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** The Beagle Boys started out as worthy opponents of Scrooge who in Carl Barks-stories and the early Italian stories seemed competent enough as thiefes to outright terrify Scrooge and seen as real threats to his wealth. Their plans to get the money were also quite creative. Nonetheless they are always defeated by Scrooge and fail in their plans. In more recent comics they lost that threatening more and more thanks to constantly failing and are taken less serious by Scrooge. They also star in their own comics as [[VillainProtagonist Villain Protagonists]] where they often enough are portrayed as incompetent losers who can't even afford the simpliest kind of crimes.

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** The Beagle Boys started out as worthy opponents of Scrooge who in Carl Barks-stories and the early Italian stories seemed competent enough as thiefes thieves to outright terrify Scrooge and seen as real threats to his wealth. Their plans to get the money were also quite creative. Nonetheless they are always defeated by Scrooge and fail in their plans. In more recent comics they lost that threatening more and more thanks to constantly failing and are taken less serious by Scrooge. They also star in their own comics as [[VillainProtagonist Villain Protagonists]] where they often enough are portrayed as incompetent losers who can't even afford the simpliest simplest kind of crimes.



* In his first appearances in the comics, Grouchy Smurf from ''Franchise/TheSmurfs'' was perfectly capable of carrying on a normal conversation, even with his grouchy attitude. Over time, though, his Mad Libs Catch Phrase of "I hate (...)" became more and more prominent in his dialogue, and by the time the cartoon came around, almost all of Grouchy's dialogue was based solely around declaring his hatred for whatever the others were talking about at the time.

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* In his first appearances in the comics, Grouchy Smurf from ''Franchise/TheSmurfs'' was perfectly capable of carrying on a normal conversation, even with his grouchy attitude. Over time, though, his Mad Libs Catch Phrase MadLibsCatchPhrase of "I hate (...)" became more and more prominent in his dialogue, and by the time the cartoon came around, almost all of Grouchy's dialogue was based solely around declaring his hatred for whatever the others were talking about at the time.



** [[VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog2006 Silver the Hedgehog]] is cranked up of his stupidity from the original game's appearance as this time he starts accusing ''everybody'' in Freedom Fighters one by one as a traitor at the drop of a hat. It gets so ridiculous not only Sonic stops taking him seriously, but starts hating his guts because the guy's accusing people who [[DudeNotFunny happens to recently get injured, leave the team, or be mind controlled.]]
** Shadow deserves a mention, the calm and pragmatic anti hero he was in games, has increased his pride and lack of hindsight in the comic series. Feels he constantly has to prove himself as the ultimate and gets mocked for his no nonsense attitude due to the comic making light on his serious methods towards threats. He always gets into situations in harsh and reckless ways especially against powerful enemies like Scourge or ADAM biting off more than he can chew. He goes into a [[BerserkButton roaring rampage of revenge]] when he loses to those same threats and his pride crushed making him more a sore loser.
* ComicBook/{{Tintin}}: the Dupont's, ([[DubNameChange Thomson's]] in the English version) while still subject to quite a bit of slapstick they where also shown to be quite competent in their earlier appearances (including successfully busting Tintin out of jail at one point, if [[InspectorJavert only so they could arrest him themselves]]). Their competence slowly started decreasing as the comics went along though, while their ComicRelief status was played up more and more, going as far that you actually wonder how the hell they still have their jobs in later albums.
* Creator/AlanMoore's ''ComicBook/TopTen'' has [[ShockAndAwe Shock Headed Peter]] who comes off at first as simply a prejudiced working class cop who actually has some character depth to a 2-D {{Straw|Character}} [[FantasticRacism Robo-Racist]] when a Robot character gets introduced to Precinct 10.

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** [[VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog2006 Silver the Hedgehog]] is cranked up of has his stupidity cranked up from the original game's appearance game as this time he starts accusing ''everybody'' in Freedom Fighters one by one as a traitor at the drop of a hat. It gets so ridiculous not only Sonic stops taking him seriously, but starts hating his guts because the guy's accusing people who [[DudeNotFunny happens to recently get injured, leave the team, or be mind controlled.]]
** Shadow deserves a mention, mention. While still somewhat the calm and pragmatic anti hero he was in the games, has he's increased his pride and lack of hindsight in the comic series. Feels hindsight. He feels he constantly has to prove himself as the ultimate and gets mocked for his no nonsense attitude due to the comic making light on his serious methods towards threats. He always gets into situations in harsh and reckless ways especially against powerful enemies like Scourge or ADAM biting off more than he can chew. He goes into a [[BerserkButton roaring rampage of revenge]] when he loses to those same threats and his pride crushed pride making him more a sore loser.
* ComicBook/{{Tintin}}: the The Dupont's, ([[DubNameChange Thomson's]] in the English version) while still subject to quite a bit of slapstick they where slapstick, were also shown to be quite competent in their earlier appearances (including including successfully busting Tintin out of jail at one point, if [[InspectorJavert only so they could arrest him themselves]]). themselves]]. Their competence slowly started decreasing as the comics went along though, while their ComicRelief ComedicReliefCharacters status was played up more and more, going as far that you actually wonder how the hell they still have their jobs in later albums.
* Creator/AlanMoore's ''ComicBook/TopTen'' has [[ShockAndAwe Shock Headed Peter]] who comes off at first as simply a prejudiced working class cop who actually has some character depth to a 2-D {{Straw|Character}} [[FantasticRacism Robo-Racist]] when a Robot robot character gets introduced to Precinct 10.
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* ''ComicBook/LuckyLuke'': Jolly Jumper, while capable of some impressive feats, was actually just a normal horse during the early comics and drawn as [[http://forbiddenplanet.blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/IMG_00024.jpg such]]. His intelligence got more and more played up once Creator/ReneGoscinny took over the writing, eventually leading to him being given a much more [[https://i.pinimg.com/736x/af/06/59/af06594c05778071fd1268d9921177db--lucky-luke-memorie.jpg cartoony]] look, capable of [[TalkingAnimal Animal speech]] and feats no normal horse should be capable of.

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* ''ComicBook/LuckyLuke'': Jolly Jumper, while capable of some impressive feats, was actually just a normal horse during the early comics and drawn as [[http://forbiddenplanet.blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/IMG_00024.jpg such]]. His intelligence got more and more played up once Creator/ReneGoscinny took over the writing, writing (leaving Creator/{{Morris}} more free to do drawings), eventually leading to him being given a much more [[https://i.pinimg.com/736x/af/06/59/af06594c05778071fd1268d9921177db--lucky-luke-memorie.jpg cartoony]] look, capable of [[TalkingAnimal Animal speech]] and feats no normal horse should be capable of.
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** The Beagle Boys started out as worthy opponents of Scrooge who in Carl Barks-stories and the early Italian stories seemed competent enough as thiefes to outright terrify Scrooge and seen as real threats to his wealth. Their plans to get the money were also quite creative. Nonetheless they are always defeated by Scrooge and fail in their plans. In more recent comics they lost that threatening more and more thanks to constantly failing and are taken less serious by Scrooge. They also star in their own comics as [[VillainProtagonist Villain Protagonists]] where often enough are portrayed as incompetent losers who can't even afford the simpliest kind of crimes.

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** The Beagle Boys started out as worthy opponents of Scrooge who in Carl Barks-stories and the early Italian stories seemed competent enough as thiefes to outright terrify Scrooge and seen as real threats to his wealth. Their plans to get the money were also quite creative. Nonetheless they are always defeated by Scrooge and fail in their plans. In more recent comics they lost that threatening more and more thanks to constantly failing and are taken less serious by Scrooge. They also star in their own comics as [[VillainProtagonist Villain Protagonists]] where they often enough are portrayed as incompetent losers who can't even afford the simpliest kind of crimes.

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** The dime itself also went through a sort of Flanderization. In the original story with Magica the dime had no initial magic powers. Magica just needed it as a spell component. Later writers seem to have missed this point and decided that the dime was somehow the source of Scrooge's wealth. In some stories, Scrooge can lose the dime over simple theft and suddenly his entire empire is crumbling.
Creator/DonRosa [[TakeThat mocks this]] in the GrandFinale of ''Comicbook/TheLifeAndTimesOfScroogeMcDuck'', where the Flanderization [[LeaningOnTheFourthWall extends to rumors in-universe]]. Scrooge finds the idea that he owes his entire fortune to a lucky charm (which he had for ''twenty years'' before he even started to make his fortune!) incredibly insulting. That said, Rosa's take on the characters has also that Magica's spell would indeed work should she get her hands on the coin, and that losing the dime would indeed cause Scrooge to lose such spirit that he'd be no match for his enemies.

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** The dime itself also went through a sort of Flanderization. In the original story with Magica the dime had no initial magic powers. Magica just needed it as a spell component. Later writers seem to have missed this point and decided that the dime was somehow the source of Scrooge's wealth. In some stories, Scrooge can lose the dime over simple theft and suddenly his entire empire is crumbling. \n Creator/DonRosa [[TakeThat mocks this]] in the GrandFinale of ''Comicbook/TheLifeAndTimesOfScroogeMcDuck'', where the Flanderization [[LeaningOnTheFourthWall extends to rumors in-universe]]. Scrooge finds the idea that he owes his entire fortune to a lucky charm (which he had for ''twenty years'' before he even started to make his fortune!) incredibly insulting. That said, Rosa's take on the characters has also that Magica's spell would indeed work should she get her hands on the coin, and that losing the dime would indeed cause Scrooge to lose such spirit that he'd be no match for his enemies.

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* WesternAnimation/DonaldDuck and Scrooge's portrayal in early Italian-produced comics exaggerated their character traits from the American comic of the time to comical extremes. Donald became a narcoleptic with a complete aversion to any kind of physical work and so dumb he genuinely believed two plus two equaled five point five, who treated his nephews more like slaves than family. Scrooge on the other hand was stunningly violent and cruel towards absolutely everyone, with zero aversions towards outright criminal acts (one story mentioning he made a lot of his fortune from running an opium smuggling cartel), usually getting away with anything and everything purely because he was rich. The characters would eventually morph back into something more closely resembling their America counterparts.
* Magica [=DeSpell=]'s obsession with Scrooge [=McDuck=]'s NumberOneDime. Though her introduction does have her focused on attempting to steal it, other Creator/CarlBarks stories usually had Magica simply wanting to become rich, and would often have her working on schemes completely unrelated to the dime. Nowadays, she's completely psychotic about that coin, and you rarely, if ever, see a Magica story without it as her prime goal anymore. The dime itself also went through a sort of Flanderization. In the original story with Magica the dime had no initial magic powers. Magica just needed it as a spell component. Later writers seem to have missed this point and decided that the dime was somehow the source of Scrooge's wealth. In some stories, Scrooge can lose the dime over simple theft and suddenly his entire empire is crumbling. Creator/DonRosa [[TakeThat mocks this]] in the GrandFinale of ''Comicbook/TheLifeAndTimesOfScroogeMcDuck'', where the Flanderization [[LeaningOnTheFourthWall extends to rumors in-universe]]. Scrooge finds the idea that he owes his entire fortune to a lucky charm (which he had for ''twenty years'' before he even started to make his fortune!) incredibly insulting. That said, Rosa's take on the characters has also that Magica's spell would indeed work should she get her hands on the coin, and that losing the dime would indeed cause Scrooge to lose such spirit that he'd be no match for his enemies.

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WesternAnimation/DonaldDuck and Scrooge's portrayal in early Italian-produced comics exaggerated their character traits from the American comic of the time to comical extremes. Donald became a narcoleptic with a complete aversion to any kind of physical work and so dumb he genuinely believed two plus two equaled five point five, who treated his nephews more like slaves than family. Scrooge on the other hand was stunningly violent and cruel towards absolutely everyone, with zero aversions towards outright criminal acts (one story mentioning he made a lot of his fortune from running an opium smuggling cartel), usually getting away with anything and everything purely because he was rich. The characters would eventually morph back into something more closely resembling their America counterparts.
* ** Magica [=DeSpell=]'s obsession with Scrooge [=McDuck=]'s NumberOneDime. Though her introduction does have her focused on attempting to steal it, other Creator/CarlBarks stories usually had Magica simply wanting to become rich, and would often have her working on schemes completely unrelated to the dime. Nowadays, she's completely psychotic about that coin, and you rarely, if ever, see a Magica story without it as her prime goal anymore.
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The dime itself also went through a sort of Flanderization. In the original story with Magica the dime had no initial magic powers. Magica just needed it as a spell component. Later writers seem to have missed this point and decided that the dime was somehow the source of Scrooge's wealth. In some stories, Scrooge can lose the dime over simple theft and suddenly his entire empire is crumbling.
Creator/DonRosa [[TakeThat mocks this]] in the GrandFinale of ''Comicbook/TheLifeAndTimesOfScroogeMcDuck'', where the Flanderization [[LeaningOnTheFourthWall extends to rumors in-universe]]. Scrooge finds the idea that he owes his entire fortune to a lucky charm (which he had for ''twenty years'' before he even started to make his fortune!) incredibly insulting. That said, Rosa's take on the characters has also that Magica's spell would indeed work should she get her hands on the coin, and that losing the dime would indeed cause Scrooge to lose such spirit that he'd be no match for his enemies.
** The Beagle Boys started out as worthy opponents of Scrooge who in Carl Barks-stories and the early Italian stories seemed competent enough as thiefes to outright terrify Scrooge and seen as real threats to his wealth. Their plans to get the money were also quite creative. Nonetheless they are always defeated by Scrooge and fail in their plans. In more recent comics they lost that threatening more and more thanks to constantly failing and are taken less serious by Scrooge. They also star in their own comics as [[VillainProtagonist Villain Protagonists]] where often enough are portrayed as incompetent losers who can't even afford the simpliest kind of crimes.
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** Sonic's attitude has been cranked UpToEleven, to the point where he's making wisecracks during a battle with Enerjak, a being with seemingly limitless energy (though this may have been more for comic relief than anything, it was a tad excessive). [[Administrivia/TropesAreTools To be fair]], though, it seems to have slightly boosted his badassness--at the cost of emotion (again, though, to be fair, he never really showed much emotion anyway). The part about emotion is slowly being subverted as of #200; ever since Sonic's apparently driven Robotnik totally, droolingly insane, he seems to actually regret having broken down the guy so completely.

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** Sonic's attitude has been cranked UpToEleven, up, to the point where he's making wisecracks during a battle with Enerjak, a being with seemingly limitless energy (though this may have been more for comic relief than anything, it was a tad excessive). [[Administrivia/TropesAreTools To be fair]], though, it seems to have slightly boosted his badassness--at the cost of emotion (again, though, to be fair, he never really showed much emotion anyway). The part about emotion is slowly being subverted as of #200; ever since Sonic's apparently driven Robotnik totally, droolingly insane, he seems to actually regret having broken down the guy so completely.
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* ''ComicBook/{{Crossed}}'': For the first half of the ''Wish You Were Here'' storyline (an arc taking up four paperback volumes) Don is a PragmaticHero whose fairly competent but a bit slimy and visibly pleased with being in charge. By the end of volume three his obsession with power is about his only character trait and he's willing to go to war with a much larger faction and take a baby hostage just to avoid having his group members abandon him. Likewise, Elisa starts out as a simple ActionGirl who doesn't shy away from combat due to it providing a distraction. Then, in volume two, Elisa is portrayed as more eager to take the fight to the [[TechnicallyLivingZombie Crossed]] but arguably more focused on matters of security and the good of the group. By the third volume she's a flat-out BloodKnight, seemingly identical in personality to Des (whose established as a BloodKnight who acts as if he has nothing else to live for from the start): displaying apparent horror at the idea of a life with no more fighting.

