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** [[spoiler:And for that matter, while everyone else is seen walking/flying/jumping/[[ComicBook/SpiderMan swinging]] through the portals, Sam flies from BEHIND one of them, clearly having already arrived earlier. Well, he contacted Cap literaly ten seconds prior - he clearly had to be nearby, as it's unlikely that communicators made for contact on battlefield would have transcontinental range. In other words, Strange must've sent him ahead to inform Steve about the cavalry. And why did he send him ahead instead of with everyone else (and not several minutes, but SECONDS ahead), aside from [[RuleOfCool obvious]] [[WatsonianVsDoylist Doylist]] [[FiveSecondForeshadowing reasons]]? Well, turns out in-universe reasoning would be pretty similar - having Cap, who for the first time in his live found himself so hopelessly outmatched that he is about to just surrender, suddenly informed that reinforcements are seconds away from arriving would raise his morale far more than said reinforcements sstorming in out of nowhere, and having it storm out of nowhere would seriously confuse him, limiting his abilities as the leader. And Strange [[CrazyPrepared foreseeing and planning ahead for this is]] once again an effect of his future sight.]]
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** [[spoiler:And for that matter, while everyone else is seen walking/flying/jumping/[[ComicBook/SpiderMan swinging]] through the portals, Sam flies from BEHIND one of them, clearly having already arrived earlier. Well, he contacted Cap literaly ten seconds prior - he clearly had to be nearby, as it's unlikely that communicators made for contact on battlefield would have transcontinental range. In other words, Strange must've sent him ahead to inform Steve about the cavalry. And why did he send him ahead instead of with everyone else (and not several minutes, but SECONDS ahead), aside from [[RuleOfCool obvious]] [[WatsonianVsDoylist Doylist]] [[FiveSecondForeshadowing reasons]]? Well, turns out in-universe reasoning would be pretty similar - having Cap, who for the first time in his live found himself so hopelessly outmatched that he is about to just surrender, suddenly informed that reinforcements are seconds away from arriving would raise his morale far more than said reinforcements sstorming storming in out of nowhere, and having it storm out of nowhere would seriously confuse him, limiting his abilities as the leader. And Strange [[CrazyPrepared foreseeing and planning ahead for this is]] once again an effect of his future sight.]]
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* [[spoiler:Steve returned all the stones back to their proper place in the timelines. That means he had to go to Vormir and possibly meet the Red Skull once again...]]
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* [[spoiler:In order to prevent the alternate timeline they use to get the stones back from being distorted, they return the stones back to their previous place. Except they did more to this other timeline than borrow the stones; they knocked out Quill and took Gamora and Nebula out of the timeline, along with Thanos and his forces, which would prevent the formation of the Guardians of the Galaxy; if the Power Stone is returned to its proper place, there wouldn't be anyone to stop Ronan from destroying Xandar and any other planet he deems fit to destroy with it (and, with no Nebula and Gamora, the vital role they played in foiling Ego's plans for Peter wouldn't be fulfilled). They also freed Loki and had no way of tracking him down, which forced them to go back ''earlier'' to get the Space Stone, but nothing says they were able to get him back, which would indicate he never got to undergo his CharacterDevelopment and HeelFaceTurn. Never mind how Loki disappearing with the Space Stone would have effected tensions with the secret HYDRA sect within SHIELD and the Avengers, which would have completely unknown effects on the former's plans or the populace's opinion of Thor. Also, the Asgardian guards would have been preoccupied with chasing after Rocket, during the day that Asgard was to be attacked by Dark Elves; with the guards distracted their attack could have been a ''lot'' worse, and with the Aether no longer within Jane, she'd have ''no'' protection. And, without Thanos, the stones would still be in-play to be used by whomever chooses to seek them out, and who's to say this someone isn't ''far'' worse than Thanos, and without his attack to unite them together again, the Avengers are ''not'' in play to prevent it. All in all, this alternate timeline is ''fucked'']].
** Making matters worse? [[spoiler:Steve's return at the end implies ''its not another timeline'' they messed up, but their own. The paradox this creates is ''terrifying''.]]
