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* SpaceMadness in a meta sense, the thought that actively or passively humanity is being trapped on Earth.

* The level of US Spacecom's duplicity & coverup of the Lima project is of horrifying proportions. We know from the initial briefing by General Stroud Spacecom knew the source of the pulses was the Lima Project. With the vast distance between Earth & Neptune in mind, clearly Spacecom had enough warning to issue an evacuation for its space located people and Earths civilian authorities. Instead , the generals stood aside as a preventable disaster killed over 42,000 people. Many of them Spacecoms own personnel. What's worse is based on news coverage during the moon flight there's still no public awareness of the cause. It is very possible the civilian governments have no idea of the truth. Keeping it this way explains both the draconian measures Spacecom took to hide Major Roy's mission- and why he wasn't prosecuted for the demise of the Cepheus' crew. A trial which unearths these damning facts is the LAST thing Spacecom brass want.

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* SpaceMadness in a meta sense, the thought that actively or passively passively, humanity is being trapped on Earth.

Earth.
* The level of US Spacecom's duplicity & and coverup of the Lima project is of horrifying proportions. We know from the initial briefing by General Stroud that Spacecom knew the source of the pulses was the Lima Project. With the vast distance between Earth & and Neptune in mind, clearly Spacecom had enough warning to issue an evacuation for its space located people and Earths Earth's civilian authorities. Instead , Instead, the generals stood aside as a preventable disaster killed over 42,000 people. Many of them Spacecoms own personnel. What's worse is based on news coverage during the moon flight flight, there's still no public awareness of the cause. It is very possible the civilian governments have no idea of the truth. Keeping it this way explains both the draconian measures Spacecom took to hide Major Roy's mission- mission - and why he wasn't prosecuted for the demise of the Cepheus' crew. A trial which unearths these damning facts is the LAST thing Spacecom brass want.
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* SpaceMadness in a meta sense, the thought that actively or passively humanity is being trapped on earth.

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* We don't see the corpses in the Norwegian ship, nor how Roy disposes of the corpses in his travel to Neptune. We may be reminded of this when we get to see the corpses in Lima station.
** When Roy is sending his message after he starts his voyage to Neptune, the camera spends a few seconds showing the three bodies being ejected from the ship and drifting into space.

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* We don't see the corpses in the Norwegian ship, nor how Roy disposes of the corpses in his travel to Neptune. ship. We may be reminded of this when we get to see the corpses in Lima station.
** When Roy is sending his message after he starts his voyage to Neptune, the camera spends a few seconds showing the three bodies being ejected from the ship and drifting into space.
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The level of US Spacecom’s duplicity & coverup of the Lima project is of horrifying proportions. We know from the initial briefing by General Stroud Spacecom knew the source of the pulses was the Lima Project. With the vast distance between Earth & Neptune in mind, clearly Spacecom had enough warning to issue an evacuation for its space located people and Earths civilian authorities.

Instead , the generals stood aside as a preventable disaster killed over 42,000 people. Many of them Spacecoms own personnel. What’s worse is based on news coverage during the moon flight there’s still no public awareness of the cause. It is very possible the civilian governments have no idea of the truth. Keeping it this way explains both the draconian measures Spacecom took to hide Major Roy’s mission- and why he wasn’t prosecuted for the demise of the Cepheus’ crew. A trial which unearths these damning facts is the LAST thing Spacecom brass want.

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The *The level of US Spacecom’s duplicity & coverup of the Lima project is of horrifying proportions. We know from the initial briefing by General Stroud Spacecom knew the source of the pulses was the Lima Project. With the vast distance between Earth & Neptune in mind, clearly Spacecom had enough warning to issue an evacuation for its space located people and Earths civilian authorities.

authorities. Instead , the generals stood aside as a preventable disaster killed over 42,000 people. Many of them Spacecoms own personnel. What’s worse is based on news coverage during the moon flight there’s still no public awareness of the cause. It is very possible the civilian governments have no idea of the truth. Keeping it this way explains both the draconian measures Spacecom took to hide Major Roy’s mission- and why he wasn’t prosecuted for the demise of the Cepheus’ crew. A trial which unearths these damning facts is the LAST thing Spacecom brass want.
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* The level of US Spacecom’s duplicity & coverup of the Lima project is of horrifying proportions. We know from the initial briefing by General Stroud Spacecom knew the source of the pulses was the Lima Project. With the vast distance between Earth & Neptune in mind, clearly Spacecom had enough warning to issue an evacuation for its space located people and Earths civilian authorities.

