History Fridge / FireEmblemGenealogyOfTheHolyWar

* Philip, the Heirhein general in Chapter 2, orders his men to form a defensive line after Elliot's cavalry squad have rushed off to attack Nordion. This doesn't make sense from a story standpoint – Heirhein doesn't know that Grannvale is going to be involved in the civil war, so why would Heirhein defend its castle if it's fighting against ''Nordion'', whose military might at the time is essentially three Cross Knights? The Suzuki novelization offers an answer: Philip found it improper for the Agustrian lords to infight, but couldn't speak out against his own lord: therefore, he ordered his men to remain put to avoid escalating the senseless battle that Elliot was waging.

* Despite Eldigan being accused of being LawfulStupid by the fanbase due to his actions of [[spoiler:saving and supporting the likes of [[The Caligula Chagall]]]] until the very end despite everything he did, his situation at the beginning of Chapter 3 is a perilous one and it's no wonder he feels trapped no matter what he does. While Sigurd invading Agustria saved Eldigan and Lachesis' life, his actions turned the nation into a dependent state at the mercy of Granbell, with the corrupt governors recently appointed essentially replacing the corrupt Agustrian nobles he killed. [[spoiler: While Eldigan could have replaced Chagall as king, doing so would not only tarnish his reputation by becoming an TheUsruper no different from him, it was inevitable that he would fight and rebel against Grannvale, seeing as how Sigurd could not convince sway his superiors in granting Agustria freedom due to Reptor and Lombard essentially controlling the kingdom by then.]]

* Despite Eldigan being accused of being LawfulStupid by the fanbase due to his actions of [[spoiler:saving and supporting the likes of [[ [[The Caligula Chagall]] until the very end]] despite everything he did, his situation at the beginning of Chapter 3 is a perilous one and it's no wonder he feels trapped no matter what he does. While Sigurd invading Agustria saved Eldigan and Lachesis' life, his actions turned the nation into a dependent state at the mercy of Granbell, with the corrupt governors recently appointed essentially replacing the corrupt Agustrian nobles he killed. [[spoiler: While Eldigan could have replaced Chagall as king, doing so would not only tarnish his reputation by becoming an TheUsruper no different from him, it was inevitable that he would fight and rebel against Grannvale, seeing as how Sigurd could not convince sway his superiors in granting Agustria freedom due to Reptor and Lombard essentially controlling the kingdom by then.]]

* Despite Eldigan being accused of being LawfulStupid by the fanbase due to his actions of [[spoiler:saving and supporting the likes of [[The Caligula Chagall]] until the very end]] despite everything he did, his situation at the beginning of Chapter 3 is a perilous one and it's no wonder he feels trapped no matter what he does. While Sigurd invading Agustria saved Eldigan and Lachesis' life, his actions turned the nation into a dependent state at the mercy of Granbell, with the corrupt governors recently appointed essentially replacing the corrupt Agustrian nobles he killed. [[spoiler: While Eldigan could have replaced Chagall as king, doing so would not only tarnish his reputation by becoming an TheUsruper no different from him, it was inevitable that he would fight and rebel against Grannvale, seeing as how Sigurd could not convince sway his superiors in granting Agustria freedom due to Reptor and Lombard essentially controlling the kingdom by then.]]

* Despite Eldigan being accused of being LawfulStupid by the fanbase due to his actions of [[spoiler:saving and supporting the likes of [[The Caligula Chagall]] until the very end]] despite everything he did, his situation at the beginning of Chapter 3 is a perilous one and it's no wonder he feels trapped.

While Sigurd invading Agustria saved Eldigan and Lachesis' life, his actions turned the nation into a dependent state at the mercy of Granbell, with the corrupt governors recently appointed essentially replacing the corrupt Agustrian nobles he killed. [[spoiler: While Eldigan could have replaced Chagall as king, doing so would not only tarnish his reputation by becoming an TheUsruper no different from him, it was inevitable that he would fight and rebel against Grannvale, seeing as how Sigurd could not convince sway his superiors in granting Agustria freedom due to Reptor and Lombard essentially controlling the kingdom by then.]]

* It might seem a bit strange at first that enemies in the second generation use fire and thunder magic almost exclusively, since wind magic is objectively better in this game. However, this actually makes sense; wind magic is the signature weapon type of Silesse, while fire and thunder magic are the signature weapons of Velthomer and Freege, respectively. Since Velthomer and Freege are territories of Grannvale, which is, of course, the main enemy in the second generation, of course the Grannvalian army would be getting their weapons from there instead of Silesse. This is further supported by the fact that Musar (a boss in chapter 9, and the only enemy character in the second generation to use wind magic) has minor Sety holy blood, and therefore must've been born in Silesse.

* Remember the Battle of Belhalla? How tragic that was? Yeah, we can make it even ''worse''. Since Azelle was in Sigurd's army, that means Arvis almost ''certainly'' '''killed his own half-brother'''.

