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* This marks the first time in the series when a major city - New York - reappears in a later instance. However, New York in ''Rogue'' is way larger and more detailed than it was ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedIII''. There was the Great Fire which withered the place somewhat, but that does not explain how the entire landmass of the city seems to have shrunk down between the time of Shay's forays and when Connor set foot in it. This is actually perfectly logical, since the cities in the series are not accurate representations of how they were at certain points in history - but how the protagonists ''remember'' them. Connor was only a sporadic visitor, never staying for more than a few days at a time, whereas Shay was born and grew up in it, so no wonder he recalls its every nook and cranny in a way more intricate manner than Connor ever did.
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** You're making a pretty BIG jump to a conclusion in assuming that Achilles' training of Connor never mentioned what had happened with Shay and Haytham. As far as we know, the only thing he was unwilling to talk about to Connor was the name of Connor Davenport, and even then this is only surmise from the cut scenes. What is clear is that Achilles brought Connor as up to speed as possible about the Colonial Templars, their job functions and relationships. Connor further had contact with the Louisiana Brotherhood and therefore (presumably) whatever remained of the Caribbean Brotherhood and those of Europe. Shay was still known to be at large and hunting Assassins in 1776. The idea that Connor would be totally unaware of his existence is pretty far-fetched.
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** You're making a pretty BIG jump to a conclusion in assuming that Achilles' training of Connor never mentioned what had happened with Shay and Haytham. As far as we know, the only thing he was unwilling to talk about to Connor was the name of Connor Davenport, and even then this is only surmise from the cut scenes. What is clear is that Achilles brought Connor as up to speed as possible about the Colonial Templars, their job functions and relationships. Connor further had contact with the Louisiana Brotherhood and therefore (presumably) whatever remained of the Caribbean Brotherhood and those of Europe. Shay was still known to be at large and hunting Assassins in 1776. The idea that Connor would be totally unaware of his existence is pretty far-fetched.
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** Altair's swords serves as Shay's InfinityPlusOneSword for a good reason: he himself called out the Assassins on fighting for freedom while blindly obeying a Mentor. Thus, it is thematically appropriate for Shay to take up his sword.
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* Many people have rightfully called out that ''Rogue'' is more or less similar to ''Black Flag'' because of its presentation and gameplay. However, you're using the same Animus provided by Abstergo, so it's justified in-universe.
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* Shay's outfit (and the Templar outfit from Black Flag it's based off of) is referred to as a Templar uniform, which seems odd considering it's the first we've seen. But if you look at it as a uniform in the same way the Assassin outfits are, it makes sense. Gist and Monro both wear mantles and coats, and [[http://imgur.com/a/tWEP3 many previous Templars]] wear similar style clothing. Templars have mantles like Assassins have hoods!
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* Shay's outfit (and the Templar outfit from Black Flag it's based off of) is referred to as a Templar uniform, which seems odd considering it's the first we've seen. But if you look at it as a uniform in the same way the Assassin outfits are, it makes sense. Gist and Monro both wear mantles and coats, and [[http://a.images.blip.tv/TheNevermoreTales-NJ4KMastersOfTheUniversePartOne656.jpg many previous Templars]] wear similar style clothing. Templars have mantles like Assassins have hoods!

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* Shay's outfit (and the Templar outfit from Black Flag it's based off of) is referred to as a Templar uniform, which seems odd considering it's the first we've seen. But if you look at it as a uniform in the same way the Assassin outfits are, it makes sense. Gist and Monro both wear mantles and coats, and [[http://a.images.blip.tv/TheNevermoreTales-NJ4KMastersOfTheUniversePartOne656.jpg many previous Templars]] wear similar style clothing. Templars have mantles like Assassins have hoods!
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** It gets worse as Shay knows where Connor and the Colonial Assassins live.

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** It gets worse as Shay knows where Connor and the Colonial Assassins live. live[[note]]and it's not confirmed whether the "''Connor''" that writes to Eseosa in 1804 offering training at the Davenport Homestead -- nominally confirming his survival -- is even the real Connor[[/note]].
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* Shay's outfit (and the Templar outfit from Black Flag it's based off of) is referred to as a Templar uniform, which seems odd considering it's the first we've seen. But if you look at it as a uniform in the same way the Assassin outfits are, it makes sense. Gist and Monro both wear mantles and coats, and [[http://a.images.blip.tv/TheNevermoreTales-NJ4KMastersOfTheUniversePartOne656.jpg many previous Templars]] wear similar style clothing. Templars have mantles like Assassins have hoods!
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* Colonel George Monro seems like a really nice guy for a Templar. However, if you look at his actions, they take on a much darker cast. [[spoiler: Colonel Monro fishes Shay out of the ocean, places him with a caring family, and then offers to help him oppose New York City's gangs after arriving too late to back him up. It's awfully ''convenient'', though, that all of these events happen in such quick succession. Furthermore, Colonel Monro never lies to Shay ''precisely'' but conceals the fact the gangs are allied to the Assassins, that Shay is killing Assassins, and that he is a Templar. In retrospect, it's very easy to see this as a ManipulativeBastard attempting to make use of a pet Assassin until he either proves his loyalty or outlives his usefulness.]] May double as FridgeHorror since it works.
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** Personally, I feel that this instance was a CrowningMomentofAwesome! for Shay. He knows that every single one of these Assassin's is fully capable of killing them. He doesn't care, and calls out the Assassin's as the Hypocrites they are.