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* ''ComicBook/{{Crossed}}'': For the first half of the ''Wish You Were Here'' storyline (an arc taking up four paperback volumes) Don is a PragmaticHero whose fairly competent but a bit slimy and visibly pleased with being in charge. By the end of volume three his obsession with power is about his only character trait and he's willing to go to war with a much larger faction and take a baby hostage just to avoid having his group members abandon him. losing any authority. Likewise, Elisa starts out as a simple ActionGirl who doesn't shy away from combat due to it providing a distraction.distraction from the CrapsackWorld. Then, in volume two, Elisa is portrayed as more eager to take the fight to the [[TechnicallyLivingZombie Crossed]] but arguably more focused on matters of security and the good of the group. By the third volume she's a flat-out BloodKnight, seemingly identical in personality to Des (whose established as a BloodKnight who acts as if he has living for almost nothing else to live for but violence) from the start): displaying start) and displays apparent horror at the idea of a life with no more fighting.
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* ComicBook/AmandaWaller was introduced as a tough, no-nonsense woman whose standoffish demeanor hid a lot of trauma and guilt. While she did morally dubious things, she was also willing to put her career on the line for the Comicbook/SuicideSquad and defy the U.S. government when they went against her moral compass. These days she's depicted as a sociopath with a WeHaveReserves mentality toward the Squad and a MyCountryRightOrWrong attitude.
* [[Franchise/{{Batman}} Bruce Wayne]] was originally depicted as merely [[RichIdiotWithNoDayJob Comfortably Well-Off]]. Now, he's one of the two richest men in Franchise/TheDCU. Batman himself has become increasingly ultra-competent and infallible in the past few decades. One could argue the flanderization of Batman was necessary to keep him interesting in the context of the Justice League. He's one of the few characters without a true super power, so the question of why they keep him around (aside from maybe his money) needs answering. Having him be the greatest strategist in existence gives him a purpose and even a reason for being one of the guys in charge.
** He's also portrayed as the "brooding loner" of the Justice League. This is despite the fact that the "Bat-family" has more members than Superman's friends and allies, two of the five Comicbook/{{Robin}}s have led the Comicbook/TeenTitans, one of those two also led ComicBook/YoungJustice, the other is considered the most trustworthy man in the hero community, and Comicbook/{{Oracle}} acts as the MissionControl. He is a close friend of a lot of superheroes as well, and he managed to be something of a father to [[ComicBook/{{Batgirl 2000}} Cassandra]] [[BrokenBird Cain]].
*** Parodied in ''Lego DC Comics: Batman Be-leaguered'', when he refuses Superman's invitation to join the nascent Justice League. When Alfred asks him about it, he responds with a dramatic rant about how he works alone, only to be interrupted by Robin, Nightwing, and Batgirl slurping the drinks Alfred made for them too loudly.
** In 1983, Batman quit the Franchise/{{Justice League|of America}} and created a new team called the Outsiders after Superman saying he would not lead the League in saving Lucius Fox from being a hostage in a far away country for diplomatic reasons, and this lead to a dynamic within the DC Multiverse wherein Batman would be portrayed as a maverick and Superman a boy scout. While they patched things up later that year, 1986's ''ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns'' (which took place in a possible future) made Batman the ultimate outlaw anti-hero, and Superman a tool for the UsefulNotes/RonaldReagan of every political cartoon of the '80s. In the revised DC Universe, DC ran with this dynamic of Superman and Batman being at odds for about a decade before it just kind-of ran out of steam, though the ''Batman/Superman'' title and other Comicbook/{{New 52}} material revisited it.
** Killer Croc was originally a somewhat intelligent gangster with a medical condition (a ''very severe'' medical condition), whose misanthropy was the result of being tormented by everyone (family included) for his freakish appearance. This was eventually downplayed, with Croc becoming more bestial and less intelligent as time went on (this was typically explained that his condition was worsening, further separating him from humanity). By the time of ''Hush'', Croc could probably pass for a bulkier AlternateCompanyEquivalent of [[Characters/SpiderManCentralRoguesGallery the Lizard]] (explained away by Hush infecting him with a virus that further increased his mutation).
** To a lesser extent, Stephanie Brown started off as a somewhat cynical and troubled girl with low self esteem who was also fairly snarky and a little quirky, but through character development she learnt to let go of her troubles and focus on the positives, but was still constantly facing painful troubles. [[ComicBook/{{Batgirl 2009}} By the time she became the new Batgirl]], though, she became known as 'the fun one' of the Bat family, being full of hope regardless of what the family faces. In a case of [[Administrivia/TropesAreTools Tropes Are Not Bad]], most fans generally ''like'' this move, and enjoy the fact it makes Steph stand out among the OFTEN troubled and angsty members of the Bat Family.
** Similarly, [[ComicBook/RobinSeries Tim Drake]] started off as a normal teenager who happened to also be a fairly gifted detective, and was naturally skilled in crime fighting despite being 14. As things went on, he became TheSmartGuy of not just the Bat Family, but also the entirety of the teenaged population of the DCU, smart enough to research ''cloning'' technology that, while it didn't pan out, was said that he was only a year or so away from successfully cloning Superboy and Impulse according to the Titans Tomorrow story arc (and not just real life 'start as a baby' cloning, but actually recreate them, memories and all). He also became ''far'' more nerdy, to the point he's massively neurotic and over-analyses everything. And, inverting Steph, while he started off as a realist, he was also rather idealistic, but slowly his life became so filled with hell that he broke down until he was as broody as Batman himself. Like Steph, many fans ''like'' this about [[TheWoobie Timmy]], but a lot of people really don't, as he became popular ''because'' he was the most relatable Robin.
** ComicBook/TheJoker has gone through this. Originally he was just a very wily criminal whose modus operandi was little more than "shits and giggles". Then came the Dark Age of comic books, and all of a sudden the Joker is the Yin to Batman's Yang, with just about every story over the last 20-plus years being about his feud with the Caped Crusader. You'd be hard-pressed to find a story involving the Joker committing a crime that ''wasn't'' meant to be an attack on Batman, the one exception being his corruption of Harley Quinn. In the ComicBook/{{New 52}}, the Joker's clown aspect has been dropped completely and his characterization can be summed up as "Batman's Arch Nemesis". This was ultimately explained with the revelation that there wasn't ''one'' Joker. There were ''three.''
** Speaking of which, Harley Quinn. While always a bit ditzy, over time she's become a GenkiGirl who's nearly as insane as the Joker. Meanwhile, her attire has become increasingly {{Stripperiffic}} to match the PerverseSexualLust her fanbase has towards her. It's to the point that works like ''Gods and Monsters'' and ''Batman: White Knight'' will poke fun at how different the character is from what she started as. In addition to her progressively skimpier outfits sexuality in general began to consume her character more and more as time went on, initially having SingleTargetSexuality for The Joker, then developing a close friendship with Comicbook/PoisonIvy with some subtle [[HoYay/{{Batman}} LesYay]], then she began to have mild mostly one sided FoeYay with Batman until finally to coincide with her {{Stripperiffic}} appearance she became a bisexual nyphomaiac who's almost incapable of talking about anything other than sex.
** Killer Moth ''suffered'' because of this trope. When he first appeared, Killer Moth was more or less the EvilCounterpart of Batman, despite his bright, gaudy costume. An evil criminal mastermind that everyone turned to for help, he was quite the threat. Then ComicBook/{{Batgirl}} showed up. They needed someone to show that Batgirl was a worthy addition to the Bat-Family and chose Moth as the target. However, being beaten by an untrained beginner vigilante who only showed up because of sheer circumstance turned Moth into the laughingstock of the Bat-Rogues almost ''immediately.'' Suddenly, Killer Moth went from "Batman's equal" to "pathetic nobody". They tried to salvage his character in the 90s by trying to turn him into a FromNobodyToNightmare by transforming him into Charaxes during ''ComicBook/UnderworldUnleashed'', but it didn't stick, ultimately being killed by Superboy-Prime in ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis''. Even other adaptations such as ''WesternAnimation/TheBatman'' and ''[[VideoGame/LEGOAdaptationGame LEGO Batman 3]]'' wouldn't be kind to him.
** Jim Gordon when he became Batman. So y'know how 90% of the time Jim is okay with vigilantes who don't kill? How he's worked with Batman for years and is actually ''friendly'' with him, as well as the other Batfamily members? And how he only frowns on vigilantes who kill or go too far? Well when he's Batman, he hates all vigilantes in Gotham because he's a cop. Heck, "cop" is his defining trait, and actually the only noticeable one aside from the typical "I have to be Batman my own way" shtick that ''every'' Batman successor goes through. Though in ''Batgirl'', he purposefully short-circuited the suit briefly to talk to Batgirl (who he doesn't know is his daughter), and quietly says that he doesn't want to hunt vigilantes down, but it's his job, so it's best if she gets off the streets before he has to chase her down.
** While [[Comicbook/RedHood Jason Todd]]'s pre-Flashpoint self used guns as a means to an end, the New 52 and Rebirth version seems to be [[GunNut obsessed with them]], flashing them out in every instance, whether he's looking to kill or not. This is usually accompanied by him either narrating that he's using rubber bullets or taking nonlethal shots, or by loudly boasting about all the upgrades he's made to his guns. Furthermore, his grudge against Batman has devolved from opposition to his nonlethal philosophy on fighting crime, to desperately seeking out [[WellDoneSonGuy his approval]]. As of Rebirth, this attitude has extended towards Nightwing as well.
** Speaking of [[ComicBook/{{Nightwing}} Richard "Dick" Grayson]], his ChickMagnet and MrFanservice status has been exaggerated more and more over the course of the years.
** In the last few years, [[ComicBook/Batgirl2000 Cassandra Cain]] went from an outsider with an AmbiguousDisorder and a good deal of emotional issues, to a childish girl who's lonely and sad all of the time.
** Also in recent years, Bruce's tendency to mistreat other members of his family when under severe emotional stress. This goes as far back as Jason Todd's death back in the eighties, but it never got 'out of hand', so to speak. He never did anything that was completely unforgivable, and there were always plenty of heartwarming moments to set-off anything that seemed too cruel, proving that Bruce ''did'' care. These days, you get stuff like beating the hell out of Dick Grayson after he was exposed as Nightwing to essentially force him to go FakingTheDead (and not telling a single other member of the family) so he can do an undercover mission -- and that was after Damian's death, someone that both Bruce ''and'' Dick were still heavily mourning at the time. Then there was the time he nearly beat Jason ''to death'' after Jason shot the Penguin; no matter what Jason did, it didn't warrant that kind of brutality, and became especially HarsherInHindsight after it was revealed that Jason hadn't intended to kill Penguin at all. Why did he do that? [[DisproportionateRetribution Because Selina left him at the altar]]. Now he's gone from mere mistreatment to flat-out abuse, landing him solidly in DesignatedHero territory and making many fans wonder why the rest of the Bat-Family sticks by him at all, especially when he never apologizes for anything he's done.
* ComicBook/BoosterGold started as a well-meaning hero whose love of money often got him in over his head. Over the course of the '80s and '90s, writers forgot about the "well-meaning" part and turned him into a money-grubbing jerk. Thankfully, over the course of ''Comicbook/InfiniteCrisis'' and ''ComicBook/FiftyTwo'' in the mid-'00s, DC built Booster back up, and now he's a genuine hero again--though the lure of fame and fortune still ''occasionally'' tempt him. Even better, he now ''intentionally'' acts like that, so [[SecretKeeper no-one except Batman and Superman]] realises that he's grown into a competent hero in his own right, whilst he roams the timestream protecting history from enemies who — if they ever saw past his foolish reputation and realized he was the one foiling their schemes — would not only kill him but do it in such a way that Booster Gold never existed. So now instead of promoting himself, Booster must do everything in his power to make people think he's an inept idiot, in order to carry out his mission to defend time itself. Even before 52, some writers had started pointing out that there was more to Booster Gold than met the eye. At one point one of the other heroes muses that, being from the future, Booster must have been aware that Doomsday was a monster that was fully capable of killing Superman. And he still stepped up and took the first actual punch Doomsday aimed at a hero on his personal forcefield, to protect another member of the League. Both this acknowledgement and the moment itself hint that some people never completely forgot that Booster was kind of badass.
* Hey, has Dr. Light told you how much he likes [[MoralEventHorizon rape]] [[http://livingbetweenwednesdays.blogspot.com/2006/11/can-we-talk-about-something-else.html lately]]? "It's like it's his power now." It finally got to the point where [[EvenEvilHasStandards other villains refused to work with him]] and Comicbook/TheSpectre turned him into a candle and lit him on fire -- as he was about to do some nasty things to hookers ''dressed as the ComicBook/TeenTitans''.