* [[spoiler:In order to prevent the alternate timeline they use to get the stones back from being distorted, they return the stones back to their previous place. Except they did more to this other timeline than borrow the stones; they knocked out Quill and took Gamora and Nebula out of the timeline, along with Thanos and his forces, which would prevent the formation of the Guardians of the Galaxy; if the Power Stone is returned to its proper place, there wouldn't be anyone to stop Ronan from destroying Xandar and any other planet he deems fit to destroy with it (and, with no Nebula and Gamora, the vital role they played in foiling Ego's plans for Peter wouldn't be fulfilled). They also freed Loki and had no way of tracking him down, which forced them to go back ''earlier'' to get the Space Stone, but nothing says they were able to get him back, which would indicate he never got to undergo his CharacterDevelopment and HeelFaceTurn. Never mind how Loki disappearing with the Space Stone would have effected tensions with the secret HYDRA sect within SHIELD and the Avengers, which would have completely unknown effects on the former's plans or the populace's opinion of Thor. Also, the Asgardian guards would have been preoccupied with chasing after Rocket, during the day that Asgard was to be attacked by Dark Elves; with the guards distracted their attack could have been a ''lot'' worse, and with the Aether no longer within Jane, she'd have ''no'' protection. And, without Thanos, the stones would still be in-play to be used by whomever chooses to seek them out, and who's to say this someone isn't ''far'' worse than Thanos, and without his attack to unite them together again, the Avengers are ''not'' in play to prevent it. All in all, this alternate timeline is ''fucked'']].
** Making matters worse? [[spoiler:Steve's return at the end implies ''its not another timeline'' they messed up, but their own. The paradox this creates is ''terrifying''.]]
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* [[spoiler:All the people who were brought back by the snap have missed out on five years of the lives of their loved ones; children have grown up, older relatives or friends have died, at least some partners or spouses have probably moved on and met someone else. There's going to be a lot of confusion and heart break.]]
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* [[spoiler:All the people who were brought back by the snap have missed out on five years of the lives of their loved ones; children have grown up, older relatives or friends have died, at least some partners or spouses have probably moved on and met someone else. There's going to be a lot of confusion and heart break.]]
* [[spoiler:Steve returned all the stones back to their proper place in the timelines. That means he had to go to Vormir and possibly meet the Red Skull once again...]]
* [[spoiler:Steve returned all the stones back to their proper place in the timelines. That means he had to go to Vormir and possibly meet the Red Skull once again...]]
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* [[spoiler:All the people who were brought back by the snap have missed out on five years of the lives of their loved ones; children have grown up, older relatives or friends have died, at least some partners or spouses have probably moved on and met someone else. There's going to be a lot of confusion and heart break.]]
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* It’s made explicitly clear that [[spoiler:that everyone who was wiped out after the original snap return in the exact state & location that they left. It’s not made clear what this means for anyone who was in a vehicle when the snap happened - did they return to the vehicle, or where the vehicle was? And if it’s the former, what if the vehicle was destroyed in the intervening time?]]
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* It’s made explicitly clear that [[spoiler:that everyone who was wiped out after the original snap return in the exact state & location that they left. It’s not made clear what this means for anyone who was in a vehicle when the snap happened - did they return to the vehicle, or where the vehicle was? And if it’s the former, what if the vehicle was destroyed in the intervening time?]]time?]]
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* More like Fridge Tearjerker, but Scott is shown on the same board as Peter Parker when Banner is reflecting on the victims. This means two things:
** People just assumed Thanos got to him. If he hadn't (presumably) found his own way out, no one would have come to rescue Scott from the Quantum Realm since they just assumed he was dead.
** Again, as said above, people just assumed he was a victim of the snap. His arrival at the Avengers Base will likely convey some false hope to the team that people who have been snapped may have some easy way back.
* Scott's mannerisms suggest he has no idea what's happened. He's likely going to be in for one hell of an AdultFear moment when [[SleptThroughTheApocalypse he does find out]].
** The van that Scott drives to the doors of the Avengers Compound looks identical to Luis'. We may have just gotten confirmation of another character killed off by the Snap...After all, we never saw who was driving the van in the stinger for ''Ant-man and the Wasp''.
** People just assumed Thanos got to him. If he hadn't (presumably) found his own way out, no one would have come to rescue Scott from the Quantum Realm since they just assumed he was dead.
** Again, as said above, people just assumed he was a victim of the snap. His arrival at the Avengers Base will likely convey some false hope to the team that people who have been snapped may have some easy way back.
