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* In the last scene, [[spoiler:the gold is being loaded onto a new cruise ship by some of Epps' crewmates... specifically, the ones that were "marked" for their sins; Santos, Greer, and Dodge]]. This is ''after'' [[spoiler:the Graza was destroyed, and all of the other ghosts were set free. The marked ghosts aren't just trapped on whatever ship they died on, they're under Ferriman's control ''forever'']].

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* It's implied that the ''Graza'' is merely the latest ship [[spoiler:Ferriman]] used in his plot to [[spoiler:corrupt and salvage souls]]. If that's true, imagine how many other souls on other ships [[spoiler:he damned to Hell]].

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* It's implied that the ''Graza'' is merely the latest ship [[spoiler:Ferriman]] used in his plot to [[spoiler:corrupt and salvage souls]]. If that's true, imagine how many other souls on other ships [[spoiler:he damned to Hell]].Hell]]?
** Considering that he first made his DealWithTheDevil during the sinking of an old-timey wooden sailing ship...

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* [[spoiler:Ferriman's]] scheme is to tempt people to commit grave, even deadly, sins in order to be able to deliver a boatload of souls to hell. But most of the souls on the ship are innocent victims, ''and'', if the ship is lost before delivery, the whole batch will be be free to escape to heaven, sinners and innocents alike. It seems that the survival of the ship is more important in determining where you end up than whether you had been sinful or not.
** Presumably, that's the whole point of his mission: if the people whose souls he's collecting were bad to begin with, they'd have wound up in Hell anyway. His job is to cheat the system, whether by trapping souls outright or by suckering people into damning themselves.
*** That is exactly what the point of the ship is, it seems to be a floating Soul Trap, as long as the ship is in at least "servicable" condition, your soul stays there, dragged to Hell, the Trap part of the plan isn't about damning people while they are alive, otherwise they would already be hellbound and the ship would be pointless, the Gold is just to make a few go murderous, and kill the rest. Mind you, [[spoiler: Ferriman was a massive idiot anyway, if he had just let the salvage crew do their job and kept the "Marked" in check, the ship would have been fixed and he could continue to use it, then kill them, he literally lost the ship and it's "cargo" of several hundred souls, because he couldn't stop himself and the ghosts from adding to the cargo a measely 6 extra souls.]]
** Small argument on how this could actually circle back to Fridge Brilliance - Remember, this job is Ferriman's PUNISHMENT for his life of sin. He's not just stuck doing a "hard" job, this is literally supposed to be him suffering in the afterlife as consequence for his actions in life. This whole movie could be seen as a new version of Sisyphus; Ferriman is always going on about keeping Management "happy". A never ending task that he is compelled to complete no matter how many failures. And then he screws himself due to greed - he couldn't help trying to get just six more souls and in doing so ruined decades of "hard work" - the very same vice that is his main MO throughout the movie.
* [[spoiler: Ferriman]] states that if they lose the boat "management" won't be happy, after all, it's their punishment, but, at the end of the movie [[spoiler: Ferriman reappears loading a cargo of gold into another ship, so apparently "management" wasn't that bothered by the loss of several hundred souls.]]
** Or being [[spoiler: sent out to do it again is his punishment? After all Ferriman is also damned, perhaps being forced to come up with ways to get more souls is his punishment and if he fails he has to start again.]]