* ''Franchise/GreenLantern'': The Guardians Of The Universe have always been distant and aloof, but were once wise and respected, having created [[SpacePolice an organization of star-patrolling peacekeepers]] that has survived for eons. With each passing year though, they become more incompetent, single-minded, and corrupt, lying to their members, holding their own mysterious agendas, and constantly having their mistakes blow up in the faces and inevitably needing to be saved by the Earth Lanterns (and then clearly resenting the aid). One comic even had a Guardian admit he didn't remember why they started the Corp in the first place. By this point, it's a genuine curiosity how they got an organization as advanced and well-functioning as the Green Lanterns working outside of dumb luck.
* Most mainstays of the Giffen-era Comicbook/JusticeLeagueInternational suffered heavy Flanderization; that was sort of [[RuleOfFunny the whole point of the books.]]
** A notable aversion occurs with, of all people, [[Franchise/GreenLantern Guy Gardner]]. Giffen and [=DeMatteis=] were concerned with how much Flanderization had already occurred with the character, who initially was more intelligent than Hal Jordan, but by the time of joining the JLI was mostly famous as a JerkAss with severe brain damage. A punch from Franchise/{{Batman}} sends Guy into an alternate, hyper-sensitive persona, [[spoiler: eventually revealed to be a total con, as Guy enjoyed screwing with his teammates. His girlfriend, Ice, sees through it]].
** In a surprising [[SelfDeprecation Take That, Me!]] moment, the original writing team actually addressed their Flanderization in the [[ReunionShow reunion mini-series]] ''[[Comicbook/SuperBuddies Formerly Known as the Justice League]]''. In one of the more memorable moments, ComicBook/BlueBeetle actually calls out ComicBook/BoosterGold by [[TookALevelInDumbass claiming that he used to be competent and heroic before joining the JLI]], and accuses him of acting stupid and childish on purpose.
* The [[Franchise/JusticeLeagueOfAmerica Justice League]] in general occasionally suffers this problem. The heroes in their own books have multi-faceted personalities, while Justice League in the hands of sloppy writers reduces them to their most stereotypical natures, such as Batman being completely unfeeling and methodical, or Franchise/{{Superman}}'s "boy scout" persona. This is in part because each character was originally TheHero in their own titles. They weren't developed with a group dynamic in mind so some of their key character development has also come from them playing off of each other in the team books.
* Comicbook/{{Starfire}} of ''Comicbook/TeenTitans'' fame was a sexually liberated and emotionally open alien who celebrated free will, expression of love, and monogamous relationships. In ''Comicbook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws'', she's a nymphomaniac with no memory or cognition, and is frequently used as [[MsFanservice titillation]].
* ''Franchise/{{Superman}}'':
** Originally, Superman was something of a tough guy tackling (literally) wife beaters, war profiteers and abusive orphanages. By the end of the forties, however, he was the leading citizen of Metropolis, battling larger-than-life villains.
** Also when he was first introduced, he was a real scrapper and not afraid to get in the face of authority figures. That changed around UsefulNotes/WorldWarII along with Batman, however by the end of the fifties, he was flanderized into the ultimate boy scout and establishment figure. By the '70s, he'd become somewhat more morally ambiguous and a bit more cynical about people in power.
** ComicBook/{{Supergirl}} started off as a sweetheart with quite a temper if pushed and a snarky side. Then [[ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths she got killed]] and writers and fans got into their heads the notion that she was a saccharine-sweet, ever-smiling girl who never, ever, talked against her cousin (which flies in the face of her character development throughout the Pre-Crisis period). In order to (over)compensate for this, [[ComicBook/Supergirl2005 subsequent]] [[ComicBook/Supergirl2011 reboots]] amped up her hotheadness and hotbloodedness to the point [[ComicBook/RedDaughterOfKrypton she was turned into a Red Lantern]] and became "Miss Rage Issues" to the fandom's eyes.
** Brainiac 5 from the ''ComicBook/{{Legion Of Super-Heroes}}'' is an utterly brilliant genius with limited social skills. He might be impatient and rude, but he clearly cared for his teammates and people on the whole. Throughout several decades and reboots "may be an obnoxious jerkass sometimes" somehow devolved into "is an unbearable smug jerkass who can hardly stand his own teammates", and modern Legion writers appear to have a hard time remembering he's a hero.
** Originally ''ComicBook/PowerGirl'' had a mischievous side, flirty side. Her New 52 version appeared in ''Worlds' Finest'' has little characterization other than "extremely lewd and man-hungry".
** Cat Grant was introduced as sort of a GoodBadGirl BrokenBird. Someone who had a bit of an immoral past that she was trying to move beyond, and was looking for a good man like Clark Kent to be her anchor. Nowadays she's portrayed as a LovableSexManiac at best and just ReallyGetsAround at worst. It's been mentioned that this is a facade Cat is using because of the pain of losing her son so many years ago.
** During the earliest stories of his series, Superman's Pal ComicBook/JimmyOlsen, in spite of being somewhat naive and cocky, was a competent detective and Pintsized Powerhouse who might get a head start on beating up the bad guys before Superman got there and who, if captured, often found some way to alert Superman with or without his signal watch. As the stories progressed, he became more and more The Load.
* ''Franchise/WonderWoman'': Wonder Woman's willingness to kill got this when the New 52 reboot happened. Before she was willing to kill, but only in extreme circumstances where she had literally no other choice. In the New 52, DC cranked this up to ridiculous degrees, with her casually killing villains she fights and actually ''gloating'' about doing so to another superhero. This has had the effect of making it hard to believe that she would ever be made part of the Justice League, let alone allowed to continue operating; all of the other heroes retained [[ThouShaltNotKill their beliefs in no-killing]] or only killing when necessary.
* ''ComicBook/WonderWoman1942'':
** Once Kanigher's main story and Wonder Woman was based on Earth-One he started exaggerating the Amazons' weaknesses on Earth-Two, meant to house the original Wondy. While in the original tales an Amazon having their bracelets welded together by a man drained their Amazon super strength they were still stronger than human with Diana having snapped such chains with her own strength on numerous occasions, just with a bit more effort, Kanigher has Diana becoming faint and not having the strength to even walk upright when her bracelets are welded by a man.
** Kanigher's Earth-Two Etta had all of her character stripped away so that she was just a plump lady who is constantly eating candy, rather than a tough prankster who loved a good fist fight who just so happened to be overweight and like sweets.

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* Hank Pym (aka ComicBook/AntMan) has suffered from this perhaps more than any other Marvel character. During a single incident in which he was suffering nervous breakdown and had just completed building a robot programmed to kill all of his his friends, [[NeverLiveItDown/ComicBooks Hank struck his wife]], Janet Van Dyne (ComicBook/TheWasp). This immediately had the effect of establishing him in canon both as a wife-beater and severely mentally ill. Dozens of writers over the years have gone back to this time and again, with at least three different stories having been told about the two of them coming to terms with what happened. Hank's remorse is so Flanderized and extreme that he called ''himself'' the Wasp when [[DeathIsCheap she was thought to be dead]].
** This carries over even to alternate version of the character. The Ultimate Universe version of Pym was written as a cruel sadist who tortures his wife nearly to death and stole all of his ideas from her.
** As of ''ComicBook/SecretEmpire'', Hank [[spoiler: after having merged with Ultron]], finally snaps and calls out the then 'Captain HYDRA' Steve and the AI version of Tony Stark for all the stuff that they've pulled which, especially in Tony's case (Steve was morally flipped against his will), makes the incident with Janet, awful as it was, look like a playground scuffle. He has a point, unfortunately.
* During the first ongoing ''ComicBook/{{Deadpool}}'' series and in ''ComicBook/CableAndDeadpool'', Deadpool was a talkative loon full of bad jokes and other wackiness. However, he was also portrayed as a total psychotic with a loose, at best, grasp of sanity. All the wackiness was a cover to hide his immense mental problems and self-loathing and just the slightest nudge could send him over the edge in a violent, unsettling rage. Most subsequent writers pretty much ignore the latter part and play him up as little more than a goofy comedy character. His [[Administrivia/TropesAreTools popularity skyrocketed]] after his flanderization and his flanderized version became his more iconic and well-recognized version. It helps that Marvel already has characters to fill the [[Franchise/{{Wolverine}} Canadian with Rage Issues, Regenerating Healing Powers, and a convoluted backstory complicated by Swiss-Cheese Memory]], and [[Franchise/SpiderMan a flamboyant joke-cracker in a red costume, whose snark covers up his inner angst]] roles. After Deadpool's flanderized "wacky all the time" shtick got stale with many fans, the Duggen[=/=]Posehn run achieved acclaim for its CharacterRerailment.
* ''Comicbook/FantasticFour'':
** [[Comicbook/HumanTorch Johnny Storm]] started off as a somewhat-conceited daredevil hero of the team[[note]]It's been joked that while the battle cry of the Avengers is "Avengers assemble!", that of the Fantastic Four is arguably "[[LeeroyJenkins Johnny, wait]]!"[[/note]]. Since the eighties, he's become increasingly more stupid and narcissistic, to the point where he now appears to be a [[TheDitz ditzy]], AmbiguouslyGay metrosexual completely in love with himself.
** [[Comicbook/MisterFantastic Reed Richards]] was originally a tad eccentric and rather emotionally stunted, but was Flanderized in the late 1990s/2000s into a borderline savant who doesn't understand human social behavior. This pretty much is part and parcel of Reed's slow derailment from a many-layered, infamously trope-defying character into a generic scientific supergenius strawman. Perhaps most tellingly, Reed was originally written as a veteran of UsefulNotes/WorldWarII before ComicBookTime forced the writers to cut that detail from his backstory. After 40 years of intense {{Flanderization}}, though, it's practically unthinkable that the current comics' pencil-necked nerd would have ever even ''considered'' serving in the Army, let alone that he would ever have fought in Nazi-occupied France in the Big One.
** Inverted with Comicbook/TheThing: in his earliest appearances, he was a complete {{jerkass}} who was constantly picking fights with not only Johnny, but Reed, and had no use for people whom he felt were judging him. Later on, he was portrayed as more of a tough guy with a heart of gold.
** Subverted with Comicbook/InvisibleWoman who was originally called the Invisible Girl, and useless in a fight. She gained the ability to create force-fields, became a more competent fighter, took on the name Invisible Woman (after all, Iceman and Spider-Man were supposed to be teenagers but never referred to as "boys") and has sometimes served as a more competent leader especially during such time as Reed was away.
* [[Comicbook/IncredibleHulk The Hulk's]] raw power has been exaggerated to the point that he might as well just be a [[Anime/DragonBallZ Super Saiyan.]] In his first appearance Hulk was perfectly capable of fluent speech and clear-minded reasoning. Over the years the "dumb" part of DumbMuscle got amplified along with the "muscle", until we reach the iconic "HULK SMASH!" levels. Then, Creator/PeterDavid got the idea of explaining this as two different facets of Bruce Banner's fractured mind manifesting in different types of Hulk. How his level of strength tends to be inversely proportional to his intelligence has been explained by that his ability to reason tends to put limits to how much pure rage he can build up. An alternate universe supervillain, the Maestro, was even created out of the idea of "what if the Hulk stopped caring about holding back, then lived for a hundred years?"
** Contemporary Marvel writers have some fun with this when time-travel shenanigans bring later characters in contact with early Silver Age Hulk. Heroes (and villains) expecting the monosyllabic rage-monster are shocked to meet a gruff, clever Hulk who is functionally equivalent to a stronger, tougher, more devious Ben Grimm.
* ComicBook/IronMan used to be a fairly well-rounded character, being not only a super hero, but also a captain of industry, a millionaire playboy, a bit of a womanizer, a technological genius and - rather uniquely - physically crippled from his inception. He also had a bout with alcoholism. During Comicbook/CivilWar, he got flanderized into a stubborn pseudo-fascist who'd just as soon throw his best friends in jail if they did not fall in line with the SuperHumanRegistrationAct. He had not ''nearly'' recovered from the fan-impact of that when Matt Fraction took him on an entirely different flanderization trip by reducing ''all'' his issues to side effects of alcoholism, but at least he made him be sorry for his behaviour during Civil War. Now, it seems Tony Stark spends approximately half the time agonizing about how badly he sucks. His characterization later got better during Kieron Gillen's run as Iron Man took some days off and went to a vacation in space, as has taken a more carefree approach to his life. Also, like Bruce Wayne in the DCU, Tony Stark seems to have gone from "guy with a few million bucks" to "probably the richest man in the Marvel Universe".
* ComicBook/NormanOsborn started off as a corrupt businessman who had a loving, but strained relationship with his son; he had one of his colleagues arrested with fake charges and he genuinely thought giving Harry expensive stuff was enough to keep him happy. Even his motive as the Goblin was simple: he wanted to become a crime boss to see if he could, [[MotiveDecay which later warped into a desire to kill Spider-Man]] for always stopping him. When Spidey found out who the Goblin was, he asked Norman if Harry would be proud of him, which caused Norman to lose his composure and led to his defeat and amnesia. When Harry's depression led to his famous drug problem, Norman's inability to understand his son led him to believe Harry's friends were behind it, which caused a panic attack powerful enough to bring back his memories of the goblin -- every time he thought about Harry suffering, he himself suffered a mental breakdown. [[DeathIsCheap Then Norman died, and was brought back decades later]]. During this time he was supposedly a crime boss in Europe, was the mastermind behind ''ComicBook/TheCloneSaga'' and had developed a dislike for his son, to the point he was willing to kill him without any real reason to do so. Nowadays his villainy consists of trying to take over the world, mass murder, spreading the goblin formula through manhattan to cause chaos, and has even been bonded with Carnage and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking plastic surgery has turned his face]] into [[EvilMakesYouUgly a mess]]. He is also implied to hate every minority -- [[StrawMisogynist most famously women]] -- under the sun, and it's even been noted that Norman Osborn is now worse than the Goblin ever was.
* ''ComicBook/{{Runaways}}'' has suffered a few cases of this over the years:
** In the second series, Nico Minoru struggled to adjust to leadership, and the stress of trying to lead a team that had deliberately been designed to be dysfunctional caused her to do rash things like kiss Chase or make a deal with her evil ancestor to gain more control over her powers. When the third series came around, the writers made her increasingly Machiavellian, willing to use magic on her own teammates to control them. On the other hand, after ''ComicBook/AvengersArena'', in which Nico lost her arm and developed PTSD, writers began moving in the opposite direction, with her constantly doubting herself.
** In the first two series, Molly was childish, as one might expect from an 11-year-old, but also intelligent, often managing to outwit other people. Around the time of the third series, the "intelligent" part went away and she simply became childish.
** Klara's [[FishOutOfTemporalWater unfamiliarity with modern culture]] has been exaggerated to the point where she once mistook Tigra for a prostitute. Over the years, she has also gradually transformed from a mostly-sane little girl who had trouble reconciling her religious beliefs with the reality of her life to a dangerously mentally-ill CreepyChild.
* ''ComicBook/TheUltimates'' have been criticized for being an extreme Flanderization of the Avengers. In their initial run, Creator/MarkMillar tended to take the most famous aspects of each Avenger -- ComicBook/{{Cap|tainAmerica}} being of the '40s, [[Comicbook/IronMan Tony]]'s hedonism, [[ComicBook/AntMan Pym]] slapping Janet, [[ComicBook/TheWasp Jan]] being slapped by Pym, [[Comicbook/IncredibleHulk Hulk]]'s rage, etc. -- and amplified them all several times over: Cap was painfully old-fashioned in speech and social views, Tony was always drinking and/or flirting with some blonde, Pym was a textbook wife-beater, Jan was a textbook battered wife, and Hulk was a murdering cannibal. This went into overdrive when Creator/JephLoeb took over the third volume. Tony was always in a drunken stupor and Cap spontaneously picked fights over [[ComicBook/ScarletWitch Wanda]]'s choice of attire.
* The {{Comicbook/Venom}} symbiotes that most often show up in connection to [[Franchise/SpiderMan Spider-Man]] have been established as having a vulnerability to fire and sonic attacks. When the latter was first used, it required a sonic emitter built by Reed Richards for this specific purpose. Over time this vulnerability has been exaggerated to the point that any loud noise can repel a symbiote. As for fire, at its worst the mere presence of a single lit lighter has been able to drive a symbiote away.
* Comicbook/XMen:
** Franchise/{{Wolverine}} is a case study. During the [[TheEighties '80s]] considerable CharacterDevelopment evolved the character from a one-note {{Jerkass}} prone to UnstoppableRage to a wise, intelligent, multitalented, and skilled warrior/mentor. Then he [[PopularityPower got popular]] and the LowestCommonDenominator of Captain Fuzzity [=McStabStab=] won out [[WolverinePublicity with all the guest-shots]] even as they ramped his HealingFactor to UpToEleven. [[EnsembleDarkhorse And he's still the most popular character of the whole franchise]]. Because being badass is the ''only'' thing he seems to need. And while his edges seem to have been smoothed in the ''X-Men'' comics, buzz has it as of SDCC '13 that they're going to do a major story where his killing tendencies threaten his place in the Avengers.\\\
Even his powers became flanderized. At first, the idea behind his "quick healing factor" (note the word "quick") seemed to be that he simply healed faster than normal people. By some point, it was decreed that he could regenerate from a single-celled organism and was basically unkillable and therefore immortal.\\\
Under writer Jason Aaron, another example has occurred. While Logan always had kind of a rivalry with Comicbook/{{Cyclops}}, the two are friends and can agree on some things, and Logan ''does'' respect Scott. Furthermore, while Logan ''is'' a Jerkass, he's willing to admit when he's wrong. Under the aforementioned writer, Logan's Jerkass tendencies have become his dominant trait, with him mouthing off about why Cyke sucks literally every time the two meet, and he outright ignores anything good the guy does.
** [[Characters/NewXMenAcademyX Surge]], whose Jerkass tendencies have been blown way out of proportion. While she was initially depicted as being kind of a JerkAss, it's understandable (she was disowned by her father for being a mutant and was a bum who had to take drugs to sort-of control her powers), she was always more of a JerkWithAHeartOfGold and she was always kind to those she considered friends. While she was always an outspoken, rebellious smart ass, her later depictions make her much harder to sympathise with as she has been portrayed as an unrelenting bitch and it has become her most dominant characteristic. She has since entered ComicBookLimbo, though her brief appearance in ''ComicBook/AvengersAcademy'' had her being more reasonable, and had her revert to her old portrayal of JerkWithAHeartOfGold.
** [[Characters/XMenMojoverse Mojo]] was introduced in a miniseries as a psychotic EldritchAbomination obsessed whose very presence actually caused living things to wither and die and who casually committed MindRape. He also commissioned genetically-engineered slaves to act in movies to entertain him. Even Comicbook/DoctorStrange feared what would happen if he stayed on Earth for long. As soon as he was brought into the main X-Men comics, the mystical powers and murderous demeanor were downplayed and the media obsession was turned UpToEleven, so Mojo immediately became a comedic villain used to spoof the entertainment industry. He's still pretty damn horrible, though, and his comedic personality makes it worse when he does something like torturing Nocturne ForTheEvulz, or cheerfully sending someone to ''have their spine freaking removed''.
** Wolverine's daughter/sister/OppositeSexClone, ComicBook/{{X 23}} suffers from much of the same treatment as he does. Once her [[ComicBook/InnocenceLost backstory]] was revealed, Laura was established as a highly-skilled fighter, and a [[GeniusBruiser very intelligent]] and [[BadassBookworm highly educated]] young girl with extensive assassin and black ops training, while ''[[ComicBook/NewXMenAcademyX New X-Men]]'' expanded upon this further by revealing her to be a gifted strategist as well. Most writers now completely ignore everything after "highly-skilled fighter," and give her all the subtlety in combat of LeeroyJenkins. This is most egregious in ''ComicBook/AvengersArena'', where the writers give lipservice to her training and AwesomenessByAnalysis, and ''still'' have her decide the best strategy for taking down Apex (who is controlling a ''Sentinel'') is a [[IdiotBall direct frontal assault]]. Even the trigger scent has been subject to this. Initially, the conditioning the Facility subjected Laura to resulted in her rages focusing specifically on whatever was marked by the scent. By the time her solo series and ''Avengers Arena'' rolled around, the scent was now sending her after ''everything in sight''.
** ComicBook/{{Beast|MarvelComics}}, a bit of a DumbJock in his early appearances, has become more frequently characterized by SesquipedalianLoquaciousness and a handful of catchphrases.
** ComicBook/{{Cyclops}} has suffered this himself over the years. He was always a little aloof and had some trouble socializing with those around him, he even had trouble telling Jean Grey, the woman he loved, how he felt even after they hooked up, and he was always under a ton of pressure that some times caused him to chew people out, but he was always had the best intentions for those around him and just wanted to keep his friends and loved ones safe as they fought for a better world. And then some very, very, ''very'' bad stories happened to him and as time went by more and more writers - and fans - came to see him as just being "that insanely repressed jerk who isn't Wolverine." Some writers do remember to give him positive traits from time to time though.
*** One of the [[AuthorsSavingThrow chief gains]] of ''ComicBook/AllNewXMen'', which brings the original team of X-Men into the future to stay with time travel, is that Teen Cyclops is a version of the character with both flaws and things working for him instead of a few redeeming qualities that very occasionally shine through an irrationally militant mindset, and who hasn't alienated most of the X-Men to some degree by being a total hardass.
** Considering how often Cyclops and Havok end up fighting one another, they sometimes get Flanderized into being locked in an eternal CainAndAbel, being unable to abide one another at the best of times and one of them being a super-villain (usually Havok) at worst. This portrayal appears in the Ultimate, Legends, and Misfits universes, where (unlike their 616 counterparts) they don't need the influence of any psychic brainwashing to bait them into fighting.
** A number of writers sadly only ever saw ComicBook/JeanGrey as either the Phoenix or "that cute girl [[LoveTriangle Cyclops and Wolverine fight over]]." Jean Grey's reputation as the person who [[FirstLawOfResurrection resurrects frequently]] has been further exaggerated, with ''Phoenix – Endsong'' demonstrating multiple deaths and resurrections over a few pages, further lampshaded in ''Deadly Genesis'', when Scott and Logan react to the possibility of her resurrection in the same panel. In ''[[ComicBook/AdjectivelessXMen X-Men]]'' vol 4, the possibility of Jean Grey resurrecting was further discussed when her DNA became a plot point in the creation of a host for Madelyne Pryor.
** ComicBook/MisterSinister is an interesting case. Originally introduced by Creator/ChrisClaremont as something of an evil cipher, little was known about Sinister other than that he was a MadScientist and that he was obsessed with Cyclops for some reason. Claremont had originally planned for a long, drawn-out reveal (in his [[KudzuPlot usual style]]) that would have established Sinister as an 8 year old boy with the mutant power of aging very, very slowly -- as in, he was already over 100 years old when he was in the orphanage with Scott despite his body still being 8 -- using the Sinister persona as a front. Claremont's abrupt departure shelved this plan, and so a new origin story was created for Sinister, one in which he was a scientist from Victorian England granted power and immortality by perennial X-Men BigBad ComicBook/{{Apocalypse}}.. This new origin story portrayed him as something of a TragicVillain, and most of the stories of the time followed suit to greater or lesser degrees. But beginning with 2002's ''Weapon X'' a new interpretation for Sinister was introduced, one which hewed closer to the Claremontian Mad Scientist but also cranked his evil quotient UpToEleven by making him an {{Expy}} of infamous Nazi scientist Josef Mengele. Since that time Sinister's become increasingly more affiliated with the Nazi regime, increasingly more [[NaziNobleman Nazi-like in general]], and increasingly more prone to playing the PoliticallyIncorrectVillain.
** ComicBook/JimmyHudson started in ''ComicBook/UltimateXMen'' as the son of Wolverine, he had WolverineClaws and a healing factor, but other than that he had his own personality, in many aspects in contrast with that of Wolverine. The comic played with this, balancing between the similarities and the divergences. The ComicBook/UltimateMarvel comics ceased to be published in 2015, but he was rescued and incorporated to ComicBook/XMenBlue. In this comic, however, he became a full-time WolverineWannabe, a teenager "Wolverine" alongside the teenager original time-displaced X-Men.
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* Hank Pym (aka ComicBook/AntMan) has suffered from this perhaps more than any other Marvel character. During a single incident in which he was suffering nervous breakdown and had just completed building a robot programmed to kill all of his his friends, [[NeverLiveItDown/ComicBooks Hank struck his wife]], Janet Van Dyne (ComicBook/TheWasp). This immediately had the effect of establishing him in canon both as a wife-beater and severely mentally ill. Dozens of writers over the years have gone back to this time and again, with at least three different stories having been told about the two of them coming to terms with what happened. Hank's remorse is so Flanderized and extreme that he called ''himself'' the Wasp when [[DeathIsCheap she was thought to be dead]].
** This carries over even to alternate version of the character. The Ultimate Universe version of Pym was written as a cruel sadist who tortures his wife nearly to death and stole all of his ideas from her.
** As of ''ComicBook/SecretEmpire'', Hank [[spoiler: after having merged with Ultron]], finally snaps and calls out the then 'Captain HYDRA' Steve and the AI version of Tony Stark for all the stuff that they've pulled which, especially in Tony's case (Steve was morally flipped against his will), makes the incident with Janet, awful as it was, look like a playground scuffle. He has a point, unfortunately.
* ''ComicBook/ArchieComicsSonicTheHedgehog'':
** Sonic's attitude has been cranked UpToEleven, to the point where he's making wisecracks during a battle with Enerjak, a being with seemingly limitless energy (though this may have been more for comic relief than anything, it was a tad excessive). [[Administrivia/TropesAreTools To be fair]], though, it seems to have slightly boosted his badassness--at the cost of emotion (again, though, to be fair, he never really showed much emotion anyway). The part about emotion is slowly being subverted as of #200; ever since Sonic's apparently driven Robotnik totally, droolingly insane, he seems to actually regret having broken down the guy so completely.
** An aversion may come from the early comics, which had a much zanier and cartoony format thus exaggerated a lot of the characters' traits compared to their ''[[WesternAnimation/SonicTheHedgehogSatAM SatAm]]'' counterparts, e.g. Sonic existed as a KarmicTrickster with a TotallyRadical mannerisms akin to his ''[[WesternAnimation/AdventuresOfSonicTheHedgehog AoStH]]'' counterpart, Sally's somewhat neurotic and no-nonsense attitude was exaggerated into a spoiled, mean-tempered prude and Robotnik was converted into even bigger a bumbling CardCarryingVillain than his 'Eggman' incarnations. This was reversed as the comic's writing tone became more serious and akin to the show, though some genuine cases of flanderization do pop up on occasion.
** [[VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog2006 Silver the Hedgehog]] is cranked up of his stupidity from the original game's appearance as this time he starts accusing ''everybody'' in Freedom Fighters one by one as a traitor at the drop of a hat. It gets so ridiculous not only Sonic stops taking him seriously, but starts hating his guts because the guy's accusing people who [[DudeNotFunny happens to recently get injured, leave the team, or be mind controlled.]]
** Shadow deserves a mention, the calm and pragmatic anti hero he was in games, has increased his pride and lack of hindsight in the comic series. Feels he constantly has to prove himself as the ultimate and gets mocked for his no nonsense attitude due to the comic making light on his serious methods towards threats. He always gets into situations in harsh and reckless ways especially against powerful enemies like Scourge or ADAM biting off more than he can chew. He goes into a [[BerserkButton roaring rampage of revenge]] when he loses to those same threats and his pride crushed making him more a sore loser.
* ''Comicbook/{{Asterix}}''
** DreadfulMusician Cacofonix starts out as at least an average bard - Asterix blows off listening to his music once due to being busy (which annoyed him) and the people sitting near to his performance at the final banquet are cringing with their hands over their ears, but the villagers also perform a plot-important traditional dance to his music with every indication that they are enjoying it. As the comic progresses, other characters (especially Fulliautomatix the blacksmith) start beating him up to prevent him from singing, which develops into a running gag, and he's shown to live in a hut at the top of a tree, where no-one can hear him. By the time Uderzo took over writing, he was so bad that he causes rain whenever he plays, which develops to the point where he ends up being so bad that merely playing a few notes creates an apocalyptic rainstorm that lasts for days.
** Obelix also developed, mostly because of the artwork - he starts out as an [[TheBigGuy angular, burly warrior with hairy arms and big, pointed horns on his helmet]] with a surlier and more straightforward attitude, but gets a rounder, softer, more childlike look with beatific expressions and little nubby horns to suit his [[TheFool increasingly innocent]], slightly CloudCuckooLander, childlike personality within the first few books.

