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** Considering how all of his [[NoHonorAmongThieves criminal relationships backfired horribly]], Walt realized that working with an actual assassin is too risky. Even Ed the Cleaner wasn't honorable enough to not take Walt's money. Badger and Skinny Pete are benign crooks who would never o anything to the Schwartzes. Hell, they even feel bad for scaring an innocent couple, until Walt pays them.

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** Considering how all of his [[NoHonorAmongThieves criminal relationships backfired horribly]], Walt realized that working with an actual assassin is too risky. Even Ed the Cleaner wasn't honorable enough to not take Walt's money. Badger and Skinny Pete are benign crooks who would never o do anything to the Schwartzes. Hell, they even feel bad for scaring an innocent couple, until Walt pays them.
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** While Walt is mad at the Schwartzes for trying to minimize his contributions, he [[EvenEvilHasStandards realizes they don't to have a sniper rifle pointed at them]]. [[RestrainedRevenge Spooking them is revenge enough]].

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** While Walt is mad at the Schwartzes for trying to minimize his contributions, he [[EvenEvilHasStandards realizes they don't deserve to have a sniper rifle pointed at them]]. [[RestrainedRevenge Spooking them is revenge enough]].



** The professional assassin could turn Walt over to the feds.


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** The professional assassin could turn Walt over to the feds.feds, and Walt doesn't have the luxury of trust.

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* In "Felina" Walt intimidates Gretchen and Elliot by pretending to have hired assassins when in reality he hired Badger and Skinny Pete to point lasers at them. It is possible Walt considered hiring a real assassin, but didn't do it for several reasons.
** While Walt is mad at the Schwartzes for trying to minimize his contributions, he [[EvenEvilHasStandards realizes they don't to have a sniper rifle pointed at them]]. [[RestrainedRevenge Spooking them is revenge enough]].
** Considering how all of his [[NoHonorAmongThieves criminal relationships backfired horribly]], Walt realized that working with an actual assassin is too risky. Even Ed the Cleaner wasn't honorable enough to not take Walt's money. Badger and Skinny Pete are benign crooks who would never o anything to the Schwartzes. Hell, they even feel bad for scaring an innocent couple, until Walt pays them.
** The professional assassin could turn Walt over to the feds.

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** The scene where he's racking his head before Ted arrives in his office, saying: "This is a bad idea...this is a bad idea...this is a bad idea..." as if he knows Ted is probably on the same league of idiocracy as the Kettlemans or Daniel Warmold.

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** The scene where he's racking his head before Ted arrives in his office, saying: "This is a bad idea...this is a bad idea...this is a bad idea..." as if he knows Ted is probably on the same league of idiocracy idiocy as the Kettlemans or Daniel Warmold.
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* Heisenberg actually ends up being something of an accidental hero: his actions end up with the collapse of not 1, not 2, but 4 major crime syndicates: The Cartel, Pollos Hermanos, the Arizona Neo-Nazis, and the Blue Sky cook. He arguably did more for the War on Drugs than the DEA, in universe. Not only that, but also more impact on gangs in general than the FBI by taking out an entire state’s worth of non-imprisoned Nazis.

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* Heisenberg actually ends up being something of an accidental hero: his actions end up with the collapse of not 1, not 2, but 4 major crime syndicates: The Cartel, Los Pollos Hermanos, the Arizona Neo-Nazis, and the Blue Sky cook. He arguably did more for the War on Drugs than the DEA, in universe. Not only that, but also more impact on gangs in general than the FBI by taking out an entire state’s worth of non-imprisoned Nazis.
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Jossed by Better Call Saul. Saul has to know at least several since he has access to the same criminal network that people like Mr. X, his unseen friends and Man Mountain are part of.


** Saul explains he simply doesn't know any. It's as simple as that.
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The pickup code for Ed the Disappearer is based on a bogus request given the specific vacuum.