* Scott's mannerisms suggest he has no idea what's happened. He's likely going to be in for one hell of an AdultFear moment when [[SleptThroughTheApocalypse he does find out]].
** The van that Scott drives to the doors of the Avengers Compound looks identical to Luis'. We may have just gotten confirmation of another character killed off by the Snap...After all, we never saw who was driving the van in the stinger for ''Ant-man and the Wasp''.
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* More like Fridge Tearjerker, but Scott is shown on the same board as Peter Parker when Banner is reflecting on the victims. This means two things:
** People just assumed Thanos got to him. If he hadn't (presumably) found his own way out, no one would have come to rescue Scott from the Quantum Realm since they just assumed he was dead.
** Again, as said above, people just assumed he was a victim of the snap. His arrival at the Avengers Base will likely convey some false hope to the teamIt’s made explicitly clear that people who have been snapped may have some easy way back.
* Scott's mannerisms suggest he has no idea what's happened. He's likely going to be in for one hell of an AdultFear moment when [[SleptThroughTheApocalypse he does find out]].
** The van that Scott drives to the doors of the Avengers Compound looks identical to Luis'. We may have just gotten confirmation of another character killed off by the Snap...After all, we never saw[[spoiler:that everyone who was driving wiped out after the van original snap return in the stinger exact state & location that they left. It’s not made clear what this means for ''Ant-man and anyone who was in a vehicle when the Wasp''.snap happened - did they return to the vehicle, or where the vehicle was? And if it’s the former, what if the vehicle was destroyed in the intervening time?]]
** People just assumed Thanos got to him. If he hadn't (presumably) found his own way out, no one would have come to rescue Scott from the Quantum Realm since they just assumed he was dead.
** Again, as said above, people just assumed he was a victim of the snap. His arrival at the Avengers Base will likely convey some false hope to the team
* Scott's mannerisms suggest he has no idea what's happened. He's likely going to be in for one hell of an AdultFear moment when [[SleptThroughTheApocalypse he does find out]].
** The van that Scott drives to the doors of the Avengers Compound looks identical to Luis'. We may have just gotten confirmation of another character killed off by the Snap...After all, we never saw
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** [[spoiler:And for that matter, while everyone else is seen walking/flying/jumping/[[ComicBook/SpiderMan swinging]] through the portals, Sam flies from BEHIND one of them, clearly having already arrived earlier. Well, he contacted Cap literaly ten seconds prior - he clearly had to be nearby, as it's unlikely that communicators made for contact on battlefield would have transcontinental range. In other words, Strange must've sent him ahead to inform Steve about the cavalry. And why did he send him ahead instead of with everyone else (and not several minutes, but SECONDS ahead), aside from [[RuleOfCool obvious]] [[WatsonianVsDoylist Doylist]] [[FiveSecondForeshadowing reasons]]? Well, turns out in-universe reasoning would be pretty similar - having Cap, who for the first time in his live found himself so hopelessly outmatched that he is about to just surrender, suddenly informed that reinforcements are seconds away from arriving would raise his morale far more than said reinforcements sstorming in out of nowhere, and having it storm out of nowhere would seriously confuse him, limiting his abilities as the leader. And Strange [[CrazyPrepared foreseeing and planning ahead for this is]] once again an effect of his future sight.]]
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* [[spoiler:Tony is easily the second most paranoid and CrazyPrepared person in the MCU, beaten only by Nick Fury. It makes perfect sense that he'd equip the second Infinity Gauntlet with some sort of countermeasure that would allow him to quickly and easily take it of the hand of whoever is wearing it - which proves vital for his HeroicSacrifice.]]
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* Near the start, [[spoiler:the entire left half of Thanos's body is scorched and burnt, the right being unscathed. One half intact. The other debiliated. Just like his plans of a balanced universe. Thanos's philosophies have now made full manifest, as scars that will last for the entire rest of his life.]]
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* Near the start, beginning, [[spoiler:the entire left half of Thanos's body is scorched and burnt, the right being unscathed. One half intact. The other debiliated. Just like his plans of a balanced universe. Thanos's philosophies have now made full manifest, as scars that will last for the entire rest of his life.]]