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!!!Franchise/TheDCU
* Hank Pym (aka ComicBook/AntMan) has suffered from this perhaps more than any other Marvel character. During a single incident in which he ComicBook/AmandaWaller was suffering nervous breakdown and had just completed building a robot programmed to kill all of his his friends, [[NeverLiveItDown/ComicBooks Hank struck his wife]], Janet Van Dyne (ComicBook/TheWasp). This immediately had the effect of establishing him in canon both introduced as a wife-beater and severely mentally ill. Dozens of writers over the years have gone back to this time and again, with at least three different stories having been told about the two of them coming to terms with what happened. Hank's remorse is so Flanderized and extreme that he called ''himself'' the Wasp when [[DeathIsCheap she was thought to be dead]].
** This carries over even to alternate version of the character. The Ultimate Universe version of Pym was written as a cruel sadist who tortures his wife nearly to death and stole all of his ideas from her.
** As of ''ComicBook/SecretEmpire'', Hank [[spoiler: after having merged with Ultron]], finally snaps and calls out the then 'Captain HYDRA' Steve and the AI version of Tony Stark for all the stuff that they've pulled which, especially in Tony's case (Steve was morally flipped against his will), makes the incident with Janet, awful as it was, look like a playground scuffle. He has a point, unfortunately.
* ''ComicBook/ArchieComicsSonicTheHedgehog'':
** Sonic's attitude has been cranked UpToEleven, to the point where he's making wisecracks during a battle with Enerjak, a being with seemingly limitless energy (though this may have been more for comic relief than anything, it was a tad excessive). [[Administrivia/TropesAreTools To be fair]], though, it seems to have slightly boosted his badassness--at the cost of emotion (again, though, to be fair, he never really showed much emotion anyway). The part about emotion is slowly being subverted as of #200; ever since Sonic's apparently driven Robotnik totally, droolingly insane, he seems to actually regret having broken down the guy so completely.
** An aversion may come from the early comics, which had a much zanier and cartoony format thus exaggerated a lot of the characters' traits compared to their ''[[WesternAnimation/SonicTheHedgehogSatAM SatAm]]'' counterparts, e.g. Sonic existed as a KarmicTrickster with a TotallyRadical mannerisms akin to his ''[[WesternAnimation/AdventuresOfSonicTheHedgehog AoStH]]'' counterpart, Sally's somewhat neurotic and
tough, no-nonsense attitude woman whose standoffish demeanor hid a lot of trauma and guilt. While she did morally dubious things, she was exaggerated into a spoiled, mean-tempered prude also willing to put her career on the line for the Comicbook/SuicideSquad and Robotnik was converted into even bigger a bumbling CardCarryingVillain than his 'Eggman' incarnations. This was reversed as defy the comic's writing tone became more serious and akin to the show, though some genuine cases of flanderization do pop up on occasion.
** [[VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog2006 Silver the Hedgehog]] is cranked up of his stupidity from the original game's appearance as this time he starts accusing ''everybody'' in Freedom Fighters one by one as a traitor at the drop of a hat. It gets so ridiculous not only Sonic stops taking him seriously, but starts hating his guts because the guy's accusing people who [[DudeNotFunny happens to recently get injured, leave the team, or be mind controlled.]]
** Shadow deserves a mention, the calm and pragmatic anti hero he was in games, has increased his pride and lack of hindsight in the comic series. Feels he constantly has to prove himself as the ultimate and gets mocked for his no nonsense attitude due to the comic making light on his serious methods towards threats. He always gets into situations in harsh and reckless ways especially
U.S. government when they went against powerful enemies like Scourge or ADAM biting off more than he can chew. He goes into a [[BerserkButton roaring rampage of revenge]] when he loses to those same threats and his pride crushed making him more a sore loser.
* ''Comicbook/{{Asterix}}''
** DreadfulMusician Cacofonix starts out
her moral compass. These days she's depicted as at least an average bard - Asterix blows off listening to his music once due to being busy (which annoyed him) and the people sitting near to his performance at the final banquet are cringing with their hands over their ears, but the villagers also perform a plot-important traditional dance to his music with every indication that they are enjoying it. As the comic progresses, other characters (especially Fulliautomatix the blacksmith) start beating him up to prevent him from singing, which develops into a running gag, and he's shown to live in a hut at the top of a tree, where no-one can hear him. By the time Uderzo took over writing, he was so bad that he causes rain whenever he plays, which develops to the point where he ends up being so bad that merely playing a few notes creates an apocalyptic rainstorm that lasts for days.
** Obelix also developed, mostly because of the artwork - he starts out as an [[TheBigGuy angular, burly warrior with hairy arms and big, pointed horns on his helmet]]
sociopath with a surlier WeHaveReserves mentality toward the Squad and more straightforward attitude, but gets a rounder, softer, more childlike look with beatific expressions and little nubby horns to suit his [[TheFool increasingly innocent]], slightly CloudCuckooLander, childlike personality within the first few books.MyCountryRightOrWrong attitude.