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** Speaking of the vacuum guy, the code to request a pick-up is that you need "a new dust filter for a Hoover Max Extract Pressure Pro, Model 60." That particular appliance is a wet carpet cleaner with a cyclonic vacuum. It doesn’t use a dust filter. Few people (other than a professional vacuum salesman/repairman) would know that it's a bogus request.
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* Despite being supposedly Chilean, Gus seems to have a strong preference for speaking English even when talking to other Spanish speakers. Juan Bolsa comments on this at one point. Considering the DEA can find no records of his existence in Chile, this adds to the speculation about his background. Perhaps Gus was born and raised in another country, moved to Chile, and obtained a new identity with the help of the Pinochet government.
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** Saul explains he simply doesn't know any. It's as simple as that.
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** Of course Lydia could have feigned some elements of her story to keep Mike, who has a granddaughter himself, from killing her. But however this played out in the end, Lydia's daughter would lose a parent. The only other, admittedly far-fetched, outcome could be Lydia being hospitalized by the last minute. This seems like a loophole for the writers as well, because even in [[Film/ElCamino El Camino]] Lydia isn't dead just ''not expected to survive''.

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\n* The pink teddy bear becomes even worse when you realise that [[DeathOfAChild it's unlikely an adult would own it]].
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* Hank beating up Jesse in "One Minute" reflects the worst fear of a DEA officer or any police officer who are assigned on drug task force -- the identities of themselves and their family member being exposed. Having the identities exposed means that cartels members are able to retaliate on those officer who arrested them in the past, and even have their family threaten as a way to blackmail them not to participate in their arrest or coercing them to sabotage the investigation. Fortunately, Jesse is not as harmful or ruthless as other drug dealers in the show.
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*** This is like the "my gramps was the worst pilot in the Luftwaffe" joke.
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** In addition, Walt also takes Saul's criminal network along with him. Without Saul acting as a their middle-man, the career criminals of New Mexico will now have a much harder time finding work.

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** In addition, Walt also takes Saul's criminal network along with him. Without Saul acting as a their middle-man, the career criminals of New Mexico will now have a much harder time finding work.
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\n* Saul's refusal to recommend hitmen for Walt's war against the Nazis might have a heartwarming side to it. At that point, he could just give out some names and take Walt's money for no trouble, but he doesn't. He knows full well that sending anyone to Walt is sending them to certain death. Not only are the Nazis powerful, but they also have men all over the prison network. Even if Walt's men manage to win, being captured by the police in the aftermath is a death sentence. Saul cares about the criminals of New Mexico enough not to let any of them suffer that fate.
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\n* It's a good thing that Walt and Jesse end up being discovered by Tuco while trying to poison him. Have they successfully gone through with their plan, Tuco would have taken at least five days to die. By the time that happens, Jesse and Walt would have been deep in Mexican territory under the control of the Cartel, with no one having any clue as to where they are.

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** In addition, Walt also takes Saul's criminal network along with him. Without Saul acting as a their middle-man anymore, the career criminals of New Mexico will have a much harder time finding work.

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** In addition, Walt also takes Saul's criminal network along with him. Without Saul acting as a their middle-man anymore, middle-man, the career criminals of New Mexico will now have a much harder time finding work.
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** In addition, Walt also takes Saul's criminal network along with him. Without Saul acting as a their middle-man anymore, the career criminals of New Mexico will have a much harder time finding work.

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* Jesse and Skinny Pete's reactions to Combo's death really speak volumes about both men's vastly different backgrounds, and about the subtle psychological effects of a life of crime. Jesse, the relatively privileged White kid who grew up in suburbia, is so devastated by his death that he refuses to leave the house for days, and can't even bring himself to attend Combo's funeral. But when the veteran drug dealer Skinny Pete calls Jesse after the funeral, he excitedly raves about it like it was just another party, even gushing about the impressively large casket that Combo's family paid for. It's a small but telling look at the mindset of a professional drug dealer. People like Combo and Skinny Pete know damn well that their careers come with a low life expectancy, and they live with the possibility of death every day; for many of them, a lavish funeral is the closest thing that they'll ever get to a ''retirement party''.

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* Jesse and Skinny Pete's reactions to Combo's death really speak volumes about both men's vastly different backgrounds, and about the subtle psychological effects of a life of crime. Jesse, the who seems to have been relatively privileged White kid who grew up in suburbia, sheltered as a child, is so devastated by his death that he refuses to leave the house for days, and can't even bring himself to attend Combo's funeral. But when the veteran drug dealer Skinny Pete calls Jesse after the funeral, he excitedly raves about it like it was just another party, even gushing about the impressively large casket that Combo's family paid for. It's a small but telling look at the mindset of a professional drug dealer. People like Combo and Skinny Pete know damn well that their careers come with a low life expectancy, and they live with the possibility of death every day; for many of them, a lavish funeral is the closest thing that they'll ever get to a ''retirement party''.party''.
**It is possible that Combo and Skinny Pete had the same background- this could easily be an illustration of how Jesse likely would have ended up if his previous trajectory continued uninterrupted.





