuperMario64''. This could simply be explained by assuming that the painting Mario was trapped in works differently from the paintings in ''64'', but even if it ''did'' work the same, there's another explanation. In ''64'', Mario can't exit a painting unless he gets a Star, or he dies. As far as we know, not only are there no Stars in there, but there is nothing that could kill Mario. In other words, [[AndIMustScream he really was trapped]].



* ''[[VideoGame/LuigisMansion Luigi's Mansion]]''. You go around sucking up ghosts for a little old man who turns them into paintings. While some of the ghosts, like Bogmire, are simply monstrous constructs, many of the ghosts are the ghosts of people, as in people who ''died''. Think about that: not only are you trapping the restless souls of the formerly living against their will, you're also ''flattening their very souls into paintings''! In other words, [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation E. Gadd is a madman who uses]] ''[[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation human souls]]'' [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation as decorations for his underground lair]]. To top it all off, one of the ghosts is a ''one-year-old child.''

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* ''[[VideoGame/LuigisMansion Luigi's Mansion]]''. You go around sucking up ghosts for a little old man who turns them into paintings. While some of the ghosts, like Bogmire, are simply monstrous constructs, many of the ghosts are the ghosts of people, as in people who ''died''. Think about that: not only are you trapping the restless souls of the formerly living against their will, you're also ''flattening their very souls into paintings''! In other words, [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation E. Gadd is a madman who uses]] ''[[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation human souls]]'' [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation as decorations for his underground lair]]. To top it all off, one of the ghosts is a ''one-year-old child.''

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* Wondering why doesn't King Boo have his Jewel Crown in later games? Because Luigi sold it to buy his new mansion (even though the jewel is worth 1 COIN).
* Luigi doesn't get to the mansion until Mario's been captured. Player 1 lost a life, and now it's Player 2's turn.



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* Wondering why doesn't King Boo have his Jewel Crown in later games? Because Luigi sold it to buy his new mansion (even though the jewel is worth 1 COIN).
* Luigi doesn't get to the mansion until Mario's been captured. Player 1 lost a life, and now it's Player 2's turn.

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* Wondering why doesn't King Boo have his Jewel Crown in later games? Because Luigi sold it to buy his new mansion (even though the jewel is worth 1 COIN).
* Luigi doesn't get to the mansion until Mario's been captured. Player 1 lost a life, and now it's Player 2's turn.
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*** Correct. Older-style line phones are technically mechanical, not electronic, merely turning line noise into audible noise by passing electric signals through magnets. As long as the line is intact, they require no electricity.

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*** Correct. Older-style line phones are technically mechanical, not electronic, merely turning line noise into audible noise by passing electric signals through magnets. As long as the line is intact, they require no electricity.electricity.
** Similarly many land line phones actually run on a separate circuit system from main power which is why the older ones don't need to be plugged in to a wall outlet just a telephone jack. So generally speaking an older style land line, even up to the 1990's in some places like the continental United States, would still operate in a black out so long as phone lines remained intact.
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* Luigi doesn't get to the mansion until Mario's been captured. Player 1 lost a life, and now it's Player 2's turn.
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* So, the portrait ghosts. It was already mentioned by someone else, they are real people being trapped in paintings against there will,you are the one doing it,etc. But have you ever gone to the gallery and noticed how they do not move inside the paintings like how Mario does? They just stand still, forever. So for the ghosts,it is like they are in sleep paralysis nonstop,unable to move or speak. And for anyone who has experienced sleep paralysis, you know how scary that is for just a few seconds or minutes. Now imagine that, but 24/7.
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** A lot of older phones didn't actually use electricity - they've been around as recently as the 2000s. I had one in my house growing up. I remember it being the only thing that still functioned during blackouts.

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** A lot of older phones didn't actually use electricity - they've been around as recently as the 2000s. I had one in my house growing up. I remember it being the only thing that still functioned during blackouts.blackouts.
*** Correct. Older-style line phones are technically mechanical, not electronic, merely turning line noise into audible noise by passing electric signals through magnets. As long as the line is intact, they require no electricity.
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** The same way a lightning bolt hitting the roof of the mansion and not an exposed power source can shut off electricity to the entire mansion and implicitly to E. Gadd's lab as well: [[MST3KMantra it's a video game.]]

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** The same way a lightning bolt hitting the roof of the mansion and not an exposed power source can shut off electricity to the entire mansion and implicitly to E. Gadd's lab as well: [[MST3KMantra it's a video game.]]]]
** A lot of older phones didn't actually use electricity - they've been around as recently as the 2000s. I had one in my house growing up. I remember it being the only thing that still functioned during blackouts.

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** [[spoiler:Vincent Van Gore, the guy who created them. Bowser's involvement is nothing more than being the basis for King Boo's mech/suit in the final battle, and a mention beyond that from Clairvoya. Bowser Jr. isn't even implied to be part of the game.]]



* During the blackout, you can enter the telephone room and receive phone calls from Toad and E. Gadd. How can the phones work without electricity?