** He's also portrayed as the "brooding loner" of the Justice League. This is despite the fact that the "Bat-family" has more members than Superman's friends and allies, two of the five Comicbook/{{Robin}}s have led the Comicbook/TeenTitans, one of those two also led ComicBook/YoungJustice, the other is considered the most trustworthy man in the hero community, and Oracle acts as the MissionControl. He is a close friend of a lot of superheroes as well, and he managed to be something of a father to [[ComicBook/{{Batgirl 2000}} Cassandra]] [[BrokenBird Cain]].

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** He's also portrayed as the "brooding loner" of the Justice League. This is despite the fact that the "Bat-family" has more members than Superman's friends and allies, two of the five Comicbook/{{Robin}}s have led the Comicbook/TeenTitans, one of those two also led ComicBook/YoungJustice, the other is considered the most trustworthy man in the hero community, and Oracle Comicbook/{{Oracle}} acts as the MissionControl. He is a close friend of a lot of superheroes as well, and he managed to be something of a father to [[ComicBook/{{Batgirl 2000}} Cassandra]] [[BrokenBird Cain]].



** To a lesser extent, Stephanie Brown started off as a somewhat cynical and troubled girl with low self esteem who was also fairly snarky and a little quirky, but through character development she learnt to let go of her troubles and focus on the positives, but was still constantly facing painful troubles. [[ComicBook/{{Batgirl 2009}} By the time she became the new Batgirl]], though, she became known as 'the fun one' of the Bat family, being full of hope regardless of what the family faces. In a case of Administrivia/TropesAreNotBad, most fans generally ''like'' this move, and enjoy the fact it makes Steph stand out among the OFTEN troubled and angsty members of the Bat Family.

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** To a lesser extent, Stephanie Brown started off as a somewhat cynical and troubled girl with low self esteem who was also fairly snarky and a little quirky, but through character development she learnt to let go of her troubles and focus on the positives, but was still constantly facing painful troubles. [[ComicBook/{{Batgirl 2009}} By the time she became the new Batgirl]], though, she became known as 'the fun one' of the Bat family, being full of hope regardless of what the family faces. In a case of Administrivia/TropesAreNotBad, [[Administrivia/TropesAreTools Tropes Are Not Bad]], most fans generally ''like'' this move, and enjoy the fact it makes Steph stand out among the OFTEN troubled and angsty members of the Bat Family.



** Speaking of which, Harley Quinn. While always a bit ditzy, over time she's become a GenkiGirl who's nearly as insane as the Joker. Meanwhile, her attire has become increasingly {{Stripperiffic}} to match the PerverseSexualLust her fanbase has towards her. It's to the point that works like ''Gods and Monsters'' and ''Batman: White Knight'' will poke fun at how different the character is from what she started as.
*** In addition to her progressively skimpier outfits sexuality in general began to consume her character more and more as time went on, initially having SingleTargetSexuality for The Joker, then developing a close friendship with Poison Ivy with some subtle LesYay, then she began to have mild mostly one sided FoeYay with Batman until finally to coincide with her {{Stripperiffic}} appearance she became a bisexual nyphomaiac who's almost incapable of talking about anything other than sex.

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** Speaking of which, Harley Quinn. While always a bit ditzy, over time she's become a GenkiGirl who's nearly as insane as the Joker. Meanwhile, her attire has become increasingly {{Stripperiffic}} to match the PerverseSexualLust her fanbase has towards her. It's to the point that works like ''Gods and Monsters'' and ''Batman: White Knight'' will poke fun at how different the character is from what she started as. \n*** In addition to her progressively skimpier outfits sexuality in general began to consume her character more and more as time went on, initially having SingleTargetSexuality for The Joker, then developing a close friendship with Poison Ivy Comicbook/PoisonIvy with some subtle LesYay, [[HoYay/{{Batman}} LesYay]], then she began to have mild mostly one sided FoeYay with Batman until finally to coincide with her {{Stripperiffic}} appearance she became a bisexual nyphomaiac who's almost incapable of talking about anything other than sex.



** Jim Gordon when he became Batman. So y'know how 90% of the time Jim is okay with vigilantes who don't kill? How he's worked with Batman for years and is actually ''friendly'' with him, as well as the other Batfamily members? And how he only frowns on vigilantes who kill or go too far? Well when he's Batman, he hates all vigilantes in Gotham because he's a cop. Heck, "cop" is his defining trait, and actually the only noticeable one aside from the typical "I have to be Batman my own way" shtick that ''every'' Batman successor goes through.
*** Though in ''Batgirl'', he purposefully short-circuited the suit briefly to talk to Batgirl (who he doesn't know is his daughter), and quietly says that he doesn't want to hunt vigilantes down, but it's his job, so it's best if she gets off the streets before he has to chase her down.
** While Jason Todd's pre-Flashpoint self used guns as a means to an end, the New 52 and Rebirth version seems to be [[GunNut obsessed with them]], flashing them out in every instance, whether he's looking to kill or not. This is usually accompanied by him either narrating that he's using rubber bullets or taking nonlethal shots, or by loudly boasting about all the upgrades he's made to his guns. Furthermore, his grudge against Batman has devolved from opposition to his nonlethal philosophy on fighting crime, to desperately seeking out [[WellDoneSonGuy his approval]]. As of Rebirth, this attitude has extended towards Nightwing as well.

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** Jim Gordon when he became Batman. So y'know how 90% of the time Jim is okay with vigilantes who don't kill? How he's worked with Batman for years and is actually ''friendly'' with him, as well as the other Batfamily members? And how he only frowns on vigilantes who kill or go too far? Well when he's Batman, he hates all vigilantes in Gotham because he's a cop. Heck, "cop" is his defining trait, and actually the only noticeable one aside from the typical "I have to be Batman my own way" shtick that ''every'' Batman successor goes through.
***
through. Though in ''Batgirl'', he purposefully short-circuited the suit briefly to talk to Batgirl (who he doesn't know is his daughter), and quietly says that he doesn't want to hunt vigilantes down, but it's his job, so it's best if she gets off the streets before he has to chase her down.
** While [[Comicbook/RedHood Jason Todd's Todd]]'s pre-Flashpoint self used guns as a means to an end, the New 52 and Rebirth version seems to be [[GunNut obsessed with them]], flashing them out in every instance, whether he's looking to kill or not. This is usually accompanied by him either narrating that he's using rubber bullets or taking nonlethal shots, or by loudly boasting about all the upgrades he's made to his guns. Furthermore, his grudge against Batman has devolved from opposition to his nonlethal philosophy on fighting crime, to desperately seeking out [[WellDoneSonGuy his approval]]. As of Rebirth, this attitude has extended towards Nightwing as well.



** In the last few years, [[ComicBook/{{Batgirl}} Cassandra Cain]] went from an outsider with an AmbiguousDisorder and a good deal of emotional issues, to a childish girl who's lonely and sad all of the time.
** Also in recent years, Bruce's tendency to mistreat other members of his family when under severe emotional stress. This goes as far back as Jason Todd's death back in the eighties, but it never got 'out of hand', so to speak. He never did anything that was completely unforgiveable, and there were always plenty of heartwarming moments to set-off anything that seemed too cruel, proving that Bruce ''did'' care. These days, you get stuff like beating the hell out of Dick Grayson after he was exposed as Nightwing to essentially force him to go FakingTheDead (and not telling a single other member of the family) so he can do an undercover mission -- and that was after Damian's death, someone that both Bruce ''and'' Dick were still heavily mourning at the time. Then there was the time he nearly beat Jason ''to death'' after Jason shot the Penguin; no matter what Jason did, it didn't warrant that kind of brutality, and became especially HarsherInHindsight after it was revealed that Jason hadn't intended to kill Penguin at all. Why did he do that? [[DisproportionateRetribution Because Selina left him at the altar]]. Now he's gone from mere mistreatment to flat-out abuse, landing him solidly in DesignatedHero territory and making many fans wonder why the rest of the Bat-Family sticks by him at all, especially when he never apologizes for anything he's done.
* In a strange case of [[ArtEvolution graphical]] {{Flanderization}}, Kingdok from ''ComicBook/{{Bone}}'' gets more monstrous each issue.

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** In the last few years, [[ComicBook/{{Batgirl}} [[ComicBook/Batgirl2000 Cassandra Cain]] went from an outsider with an AmbiguousDisorder and a good deal of emotional issues, to a childish girl who's lonely and sad all of the time.
** Also in recent years, Bruce's tendency to mistreat other members of his family when under severe emotional stress. This goes as far back as Jason Todd's death back in the eighties, but it never got 'out of hand', so to speak. He never did anything that was completely unforgiveable, unforgivable, and there were always plenty of heartwarming moments to set-off anything that seemed too cruel, proving that Bruce ''did'' care. These days, you get stuff like beating the hell out of Dick Grayson after he was exposed as Nightwing to essentially force him to go FakingTheDead (and not telling a single other member of the family) so he can do an undercover mission -- and that was after Damian's death, someone that both Bruce ''and'' Dick were still heavily mourning at the time. Then there was the time he nearly beat Jason ''to death'' after Jason shot the Penguin; no matter what Jason did, it didn't warrant that kind of brutality, and became especially HarsherInHindsight after it was revealed that Jason hadn't intended to kill Penguin at all. Why did he do that? [[DisproportionateRetribution Because Selina left him at the altar]]. Now he's gone from mere mistreatment to flat-out abuse, landing him solidly in DesignatedHero territory and making many fans wonder why the rest of the Bat-Family sticks by him at all, especially when he never apologizes for anything he's done. \n* In a strange case of [[ArtEvolution graphical]] {{Flanderization}}, Kingdok from ''ComicBook/{{Bone}}'' gets more monstrous each issue.



* ''ComicBook/{{Crossed}}'': For the first half of the ''Wish You Were Here'' storyline (an arc taking up four paperback volumes) Don is a PragmaticHero whose fairly competent but a bit slimy and visibily pleased with being in charge. By the end of volume three his obsession with power is about his only character trait and he's willing to go to war with a much larger faction and take a baby hostage just to avoid having his group members abandon him. Likewise, Elisa starts out as a simple ActionGirl who doesn't shy away from combat due to it providing a distraction. Then, in volume two, Elisa is portrayed as more eager to take the fight to the [[TechnicallyLivingZombie Crossed]] but arguably more focused on matters of security and the good of the group. By the third volume she's a flat-out BloodKnight, seemingly identical in personality to Des (whose established as a BloodKnight who acts as if he has nothing else to live for from the start): displaying apparent horror at the idea of a life with no more fighting.
* During the first ongoing ''ComicBook/{{Deadpool}}'' series and in ''ComicBook/CableAndDeadpool'', Deadpool was a talkative loon full of bad jokes and other wackiness. However, he was also portrayed as a total psychotic with a loose, at best, grasp of sanity. All the wackiness was a cover to hide his immense mental problems and self-loathing and just the slightest nudge could send him over the edge in a violent, unsettling rage. Most subsequent writers pretty much ignore the latter part and play him up as little more than a goofy comedy character. His [[Administrivia/TropesAreTools popularity skyrocketed]] after his flanderization and his flanderized version became his more iconic and well-recognized version. It helps that Marvel already has characters to fill the [[ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} Canadian with Rage Issues, Regenerating Healing Powers, and a convoluted backstory complicated by Swiss-Cheese Memory]], and [[Franchise/SpiderMan a flamboyant joke-cracker in a red costume, whose snark covers up his inner angst]] roles. After Deadpool's flanderized "wacky all the time" shtick got stale with many fans, the Duggen[=/=]Posehn run achieved acclaim for its CharacterRerailment.
* WesternAnimation/DonaldDuck and Scrooge's portrayal in early Italian-produced comics exaggerated their character traits from the American comic of the time to comical extremes. Donald became a narcoleptic with a complete aversion to any kind of physical work and so dumb he genuinely believed two plus two equaled five point five, who treated his nephews more like slaves than family. Scrooge on the other hand was stunningly violent and cruel towards absolutely everyone, with zero aversions towards outright criminal acts (one story mentioning he made a lot of his fortune from running an opium smuggling cartel), usually getting away with anything and everything purely because he was rich. The characters would eventually morph back into something more closely resembling their America counterparts.



* ''Comicbook/FantasticFour''
** Johnny Storm started off as a somewhat-conceited daredevil hero of the team[[note]]It's been joked that while the battle cry of the Avengers is "Avengers assemble!", that of the Fantastic Four is arguably "Johnny, wait!"[[/note]]. Since the eighties, he's become increasingly more stupid and narcissistic, to the point where he now appears to be a [[TheDitz ditzy]], AmbiguouslyGay metrosexual completely in love with himself.
** Reed Richards was originally a tad eccentric and rather emotionally stunted, but was Flanderized in the late 1990s/2000s into a borderline savant who doesn't understand human social behavior. This pretty much is part and parcel of Reed's slow derailment from a many-layered, infamously trope-defying character into a generic scientific supergenius strawman. Perhaps most tellingly, Reed was originally written as a veteran of UsefulNotes/WorldWarII before ComicBookTime forced the writers to cut that detail from his backstory. After 40 years of intense {{Flanderization}}, though, it's practically unthinkable that the current comics' pencil-necked nerd would have ever even ''considered'' serving in the Army, let alone that he would ever have fought in Nazi-occupied France in the Big One.
** Inverted with the Thing: in his earliest appearances, he was a complete {{jerkass}} who was constantly picking fights with not only Johnny, but Reed, and had no use for people whom he felt were judging him. Later on, he was portrayed as more of a tough guy with a heart of gold.
** Subverted with Invisible Woman who was originally called the Invisible Girl, and useless in a fight. She gained the ability to create force-fields, became a more competent fighter, took on the name Invisible Woman (after all, Iceman and Spider-Man were supposed to be teenagers but never referred to as "boys") and has sometimes served as a more competent leader especially during such time as Reed was away.

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* ''Comicbook/FantasticFour''
** Johnny Storm started off as a somewhat-conceited daredevil hero of the team[[note]]It's been joked that while the battle cry of the Avengers is "Avengers assemble!", that of the Fantastic Four is arguably "Johnny, wait!"[[/note]]. Since the eighties, he's become increasingly more stupid and narcissistic, to the point where he now appears to be a [[TheDitz ditzy]], AmbiguouslyGay metrosexual completely in love with himself.
** Reed Richards was originally a tad eccentric and rather emotionally stunted, but was Flanderized in the late 1990s/2000s into a borderline savant who doesn't understand human social behavior. This pretty much is part and parcel of Reed's slow derailment from a many-layered, infamously trope-defying character into a generic scientific supergenius strawman. Perhaps most tellingly, Reed was originally written as a veteran of UsefulNotes/WorldWarII before ComicBookTime forced the writers to cut that detail from his backstory. After 40 years of intense {{Flanderization}}, though, it's practically unthinkable that the current comics' pencil-necked nerd would have ever even ''considered'' serving in the Army, let alone that he would ever have fought in Nazi-occupied France in the Big One.
** Inverted with the Thing: in his earliest appearances, he was a complete {{jerkass}} who was constantly picking fights with not only Johnny, but Reed, and had no use for people whom he felt were judging him. Later on, he was portrayed as more of a tough guy with a heart of gold.
** Subverted with Invisible Woman who was originally called the Invisible Girl, and useless in a fight. She gained the ability to create force-fields, became a more competent fighter, took on the name Invisible Woman (after all, Iceman and Spider-Man were supposed to be teenagers but never referred to as "boys") and has sometimes served as a more competent leader especially during such time as Reed was away.