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* [[spoiler:Ferriman's]] scheme is to tempt people to commit grave, even deadly, sins in order to be able to deliver a boatload of souls to hell. But most of the souls on the ship are innocent victims, ''and'', if the ship is lost before delivery, the whole batch will be be free to escape to heaven, sinners and innocents alike. It seems that the survival of the ship is more important in determining where you end up than whether you had been sinful or not.
** Presumably, that's the whole point of his mission: if the people whose souls he's collecting were bad to begin with, they'd have wound up in Hell anyway. His job is to cheat the system, whether by trapping souls outright or by suckering people into damning themselves.
*** That is exactly what the point of the ship is, it seems to be a floating Soul Trap, as long as the ship is in at least "servicable" condition, your soul stays there, dragged to Hell, the Trap part of the plan isn't about damning people while they are alive, otherwise they would already be hellbound and the ship would be pointless, the Gold is just to make a few go murderous, and kill the rest. Mind you, [[spoiler: Ferriman was a massive idiot anyway, if he had just let the salvage crew do their job and kept the "Marked" in check, the ship would have been fixed and he could continue to use it, then kill them, he literally lost the ship and it's "cargo" of several hundred souls, because he couldn't stop himself and the ghosts from adding to the cargo a measely 6 extra souls.]]
** Small argument on how this could actually circle back to Fridge Brilliance - Remember, this job is Ferriman's PUNISHMENT for his life of sin. He's not just stuck doing a "hard" job, this is literally supposed to be him suffering in the afterlife as consequence for his actions in life. This whole movie could be seen as a new version of Sisyphus; Ferriman is always going on about keeping Management "happy". A never ending task that he is compelled to complete no matter how many failures. And then he screws himself due to greed - he couldn't help trying to get just six more souls and in doing so ruined decades of "hard work" - the very same vice that is his main MO throughout the movie.
* [[spoiler: Ferriman]] states that if they lose the boat "management" won't be happy, after all, it's their punishment, but, at the end of the movie [[spoiler: Ferriman reappears loading a cargo of gold into another ship, so apparently "management" wasn't that bothered by the loss of several hundred souls.]]
** Or being [[spoiler: sent out to do it again is his punishment? After all Ferriman is also damned, perhaps being forced to come up with ways to get more souls is his punishment and if he fails he has to start again.]]
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* [[spoiler: Ferriman]] states that if they lose the boat "management" won't be happy, after all, it's their punishment, but, at the end of the movie [[spoiler: Ferriman reappears loading a cargo of gold into another ship, so apparently "management" wasn't that bothered by the loss of several hundred souls.]]

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* [[spoiler: Ferriman]] states that if they lose the boat "management" won't be happy, after all, it's their punishment, but, at the end of the movie [[spoiler: Ferriman reappears loading a cargo of gold into another ship, so apparently "management" wasn't that bothered by the loss of several hundred souls.]]
** Or being [[spoiler: sent out to do it again is his punishment? After all Ferriman is also damned, perhaps being forced to come up with ways to get more souls is his punishment and if he fails he has to start again.
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** Small argument on how this could actually circle back to Fridge Brilliance - Remember, this job is Ferriman's PUNISHMENT for his life of sin. He's not just stuck doing a "hard" job, this is literally supposed to be him suffering in the afterlife as consequence for his actions in life. This whole movie could be seen as a new version of Sisyphus; Ferriman is always going on about keeping Management "happy". A never ending task that he is compelled to complete no matter how many failures. And then he screws himself due to greed - he couldn't help trying to get just six more souls and in doing so ruined decades of "hard work" - the very same vice that is his main MO throughout the movie.

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** Small argument on how this could actually circle back to Fridge Brilliance - Remember, this job is Ferriman's PUNISHMENT for his life of sin. He's not just stuck doing a "hard" job, this is literally supposed to be him suffering in the afterlife as consequence for his actions in life. This whole movie could be seen as a new version of Sisyphus; Ferriman is always going on about keeping Management "happy". A never ending task that he is compelled to complete no matter how many failures. And then he screws himself due to greed - he couldn't help trying to get just six more souls and in doing so ruined decades of "hard work" - the very same vice that is his main MO throughout the movie.movie.
* [[spoiler: Ferriman]] states that if they lose the boat "management" won't be happy, after all, it's their punishment, but, at the end of the movie [[spoiler: Ferriman reappears loading a cargo of gold into another ship, so apparently "management" wasn't that bothered by the loss of several hundred souls.]]
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*** That is exactly what the point of the ship is, it seems to be a floating Soul Trap, as long as the ship is in at least "servicable" condition, your soul stays there, dragged to Hell, the Trap part of the plan isn't about damning people while they are alive, otherwise they would already be hellbound and the ship would be pointless, the Gold is just to make a few go murderous, and kill the rest. Mind you, [[spoiler: Ferriman was a massive idiot anyway, if he had just let the salvage crew do their job and kept the "Marked" in check, the ship would have been fixed and he could continue to use it, then kill them, he literally lost the ship and it's "cargo" of several hundred souls, because he couldn't stop himself and the ghosts from adding to the cargo a measely 6 extra souls.]]