** Also early in the movie, [[spoiler:Thanos says he's decided to destroy the Infinity Stones to avoid "temptation". Later, when his past self learns of "his" future accomplishment but also of the Avengers' ongoing attempts to undo it, he's immediately tempted to undergo an even more grandiose scheme. Indeed, the Thanos we loved/hated in ''Infinity War'' knew himself well.]]
** Also early in the movie, [[spoiler:Thanos says he's decided to destroy the Infinity Stones to avoid "temptation". Later, when his past self learns of "his" future accomplishment but also of the Avengers' ongoing attempts to undo it, he's immediately tempted to undergo an even more grandiose scheme. Indeed, the Thanos we loved/hated in ''Infinity War'' knew himself well.]]
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* Near the start, [[spoiler:the entire left half of Thanos's body is scorched and burnt, the right being unscathed. One half intact, tbe other debiliated, just like his plans of a balanced universe. Thanos's philosophies have now made full manifest, as scars that will last for the entire rest of his life.]]
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* Near the start, [[spoiler:the entire left half of Thanos's body is scorched and burnt, the right being unscathed. One half intact, tbe intact. The other debiliated, just debiliated. Just like his plans of a balanced universe. Thanos's philosophies have now made full manifest, as scars that will last for the entire rest of his life.]]
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* Near the start, [[spoiler:the entire left half of Thanos's body is scorched and burnt, the right being unscathed. One half intact, tbe other debiliated, just like his plans of a balanced universe. Thanos's philosophies have now made full manifest, as scars that will last for the entire rest of his life.]]
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* [[spoiler: Steve went back and had that dance with Peggy; it can be assumed he ended up marrying her. If that’s the case who so to say that there has not been a 2nd Steve in the MCU all this time? We never did learn who it was she ended up marrying except for a vague line of Cap having saved his life; maybe that was a cover. Steve might have wanted to leave the timeline alone just in case he made things worse but would be ended up helping her in case any HYDRA higher ups decided to try and get rid of her like they ddI with Howard.]]
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* [[spoiler: Steve went back and had that dance with Peggy; it can be assumed he ended up marrying her. If that’s the case who so to say that there has not been a 2nd Steve in the MCU all this time? We never did learn who it was she ended up marrying except for a vague line of Cap having saved his life; maybe that was a cover. Steve might have wanted to leave the timeline alone just in case he made things worse but would be ended up helping her in case any HYDRA higher ups decided to try and get rid of her like they ddI did with Howard.]]
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* [[spoiler: Steve went back and had that dance with Peggy; it can be assumed he ended up marrying her. If that’s the case who so to say that there has not been a 2nd Steve in the MCU all this time? We never did learn who it was she ended up marrying except for a vague line of Cap having saved his life; maybe that was a cover. Steve might have wanted to leave the timeline alone just in case he made things worse but would be ended up helping her in case any HYDRA higher ups decided to try and get rid of her like they ddI with Howard.]]
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** The van that Scott drives to the doors of the Avengers Compound looks identical to Luis'. We may have just gotten confirmation of another character killed off by the Snap...
*** I think it is where they had the quantum tunnel set up, so it's more likely that Scott, immediately upon escaping the Quantum Realm, and realizing ''something'' had happened to the Pyms, drove to the Avengers compound, the only place he knew he could get help. Whether Cassie, Maggie and Paxton survived or not we cannot know, but we have to assume he assumed Cassie was safe with her mother and stepfather.
*** I think it is where they had the quantum tunnel set up, so it's more likely that Scott, immediately upon escaping the Quantum Realm, and realizing ''something'' had happened to the Pyms, drove to the Avengers compound, the only place he knew he could get help. Whether Cassie, Maggie and Paxton survived or not we cannot know, but we have to assume he assumed Cassie was safe with her mother and stepfather.
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** The van that Scott drives to the doors of the Avengers Compound looks identical to Luis'. We may have just gotten confirmation of another character killed off by the Snap...
*** I think it is where they hadSnap...After all, we never saw who was driving the quantum tunnel set up, so it's more likely that Scott, immediately upon escaping van in the Quantum Realm, stinger for ''Ant-man and realizing ''something'' had happened to the Pyms, drove to the Avengers compound, the only place he knew he could get help. Whether Cassie, Maggie and Paxton survived or not we cannot know, but we have to assume he assumed Cassie was safe with her mother and stepfather.Wasp''.