* [[Comicbook/IncredibleHulk The Hulk's]] raw power has been exaggerated to the point that he might as well just be a [[Anime/DragonBallZ Super Saiyan.]] In his first appearance Hulk was perfectly capable of fluent speech and clear-minded reasoning. Over the years the "dumb" part of DumbMuscle got amplified along with the "muscle", until we reach the iconic "HULK SMASH!" levels. Then, Creator/PeterDavid got the idea of explaining this as two different facets of Bruce Banner's fractured mind manifesting in different types of Hulk. How his level of strength tends to be inversely proportional to his intelligence has been explained by that his ability to reason tends to put limits to how much pure rage he can build up. An alternate universe supervillain, the Maestro, was even created out of the idea of "what if the Hulk stopped caring about holding back, then lived for a hundred years?"
** Contemporary Marvel writers have some fun with this when time-travel shenanigans bring later characters in contact with early Silver Age Hulk. Heroes (and villains) expecting the monosyllabic rage-monster are shocked to meet a gruff, clever Hulk who is functionally equivalent to a stronger, tougher, more devious Ben Grimm.
* ComicBook/IronMan used to be a fairly well-rounded character, being not only a super hero, but also a captain of industry, a millionaire playboy, a bit of a womanizer, a technological genius and - rather uniquely - physically crippled from his inception. He also had a bout with alcoholism. During Comicbook/CivilWar, he got flanderized into a stubborn pseudo-fascist who'd just as soon throw his best friends in jail if they did not fall in line with the SuperHumanRegistrationAct. He had not ''nearly'' recovered from the fan-impact of that when Matt Fraction took him on an entirely different flanderization trip by reducing ''all'' his issues to side effects of alcoholism, but at least he made him be sorry for his behaviour during Civil War. Now, it seems Tony Stark spends approximately half the time agonizing about how badly he sucks. His characterization later got better during Kieron Gillen's run as Iron Man took some days off and went to a vacation in space, as has taken a more carefree approach to his life.
** Also, like Bruce Wayne in the DCU, Tony Stark seems to have gone from "guy with a few million bucks" to "probably the richest man in the Marvel Universe".



** A notable aversion occurs with, of all people, [[Franchise/GreenLantern Guy Gardner]]. Giffen and [=DeMatteis=] were concerned with how much Flanderization had already occurred with the character, who initially was more intelligent than Hal Jordan, but by the time of joining the JLI was mostly famous as a JerkAss with severe brain damage. A punch from Franchise/{{Batman}} sends Guy into an alternate, hyper-sensitive persona, [[spoiler: eventually revealed to be a total con, as Guy enjoyed screwing with his teammates. His girlfriend, Ice, sees through it.]]
** In a surprising [[SelfDeprecation Take That, Me!]] moment, the original writing team actually addressed their Flanderization in the [[ReunionShow reunion mini-series]] ''Formerly Known as the Justice League''. In one of the more memorable moments, ComicBook/BlueBeetle actually calls out ComicBook/BoosterGold by [[TookALevelInDumbass claiming that he used to be competent and heroic before joining the JLI]], and accuses him of acting stupid and childish on purpose.

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** A notable aversion occurs with, of all people, [[Franchise/GreenLantern Guy Gardner]]. Giffen and [=DeMatteis=] were concerned with how much Flanderization had already occurred with the character, who initially was more intelligent than Hal Jordan, but by the time of joining the JLI was mostly famous as a JerkAss with severe brain damage. A punch from Franchise/{{Batman}} sends Guy into an alternate, hyper-sensitive persona, [[spoiler: eventually revealed to be a total con, as Guy enjoyed screwing with his teammates. His girlfriend, Ice, sees through it.]]
it]].
** In a surprising [[SelfDeprecation Take That, Me!]] moment, the original writing team actually addressed their Flanderization in the [[ReunionShow reunion mini-series]] ''Formerly ''[[Comicbook/SuperBuddies Formerly Known as the Justice League''.League]]''. In one of the more memorable moments, ComicBook/BlueBeetle actually calls out ComicBook/BoosterGold by [[TookALevelInDumbass claiming that he used to be competent and heroic before joining the JLI]], and accuses him of acting stupid and childish on purpose.



* When the ComicStrip/LittleLulu comics first introduced [[MeaningfulName Wilbur Van Snobbe]], he was accurately depicted as a {{Jerkass}} SpoiledBrat who would go out of his way to try to best either Lulu or Tubby, with no success. However, when the anime version was created, the creators took away his snobbish characteristics and turned him into a well-mannered rich boy who served as TheSmartGuy to Lulu and the others. Then, when ''The Little Lulu Show'' was created, his snobbish personality was fortunately returned intact, just like in the original comics.
* Magica [=DeSpell=]'s obsession with Scrooge [=McDuck=]'s NumberOneDime. Though her introduction does have her focused on attempting to steal it, other Creator/CarlBarks stories usually had Magica simply wanting to become rich, and would often have her working on schemes completely unrelated to the dime. Nowadays, she's completely psychotic about that coin, and you rarely, if ever, see a Magica story without it as her prime goal anymore. The dime itself also went through a sort of Flanderization. In the original story with Magica the dime had no initial magic powers. Magica just needed it as a spell component. Later writers seem to have missed this point and decided that the dime was somehow the source of Scrooge's wealth. In some stories, Scrooge can lose the dime over simple theft and suddenly his entire empire is crumbling. Creator/DonRosa [[TakeThat mocks this]] in the GrandFinale of ''Comicbook/TheLifeAndTimesOfScroogeMcDuck'', where the Flanderization [[LeaningOnTheFourthWall extends to rumors in-universe]]. Scrooge finds the idea that he owes his entire fortune to a lucky charm (which he had for ''twenty years'' before he even started to make his fortune!) incredibly insulting. That said, Rosa's take on the characters has also that Magica's spell would indeed work should she get her hands on the coin, and that losing the dime would indeed cause Scrooge to lose such spirit that he'd be no match for his enemies.
* ComicBook/NormanOsborn started off as a corrupt businessman who had a loving, but strained relationship with his son; he had one of his collegues arrested with fake charges and he genuinely thought giving Harry expensive stuff was enough to keep him happy. Even his motive as the Goblin was simple: he wanted to become a crime boss to see if he could, [[MotiveDecay which later warped into a desire to kill Spider-man]] for always stopping him. When Spidey found out who the Goblin was, he asked Norman if Harry would be proud of him, which caused Norman to lose his composure and led to his defeat and amnesia. When Harry's depression led to his famous drug problem, Norman's inability to understand his son led him to believe Harry's friends were behind it, which caused a panic attack powerful enough to bring back his memories of the goblin -- every time he thought about Harry suffering, he himself suffered a mental breakdown. [[DeathIsCheap Then Norman died, and was brought back decades later]]. During this time he was supposedly a crime boss in Europe, was the mastermind behind ComicBook/TheCloneSaga and had developed a dislike for his son, to the point he was willing to kill him without any real reason to do so. Nowadays his villainy consists of trying to take over the world, mass murder, spreading the goblin formula thorugh manhattan to cause chaos, and has even been bonded with Carnage and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking plastic surgery has turned his face]] into [[EvilMakesYouUgly a mess]]. He is also implied to hate every minority -- [[StrawMisogynist most famously women]] -- under the sun, and it's even been noted that Norman Osborn is now worse than the Goblin ever was.
* In his first appearances in the comics, Grouchy Smurf from ''Franchise/TheSmurfs'' was perfectly capable of carrying on a normal conversation, even with his grouchy attitude. Over time, though, his Mad Libs Catch Phrase of "I hate (...)" became more and more prominent in his dialogue, and by the time the cartoon came around, almost all of Grouchy's dialogue was based solely around declaring his hatred for whatever the others were talking about at the time.
* The {{Comicbook/Venom}} symbiotes that most often show up in connection to [[Franchise/SpiderMan Spider-Man]] have been established as having a vulnerability to fire and sonic attacks. When the latter was first used, it required a sonic emitter built by Reed Richards for this specific purpose. Over time this vulnerability has been exaggerated to the point that any loud noise can repel a symbiote. As for fire, at its worst the mere presence of a single lit lighter has been able to drive a symbiote away.
* ''Starfire'' of Comicbook/TeenTitans fame was a sexually liberated and emotionally open alien who celebrated free will, expression of love, and monogamous relationships. In Comicbook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws, she's a nymphomaniac with no memory or cognition, and is frequently used as [[MsFanservice titillation]].

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* When the ComicStrip/LittleLulu comics first introduced [[MeaningfulName Wilbur Van Snobbe]], he was accurately depicted as a {{Jerkass}} SpoiledBrat who would go out Comicbook/{{Starfire}} of his way to try to best either Lulu or Tubby, with no success. However, when the anime version was created, the creators took away his snobbish characteristics and turned him into a well-mannered rich boy who served as TheSmartGuy to Lulu and the others. Then, when ''The Little Lulu Show'' was created, his snobbish personality was fortunately returned intact, just like in the original comics.
* Magica [=DeSpell=]'s obsession with Scrooge [=McDuck=]'s NumberOneDime. Though her introduction does have her focused on attempting to steal it, other Creator/CarlBarks stories usually had Magica simply wanting to become rich, and would often have her working on schemes completely unrelated to the dime. Nowadays, she's completely psychotic about that coin, and you rarely, if ever, see a Magica story without it as her prime goal anymore. The dime itself also went through a sort of Flanderization. In the original story with Magica the dime had no initial magic powers. Magica just needed it as a spell component. Later writers seem to have missed this point and decided that the dime was somehow the source of Scrooge's wealth. In some stories, Scrooge can lose the dime over simple theft and suddenly his entire empire is crumbling. Creator/DonRosa [[TakeThat mocks this]] in the GrandFinale of ''Comicbook/TheLifeAndTimesOfScroogeMcDuck'', where the Flanderization [[LeaningOnTheFourthWall extends to rumors in-universe]]. Scrooge finds the idea that he owes his entire fortune to a lucky charm (which he had for ''twenty years'' before he even started to make his fortune!) incredibly insulting. That said, Rosa's take on the characters has also that Magica's spell would indeed work should she get her hands on the coin, and that losing the dime would indeed cause Scrooge to lose such spirit that he'd be no match for his enemies.
* ComicBook/NormanOsborn started off as a corrupt businessman who had a loving, but strained relationship with his son; he had one of his collegues arrested with fake charges and he genuinely thought giving Harry expensive stuff was enough to keep him happy. Even his motive as the Goblin was simple: he wanted to become a crime boss to see if he could, [[MotiveDecay which later warped into a desire to kill Spider-man]] for always stopping him. When Spidey found out who the Goblin was, he asked Norman if Harry would be proud of him, which caused Norman to lose his composure and led to his defeat and amnesia. When Harry's depression led to his famous drug problem, Norman's inability to understand his son led him to believe Harry's friends were behind it, which caused a panic attack powerful enough to bring back his memories of the goblin -- every time he thought about Harry suffering, he himself suffered a mental breakdown. [[DeathIsCheap Then Norman died, and was brought back decades later]]. During this time he was supposedly a crime boss in Europe, was the mastermind behind ComicBook/TheCloneSaga and had developed a dislike for his son, to the point he was willing to kill him without any real reason to do so. Nowadays his villainy consists of trying to take over the world, mass murder, spreading the goblin formula thorugh manhattan to cause chaos, and has even been bonded with Carnage and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking plastic surgery has turned his face]] into [[EvilMakesYouUgly a mess]]. He is also implied to hate every minority -- [[StrawMisogynist most famously women]] -- under the sun, and it's even been noted that Norman Osborn is now worse than the Goblin ever was.
* In his first appearances in the comics, Grouchy Smurf from ''Franchise/TheSmurfs'' was perfectly capable of carrying on a normal conversation, even with his grouchy attitude. Over time, though, his Mad Libs Catch Phrase of "I hate (...)" became more and more prominent in his dialogue, and by the time the cartoon came around, almost all of Grouchy's dialogue was based solely around declaring his hatred for whatever the others were talking about at the time.
* The {{Comicbook/Venom}} symbiotes that most often show up in connection to [[Franchise/SpiderMan Spider-Man]] have been established as having a vulnerability to fire and sonic attacks. When the latter was first used, it required a sonic emitter built by Reed Richards for this specific purpose. Over time this vulnerability has been exaggerated to the point that any loud noise can repel a symbiote. As for fire, at its worst the mere presence of a single lit lighter has been able to drive a symbiote away.
* ''Starfire'' of Comicbook/TeenTitans
''Comicbook/TeenTitans'' fame was a sexually liberated and emotionally open alien who celebrated free will, expression of love, and monogamous relationships. In Comicbook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws, ''Comicbook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws'', she's a nymphomaniac with no memory or cognition, and is frequently used as [[MsFanservice titillation]].



* Creator/AlanMoore's ''ComicBook/TopTen'' has [[ShockAndAwe Shock Headed Peter]] who comes off at first as simply a prejudiced working class cop who actually has some character depth to a 2-D {{Straw|Character}} [[FantasticRacism Robo-Racist]] when a Robot character gets introduced to Precinct 10.

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* Creator/AlanMoore's ''ComicBook/TopTen'' has [[ShockAndAwe Shock Headed Peter]] who comes off at first as simply a prejudiced working class cop who ''Franchise/WonderWoman'': Wonder Woman's willingness to kill got this when the New 52 reboot happened. Before she was willing to kill, but only in extreme circumstances where she had literally no other choice. In the New 52, DC cranked this up to ridiculous degrees, with her casually killing villains she fights and actually ''gloating'' about doing so to another superhero. This has some had the effect of making it hard to believe that she would ever be made part of the Justice League, let alone allowed to continue operating; all of the other heroes retained [[ThouShaltNotKill their beliefs in no-killing]] or only killing when necessary.
* ''ComicBook/WonderWoman1942'':
** Once Kanigher's main story and Wonder Woman was based on Earth-One he started exaggerating the Amazons' weaknesses on Earth-Two, meant to house the original Wondy. While in the original tales an Amazon having their bracelets welded together by a man drained their Amazon super strength they were still stronger than human with Diana having snapped such chains with her own strength on numerous occasions, just with a bit more effort, Kanigher has Diana becoming faint and not having the strength to even walk upright when her bracelets are welded by a man.
** Kanigher's Earth-Two Etta had all of her
character depth stripped away so that she was just a plump lady who is constantly eating candy, rather than a tough prankster who loved a good fist fight who just so happened to be overweight and like sweets.