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*** That is exactly what the point of the ship is, it seems to be a floating Soul Trap, as long as the ship is in at least "servicable" condition, your soul stays there, dragged to Hell, the Trap part of the plan isn't about damning people while they are alive, otherwise they would already be hellbound and the ship would be pointless, the Gold is just to make a few go murderous, and kill the rest. Mind you, [[spoiler: Ferriman was a massive idiot anyway, if he had just let the salvage crew do their job and kept the "Marked" in check, the ship would have been fixed and he could continue to use it, then kill them, he literally lost the ship and it's "cargo" of several hundred souls, because he couldn't stop himself and the ghosts from adding to the cargo a measely 6 extra souls.]]]]
**Small argument on how this could actually circle back to Fridge Brilliance - Remember, this job is Ferriman's PUNISHMENT for his life of sin. He's not just stuck doing a "hard" job, this is literally supposed to be him suffering in the afterlife as consequence for his actions in life. This whole movie could be seen as a new version of Sisyphus; Ferriman is always going on about keeping Management "happy". A never ending task that he is compelled to complete no matter how many failures. And then he screws himself due to greed - he couldn't help trying to get just six more souls and in doing so ruined decades of "hard work" - the very same vice that is his main MO throughout the movie.
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* It's implied that the ''Graza'' is merely the latest ship [[spoiler:Ferriman]] used in his plot to [[spoiler:corrupt and salvage souls]]. If that's true, imagine how many other souls on other ships [[spoiler:he damned to Hell]].
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** Presumably, that's the whole point of his mission: if the people whose souls he's collecting were bad to begin with, they'd have wound up in Hell anyway. His job is to cheat the system, whether by trapping souls outright or by suckering people into damning themselves.

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** Presumably, that's the whole point of his mission: if the people whose souls he's collecting were bad to begin with, they'd have wound up in Hell anyway. His job is to cheat the system, whether by trapping souls outright or by suckering people into damning themselves.themselves.
*** That is exactly what the point of the ship is, it seems to be a floating Soul Trap, as long as the ship is in at least "servicable" condition, your soul stays there, dragged to Hell, the Trap part of the plan isn't about damning people while they are alive, otherwise they would already be hellbound and the ship would be pointless, the Gold is just to make a few go murderous, and kill the rest. Mind you, [[spoiler: Ferriman was a massive idiot anyway, if he had just let the salvage crew do their job and kept the "Marked" in check, the ship would have been fixed and he could continue to use it, then kill them, he literally lost the ship and it's "cargo" of several hundred souls, because he couldn't stop himself and the ghosts from adding to the cargo a measely 6 extra souls.]]
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* At the beginning when the dancers died from the wire, everything went quiet. Not just the shocked dancers, but the background as well. The music and the singing completely stopped. No screaming. None of the crew went to help. Until we saw the reveal [[spoiler: that most of the crew, including Francesca was part of the murder. So of course they wouldn't be affected by seeing such a horrific sight.]]

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* At the beginning when the dancers died from the wire, everything went quiet. Not just the shocked dancers, but the background as well. The music and the singing completely stopped. No screaming. None of the crew went to help. Until we saw the reveal [[spoiler: that most of the crew, including Francesca Francesca, was part of the murder. So of course they wouldn't be affected by seeing such a horrific sight.]]
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* At the beginning when the dancers died from the wire, everything went quiet. Not just the shocked dancers, but the background as well. The music and the singing completely stopped. No screaming. None of the crew went to help. Until we saw the reveal [[spoiler: that most of the crew, including the singer was part of the murder. So of course they wouldn't be affected by seeing such a horrific sight.]]

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* At the beginning when the dancers died from the wire, everything went quiet. Not just the shocked dancers, but the background as well. The music and the singing completely stopped. No screaming. None of the crew went to help. Until we saw the reveal [[spoiler: that most of the crew, including the singer Francesca was part of the murder. So of course they wouldn't be affected by seeing such a horrific sight.]]
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** [[http://www.dailyscript.com/scripts/ghost_ship.html Original script]] / First Draft confirms this fridge horror. [[spoiler:To make it worse, everything happened [[ForcedToWatch in front of her father]]]].

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** The first draft of the [[http://www.dailyscript.com/scripts/ghost_ship.html Original original script]] / First Draft confirms this fridge horror. [[spoiler:To make it worse, everything happened [[ForcedToWatch in front of her father]]]].
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* At the beginning when the dancers died from the wire, everything went quiet. Not just the shocked dancers, but the background as well. The music and the singing completely stopped. No screaming. None of the crew went to help. Until we saw the reveal [[spoiler: that most of the crew, including the singer was part of the murder. So of course they wouldn't be effected by seeing such a horrific sight.]]

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* At the beginning when the dancers died from the wire, everything went quiet. Not just the shocked dancers, but the background as well. The music and the singing completely stopped. No screaming. None of the crew went to help. Until we saw the reveal [[spoiler: that most of the crew, including the singer was part of the murder. So of course they wouldn't be effected affected by seeing such a horrific sight.]]