*** I think it is where they had
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* As [[https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/comments/a40ow9/really_amazing_how_the_beginning_of_the_trailer/ pointed out on Reddit]], Tony's situation is a CallBack to ''Film/IronMan2008'': stuck in an impossible situation and having to think of a way out. For bonus points, he's in practically the same attire, too.
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* As [[https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/comments/a40ow9/really_amazing_how_the_beginning_of_the_trailer/ pointed out on Reddit]], Tony's situation is a CallBack to ''Film/IronMan2008'': ''Film/IronMan1'': stuck in an impossible situation and having to think of a way out. For bonus points, he's in practically the same attire, too.
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* As [[https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/comments/a40ow9/really_amazing_how_the_beginning_of_the_trailer/ pointed out on Reddit]], Tony's situation is a CallBack to ''Film/IronMan2008'': stuck in an impossible situation and having to think of a way out. For bonus points, he's in practically the same attire, too.
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*** I think it is where they had the quantum tunnel set up, so it's more likely that Scott, immediately upon escaping the Quantum Realm, and realizing ''something'' had happened to the Pyms, drove to the Avenegers compound, the only place he knew he could get help. Whether Cassie, Maggie and Paxton survived or not we cannot know, but we have to assume he assume Cassie was safe with her mother and stepfather.
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*** I think it is where they had the quantum tunnel set up, so it's more likely that Scott, immediately upon escaping the Quantum Realm, and realizing ''something'' had happened to the Pyms, drove to the Avenegers Avengers compound, the only place he knew he could get help. Whether Cassie, Maggie and Paxton survived or not we cannot know, but we have to assume he assume assumed Cassie was safe with her mother and stepfather.
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** This also fits with the Russo Brothers saying that the title would be a spoiler - the title "Endgame" spoils that, in Infinity War, most of the pieces on the chessboard were cleared off.
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** The van that Scott drives to the doors of the Avengers Compound looks identical to Luis'. We may have just gotten confirmation of another character killed off by the Snap...
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** The van that Scott drives to the doors of the Avengers Compound looks identical to Luis'. We may have just gotten confirmation of another character killed off by the Snap...Snap...
*** I think it is where they had the quantum tunnel set up, so it's more likely that Scott, immediately upon escaping the Quantum Realm, and realizing ''something'' had happened to the Pyms, drove to the Avenegers compound, the only place he knew he could get help. Whether Cassie, Maggie and Paxton survived or not we cannot know, but we have to assume he assume Cassie was safe with her mother and stepfather.
*** I think it is where they had the quantum tunnel set up, so it's more likely that Scott, immediately upon escaping the Quantum Realm, and realizing ''something'' had happened to the Pyms, drove to the Avenegers compound, the only place he knew he could get help. Whether Cassie, Maggie and Paxton survived or not we cannot know, but we have to assume he assume Cassie was safe with her mother and stepfather.
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** The truck that Scott drives to the doors of the Avengers Compound looks identical to Luis'. We may have just gotten confirmation of character killed off by the Snap...
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** The truck van that Scott drives to the doors of the Avengers Compound looks identical to Luis'. We may have just gotten confirmation of another character killed off by the Snap...
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* Scott's mannerisms suggest he has no idea what's happened. He's likely going to be in for one hell of an AdultFear moment when he does find out.
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* Scott's mannerism suggests he has no idea what's happened. He's likely going to be in for one hell of an AdultFear moment when he does find out.
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** The truck that Scott drives to the doors of the Avengers Compound looks identical to Luis'. We may have just gotten confirmation of character killed off by the Snap...
** The truck that Scott drives to the doors of the Avengers Compound looks identical to Luis'. We may have just gotten confirmation of character killed off by the Snap...
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* The title of endgame makes a lot of sense. It refers to a scenario in chess when very few pieces are left to play with on the board. Which makes sense when you consider that Thanos snapped the world and cleared a lot of heroes. Endgame is also used in chess to refer to a kind of play where a checkmate scenario has been enacted against the opponent's knowledge, and the rest of the play is a denouement where they wait out their inevitable death which could be what Dr. Strange referred to when he told Tony "we're in the endgame now". Also there's the double meaning. The title is endgame and not end. Because there will be more movies after this and more Avengers stuff later. This is simply playacting about endings. It's simply making a game of ending the series and not actually ending it or to quote Marvel Comics' house philosophy since TheSeventies, it's not change, it's the illusion of change.