!!!Franchise/MarvelUniverse
* Hank Pym (aka ComicBook/AntMan) has suffered from this perhaps more than any other Marvel character. During
a 2-D {{Straw|Character}} [[FantasticRacism Robo-Racist]] single incident in which he was suffering nervous breakdown and had just completed building a robot programmed to kill all of his his friends, [[NeverLiveItDown/ComicBooks Hank struck his wife]], Janet Van Dyne (ComicBook/TheWasp). This immediately had the effect of establishing him in canon both as a wife-beater and severely mentally ill. Dozens of writers over the years have gone back to this time and again, with at least three different stories having been told about the two of them coming to terms with what happened. Hank's remorse is so Flanderized and extreme that he called ''himself'' the Wasp when [[DeathIsCheap she was thought to be dead]].
** This carries over even to alternate version of the character. The Ultimate Universe version of Pym was written as
a Robot cruel sadist who tortures his wife nearly to death and stole all of his ideas from her.
** As of ''ComicBook/SecretEmpire'', Hank [[spoiler: after having merged with Ultron]], finally snaps and calls out the then 'Captain HYDRA' Steve and the AI version of Tony Stark for all the stuff that they've pulled which, especially in Tony's case (Steve was morally flipped against his will), makes the incident with Janet, awful as it was, look like a playground scuffle. He has a point, unfortunately.
* During the first ongoing ''ComicBook/{{Deadpool}}'' series and in ''ComicBook/CableAndDeadpool'', Deadpool was a talkative loon full of bad jokes and other wackiness. However, he was also portrayed as a total psychotic with a loose, at best, grasp of sanity. All the wackiness was a cover to hide his immense mental problems and self-loathing and just the slightest nudge could send him over the edge in a violent, unsettling rage. Most subsequent writers pretty much ignore the latter part and play him up as little more than a goofy comedy character. His [[Administrivia/TropesAreTools popularity skyrocketed]] after his flanderization and his flanderized version became his more iconic and well-recognized version. It helps that Marvel already has characters to fill the [[Franchise/{{Wolverine}} Canadian with Rage Issues, Regenerating Healing Powers, and a convoluted backstory complicated by Swiss-Cheese Memory]], and [[Franchise/SpiderMan a flamboyant joke-cracker in a red costume, whose snark covers up his inner angst]] roles. After Deadpool's flanderized "wacky all the time" shtick got stale with many fans, the Duggen[=/=]Posehn run achieved acclaim for its CharacterRerailment.
* ''Comicbook/FantasticFour'':
** [[Comicbook/HumanTorch Johnny Storm]] started off as a somewhat-conceited daredevil hero of the team[[note]]It's been joked that while the battle cry of the Avengers is "Avengers assemble!", that of the Fantastic Four is arguably "[[LeeroyJenkins Johnny, wait]]!"[[/note]]. Since the eighties, he's become increasingly more stupid and narcissistic, to the point where he now appears to be a [[TheDitz ditzy]], AmbiguouslyGay metrosexual completely in love with himself.
** [[Comicbook/MisterFantastic Reed Richards]] was originally a tad eccentric and rather emotionally stunted, but was Flanderized in the late 1990s/2000s into a borderline savant who doesn't understand human social behavior. This pretty much is part and parcel of Reed's slow derailment from a many-layered, infamously trope-defying
character gets introduced into a generic scientific supergenius strawman. Perhaps most tellingly, Reed was originally written as a veteran of UsefulNotes/WorldWarII before ComicBookTime forced the writers to Precinct 10.cut that detail from his backstory. After 40 years of intense {{Flanderization}}, though, it's practically unthinkable that the current comics' pencil-necked nerd would have ever even ''considered'' serving in the Army, let alone that he would ever have fought in Nazi-occupied France in the Big One.
** Inverted with Comicbook/TheThing: in his earliest appearances, he was a complete {{jerkass}} who was constantly picking fights with not only Johnny, but Reed, and had no use for people whom he felt were judging him. Later on, he was portrayed as more of a tough guy with a heart of gold.
** Subverted with Comicbook/InvisibleWoman who was originally called the Invisible Girl, and useless in a fight. She gained the ability to create force-fields, became a more competent fighter, took on the name Invisible Woman (after all, Iceman and Spider-Man were supposed to be teenagers but never referred to as "boys") and has sometimes served as a more competent leader especially during such time as Reed was away.
* [[Comicbook/IncredibleHulk The Hulk's]] raw power has been exaggerated to the point that he might as well just be a [[Anime/DragonBallZ Super Saiyan.]] In his first appearance Hulk was perfectly capable of fluent speech and clear-minded reasoning. Over the years the "dumb" part of DumbMuscle got amplified along with the "muscle", until we reach the iconic "HULK SMASH!" levels. Then, Creator/PeterDavid got the idea of explaining this as two different facets of Bruce Banner's fractured mind manifesting in different types of Hulk. How his level of strength tends to be inversely proportional to his intelligence has been explained by that his ability to reason tends to put limits to how much pure rage he can build up. An alternate universe supervillain, the Maestro, was even created out of the idea of "what if the Hulk stopped caring about holding back, then lived for a hundred years?"
** Contemporary Marvel writers have some fun with this when time-travel shenanigans bring later characters in contact with early Silver Age Hulk. Heroes (and villains) expecting the monosyllabic rage-monster are shocked to meet a gruff, clever Hulk who is functionally equivalent to a stronger, tougher, more devious Ben Grimm.
* ComicBook/IronMan used to be a fairly well-rounded character, being not only a super hero, but also a captain of industry, a millionaire playboy, a bit of a womanizer, a technological genius and - rather uniquely - physically crippled from his inception. He also had a bout with alcoholism. During Comicbook/CivilWar, he got flanderized into a stubborn pseudo-fascist who'd just as soon throw his best friends in jail if they did not fall in line with the SuperHumanRegistrationAct. He had not ''nearly'' recovered from the fan-impact of that when Matt Fraction took him on an entirely different flanderization trip by reducing ''all'' his issues to side effects of alcoholism, but at least he made him be sorry for his behaviour during Civil War. Now, it seems Tony Stark spends approximately half the time agonizing about how badly he sucks. His characterization later got better during Kieron Gillen's run as Iron Man took some days off and went to a vacation in space, as has taken a more carefree approach to his life. Also, like Bruce Wayne in the DCU, Tony Stark seems to have gone from "guy with a few million bucks" to "probably the richest man in the Marvel Universe".
* ComicBook/NormanOsborn started off as a corrupt businessman who had a loving, but strained relationship with his son; he had one of his colleagues arrested with fake charges and he genuinely thought giving Harry expensive stuff was enough to keep him happy. Even his motive as the Goblin was simple: he wanted to become a crime boss to see if he could, [[MotiveDecay which later warped into a desire to kill Spider-Man]] for always stopping him. When Spidey found out who the Goblin was, he asked Norman if Harry would be proud of him, which caused Norman to lose his composure and led to his defeat and amnesia. When Harry's depression led to his famous drug problem, Norman's inability to understand his son led him to believe Harry's friends were behind it, which caused a panic attack powerful enough to bring back his memories of the goblin -- every time he thought about Harry suffering, he himself suffered a mental breakdown. [[DeathIsCheap Then Norman died, and was brought back decades later]]. During this time he was supposedly a crime boss in Europe, was the mastermind behind ''ComicBook/TheCloneSaga'' and had developed a dislike for his son, to the point he was willing to kill him without any real reason to do so. Nowadays his villainy consists of trying to take over the world, mass murder, spreading the goblin formula through manhattan to cause chaos, and has even been bonded with Carnage and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking plastic surgery has turned his face]] into [[EvilMakesYouUgly a mess]]. He is also implied to hate every minority -- [[StrawMisogynist most famously women]] -- under the sun, and it's even been noted that Norman Osborn is now worse than the Goblin ever was.
* ''ComicBook/{{Runaways}}'' has suffered a few cases of this over the years:
** In the second series, ComicBook/NicoMinoru struggled to adjust to leadership, and the stress of trying to lead a team that had deliberately been designed to be dysfunctional caused her to do rash things like kiss Chase or make a deal with her evil ancestor to gain more control over her powers. When the third series came around, the writers made her increasingly Machiavellian, willing to use magic on her own teammates to control them. On the other hand, after ''ComicBook/AvengersArena'', in which Nico lost her arm and developed PTSD, writers began moving in the opposite direction, with her constantly doubting herself.
** In the first two series, Molly was childish, as one might expect from an 11-year-old, but also intelligent, often managing to outwit other people. Around the time of the third series, the "intelligent" part went away and she simply became childish.
** Klara's [[FishOutOfTemporalWater unfamiliarity with modern culture]] has been exaggerated to the point where she once mistook Tigra for a prostitute. Over the years, she has also gradually transformed from a mostly-sane little girl who had trouble reconciling her religious beliefs with the reality of her life to a dangerously mentally-ill CreepyChild.



* ''Franchise/WonderWoman'': Wonder Woman's willingness to kill got this when the New 52 reboot happened. Before she was willing to kill, but only in extreme circumstances where she had literally no other choice. In the New 52, DC cranked this up to ridiculous degrees, with her casually killing villains she fights and actually ''gloating'' about doing so to another superhero. This has had the effect of making it hard to believe that she would ever be made part of the Justice League, let alone allowed to continue operating; all of the other heroes retained their beliefs in no-killing or only killing when necessary.

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* ''Franchise/WonderWoman'': Wonder Woman's willingness The {{Comicbook/Venom}} symbiotes that most often show up in connection to kill got [[Franchise/SpiderMan Spider-Man]] have been established as having a vulnerability to fire and sonic attacks. When the latter was first used, it required a sonic emitter built by Reed Richards for this when the New 52 reboot happened. Before she was willing to kill, but only in extreme circumstances where she had literally no other choice. In the New 52, DC cranked specific purpose. Over time this up to ridiculous degrees, with her casually killing villains she fights and actually ''gloating'' about doing so to another superhero. This vulnerability has had been exaggerated to the effect of making it hard to believe point that she would ever be made part of any loud noise can repel a symbiote. As for fire, at its worst the Justice League, let alone allowed mere presence of a single lit lighter has been able to continue operating; all of the other heroes retained their beliefs in no-killing or only killing when necessary.drive a symbiote away.



** ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} is a case study. During the [[TheEighties '80s]] considerable CharacterDevelopment evolved the character from a one-note {{Jerkass}} prone to UnstoppableRage to a wise, intelligent, multitalented, and skilled warrior/mentor. Then he [[PopularityPower got popular]] and the LowestCommonDenominator of Captain Fuzzity [=McStabStab=] won out [[WolverinePublicity with all the guest-shots]] even as they ramped his HealingFactor to UpToEleven. [[EnsembleDarkhorse And he's still the most popular character of the whole franchise]]. Because being badass is the ''only'' thing he seems to need. And while his edges seem to have been smothed in the ''X-Men'' comics, buzz has it as of SDCC '13 that they're going to do a major story where his killing tendencies threaten his place in the Avengers.\\\

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** ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} Franchise/{{Wolverine}} is a case study. During the [[TheEighties '80s]] considerable CharacterDevelopment evolved the character from a one-note {{Jerkass}} prone to UnstoppableRage to a wise, intelligent, multitalented, and skilled warrior/mentor. Then he [[PopularityPower got popular]] and the LowestCommonDenominator of Captain Fuzzity [=McStabStab=] won out [[WolverinePublicity with all the guest-shots]] even as they ramped his HealingFactor to UpToEleven. [[EnsembleDarkhorse And he's still the most popular character of the whole franchise]]. Because being badass is the ''only'' thing he seems to need. And while his edges seem to have been smothed smoothed in the ''X-Men'' comics, buzz has it as of SDCC '13 that they're going to do a major story where his killing tendencies threaten his place in the Avengers.\\\



Under writer Jason Aaron, another example has occurred. While Logan always had kind of a rivalry with Cyclops, the two are friends and can agree on some things, and Logan ''does'' respect Scott. Furthermore, while Logan ''is'' a Jerkass, he's willing to admit when he's wrong. Under the aforementioned writer, Logan's Jerkass tendencies have become his dominant trait, with him mouthing off about why Cyke sucks literally every time the two meet, and he outright ignores anything good the guy does.
** [[Characters/XMenOtherTeams Surge]], whose Jerkass tendencies have been blown way out of proportion. While she was initially depicted as being kind of a JerkAss, it's understandable (she was disowned by her father for being a mutant and was a bum who had to take drugs to sort-of control her powers), she was always more of a JerkWithAHeartOfGold and she was always kind to those she considered friends. While she was always an outspoken, rebellious smart ass, her later depictions make her much harder to sympathise with as she has been portrayed as an unrelenting bitch and it has become her most dominant characteristic. She has since entered Comic Book Limbo, though her brief appearance in ''Avengers Academy'' had her being more reasonable, and had her revert to her old portrayal of JerkWithAHeartOfGold.
** [[Characters/XMenVillains Mojo]] was introduced in a miniseries as a psychotic EldritchAbomination obsessed whose very presence actually caused living things to wither and die and who casually committed MindRape. He also commissioned genetically-engineered slaves to act in movies to entertain him. Even Comicbook/DoctorStrange feared what would happen if he stayed on Earth for long. As soon as he was brought into the main X-Men comics, the mystical powers and murderous demeanor were downplayed and the media obsession was turned UpToEleven, so Mojo immediately became a comedic villain used to spoof the entertainment industry. He's still pretty damn horrible, though, and his comedic personality makes it worse when he does something like torturing Nocturne ForTheEvulz, or cheerfully sending someone to ''have their spine freaking removed''.
** Wolverine's daughter/sister/OppositeSexClone, ComicBook/{{X 23}} suffers from much of the same treatment as he does. Once her [[ComicBook/InnocenceLost backstory]] was revealed, Laura was established as a highly-skilled fighter, and a [[GeniusBruiser very intelligent]] and [[BadassBookworm highly educated]] young girl with extensive assassin and black ops training, while ''[[ComicBook/NewMutants New X-Men]]'' expanded upon this further by revealing her to be a gifted strategist as well. Most writers now completely ignore everything after "highly-skilled fighter," and give her all the subtlety in combat of LeeroyJenkins. This is most egregious in ''ComicBook/AvengersArena'', where the writers give lipservice to her training and AwesomenessByAnalysis, and ''still'' have her decide the best strategy for taking down Apex (who is controlling a ''Sentinel'') is a [[IdiotBall direct frontal assault]]. Even the trigger scent has been subject to this. Initially, the conditioning the Facility subjected Laura to resulted in her rages focusing specifically on whatever was marked by the scent. By the time her solo series and ''Avengers Arena'' rolled around, the scent was now sending her after ''everything in sight''.
** The Beast, a bit of a DumbJock in his early appearances, has become more frequently characterized by SesquipedalianLoquaciousness and a handful of catchphrases.