* Katie's body is found [[spoiler: hanged]] in her quarters. If her killers had time to [[spoiler: drag her back to her quarters and string her up,]] what else did they have time to do? Why else would they go to the trouble of [[spoiler: taking her all the way back to her room]] if they were openly [[spoiler: slitting everyone else's throats in the middle of the hallway]]? Chances are, [[spoiler: being hanged was just the end of [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil what they did to her]]...]]
** [[http://www.dailyscript.com/scripts/ghost_ship.html Original script]] / First Draft confirms this fridge horror. [[spoiler:To make it worse, everything happened [[ForcedToWatch in front of her father]] ]].

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* Katie's body is found [[spoiler: hanged]] [[spoiler:hanged]] in her quarters. If her killers had time to [[spoiler: drag [[spoiler:drag her back to her quarters and string her up,]] what else did they have time to do? Why else would they go to the trouble of [[spoiler: taking [[spoiler:taking her all the way back to her room]] if they were openly [[spoiler: slitting [[spoiler:slitting everyone else's throats in the middle of the hallway]]? Chances are, [[spoiler: being [[spoiler:being hanged was just the end of [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil what they did to her]]...]]
** [[http://www.dailyscript.com/scripts/ghost_ship.html Original script]] / First Draft confirms this fridge horror. [[spoiler:To make it worse, everything happened [[ForcedToWatch in front of her father]] ]].father]]]].
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* At the beginning when the dancers died from the wire, everything went quiet. Not just the shocked dancers, but the background as well. The music and the singing completely stopped. No screaming. None of the crew went to help. Until we saw the reveal [[spoiler: that most of the crew, including the singer was part of the murder. So of course they wouldn't be effected by seeing such a horrific sight.]]
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* [[spoiler:Ferriman's]] scheme is to tempt people to commit grave, even deadly, sins in order to be able to deliver a boatload of souls to hell. But most of the souls on the ship are innocent victims, ''and'', if the ship is lost before delivery, the whole batch will be be free to escape to heaven, sinners and innocents alike. It seems that the survival of the ship is more important in determining where you end up than whether you had been sinful or not.

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* [[spoiler:Ferriman's]] scheme is to tempt people to commit grave, even deadly, sins in order to be able to deliver a boatload of souls to hell. But most of the souls on the ship are innocent victims, ''and'', if the ship is lost before delivery, the whole batch will be be free to escape to heaven, sinners and innocents alike. It seems that the survival of the ship is more important in determining where you end up than whether you had been sinful or not.not.
** Presumably, that's the whole point of his mission: if the people whose souls he's collecting were bad to begin with, they'd have wound up in Hell anyway. His job is to cheat the system, whether by trapping souls outright or by suckering people into damning themselves.
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** [[http://www.dailyscript.com/scripts/ghost_ship.html Original script]] / First Draft confirms this fridge horror. [[spoiler:To make it worse, everything happened [[ForcedToWatch in front of her father]] ]].

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** [[http://www.dailyscript.com/scripts/ghost_ship.html Original script]] / First Draft confirms this fridge horror. [[spoiler:To make it worse, everything happened [[ForcedToWatch in front of her father]] ]].]].
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* [[spoiler:Ferriman's]] scheme is to tempt people to commit grave, even deadly, sins in order to be able to deliver a boatload of souls to hell. But most of the souls on the ship are innocent victims, ''and'', if the ship is lost before delivery, the whole batch will be be free to escape to heaven, sinners and innocents alike. It seems that the survival of the ship is more important in determining where you end up than whether you had been sinful or not.
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* Katie's body is found [[spoiler: hanged]] in her quarters. If her killers had time to [[spoiler: drag her back to her quarters and string her up,]] what else did they have time to do? Why else would they go to the trouble of [[spoiler: taking her all the way back to her room]] if they were openly [[spoiler: slitting everyone else's throats in the middle of the hallway]]? Chances are, [[spoiler: being hanged was just the end of what they did to her...]]
** [[http://www.dailyscript.com/scripts/ghost_ship.html Original script]] / First Draft confirms this fridge horror.