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** Personally, I feel that this instance was a CrowningMomentofAwesome! for Shay. He knows that every single one of these Assassin's is fully capable of killing them.him. He doesn't care, and calls out the Assassin's as the Hypocrites they are.
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**Personally, I feel that this instance was a CrowningMomentofAwesome! for Shay. He knows that every single one of these Assassin's is fully capable of killing them. He doesn't care, and calls out the Assassin's as the Hypocrites they are.
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* Juhani killing the Templar agent who scares his daughter, at first, seems like he is just being a KnightTemplarParent. However, the action also serves as an excellent test of just how serious Vidic is about his offer.
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* Given the [[spoiler: Lisbon and Haiti Earthquakes]] are the fault of the Assassins, [[spoiler: this means they've probably killed more innocent people than the Templars have until World War 2.]]

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* Given the [[spoiler: Lisbon and Haiti Earthquakes]] are the fault of the Assassins, [[spoiler: this means they've probably killed more innocent people than the Templars have until World War 2.]]
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* [[spoiler: Achilles]] being a broken and defeated shell of a man is something ''you'' did as a player of ''AssassinsCreedRogue.''

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* [[spoiler: Achilles]] being a broken and defeated shell of a man is something ''you'' did as a player of ''AssassinsCreedRogue.''''
* Given the [[spoiler: Lisbon and Haiti Earthquakes]] are the fault of the Assassins, [[spoiler: this means they've probably killed more innocent people than the Templars have until World War 2.]]
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* [[spoiler: Achilles]]being a broken and defeated shell of a man is something ''you'' did as a player of ''AssassinsCreedRogue.''

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* [[spoiler: Achilles]]being Achilles]] being a broken and defeated shell of a man is something ''you'' did as a player of ''AssassinsCreedRogue.''
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** They're also both soldiers and killers for the Templars who worked their way up through the ranks [[spoiler: to a leadership position]].
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* Edward and Shay are foils to one another. Edward was a Welsh pirate who, eventually, decided to become more responsible by joining the Assassins. He started out working for the Templars, however briefly, then spent many years hunting them down for his own selfish purposes. He sought the Observatory for the wealth and power it would give him. Shay is a New York City Irishman turned privateer who had a criminal background but no real aspirations to wealth. He ends up joining the Templars [[spoiler: out of a desire to do good and keep the Pieces of Eden from the hands of the Assassins.]] Gradually, Shay becomes more and more brutal to make sure his goal is reached.

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* Edward and Shay are foils to one another. Edward was a Welsh pirate who, eventually, decided to become more responsible by joining the Assassins. He started out working for the Templars, however briefly, then spent many years hunting them down for his own selfish purposes. He sought the Observatory for the wealth and power it would give him. Shay is a New York City Irishman turned privateer who had a criminal background but no real aspirations to wealth.wealth or respect. He ends up joining the Templars [[spoiler: out of a desire to do good and keep the Pieces of Eden from the hands of the Assassins.]] Gradually, Shay becomes more and more brutal to make sure his goal is reached.
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* Juhani Otso Berg seems peculiarly interested in Shay Cormac's life. If you read his background, though, you'll note Juhani has a lot of PetTheDog moments despite being a Templar. Of course he'd be interested in someone who joined the Templars not for power and wealth but [[spoiler: to protect the innocent.]]

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* Juhani Otso Berg seems peculiarly interested in Shay Cormac's life. If you read his background, though, you'll note Juhani has a lot of PetTheDog moments despite being a Templar. Of course he'd be interested in [[spoiler: someone who joined the Templars not for power and wealth but [[spoiler: but to protect the innocent.]]



* Achilles being a broken and defeated shell of a man is something ''you'' did as a player of ''AssassinsCreedRogue.''

