History Fridge / JupiterAscending

See [[Headscratchers/JupiterAscending the headscratchers page]].

* Many viewers complain about the ending in which [[spoiler: Jupiter goes back to cleaning toilets for a living, despite owning Earth. This makes sense when you realize that she could only live luxuriously by liquidating her assets, in other words ''killing the people of Earth.'' She's poor because she doesn't want to go through with the harvest.]]
* Why does Caine forgive [[spoiler: Stinger's betrayal]] so quickly? Because, apart from needing his help, Caine is a Lycantant who genetically ''needs'' a pack, on a level deeper than simply love and companionship. Of course he understands that [[spoiler: Stinger would do anything to save his daughter.]]

** It is also mentioned that planets are harvested when they reach the point where they cannot naturally sustain any greater population. The implication being the population is doomed anyway, so it doesn't disrupt the greater universe any to pulp the lot of them. [[spoiler: So (Earth) humanity is saved at the end of the film, only to die out with a whimper sometime in the near future.]]

* On a meta level, I just realized what this movie was. Think about it. The Wachowskis are massive anime fans. Ghost in the Shell was a major influence on The Matrix, while the elements of several cyberpunk series can be seen in the Na So Corpos scenes in Could Atlas. So now, they have a movie where an ordinary person for Earth who finds out that they are a crucial missing piece in interstellar politics, on which Earth barely registers as a blip. They must navigate through the interests of other parties while also working out their relationships with members of the opposite sex that want to both use them and protect them. Clearly, Jupiter Ascending is based loosely on Tenchi Muyo.

See [[Headscratchers/JupiterAscending]].

* If galactic medical technology is so advanced that it can produce splices, then why doesn't it just manufacture the required material synthetically? They do hand wave cloning (while demonstrating in the same sentence that they do not understand how cloning works) but even our 'primitive early genetic age culture' knows there are other options. So...?
** For the same reason we Earth humans can create glow-in-the-dark cats but can't create humans from scratch. The material has to come from somewhere, it can't just be made out of thin air. Even cloning requires a host to incubate the fetus, and given that Caine is described as coming from a litter, one can infer that he technically came out of a uterus, even if he doesn't have genetic parents as we would understand them. It's easier to just let the herd multiply by itself than create each one individually in a lab, anyway.
*** But we're not producing humans from scratch. We're producing whitish goo. We're not even producing whitish goo from scratch. That can come from any number of sources that are not human beings. I would also question how much white goo a facility the size of the Jupiter Processing Station could have produced it has been mass producing cells for the past ten thousand years or so.
*** Kalique states that an attempt to synthesize Recode several hundred thousand years ago resulted in a plague that killed trillions; this was considered an inherent limitation rather than a flaw in the process, resulting in synthetic Recode being declared illegal. This also leads into a touch of FridgeHorror in that [[http://www.cracked.com/article_19531_5-scientific-advances-that-should-have-changed-everything.html similar events]] have occurred on Earth in the past, and almost certainly are occurring ''right now'' - [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_depolymerization Thermal Depolymerization]] could turn just about any organic substance into oil, but the test plant was forced to shut down due to smell complaints - lodged on days when the plant ''wasn't running.'' The sly tone in Kalique's voice when she speaks of synthetic Recode makes one wonder if Abrasax Industries had a hand in preventing it from disrupting their business - if "time" wasn't scarce, how could the Abrasax family get rich selling it?
* Why were the alien hunters who were trying to find Jupiter having so much trouble identifying her? When searching for her they literally pushed her aside to kidnap a second human despite the fact that the film established (via a statue of the space empress) that Jupiter looked *exactly* like her predecessor. It should have been VERY easy for the spacefaring civilization to provide their hunters with a visual representation of what the empress who ruled the galaxy for 91 millenia looked like.
** Perhaps not all reincarnations look alike. Or maybe Kalique wouldn't know that the reincarnation would look like her mother. There is also the possibility that the bounty hunters didn't know what the Empress looked like, or at least not that well. Kalique would know her own mother, but bounty hunters probably wouldn't be able to recognise her on the spot.

* On a meta level, I just realized what this movie was. Think about it. The Wachowskis are massive anime fans. Ghost in the Shell was a major influence on The Matrix, while the elements of several cyberpunk serieses can be seen in the Na So Corpos scenes in Could Atlas. So now, they have a movie where an ordinary person for Earth who finds out that they are a crucial missing piece in interstellar politics, on which Earth barely registers as a blip. They must navigate through the interests of other parties while also working out their relationships with members of the opposite sex that want to both use them and protect them. Clearly, Jupiter Ascending is based loosely on Tenchi Muyo.

* Many viewers complain about the ending in which [[spoiler: Jupiter goes back to cleaning toilets for a living. This makes sense when you realize the only way that she is rich is if ''every person on Earth is harvested.'' She's only poor because she doesn't feel like having everyone murdered.]]

* Stinger mentions that the Abrasax were responsible for the extinction of the dinosaurs, 65-million-years ago, but only seeded the Earth 100,000-year ago. The only logical conclusion? This was merely the most recent seeding, Earth has been harvested 649 previous times. The Earth's population is currently expected to max out at 10 Billion people. Assuming all other things remain equal, past harvests have murdered 6,490,000,000,000 people. For perspective, the count for the human population usually starts at about 50,000 BC. Between then and now approximately 1/60th that many people have ever lived.