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* The title of endgame makes a lot of sense. It refers to a scenario in chess when very few pieces are left to play with on the board. Which makes sense when you consider that Thanos snapped the world and cleared a lot of heroes. Endgame is also used in chess to refer to a kind of play where a checkmate scenario has been enacted against the opponent's knowledge, and the rest of the play is a denouement where they wait out their inevitable death which could be what Dr. Strange referred to when he told Tony "we're in the endgame now". Also Also, there's the double meaning. The title is endgame and not end. Because there will be more movies after this and more Avengers stuff later. This is simply playacting about endings. It's simply making a game of ending the series and not actually ending it or to quote Marvel Comics' house philosophy since TheSeventies, it's not change, it's the illusion of change.
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** People just assumed Thanos got to him. If he hadn't (presumably) found his own way out, no one would have come to rescue Scott from the Quantum Realm, since they just assumed he was dead.
** Again, as said above, people just assumed he was a victim of the snap. His arrival at the Avengers Base will likely convey some false hope to the team that people who have been snapped may have some easy way back.
** Again, as said above, people just assumed he was a victim of the snap. His arrival at the Avengers Base will likely convey some false hope to the team that people who have been snapped may have some easy way back.
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** People just assumed Thanos got to him. If he hadn't (presumably) found his own way out, no one would have come to rescue Scott from the Quantum Realm, Realm since they just assumed he was dead.
** Again, as said above, people just assumed he was a victim of the snap. His arrival at the Avengers Base will likely convey some false hope to the team that people who have been snapped may have some easy wayback.back.
* Scott's mannerism suggests he has no idea what's happened. He's likely going to be in for one hell of an AdultFear moment when he does find out.
** Again, as said above, people just assumed he was a victim of the snap. His arrival at the Avengers Base will likely convey some false hope to the team that people who have been snapped may have some easy way
* Scott's mannerism suggests he has no idea what's happened. He's likely going to be in for one hell of an AdultFear moment when he does find out.
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* The title of endgame makes a lot of sense. It refers to a scenario in chess when very few pieces are left to play with on the board. Which makes sense when you consider that Thanos snapped the world and cleared a lot of heroes. Endgame is also used in chess to refer to a kind of play where a checkmate scenario has been enacted against the opponent's knowledge, and the rest of the play is a denouement where they wait out their inevitable death which could be what Dr. Strange referred to when he told Tony "we're in the endgame now". Also there's the double meaning. The title is endgame and not end. Because there will be more movies after this and more Avengers stuff later. This is simply playacting about endings. It's simply making a game of ending the series and not actually ending it or to quote Marvel Comics' house philosophy since TheSeventies, it's not change it' the illusion of change.
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* The title of endgame makes a lot of sense. It refers to a scenario in chess when very few pieces are left to play with on the board. Which makes sense when you consider that Thanos snapped the world and cleared a lot of heroes. Endgame is also used in chess to refer to a kind of play where a checkmate scenario has been enacted against the opponent's knowledge, and the rest of the play is a denouement where they wait out their inevitable death which could be what Dr. Strange referred to when he told Tony "we're in the endgame now". Also there's the double meaning. The title is endgame and not end. Because there will be more movies after this and more Avengers stuff later. This is simply playacting about endings. It's simply making a game of ending the series and not actually ending it or to quote Marvel Comics' house philosophy since TheSeventies, it's not change it' change, it's the illusion of change.
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* The title of endgame makes a lot of sense. It refers to a scenario in chess when very few pieces are left to play with on the board. Which makes sense when you consider that Thanos snapped the world and cleared a lot of heroes. Endgame is also used in chess to refer to a kind of play where a checkmate scenario has been enacted against the opponent's knowledge, and the rest of the play is a denouement where they wait out their inevitable death which could be what Dr. Strange referred to when he told Tony "we're in the endgame now". Also there's the double meaning. The title is endgame and not end. Because there will be more movies after this and more Avengers stuff later. This is simply playacting about endings. It's simply making a game of ending the series and not actually ending it or to quote Marvel Comics' house philosophy since TheSeventies, it's not change it' the illusion of change.