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* The level of US Spacecom’s duplicity & coverup of the Lima project is of horrifying proportions. We know from the initial briefing by General Stroud Spacecom knew the source of the pulses was the Lima Project. With the vast distance between Earth & Neptune in mind, clearly Spacecom had enough warning to issue an evacuation for its space located people and Earths civilian authorities.
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*The level of US Spacecom’s duplicity & coverup of the Lima project is of horrifying proportions. We know from the initial briefing by General Stroud Spacecom knew the source of the pulses was the Lima Project. With the vast distance between Earth & Neptune in mind, clearly Spacecom had enough warning to issue an evacuation for its space located people and Earths civilian authorities.

Instead , the generals stood aside as a preventable disaster killed over 42,000 people. Many of them Spacecoms own personnel. What’s worse is based on news coverage during the moon flight there’s still no public awareness of the cause. It is very possible the civilian governments have no idea of the truth. Keeping it this way explains both the draconian measures Spacecom took to hide Major Roy’s mission- and why he wasn’t prosecuted for the demise of the Cepheus’ crew. A trial which unearths these damning facts is the LAST thing Spacecom brass want.

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** If this were the case, it begets the question as to the antimatter's actual purpose. Producing antimatter requires ginormous amounts of energy, and if the Lima has the means to generate this much power on its own, there's precious little that they might need antimatter for. The Lima is, after all, just a glorified listening post parked at the ass-end of the solar system to minimize signal interference from the sun. [[FridgeLogic The longer you think about the antimatter in this film, the less sense it makes]] beyond being a PlotDevice to HandWave the EMP surges.

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** If this were the case, it begets the question as to the antimatter's actual purpose. Producing antimatter requires ginormous amounts of energy, and if the Lima has the means to generate this much power on its own, there's precious little that they might need antimatter for. The Lima is, after all, just a glorified listening post parked at the ass-end of the solar system to minimize signal interference from the sun. [[FridgeLogic The longer you think about the antimatter in this film, the less sense it makes]] beyond being a PlotDevice to HandWave the EMP surges.



!!FridgeLogic
* Luna is stated to be a war zone where everyone and everything is fair game, so why is everyone including the military still driving around in bog-standard civilian rovers that are barely different from what the US brought with them in TheSixties? Deploying vehicles with enclosed cabins would not only allow armor to be attached and make targeting the occupants much more difficult, it would also protect them from the very unhealthy and abrasive lunar dust. Or how about reinforcing and/or protecting the wheels so they can't be totaled by any casual collision? After all, on a lawless battlefield like this where private companies can attack national militaries without repercussions, it's unlikely that there are regulations in place that forbid something so basic.
* [=SpaceCom=] wants to keep Roy away from his father and from the mission because they don't trust him. All they want him on Mars for is to deliver a speech. Why can't he do that from Earth? Even if we assume that for a technical reason Mars is more suited for sending messages to Neptune than Earth is, certainly they could relay a record of him saying the same thing on Earth.
** It's mentioned that the Mars base is underground, making it the only [=SpaceCom=] base that can continue unaffected by the surges. Presumably they just want to make sure that everything about the plan runs as smoothly as possible.
* Lima station was supposed to be very hard to find (since it was lost, and drones have failed to find it) but Roy finds it easily. On the other hand, he may have been lied to about the station being hard to find.
* The restaurants and other shops on the lunar station are all international, massive brands--except for Yoshinoya, which is limited to parts of Japan and the Greater Los Angeles region. Either Yoshinoya expanded in scope between now and when the movie takes place to where they catch up to brands like Subway, or they invested a lot of money relative to their size as a company to get that property up there.