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* Achilles being [[spoiler: Achilles]]being a broken and defeated shell of a man is something ''you'' did as a player of ''AssassinsCreedRogue.''
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* Shay and Connor are mirror images of each other in many ways. Connor is someone tirelessly devoted to destroying the Templars because of moral reasons while Shay is equally devoted to destroying the Assassins for the same. Both of them have personal vendettas but don't let them influence each others' goals but are chiefly devoted to protecting the innocent. Yet, because of their organizations' feud, they'll probably end up trying to kill the other.

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* Shay and Connor are mirror images of each other in many ways. Connor is someone tirelessly devoted to destroying the Templars because of moral reasons while Shay is equally devoted to destroying the Assassins for the same. Both of them have personal vendettas but don't let them influence each others' goals but are chiefly devoted to protecting the innocent. Yet, because of their organizations' feud, they'll probably end up trying to kill the other.other.
* Achilles being a broken and defeated shell of a man is something ''you'' did as a player of ''AssassinsCreedRogue.''
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* Juhani Otso Berg seems peculiarly interested in Shay Cormac's life. If you read his background, though, you'll note Juhani has a lot of PetTheDog moments despite being a Templar. Of course he'd be interested in someone who joined the Templars not for power and wealth but [[spoiler: to protect the innocent.]]
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* Edward and Shay are {{Foils}} to one another. Edward was a Welsh pirate who, eventually, decided to become more responsible by joining the Assassins. He started out working for the Templars, however briefly, then spent many years hunting them down for his own selfish purposes. He sought the Observatory for the wealth and power it would give him. Shay is a New York City Irishman turned privateer who had a criminal background but no real aspirations to wealth. He ends up joining the Templars [[spoiler: out of a desire to do good and keep the Pieces of Eden from the hands of the Assassins.]] Gradually, Shay becomes more and more brutal to make sure his goal is reached.

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* Edward and Shay are {{Foils}} foils to one another. Edward was a Welsh pirate who, eventually, decided to become more responsible by joining the Assassins. He started out working for the Templars, however briefly, then spent many years hunting them down for his own selfish purposes. He sought the Observatory for the wealth and power it would give him. Shay is a New York City Irishman turned privateer who had a criminal background but no real aspirations to wealth. He ends up joining the Templars [[spoiler: out of a desire to do good and keep the Pieces of Eden from the hands of the Assassins.]] Gradually, Shay becomes more and more brutal to make sure his goal is reached.
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* Edward and Shay are {{Foils}} to one another. Edward was a Welsh pirate who, eventually, decided to become more responsible by joining the Assassins. He started out working for the Templars, however briefly, then spent many years hunting them down for his own selfish purposes. He sought the Observatory for the wealth and power it would give him. Shay is a New York City Irishman turned privateer who had a criminal background but no real aspirations to wealth. He ends up joining the Templars [[spoiler: out of a desire to do good and keep the Pieces of Eden from the hands of the Assassins.]] Gradually, Shay becomes more and more brutal to make sure his goal is reached.



* Shay and Connor are mirror images of each other in many respects. Connor is someone tirelessly devoted to destroying the Templars because of moral reasons while Shay is equally devoted to destroying the Assassins for the same. Both of them have personal vendettas but don't let them influence each others' goals but are chiefly devoted to protecting the innocent. Yet, because of their organizations' feud, they'll probably end up trying to kill the other.

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* Shay and Connor are mirror images of each other in many respects.ways. Connor is someone tirelessly devoted to destroying the Templars because of moral reasons while Shay is equally devoted to destroying the Assassins for the same. Both of them have personal vendettas but don't let them influence each others' goals but are chiefly devoted to protecting the innocent. Yet, because of their organizations' feud, they'll probably end up trying to kill the other.

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* Shay and Connor essentially cancel each others' existences out. All of Shay's efforts to stop the Colonial Assassins is undone by Connor's efforts to revive them. However, all of Connor's efforts to prevent the Templars from gaining a foothold in America are pointless because Shay is arguably far more dangerous than Haytham ever was. Worse, with Achilles dead, ''Connor doesn't even know Shay exists, let alone knows where the Colonial Assassins are based.''

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* Shay and Connor essentially cancel each others' existences life's work out. All of Shay's efforts to stop the Colonial Assassins is undone by Connor's efforts to revive them. However, all of Connor's efforts to prevent the Templars from gaining a foothold in America are pointless because Shay is arguably far more dangerous than Haytham ever was. Worse, with Achilles dead, ''Connor doesn't even know Shay exists, let alone exists.''
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* Tied in with AssassinsCreedUnity, the ending has [[spoiler: Shay talk about how the Templars need to start their own revolution.]] Which means that in a backhanded way, the Assassins ''did'' start the French Revolution.