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\n**This may have less to do with race and more to do with Andrea having a history of drug abuse. It also may be the only lead the gang has. It very well could be a race thing in this specific circumstance because the perpetrators are Neo-Nazis, but Andrea being easier to disappear and her death being less likely to be investigated due to her history of addiction would be a factor in deciding who to kill regardless of race. It's also easier to explain away the death or disappearance of a meth cook's girlfriend as opposed to his family- if you're in a relationship with someone in the drug trade you're a lot more likely to be okay with it and possibly involved yourself than their parents.

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* Hank's relentless drive to capture Heisenberg, even attempting to use Skyler and actually using Jesse stems from the fact that it was ''him'' that spurred Walt into being Heisenberg, taking him to that fateful drug bust to show him how everything ends, but which ends up giving him the idea to cook meth to support his family. He realizes that Heisenberg was accidentally his creation as well, and trying to stop him was his redemption for the act.
** And the risk to his career as [=ASAC=] as well, as George Merkert showed in the Season 5A premiere.









* Gus's death has some chilling undertones to it. Like, Walt is lucky the bomb only killed Gus, Hector, and Tyrus. Because watching the explosion, the force of the blast blew down the door and threw it into the hallway. If a caregiver was wheeling a resident down the hall in front of Hector's door at the time of explosion. Or maybe a caregiver came to Hector's door to check on him at the time of the explosion. Anyone in that vicinity would have had a bad day.

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* Gus's death has some chilling undertones to it. Like, Walt is lucky the bomb only killed Gus, Hector, and Tyrus. Because watching the explosion, the force of the blast blew down the door and threw it into the hallway. If a caregiver was wheeling a resident down the hall in front of Hector's door at the time of explosion. Or maybe a caregiver came to Hector's door to check on him at the time of the explosion. Anyone in that vicinity would have had a bad day. No wonder Hank was ''furious'' when he learnt that Walt was Heisenberg.
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* The season two finale has a ''massive'' GeniusBonus: the midair collision is similar to a real-life incident in 1986, when an Aeromexico jet and a private plane flew into each other over Los Angeles. The air traffic controller in the incident: his name was ''Walter White!''.

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* The season two finale has a ''massive'' GeniusBonus: the midair collision is similar to a real-life incident in 1986, when an Aeromexico jet and a private plane flew into each other over Los Angeles. The air traffic controller in the incident: his name was ''Walter White!''.White!''
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** This plot thread and all of the following speculation is addressed in its entirety in [[Film/ElCamino El Camino]].
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* The scene where Huell and Kuby enter Ted Beneke's house. The audience knows that it relates to the money problems, but it is likely that Beneke himself doesn't realise that until they mention Skyler. Thus, when they initially walk in (without his consent) and Huell warns him to do what he's told and Kuby insists on getting Beneke's check book, Beneke probably thinks that a random, bizarre duo of thugs are trying to steal his (considerable) wealth. Which, when one thinks about that, makes an amusing scene even more amusing from the perspective of the audience and more terrifying from the perspective of Beneke.

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* The scene where Huell and Kuby enter Ted Beneke's house. The audience knows that it relates to the money problems, but it is likely that Beneke Ted himself doesn't realise realize that until they mention Skyler. Thus, when they initially walk in (without his consent) and Huell warns him to do what he's told and Kuby insists on getting Beneke's Ted's check book, Beneke Ted probably thinks that a random, bizarre duo of thugs are trying to steal his (considerable) wealth. Which, when one thinks about that, makes an amusing scene even more amusing from the perspective of the audience and more terrifying from Ted's POV.
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play out in a very realistic way, especially in regards to white privilege. One example of this is seen in Todd threatening Jesse's Latina girlfriend as opposed to Jesse's biological and white family in the burbs. The horrifying reality of POC being expendable and killed without justice is a certainty you can bet on, and the deaths of Jesse's family would warrant unwanted attention from the police.