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!!FridgeLogic
* Luna is stated to be a war zone where everyone and everything is fair game, so why is everyone including the military still driving around
%%Fridge Logic goes in bog-standard civilian rovers that are barely different from what the US brought with them in TheSixties? Deploying vehicles with enclosed cabins would not only allow armor to be attached and make targeting the occupants much more difficult, it would also protect them from the very unhealthy and abrasive lunar dust. Or how about reinforcing and/or protecting the wheels so they can't be totaled by any casual collision? After all, on a lawless battlefield like this where private companies can attack national militaries without repercussions, it's unlikely that there are regulations in place that forbid something so basic.
* [=SpaceCom=] wants to keep Roy away from his father and from the mission because they don't trust him. All they want him on Mars for is to deliver a speech. Why can't he do that from Earth? Even if we assume that for a technical reason Mars is more suited for sending messages to Neptune than Earth is, certainly they could relay a record of him saying the same thing on Earth.
** It's mentioned that the Mars base is underground, making it the only [=SpaceCom=] base that can continue unaffected by the surges. Presumably they just want to make sure that everything about the plan runs as smoothly as possible.
* Lima station was supposed to be very hard to find (since it was lost, and drones have failed to find it) but Roy finds it easily. On the other hand, he may have been lied to about the station being hard to find.
* The restaurants and other shops on the lunar station are all international, massive brands--except for Yoshinoya, which is limited to parts of Japan and the Greater Los Angeles region. Either Yoshinoya expanded in scope between now and when the movie takes place to where they catch up to brands like Subway, or they invested a lot of money relative to their size as a company to get that property up there.
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* The restaurants and other shops on the lunar station are all international, massive brands--except for Yoshinoya, which is limited to parts of Japan and the Greater Los Angeles region. Either Yoshinoya expanded in scope between now and when the movie takes place to where they catch up to brands like Subway, or they invested a lot of money relative to their size as a company to get that property up there.

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** It's mentioned that the Mars base is underground, making it the only SpaceCom base that can continue unaffected by the surges. Presumably they just want to make sure that everything about the plan runs smoothly as possible.
* Lima station was supposed to be very hard to find (since it was lost, and drones have failed to find it) but Roy finds it easily. On the other hand he may have been lied to about this station being hard to find.

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** It's mentioned that the Mars base is underground, making it the only SpaceCom [=SpaceCom=] base that can continue unaffected by the surges. Presumably they just want to make sure that everything about the plan runs as smoothly as possible.
* Lima station was supposed to be very hard to find (since it was lost, and drones have failed to find it) but Roy finds it easily. On the other hand hand, he may have been lied to about this the station being hard to find.find.
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** When Roy is sending his message after he starts his voyage to Neptune, the camera spends a few seconds showing the three bodies being ejected from the ship and drifting into space.
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* We don't see the corpses in the Norvegian ship, nor how Roy disposes of the corpses in his travel to Neptune. We may be reminded of this when we get to see the corpses in Lima station.

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* We don't see the corpses in the Norvegian Norwegian ship, nor how Roy disposes of the corpses in his travel to Neptune. We may be reminded of this when we get to see the corpses in Lima station.
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** It's mentioned that the Mars base is underground, making it the only SpaceCom base that can continue unaffected by the surges. Presumably they just want to make sure that everything about the plan runs smoothly as possible.
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* [=SpaceCom=] wants to keep Roy away from his father and from the mission because they don't trust him. All they want him on Mars for is to deliver a speech. Why can't he do that from Earth? Even if we assume that for a technical reason Mars is more suited for sending messages to Neptune than Earth is, certainly they could relay a record of him saying the same thing on Earth.

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* [=SpaceCom=] wants to keep Roy away from his father and from the mission because they don't trust him. All they want him on Mars for is to deliver a speech. Why can't he do that from Earth? Even if we assume that for a technical reason Mars is more suited for sending messages to Neptune than Earth is, certainly they could relay a record of him saying the same thing on Earth.Earth.
* Lima station was supposed to be very hard to find (since it was lost, and drones have failed to find it) but Roy finds it easily. On the other hand he may have been lied to about this station being hard to find.
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* [=SpaceCom=] wants to keep Roy away from his father and from the mission because they don't trust him. All they want him on Mars for is to deliver a speech. Why can't he do that from Earth? Even if we assume that for a technical reason Mars is more suited for that than Earth, certainly they could relay a record of him saying the same thing on Earth.