* There's quite the speculation about [[spoiler:Anguilla from the Twelve Deadlords]] actually being [[spoiler:a forcibly revived Tailtiu (or her little sister Ethnia, if Tailtiu was left unmarried)]]. The lead hints are [[spoiler:them having the same class (Tailtiu can promote into Mage Fighter, Anguilla already is one, nothing is said about Ethnia's supposed class but she probably was a Mage Fighter too)]], [[spoiler:both having minor Tordo blood]], ''and'' [[spoiler:Anguilla possessing a Thoron spellbook, just like Tailtiu did when recruited]]. Sure, it's just speculation at the moment, but if it ''is'' true... then [[FromBadToWorse HOT DAMN.]]

* The Oosawa manga raises some fridge horror regarding the replacement children characters. The only way you can get them is if the mothers of the regular children go unmarried, therefore they (the regular children) don't exist in part 2. The reverse isn't necessarily true, however. Only two pairs of siblings have at least one established parent (Amid and Linda for Ethnia and Tristan and Jeanne for Eve), and even they could still theoretically exist even if the regular children are born. The question is, ''why are they never seen at any point?'' The worst part is, Larcei and Lana flat out state that they've lost friends to the Empire. Granted, this fridge horror ''might'' be lessened by the fact that some of them were supposed to appear in ''Thracia 776'', but not by much.

* The first Holy War was actually only about a hundred years ago. This would explain why the Loptyr Sect survived the years after the war (wasn't too long for them to die off), why some characters (Scipio) don't have Holy Blood despite being nobility, and why the power of the Crusader Weapons faded in later games (they weren't meant to last, and only still work in the game because they're not that old).

* [[spoiler: Brigid and Edain]] are amongst the small few that survive the entire game, it can't be a concidence that both of them have the highest [[BornLucky luck growth]] of Sigurd's army

** Also it's likely that the former people of her lineage married persons that were from the Spirit Forest village and were guaranteed to [[spoiler:not be Lopts]]; [[spoiler:Manfroy took care to make sure that, for Julius to be born, ''two'' people with minor Lopt had kids. (Them being Deirdre and Arvis, obviously.)]] Deirdre's mom was a sort-of special case: [[spoiler:Cigyun's hinted to have ''escaped'' from the Spirit Forest to see the outside world, which led to her marrying Viktor/having Arvis/being cheated on/cheating with Kurth/getting preggers with Deirdre/running back to the Forest when everything blew up in her face/giving birth to Deirdre and dying.]]

** I think [[spoiler:Azel and Deirdre]] about the same age, give or take a few months.

* In regards to the aftermath of Chapter 5, how did [[spoiler:most of the female characters survive the Battle of Belhalla without being captured and enslaved by TheEmpire? They seem to have enough time to do their own thing in between the time skip, some survive to appear in the [[VideoGame/FireEmblemThracia776 next game]] (Brigid) while others like Lachesis died sometime after the battle. Even then the massive meteor strikes in a small setting should kill all of them already]].

* There's quite the speculation about [[spoiler:Anguilla from the Twelve Deadlords]] actually being [[spoiler:a forcibly revived Tailtiu (or her little sister Ethnia, if Tailtiu was left unmarried)]]. The lead hints are [[spoiler:them having the same class (Tailtiu can promote into Mage Fighter, Anguilla already is one, nothing is said about Ethnia's supposed class but she probably was a Mage Fighter too)]], [[spoiler:both having minor Tordo blood]] ''and'' [[spoiler:Anguilla possessing a Thoron spellbook, just like Tailtiu did when recruited]]. Sure, it's just speculation at the moment, but if it ''is'' true... then [[FromBadToWorse HOT DAMN.]]

*** Holy Blood and abilities are taken into consideration, which was why [[spoiler:only Tailtiu enters the possible speculation, with her only missing out the Pursuit skill. Mus is a Baron and has affinity with magic AND Adept AND Pursuit, all of it which Arden lacked (you can give him Pursuit with Pursuit Ring, but he misses out other aspects). Canis did not have any Holy Blood and Nihil unlike Deirdre, who in turn did not have Pursuit and Critical. Though scarily... Jamke as Draco might look very likely as they were probably very spot-on... ''even moreso than Tailtiu as Anguilla'']]

* There's quite the speculation about [[spoiler:Anguilla from the Twelve Dreadlords]] actually being [[spoiler:a forcibly revived Tailtiu (or her little sister Ethnia, if Tailtiu was left unmarried)]]. The lead hints are [[spoiler:them having the same class (Tailtiu can promote into Mage Fighter, Anguilla already is one, nothing is said about Ethnia's supposed class but she probably was a Mage Fighter too)]], [[spoiler:both having minor Tordo blood]] ''and'' [[spoiler:Anguilla possessing a Thoron spellbook, just like Tailtiu did when recruited]]. Sure, it's just speculation at the moment, but if it ''is'' true... then [[FromBadToWorse HOT DAMN.]]