** For the same reason we Earth humans can create glow-in-the-dark cats but can't create humans from scratch. The material has to come from somewhere, it can't just be made out of thin air. Even cloning requires a host to incubate the fetus, and given that Caine is described as coming from a litter, one can infer that he technically came out of a uterus, even if he doesn't have genetic parents as we would understand them. It's easier to just let the herd multiple by itself than create each one individually in a lab, anyway.

[[AC:FridgeBrilliance]]

* On a meta level, I just realized what this movie was. Think about it. The Wachowskis are massive anime fans. Ghost in the Shell was a major influence on The Matrix, while the elements of several cyberpunk serieses can be seen in the Na So Corpos scenes in Could Atlas. So now, they have a movie where an ordinary person for Earth who finds out that they are a crucial missing piece in interstellar politics, on which Earth barely registers as a blip. They must navigate through the interests of other parties while also working out their relationships with members of the opposite sex that want to both use them and protect them. Clearly, Jupiter Ascending is based loosely on Tenchi Muyo.

* Many viewers complain about the ending in which [[spoiler: Jupiter goes back to cleaning toilets for a living. This makes sense when you realize the only way that she is rich is if ''every person on Earth is harvested.'' She's only poor because she doesn't feel like having everyone murdered.]]

** This becomes NightmareFuel when you realize that the "family business" will probably keep going regardless of who is running it. The real kicker is that the Abrasax are merely the ''largest'' developer of Recode. They aren't the ''only'' ones making it.

* Many viewers complain about the ending in which [[spoiler: Jupiter goes back to cleaning toilets for a living. This makes sense when you realize the only way that she is rich is if ''every person on Earth is harvested.'' She's only poor because she doesn't feel like having everyone murdered.

* On a meta level, I just realized what this movie was. Think about it. The Wachowskis are massive anime fans. Ghost in the Shell was a major influence on The Matrix, while the elements of several cyberpunk serieses can be seen in the Na So Corpos scenes in Could Atlas. So now, they have a movie where an ordinary person for Earth who finds out that they are a crucial missing piece in interstellar politics, on which Earth barely registers as a blip. They must navigate through the interests of other parties while also working out their relationships with members of the opposite sex that want to both use them and protect them. Clearly, Jupiter Ascending is based loosely on Tenchi Muyo.

* On a meta level, I just realized what this movie was. Think about it. The Wachowskis are massive anime fans. Ghost in the Shell was a major influence on The Matrix, while the elements of several cyberpunk serieses can be seen in the Na So Corpos scenes in Could Atlas. So now, they have a movie where an ordinary person for Earth who finds out that they are a crucial missing piece in interstellar politics, on which Earth barely registers as a blip. They must navigate through the interests of other parties while also working out their relationships with members of the opposite sex that want to both use them and protect them.
Don't you see?!?
JUPITER ASCENDING IS A TENCHI MUYO MOVIE!!!

*** But we're not producing humans from scratch. We're producing whitish goo. We're not even producing whitish goo from scratch. That can come from any number of sources that are not human beings. I would also question how much white goo a facility the size of the Jupiter Processing Station could have produced it has been mass producing cells for the past ten thousand years or so.

** For the same reason we Earth humans can create glow-in-the-dark cats but can't create humans from scratch. The material has to come from somewhere, it can't just be made out of thin air. Even cloning requires a host to incubate the fetus, and given that Caine is described as coming from a litter, one can infer that he technically came out of a uterus, even if he doesn't have genetic parents as we would understand them. It's easier to just let the herd multiple by itself than create each one individually in a lab, anyway.

* If galactic medical technology is so advanced that it can produce splices, then why doesn't it just manufacture the required material synthetically? They do hand wave cloning (while demonstrating in the same sentence that they do not understand how cloning works) but even our 'primitive early genetic age culture' knows there are other options. So...?

* In the end, Earth is saved and Jupiter is a [[KingIncognito Queen Incognito]] who gets to float-skate across the Chicago skyline, safe in the knowledge that no one can harvest Earth as long as it belongs to her and her family. Let's just hope that she, and her cousins, breed like rabbits and have loads of descendants, because the minute their family dies out Earth is ''' ''SCREWED.'' '''

* Stinger mentions that the Abrasax were responsible for the extinction of the dinosaurs, 65-million-years ago, but only seeded the Earth 100,000-year ago. The only logical conclusion? This was merely the most recent seeding, Earth has been harvested 649 previous times. The Earth's population is currently expected to max out at 10 Billion people. Assuming all other things remain equal, past harvests have murdered 6,490,000,000,000 people. For perspective, the count for the human population usually starts at about 50,000 BC. Between then and now approximately 1/60th that many people have ever lived.

* Stinger mentions that the Abrasax were responsible for the extinction of the dinosaurs, 65-million-years ago, but only seeded the Earth 100,000-year ago. The only logical conclusion? This was merely the most recent seeding, Earth has been harvested 649 previous times. The Earth's population is currently expected to max out at 10 Billion people. Assuming all other things remain equal, past harvests have murdered 6,490,000,000,000 people.

* Stinger mentions that the Abrasax were responsible for the extinction of the dinosaurs, 65-million-years ago, but only seeded the Earth 100,000-year ago. The only logical conclusion? This was merely the most recent seeding, Earth has been harvested 649 previous times.