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* [=SpaceCom=] wants to keep Roy away from his father and from the mission because they don't trust him. All they want him on Mars for is to deliver a speech. Why can't he do that from Earth? Even if we assume that for a technical reason Mars is more suited for that sending messages to Neptune than Earth, Earth is, certainly they could relay a record of him saying the same thing on Earth.
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* Luna is stated to be a war zone where everyone and everything is fair game, so why is everyone including the military still driving around in bog-standard civilian rovers that are barely different from what the US brought with them in TheSixties? Deploying vehicles with enclosed cabins would not only allow armor to be attached and make targeting the occupants much more difficult, it would also protect them from the very unhealthy and abrasive lunar dust. Or how about reinforcing and/or protecting the wheels so they can't be totaled by any casual collision? After all, on a lawless battlefield like this where private companies can attack national militaries without repercussions, it's unlikely that there are regulations in place that forbid something so basic.

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* Luna is stated to be a war zone where everyone and everything is fair game, so why is everyone including the military still driving around in bog-standard civilian rovers that are barely different from what the US brought with them in TheSixties? Deploying vehicles with enclosed cabins would not only allow armor to be attached and make targeting the occupants much more difficult, it would also protect them from the very unhealthy and abrasive lunar dust. Or how about reinforcing and/or protecting the wheels so they can't be totaled by any casual collision? After all, on a lawless battlefield like this where private companies can attack national militaries without repercussions, it's unlikely that there are regulations in place that forbid something so basic.basic.
* [=SpaceCom=] wants to keep Roy away from his father and from the mission because they don't trust him. All they want him on Mars for is to deliver a speech. Why can't he do that from Earth? Even if we assume that for a technical reason Mars is more suited for that than Earth, certainly they could relay a record of him saying the same thing on Earth.
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* We don't see the corpses in the Norvegian ship, nor how Roy disposes of the corpses in his travel to Neptune. We may be reminded of this when we get to see the corpses in Lima station.

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** If this were the case, it begets the question as to the antimatter's actual purpose. Producing antimatter requires ginormous amounts of energy, and if the Lima has the means to generate this much power on its own, there's precious little that they might need antimatter for. The Lima is, after all, just a glorified listening post parked at the ass-end of the solar system to minimize signal interference from the sun. [[FridgeLogic The longer you think about the antimatter in this film, the less sense it makes]] beyond being a PlotDevice to HandWave the EMP surges.
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No clue about Solar system wide EM Ps though

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!!FridgeBrilliance
* Lima's use of antimatter makes some kind of sense when a device labeled "antimatter catalyst" is shown. Rather than relying on earth for such materials some kind of reactor was developed to make the station relatively self sufficient.
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* Luna is stated to be a war zone where everyone and everything is fair game, so why is everyone including the military still driving around in bog-standard civilian rovers that are barely different from what the US brought with them in TheSixties? Deploying vehicles with enclosed cabins would not only allow armor to be attached and make targeting the occupants much more difficult, it would also protect them from the very unhealthy and abrasive lunar dust. Or how about reinforcing and/or protecting the wheels so they can't be totaled by any casual collision?

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* Luna is stated to be a war zone where everyone and everything is fair game, so why is everyone including the military still driving around in bog-standard civilian rovers that are barely different from what the US brought with them in TheSixties? Deploying vehicles with enclosed cabins would not only allow armor to be attached and make targeting the occupants much more difficult, it would also protect them from the very unhealthy and abrasive lunar dust. Or how about reinforcing and/or protecting the wheels so they can't be totaled by any casual collision?collision? After all, on a lawless battlefield like this where private companies can attack national militaries without repercussions, it's unlikely that there are regulations in place that forbid something so basic.
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!!FridgeLogic
* Luna is stated to be a war zone where everyone and everything is fair game, so why is everyone including the military still driving around in bog-standard civilian rovers that are barely different from what the US brought with them in TheSixties? Deploying vehicles with enclosed cabins would not only allow armor to be attached and make targeting the occupants much more difficult, it would also protect them from the very unhealthy and abrasive lunar dust. Or how about reinforcing and/or protecting the wheels so they can't be totaled by any casual collision?

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