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** Walt’s speech in the school gym might reflect this. We never get an answer for why Walt gives an impromptu speech he memorized a mountain of air crash statistics for. However, notice how desperate he is to downplay the death toll and how much he’s stumbling over his words during it. While Walt can turn on the empathy trigger statements regarding it if need be and is shellshocked by the actual carnage itself, nothing about him ever remotely implies he would care nearly as much about it as he does, certainly not to the point of researching its ranks in the list of air disasters. The most logical explanation is that he looked it up trying to reassure himself that he didn’t do something too horrible, hence his repeated insistence in the speech about how it could have been worse and there are so many worse ones. He’s just trying to ease his guilt over the massacre.
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I don’t think anyone would say nobody idolizes him after it ended.


* Perhaps borders on FridgeHorror, but the show was essentially about turning Mr. Chips into Scarface. As Walt's actions gradually get worse and worse, he keeps giving rationales for said actions. Since Walt started as an EscapistCharacter, the audience probably is too. However, at one point in the series, Walt will cross a line that you would be unwilling to cross. Since the viewer is (presumably) as normal as Walt would be in the beginning, we get to see how far we'd be willing to go to break bad, when we finally see him do an action we would be unwilling to do.

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* Perhaps borders on FridgeHorror, but the show was essentially about turning Mr. Chips into Scarface. As Walt's actions gradually get worse and worse, he keeps giving rationales for said actions. Since Walt started as an EscapistCharacter, the audience probably is too. However, at one point in the series, Walt probably will cross a line that you would be unwilling to cross. Since the viewer is (presumably) as normal as Walt would be in the beginning, we get to see how far we'd be willing to go to break bad, when we finally see him do an action we would be unwilling to do.
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** Swing and a miss. The scene also includes Jesse spiking said lock in rage because they removed it.
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* Heisenberg actually ends up being something of an accidental hero: his actions end up with the collapse of not 1, not 2, but 4 major crime syndicates: The Cartel, Pollos Hermanos, the Arizona Neo-Nazis, and the Blue Sky cook. He arguably did more for the War on Drugs than the DEA, in universe.

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* Heisenberg actually ends up being something of an accidental hero: his actions end up with the collapse of not 1, not 2, but 4 major crime syndicates: The Cartel, Pollos Hermanos, the Arizona Neo-Nazis, and the Blue Sky cook. He arguably did more for the War on Drugs than the DEA, in universe. Not only that, but also more impact on gangs in general than the FBI by taking out an entire state’s worth of non-imprisoned Nazis.
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* Gus's death has some chilling undertones to it. Like, Walt is lucky the bomb only killed Gus, Hector, and Tyrus. 'Cause watching the explosion, the force of the blast blew down the door and threw it into the hallway. If a caregiver was wheeling a resident down the hall in front of Hector's door at the time of explosion. Or maybe a caregiver came to Hector's door to check on him at the time of the explosion. Anyone in that vicinity would have had a bad day.

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* Gus's death has some chilling undertones to it. Like, Walt is lucky the bomb only killed Gus, Hector, and Tyrus. 'Cause Because watching the explosion, the force of the blast blew down the door and threw it into the hallway. If a caregiver was wheeling a resident down the hall in front of Hector's door at the time of explosion. Or maybe a caregiver came to Hector's door to check on him at the time of the explosion. Anyone in that vicinity would have had a bad day.
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* The scene where Huell and Kuby enter Ted Beneke's house. The audience knows that it relates to the money problems, but it is likely that Beneke himself doesn't realise that until they mention Skyler. Thus, when they initially walk in (without his consent) and Huell warns him to do what he's told and Kuby insists on getting Beneke's check book, Beneke probably thinks that a random, bizarre duo of thugs are trying to steal his (considerable) wealth. Which, when one thinks about that, makes an amusing scene even more amusing from the perspective of the audience and more terrifying from the perspective of Beneke.

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* What does Walt build to use against the Neo-Nazis in the finale? A robot, which is a reference to a previous line.

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* What does Walt build to use against the Neo-Nazis in the finale? A robot, which is a reference to a previous line.line in "4 Days Out".


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** It's also the fact that ''Mike is threatening him''. While the two probably wouldn't call each other friends, they've worked together on-and-off since 2002 and are genuinely willing to stick their neck out for each other; see also Mike saving Jimmy's life in the desert with his sniper rifle, then trying to comfort him when he's traumatized (insofar as Mike is capable of comforting someone). The fact that Mike is threatening to hurt him just to get to Walt is when Saul realized that Walt fucked up beyond repair and the only options were to go along with Walt's plan to get Mike away or sell out a client, which he [[EvenEvilHasStandards will never do no matter what]].

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