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* Tied in with AssassinsCreedUnity, ''AssassinsCreedUnity'', the ending has [[spoiler: Shay talk about how the Templars need to start their own revolution.]] Which means that in a backhanded way, the Assassins ''did'' start the French Revolution.



* Shay turning against the Assassins is something they, understandably, view as a horrific betrayal. However, the creed is ''Nothing is true, everything is permitted.'' Which, as the Assassins interpret it, is all about finding your own morality rather than letting it be spoon-fed to you. Shay, by rebelling against the Assassins [[spoiler: on moral grounds]], is the truest Assassin of them all.

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* Shay turning against the Assassins is something they, understandably, view as a horrific betrayal. However, the creed is ''Nothing is true, everything is permitted.'' Which, as the Assassins interpret it, is all about finding your own morality rather than letting it be spoon-fed to you. Shay, by rebelling against the Assassins [[spoiler: on moral grounds]], is the truest Assassin of them all.all.

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* Shay and Connor essentially cancel each others' existences out. All of Shay's efforts to stop the Colonial Assassins is undone by Connor's efforts to revive them. However, all of Connor's efforts to prevent the Templars from gaining a foothold in America are pointless because Shay is arguably far more dangerous than Haytham ever was. Worse, with Achilles dead, ''Connor doesn't even know Shay exists, let alone knows where the Colonial Assassins are based.''
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* The entirety of the first sequence, Shay is bringing up objections to the Assassins and their methods. He dislikes the way they support the French against the English while working against the French in Haiti, he dislikes the way they insist on blind obedience despite preaching freedom, he dislikes how the war against the Templars is a ForeverWar with no possibility of negotiation, and feels unclean after murdering a pair of helpless old men ([[YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame which the Assassins all but high-five themselves for after). It makes his subsequent defection ''much'' easier to understand.

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* The entirety of the first sequence, Shay is bringing up objections to the Assassins and their methods. He dislikes the way they support the French against the English while working against the French in Haiti, he dislikes the way they insist on blind obedience despite preaching freedom, he dislikes how the war against the Templars is a ForeverWar with no possibility of negotiation, and feels unclean after murdering a pair of helpless old men ([[YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame which the Assassins all but high-five themselves for after).after]]). It makes his subsequent defection ''much'' easier to understand.
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* The entirety of the first sequence, Shay is bringing up objections to the Assassins and their methods. He dislikes the way they support the French against the English while working against the French in Haiti, he dislikes the way they insist on blind obedience despite preaching freedom, he dislikes how the war against the Templars is a ForeverWar with no possibility of negotiation, and feels unclean after murdering a pair of helpless old men (which the Assassins all but high-five themselves for after). It makes his subsequent defection ''much'' easier to understand.

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* The entirety of the first sequence, Shay is bringing up objections to the Assassins and their methods. He dislikes the way they support the French against the English while working against the French in Haiti, he dislikes the way they insist on blind obedience despite preaching freedom, he dislikes how the war against the Templars is a ForeverWar with no possibility of negotiation, and feels unclean after murdering a pair of helpless old men (which ([[YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame which the Assassins all but high-five themselves for after). It makes his subsequent defection ''much'' easier to understand.
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* Tied in with AssassinsCreedUnity, the ending has [[spoiler: Shay talk about how the Templars need to start their own revolution.]] Which means that in a backhanded way, the Assassins ''did'' start the French Revolution.

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* Tied in with AssassinsCreedUnity, the ending has [[spoiler: Shay talk about how the Templars need to start their own revolution.]] Which means that in a backhanded way, the Assassins ''did'' start the French Revolution.Revolution.
* The entirety of the first sequence, Shay is bringing up objections to the Assassins and their methods. He dislikes the way they support the French against the English while working against the French in Haiti, he dislikes the way they insist on blind obedience despite preaching freedom, he dislikes how the war against the Templars is a ForeverWar with no possibility of negotiation, and feels unclean after murdering a pair of helpless old men (which the Assassins all but high-five themselves for after). It makes his subsequent defection ''much'' easier to understand.
* Shay turning against the Assassins is something they, understandably, view as a horrific betrayal. However, the creed is ''Nothing is true, everything is permitted.'' Which, as the Assassins interpret it, is all about finding your own morality rather than letting it be spoon-fed to you. Shay, by rebelling against the Assassins [[spoiler: on moral grounds]], is the truest Assassin of them all.
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* Tied in with AssassinsCreedUnity, the ending has [[spoiler: Shay talk about how the Templars need to start their own revolution.]] Which means that in a backhanded way, the Assassins ''did'' start the French Revolution.

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