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* Katie's body is found [[spoiler: hanged]] in her quarters. If her killers had time to [[spoiler: drag her back to her quarters and string her up,]] what else did they have time to do? Why else would they go to the trouble of [[spoiler: taking her all the way back to her room]] if they were openly [[spoiler: slitting everyone else's throats in the middle of the hallway]]? Chances are, [[spoiler: being hanged was just the end of [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil what they did to her...her]]...]]
** [[http://www.dailyscript.com/scripts/ghost_ship.html Original script]] / First Draft confirms this fridge horror. [[spoiler:To make it worse, everything happened [[ForcedToWatch in front of her father]] ]].
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* Katie's body is found [[spoiler: hung]] in her quarters. If her killers had time to [[spoiler: drag her back to her quarters and string her up,]] what else did they have time to do? Why else would they go to the trouble of [[spoiler: taking her all the way back to her room]] if they were openly [[spoiler: slitting everyone else's throats in the middle of the hallway]]? Chances are, [[spoiler: being hung was just the end of what they did to her...]]

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* Katie's body is found [[spoiler: hung]] hanged]] in her quarters. If her killers had time to [[spoiler: drag her back to her quarters and string her up,]] what else did they have time to do? Why else would they go to the trouble of [[spoiler: taking her all the way back to her room]] if they were openly [[spoiler: slitting everyone else's throats in the middle of the hallway]]? Chances are, [[spoiler: being hung hanged was just the end of what they did to her...]]

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** Actually, Ferriman wanted as many of the people on the ship as possible to go to Hell. The implication is that she was forced to hang herself. This would make her commit suicide, a sin, which would send her to Hell.
*** [[spoiler: The crew were happily machinegunning and throat slashing their way through the passengers, and obviously having the debauched time of their lives; they made no effort at all to force anyone else into sinning in any way. Why would they bother haranguing a small girl into hanging herself, when they can just as easily gang rape her and then string her up? There's no implication of any sort, other than two slavering madmen dragged her into her room, and then we see her dessicated corpse hanging. Which is more likely?]]
** [[http://www.dailyscript.com/scripts/ghost_ship.html Original script]] / First Draft confirms this fridge horror. Trigger warning.

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** Actually, Ferriman wanted as many of the people on the ship as possible to go to Hell. The implication is that she was forced to hang herself. This would make her commit suicide, a sin, which would send her to Hell.
*** [[spoiler: The crew were happily machinegunning and throat slashing their way through the passengers, and obviously having the debauched time of their lives; they made no effort at all to force anyone else into sinning in any way. Why would they bother haranguing a small girl into hanging herself, when they can just as easily gang rape her and then string her up? There's no implication of any sort, other than two slavering madmen dragged her into her room, and then we see her dessicated corpse hanging. Which is more likely?]]
** [[http://www.dailyscript.com/scripts/ghost_ship.html Original script]] / First Draft confirms this fridge horror. Trigger warning.
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*** [[spoiler: The crew were happily machinegunning and throat slashing their way through the passengers, and obviously having the debauched time of their lives; they made no effort at all to force anyone else into sinning in any way. Why would they bother haranguing a small girl into hanging herself, when they can just as easily gang rape her and then string her up? There's no implication of any sort, other than two slavering madmen dragged her into her room, and then we see her dessicated corpse hanging. Which is more likely?]]

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*** [[spoiler: The crew were happily machinegunning and throat slashing their way through the passengers, and obviously having the debauched time of their lives; they made no effort at all to force anyone else into sinning in any way. Why would they bother haranguing a small girl into hanging herself, when they can just as easily gang rape her and then string her up? There's no implication of any sort, other than two slavering madmen dragged her into her room, and then we see her dessicated corpse hanging. Which is more likely?]]likely?]]
**[[http://www.dailyscript.com/scripts/ghost_ship.html Original script]] / First Draft confirms this fridge horror. Trigger warning.
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* Katie's body is found [[spoiler: hung]] in her quarters. If her killers had time to [[spoiler: drag her back to her quarters and string her up,]] what else did they have time to do? Why else would they go to the trouble of [[spoiler: taking her all the way back to her room]] if they were openly [[spoiler: slitting everyone else's throats in the middle of the hallway]]? Chances are, [[spoiler: being hung was just the end of what they did to her...]]
** Actually, Ferriman wanted as many of the people on the ship as possible to go to Hell. The implication is that she was forced to hang herself. This would make her commit suicide, a sin, which would send her to Hell.
*** [[spoiler: The crew were happily machinegunning and throat slashing their way through the passengers, and obviously having the debauched time of their lives; they made no effort at all to force anyone else into sinning in any way. Why would they bother haranguing a small girl into hanging herself, when they can just as easily gang rape her and then string her up? There's no implication of any sort, other than two slavering madmen dragged her into her room, and then we see her dessicated corpse hanging. Which is more likely?]]

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