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* The title of endgame makes a lot of sense. It refers to a scenario in chess when very few pieces are left to play with on the board. Which makes sense when you consider that Thanos snapped the world and cleared a lot of heroes. Endgame is also used in chess to refer to a kind of play where a checkmate scenario has been enacted against the opponent's knowledge, and the rest of the play is a denouement where they wait out their inevitable death which could be what Dr. Strange referred to when he told Tony "we're in the endgame now". Also there's the double meaning. The title is endgame and not end. Because there will be more movies after this and more Avengers stuff later. This is simply playacting about endings. It's simply making a game of ending the series and not actually ending it or to quote Marvel Comics' house philosophy since TheSeventies, it's not change it' the illusion of change.change.
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* More like Fridge Tearjerker, but Scott is shown on the same board as Peter Parker when Banner is reflecting on the victims. This means two things:
** People just assumed Thanos got to him. If he hadn't (presumably) found his own way out, no one would have come to rescue Scott from the Quantum Realm, since they just assumed he was dead.
** Again, as said above, people just assumed he was a victim of the snap. His arrival at the Avengers Base will likely convey some false hope to the team that people who have been snapped may have some easy way back.
!!FridgeHorror
* More like Fridge Tearjerker, but Scott is shown on the same board as Peter Parker when Banner is reflecting on the victims. This means two things:
** People just assumed Thanos got to him. If he hadn't (presumably) found his own way out, no one would have come to rescue Scott from the Quantum Realm, since they just assumed he was dead.
** Again, as said above, people just assumed he was a victim of the snap. His arrival at the Avengers Base will likely convey some false hope to the team that people who have been snapped may have some easy way back.
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* The title of endgame makes a lot of sense. It refers to a scenario in chess when very few pieces are left to play with on the board. Which makes sense when you consider that Thanos snapped the world and cleared a lot of heroes. Endgame is also used in chess to refer to a kind of play where a checkmate scenario has been enacted against the opponent's knowledge, and the rest of the play is a denouement where they wait out their inevitable death which could be what Dr. Strange referred to when he told Tony "we're in the endgame now". Also there's the double meaning. The title is endgame and not end. Because there will be more movies after this and more Avengers stuff later. This is simply playacting about endings. It's simply making a game of ending the series and not actually ending it.
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* The title of endgame makes a lot of sense. It refers to a scenario in chess when very few pieces are left to play with on the board. Which makes sense when you consider that Thanos snapped the world and cleared a lot of heroes. Endgame is also used in chess to refer to a kind of play where a checkmate scenario has been enacted against the opponent's knowledge, and the rest of the play is a denouement where they wait out their inevitable death which could be what Dr. Strange referred to when he told Tony "we're in the endgame now". Also there's the double meaning. The title is endgame and not end. Because there will be more movies after this and more Avengers stuff later. This is simply playacting about endings. It's simply making a game of ending the series and not actually ending it.it or to quote Marvel Comics' house philosophy since TheSeventies, it's not change it' the illusion of change.
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!! Fridge Logic
* The title of endgame makes a lot of sense. It refers to a scenario in chess when very few pieces are left to play with on the board. Which makes sense when you consider that Thanos snapped the world and cleared a lot of heroes. Endgame is also used in chess to refer to a kind of play where a checkmate scenario has been enacted against the opponent's knowledge, and the rest of the play is a denouement where they wait out their inevitable death which could be what Dr. Strange referred to when he told Tony "we're in the endgame now". Also there's the double meaning. The title is endgame and not end. Because there will be more movies after this and more Avengers stuff later. This is simply playacting about endings. It's simply making a game of ending the series and not actually ending it.
* The title of endgame makes a lot of sense. It refers to a scenario in chess when very few pieces are left to play with on the board. Which makes sense when you consider that Thanos snapped the world and cleared a lot of heroes. Endgame is also used in chess to refer to a kind of play where a checkmate scenario has been enacted against the opponent's knowledge, and the rest of the play is a denouement where they wait out their inevitable death which could be what Dr. Strange referred to when he told Tony "we're in the endgame now". Also there's the double meaning. The title is endgame and not end. Because there will be more movies after this and more Avengers stuff later. This is simply playacting about endings. It's simply making a game of ending the series and not actually ending it.