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* During the blackout, you can enter the telephone room and receive phone calls from Toad and E. Gadd. How can the phones work without electricity?electricity?
** The same way a lightning bolt hitting the roof of the mansion and not an exposed power source can shut off electricity to the entire mansion and implicitly to E. Gadd's lab as well: [[MST3KMantra it's a video game.]]
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** Or Lydia and Neville just had another baby after they died and became ghosts, so that baby also became a ghost. Granted, they don't seem to have much in terms of lower halves, but they might have found a way.
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* Wondering why doesn't King Boo have his Jewel Crown in later games? Because Luigi sold it to buy his new mansion (even though the jewel is worth 1 COIN).

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* Wondering why doesn't King Boo have his Jewel Crown in later games? Because Luigi sold it to buy his new mansion (even though the jewel is worth 1 COIN).COIN).

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* During the blackout, you can enter the telephone room and receive phone calls from Toad and E. Gadd. How can the phones work without electricity?
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** Yet somehow through all this traumatization, he took out an army of ghosts by himself.

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** [[CowardlyLion Yet somehow through all this traumatization, traumatization]], [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome he took out an army of ghosts by himself.himself]].
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* If Luigi sprays ghosts with an elemental attack, they just fade away to nothing. [[spoiler:Note that most of them are made with paint...'''[[HiddenVillain and then you realize who uses paint.]]''']]

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* If Luigi sprays ghosts with an elemental attack, they just fade away to nothing. [[spoiler:Note that most of them are made with paint...'''[[HiddenVillain and then you realize who realize]] [[OverlordJr who]] [[TheReveal uses paint.]]''']]
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* If Luigi sprays ghosts with an elemental attack, they just fade away to nothing. [[spoiler:Note that most of them are made with paint...'''[[HiddenVillain and then you realize who uses paint.]]''']]
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* ''[[VideoGame/LuigisMansion Luigi's Mansion]]''. You go around sucking up ghosts for a little old man who turns them into paintings. While some of the ghosts, like Bogmire, are simply monstrous constructs, many of the ghosts are the ghosts of people, as in people who ''died''. Think about that: not only are you trapping the restless souls of the formally living against their will, you're also ''flattening their very souls into paintings''! In other words, [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation E. Gadd is a madman who uses]] ''[[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation human souls]]'' [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation as decorations for his underground lair]]. To top it all off, one of the ghosts is a ''one-year-old child.''

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* ''[[VideoGame/LuigisMansion Luigi's Mansion]]''. You go around sucking up ghosts for a little old man who turns them into paintings. While some of the ghosts, like Bogmire, are simply monstrous constructs, many of the ghosts are the ghosts of people, as in people who ''died''. Think about that: not only are you trapping the restless souls of the formally formerly living against their will, you're also ''flattening their very souls into paintings''! In other words, [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation E. Gadd is a madman who uses]] ''[[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation human souls]]'' [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation as decorations for his underground lair]]. To top it all off, one of the ghosts is a ''one-year-old child.''
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** Or perhaps Lydia died while pregnant, killing the unborn Chauncey as well.
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** Or stillbirth.
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* Wondering why does King Boo doesn't have his Jewel Crown in later games? Because Luigi sold it to buy his new mansion (even though the jewel is worth 1 COIN).

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* Wondering why does King Boo doesn't King Boo have his Jewel Crown in later games? Because Luigi sold it to buy his new mansion (even though the jewel is worth 1 COIN).
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* It's believed by some that King Boo's [[spoiler:Bowser "mech"]] isn't a mech at all, but rather [[spoiler:Bowser's corpse, with the Koopa King having been killed by Mario in a previous game]].

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* To people who played ''VideoGame/PaperMario'', Luigi's cowardice seems weird. In that game, he was eager and adventurous. However, if you read his diary at one point, you can see he was already scared of ghosts. And the first game with Luigi's fearful personality? ''Luigi's Mansion'', where he has to travel through a haunted mansion. Luigi is ''traumatized''. [[ThereAreNoTherapists And nobody seems to be helping him]].

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* To people who played ''VideoGame/PaperMario'', Luigi's cowardice seems weird. In that game, he was eager and adventurous. However, if you read his diary at one point, you can see he was already scared of ghosts. And the first game with Luigi's fearful personality? ''Luigi's Mansion'', where he has to travel through a haunted mansion. Luigi is ''traumatized''. [[ThereAreNoTherapists And nobody seems to be helping him]].
**Yet somehow through all this traumatization, he took out an army of ghosts by himself.


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**If you continue to read the diary, you'll realize that one of the twins is susceptible to cold. This is because planes weren't protected from the weather when they were first built by Orville and his brother.
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* Wondering why does King Boo doesn't have his Jewel Crown in later games? Because Luigi sold it to buy his new mansion.

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* Wondering why does King Boo doesn't have his Jewel Crown in later games? Because Luigi sold it to buy his new mansion.mansion (even though the jewel is worth 1 COIN).

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