** In regards to the aftermath of Chapter 5, how did [[spoiler:most of the female characters survive the Battle of Belhalla without being captured and enslaved by TheEmpire? They seem to have enough time to do their own thing in between the time skip, some survive to appear in the [[VideoGame/FireEmblemThracia776 next game]] (Brigid) while others like Lachesis died sometime after the battle. Even then the massive meteor strikes in a small setting should kill all of them already]].

* Despite the maps in ''Genealogy'' being gigantic, the territories of nations seem tiny, especially in maps where castles are relatively closely placed together. But Jugdral in general is supposed to be a TheDungAges look on Fire Emblem. Territories really were relatively small compared to today's world; nation-building hasn't taken place yet! [[spoiler: At least, at the start of the game...]]
* The Nattsu Fujimori manga's interpretation of the Silence Staff is that if the victim tries to cast magic, he can only shout random words. That makes sense, since using the Silence Staff on bosses doesn't stop them from talking.

* Selfina says that Finn was always cold to women, even his own wife. In Genealogy, Finn has three predestined pairings (Raquesis, Adean, and Ayra), but ''he never talks to them''. He is the only first generation male who never gets a conversation with a girl. He only gets predestined pairings because he can talk to his daughters.

* Deirdre is forbidden to meet men [[spoiler:for fear that she will give birth to a kid with major Lopt blood]]. But the fact of her existence means that either ''she'' is the first one to be given this restriction, or people in her family just cannot avoid getting married despite sequestering themselves in the Spirit Forest for generations.
** In the Oosawa manga, the elder of the group wasn't too happy to see her with Sigurd but accepted Deirdre's decision to leave. Perhaps she believed that it was Deirdre's destiny and [[YouCantFightFate she can't go against it]], or that the other [[spoiler:Lopt blood]] people had been extinguished after several generations of them being hunted down. (And indeed, [[spoiler:Manfroy tells Arvis that the persecution against Lopts is still on, and that if people learned he had Lopt blood he'd be [[BurnTheWitch burned at the stake]].]])

* How old are Azel and Arvis? Arvis is confirmed to be seven years older at the most, since he was seven when their father died. And then there's [[spoiler: Deirdre...]]. [[spoiler: Given the timeline... When Arvis was seven, his father Viktor committed suicide because he found out about Cigyun having an affair that resulted in Deirdre. Deirdre is eighteen at the start of the game. If Cigyun ran away right before or after Viktor committed suicide... then Azel would have to be older than Deirdre.]]

* There's quite the speculation about [[spoiler: Anguilla from the Twelve Dreadlords]] actually being [[spoiler: a forcibly revived Tailtiu (or her little sister Ethnia, if Tailtiu doesn't have kids)]]. The lead hints are [[spoiler: them having the same class (Tailtiu can promote into Mage Fighter, Anguilla already is one, nothing is said about Ethnia's supposed class but she probably was a Mage Fighter too)]], [[spoiler: both having minor Tordo blood]] ''and'' [[spoiler: Anguilla possessing a Thoron spellbook, just like Tailtiu did when recruited]]. Sure, it's just speculation at the moment, but if it ''is'' true... then [[FromBadToWorse HOT DAMN.]]
* The Oosawa manga raises some fridge horror regarding the replacement children characters. The only way you can get them is if the mothers of the regular children go unmarried, therefore they (the regular children) don't exist in part 2. The reverse isn't necessarily true, however. Only two pairs of siblings have at least one established parent (Amid and Linda for Ethnia and Tristan and Jeanne for Eve), and even they could still theoretically exist even if the regular children are born. The question is, ''why are they never seen at any point?'' The worst part is, Larcei and Lana flat out state that they've lost friends to the Empire. Granted, this fridge horror ''might'' be lessened by the fact that some of them were supposed to appear in Thracia 776, but not by much.

* There's quite the speculation about [[spoiler: Anguilla from the Twelve Dreadlords]] actually being [[spoiler: a forcibly revived Tailtiu (or her little sister Ethnia, if Tailtiu doesn't have kids)]]. The lead hints are [[spoiler: them having the same class (Tailtiu can promote into Mage Fighter, Anguilla already is one, nothing is said about Ethnia's supposed class but she probably was a Mage Fighter too)]], [[spoiler: both having minor Tordo blood]] ''and'' [[spoiler: Anguilla possessing a Thoron spellbook, just like Tailtiu did when recruited]]. Sure, it's just speculation at the moment, but if it ''is'' true... then [[FromBadToWorse HOT DAMN.]]

* Genealogy is much larger in scale in just about every manner. Not only do months pass in between chapters, but one can easily imagine a single turn being the equivalent of an in-game day.

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