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Under writer Jason Aaron, another example has occurred. While Logan always had kind of a rivalry with Cyclops, Comicbook/{{Cyclops}}, the two are friends and can agree on some things, and Logan ''does'' respect Scott. Furthermore, while Logan ''is'' a Jerkass, he's willing to admit when he's wrong. Under the aforementioned writer, Logan's Jerkass tendencies have become his dominant trait, with him mouthing off about why Cyke sucks literally every time the two meet, and he outright ignores anything good the guy does.
** [[Characters/XMenOtherTeams [[Characters/NewXMenAcademyX Surge]], whose Jerkass tendencies have been blown way out of proportion. While she was initially depicted as being kind of a JerkAss, it's understandable (she was disowned by her father for being a mutant and was a bum who had to take drugs to sort-of control her powers), she was always more of a JerkWithAHeartOfGold and she was always kind to those she considered friends. While she was always an outspoken, rebellious smart ass, her later depictions make her much harder to sympathise with as she has been portrayed as an unrelenting bitch and it has become her most dominant characteristic. She has since entered Comic Book Limbo, ComicBookLimbo, though her brief appearance in ''Avengers Academy'' ''ComicBook/AvengersAcademy'' had her being more reasonable, and had her revert to her old portrayal of JerkWithAHeartOfGold.
** [[Characters/XMenVillains [[Characters/XMenMojoverse Mojo]] was introduced in a miniseries as a psychotic EldritchAbomination obsessed whose very presence actually caused living things to wither and die and who casually committed MindRape. He also commissioned genetically-engineered slaves to act in movies to entertain him. Even Comicbook/DoctorStrange feared what would happen if he stayed on Earth for long. As soon as he was brought into the main X-Men comics, the mystical powers and murderous demeanor were downplayed and the media obsession was turned UpToEleven, so Mojo immediately became a comedic villain used to spoof the entertainment industry. He's still pretty damn horrible, though, and his comedic personality makes it worse when he does something like torturing Nocturne ForTheEvulz, or cheerfully sending someone to ''have their spine freaking removed''.
** Wolverine's daughter/sister/OppositeSexClone, ComicBook/{{X 23}} suffers from much of the same treatment as he does. Once her [[ComicBook/InnocenceLost backstory]] was revealed, Laura was established as a highly-skilled fighter, and a [[GeniusBruiser very intelligent]] and [[BadassBookworm highly educated]] young girl with extensive assassin and black ops training, while ''[[ComicBook/NewMutants ''[[ComicBook/NewXMenAcademyX New X-Men]]'' expanded upon this further by revealing her to be a gifted strategist as well. Most writers now completely ignore everything after "highly-skilled fighter," and give her all the subtlety in combat of LeeroyJenkins. This is most egregious in ''ComicBook/AvengersArena'', where the writers give lipservice to her training and AwesomenessByAnalysis, and ''still'' have her decide the best strategy for taking down Apex (who is controlling a ''Sentinel'') is a [[IdiotBall direct frontal assault]]. Even the trigger scent has been subject to this. Initially, the conditioning the Facility subjected Laura to resulted in her rages focusing specifically on whatever was marked by the scent. By the time her solo series and ''Avengers Arena'' rolled around, the scent was now sending her after ''everything in sight''.
** The Beast, ComicBook/{{Beast|MarvelComics}}, a bit of a DumbJock in his early appearances, has become more frequently characterized by SesquipedalianLoquaciousness and a handful of catchphrases.



** A number of writers sadly only ever saw ComicBook/JeanGrey as either the Phoenix or "that cute girl Cyclops and Wolverine fight over." Jean Grey's reputation as the person who [[FirstLawOfResurrection resurrects frequently]] has been further exaggerated, with ''Phoenix – Endsong'' demonstrating multiple deaths and resurrections over a few pages, further lampshaded in ''Deadly Genesis'', when Scott and Logan react to the possibility of her resurrection in the same panel. In ''[[ComicBook/AdjectivelessXMen X-Men]]'' vol 4, the possibility of Jean Grey resurrecting was further discussed when her DNA became a plot point in the creation of a host for Madelyne Pryor.
** [[Characters/XMenRoguesGallery Mr. Sinister]] is an interesting case. Originally introduced by Creator/ChrisClaremont as something of an evil cipher, little was known about Sinister other than that he was a MadScientist and that he was obsessed with Cyclops for some reason. Claremont had originally planned for a long, drawn-out reveal (in his [[KudzuPlot usual style]]) that would have established Sinister as an 8 year old boy with the mutant power of aging very, very slowly -- as in, he was already over 100 years old when he was in the orphanage with Scott despite his body still being 8 -- using the Sinister persona as a front. Claremont's abrupt departure shelved this plan, and so a new origin story was created for Sinister, one in which he was a scientist from Victorian England granted power and immortality by perennial X-Men BigBad ComicBook/{{Apocalypse}}.. This new origin story portrayed him as something of a TragicVillain, and most of the stories of the time followed suit to greater or lesser degrees. But beginning with 2002's ''Weapon X'' a new interpretation for Sinister was introduced, one which hewed closer to the Claremontian Mad Scientist but also cranked his evil quotient UpToEleven by making him an {{Expy}} of infamous Nazi scientist Josef Mengele. Since that time Sinister's become increasingly more affiliated with the Nazi regime, increasingly more [[NaziNobleman Nazi-like in general]], and increasingly more prone to playing the PoliticallyIncorrectVillain.

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** A number of writers sadly only ever saw ComicBook/JeanGrey as either the Phoenix or "that cute girl [[LoveTriangle Cyclops and Wolverine fight over.over]]." Jean Grey's reputation as the person who [[FirstLawOfResurrection resurrects frequently]] has been further exaggerated, with ''Phoenix – Endsong'' demonstrating multiple deaths and resurrections over a few pages, further lampshaded in ''Deadly Genesis'', when Scott and Logan react to the possibility of her resurrection in the same panel. In ''[[ComicBook/AdjectivelessXMen X-Men]]'' vol 4, the possibility of Jean Grey resurrecting was further discussed when her DNA became a plot point in the creation of a host for Madelyne Pryor.
** [[Characters/XMenRoguesGallery Mr. Sinister]] ComicBook/MisterSinister is an interesting case. Originally introduced by Creator/ChrisClaremont as something of an evil cipher, little was known about Sinister other than that he was a MadScientist and that he was obsessed with Cyclops for some reason. Claremont had originally planned for a long, drawn-out reveal (in his [[KudzuPlot usual style]]) that would have established Sinister as an 8 year old boy with the mutant power of aging very, very slowly -- as in, he was already over 100 years old when he was in the orphanage with Scott despite his body still being 8 -- using the Sinister persona as a front. Claremont's abrupt departure shelved this plan, and so a new origin story was created for Sinister, one in which he was a scientist from Victorian England granted power and immortality by perennial X-Men BigBad ComicBook/{{Apocalypse}}.. This new origin story portrayed him as something of a TragicVillain, and most of the stories of the time followed suit to greater or lesser degrees. But beginning with 2002's ''Weapon X'' a new interpretation for Sinister was introduced, one which hewed closer to the Claremontian Mad Scientist but also cranked his evil quotient UpToEleven by making him an {{Expy}} of infamous Nazi scientist Josef Mengele. Since that time Sinister's become increasingly more affiliated with the Nazi regime, increasingly more [[NaziNobleman Nazi-like in general]], and increasingly more prone to playing the PoliticallyIncorrectVillain.




!!!Other Comics
* ''Comicbook/{{Asterix}}'':
** DreadfulMusician Cacofonix starts out as at least an average bard - Asterix blows off listening to his music once due to being busy (which annoyed him) and the people sitting near to his performance at the final banquet are cringing with their hands over their ears, but the villagers also perform a plot-important traditional dance to his music with every indication that they are enjoying it. As the comic progresses, other characters (especially Fulliautomatix the blacksmith) start beating him up to prevent him from singing, which develops into a running gag, and he's shown to live in a hut at the top of a tree, where no-one can hear him. By the time Uderzo took over writing, he was so bad that he causes rain whenever he plays, which develops to the point where he ends up being so bad that merely playing a few notes creates an apocalyptic rainstorm that lasts for days.
** Obelix also developed, mostly because of the artwork - he starts out as an [[TheBigGuy angular, burly warrior with hairy arms and big, pointed horns on his helmet]] with a surlier and more straightforward attitude, but gets a rounder, softer, more childlike look with beatific expressions and little nubby horns to suit his [[TheFool increasingly innocent]], slightly CloudCuckooLander, childlike personality within the first few books.
* In a strange case of [[ArtEvolution graphical]] {{Flanderization}}, Kingdok from ''ComicBook/{{Bone}}'' gets more monstrous each issue.
* ''ComicBook/{{Crossed}}'': For the first half of the ''Wish You Were Here'' storyline (an arc taking up four paperback volumes) Don is a PragmaticHero whose fairly competent but a bit slimy and visibly pleased with being in charge. By the end of volume three his obsession with power is about his only character trait and he's willing to go to war with a much larger faction and take a baby hostage just to avoid having his group members abandon him. Likewise, Elisa starts out as a simple ActionGirl who doesn't shy away from combat due to it providing a distraction. Then, in volume two, Elisa is portrayed as more eager to take the fight to the [[TechnicallyLivingZombie Crossed]] but arguably more focused on matters of security and the good of the group. By the third volume she's a flat-out BloodKnight, seemingly identical in personality to Des (whose established as a BloodKnight who acts as if he has nothing else to live for from the start): displaying apparent horror at the idea of a life with no more fighting.



* WesternAnimation/DonaldDuck and Scrooge's portrayal in early Italian-produced comics exaggerated their character traits from the American comic of the time to comical extremes. Donald became a narcoleptic with a complete aversion to any kind of physical work and so dumb he genuinely believed two plus two equaled five point five, who treated his nephews more like slaves than family. Scrooge on the other hand was stunningly violent and cruel towards absolutely everyone, with zero aversions towards outright criminal acts (one story mentioning he made a lot of his fortune from running an opium smuggling cartel), usually getting away with anything and everything purely because he was rich. The characters would eventually morph back into something more closely resembling their America counterparts.
* Magica [=DeSpell=]'s obsession with Scrooge [=McDuck=]'s NumberOneDime. Though her introduction does have her focused on attempting to steal it, other Creator/CarlBarks stories usually had Magica simply wanting to become rich, and would often have her working on schemes completely unrelated to the dime. Nowadays, she's completely psychotic about that coin, and you rarely, if ever, see a Magica story without it as her prime goal anymore. The dime itself also went through a sort of Flanderization. In the original story with Magica the dime had no initial magic powers. Magica just needed it as a spell component. Later writers seem to have missed this point and decided that the dime was somehow the source of Scrooge's wealth. In some stories, Scrooge can lose the dime over simple theft and suddenly his entire empire is crumbling. Creator/DonRosa [[TakeThat mocks this]] in the GrandFinale of ''Comicbook/TheLifeAndTimesOfScroogeMcDuck'', where the Flanderization [[LeaningOnTheFourthWall extends to rumors in-universe]]. Scrooge finds the idea that he owes his entire fortune to a lucky charm (which he had for ''twenty years'' before he even started to make his fortune!) incredibly insulting. That said, Rosa's take on the characters has also that Magica's spell would indeed work should she get her hands on the coin, and that losing the dime would indeed cause Scrooge to lose such spirit that he'd be no match for his enemies.
* When the ''ComicStrip/LittleLulu'' comics first introduced [[MeaningfulName Wilbur Van Snobbe]], he was accurately depicted as a {{Jerkass}} SpoiledBrat who would go out of his way to try to best either Lulu or Tubby, with no success. However, when the anime version was created, the creators took away his snobbish characteristics and turned him into a well-mannered rich boy who served as TheSmartGuy to Lulu and the others. Then, when ''The Little Lulu Show'' was created, his snobbish personality was fortunately returned intact, just like in the original comics.
* ''ComicBook/LuckyLuke'': Jolly Jumper, while capable of some impressive feats, was actually just a normal horse during the early comics and drawn as [[http://forbiddenplanet.blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/IMG_00024.jpg such]]. His intelligence got more and more played up once Creator/ReneGoscinny took over the writing, eventually leading to him being given a much more [[https://i.pinimg.com/736x/af/06/59/af06594c05778071fd1268d9921177db--lucky-luke-memorie.jpg cartoony]] look, capable of [[TalkingAnimal Animal speech]] and feats no normal horse should be capable of.
* In his first appearances in the comics, Grouchy Smurf from ''Franchise/TheSmurfs'' was perfectly capable of carrying on a normal conversation, even with his grouchy attitude. Over time, though, his Mad Libs Catch Phrase of "I hate (...)" became more and more prominent in his dialogue, and by the time the cartoon came around, almost all of Grouchy's dialogue was based solely around declaring his hatred for whatever the others were talking about at the time.
* ''ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehogArchieComics'':
** Sonic's attitude has been cranked UpToEleven, to the point where he's making wisecracks during a battle with Enerjak, a being with seemingly limitless energy (though this may have been more for comic relief than anything, it was a tad excessive). [[Administrivia/TropesAreTools To be fair]], though, it seems to have slightly boosted his badassness--at the cost of emotion (again, though, to be fair, he never really showed much emotion anyway). The part about emotion is slowly being subverted as of #200; ever since Sonic's apparently driven Robotnik totally, droolingly insane, he seems to actually regret having broken down the guy so completely.
** An aversion may come from the early comics, which had a much zanier and cartoony format thus exaggerated a lot of the characters' traits compared to their ''[[WesternAnimation/SonicTheHedgehogSatAM SatAm]]'' counterparts, e.g. Sonic existed as a KarmicTrickster with a TotallyRadical mannerisms akin to his ''[[WesternAnimation/AdventuresOfSonicTheHedgehog AoStH]]'' counterpart, Sally's somewhat neurotic and no-nonsense attitude was exaggerated into a spoiled, mean-tempered prude and Robotnik was converted into even bigger a bumbling CardCarryingVillain than his 'Eggman' incarnations. This was reversed as the comic's writing tone became more serious and akin to the show, though some genuine cases of flanderization do pop up on occasion.
** [[VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog2006 Silver the Hedgehog]] is cranked up of his stupidity from the original game's appearance as this time he starts accusing ''everybody'' in Freedom Fighters one by one as a traitor at the drop of a hat. It gets so ridiculous not only Sonic stops taking him seriously, but starts hating his guts because the guy's accusing people who [[DudeNotFunny happens to recently get injured, leave the team, or be mind controlled.]]
** Shadow deserves a mention, the calm and pragmatic anti hero he was in games, has increased his pride and lack of hindsight in the comic series. Feels he constantly has to prove himself as the ultimate and gets mocked for his no nonsense attitude due to the comic making light on his serious methods towards threats. He always gets into situations in harsh and reckless ways especially against powerful enemies like Scourge or ADAM biting off more than he can chew. He goes into a [[BerserkButton roaring rampage of revenge]] when he loses to those same threats and his pride crushed making him more a sore loser.



* ComicBook/LuckyLuke: Jolly Jumper, while capable of some impressive feats, was actually just a normal horse during the early comics and drawn as [[http://forbiddenplanet.blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/IMG_00024.jpg such]]. His intelligence got more and more played up once ReneGoscinny took over the writing, eventually leading to him being given a much more [[https://i.pinimg.com/736x/af/06/59/af06594c05778071fd1268d9921177db--lucky-luke-memorie.jpg cartoony]] look, capable of [[TalkingAnimal Animal speech]] and feats no normal horse should be capable of.
* ''ComicBook/{{Runaways}}'' has suffered a few cases of this over the years:
** In the second series, Nico struggled to adjust to leadership, and the stress of trying to lead a team that had deliberately been designed to be dysfunctional caused her to do rash things like kiss Chase or make a deal with her evil ancestor to gain more control over her powers. When the third series came around, the writers made her increasingly Machiavellian, willing to use magic on her own teammates to control them. On the other hand, after ''ComicBook/AvengersArena'', in which Nico lost her arm and developed PTSD, writers began moving in the opposite direction, with her constantly doubting herself.
** In the first two series, Molly was childish, as one might expect from an 11-year-old, but also intelligent, often managing to outwit other people. Around the time of the third series, the "intelligent" part went away and she simply became childish.
** Klara's unfamiliarity with modern culture has been exaggerated to the point where she once mistook Tigra for a prostitute. Over the years, she has also gradually transformed from a mostly-sane little girl who had trouble reconciling her religious beliefs with the reality of her life to a dangerously mentally-ill CreepyChild.
* ComicBook/AmandaWaller was introduced as a tough, no-nonsense woman whose standoffish demeanor hid a lot of trauma and guilt. While she did morally dubious things, she was also willing to put her career on the line for the Suicide Squad and defy the U.S. government when they went against her moral compass. These days she's depicted as a sociopath with a WeHaveReserves mentality toward the Squad and a MyCountryRightOrWrong attitude.
* ''ComicBook/WonderWoman1942'':
** Once Kanigher's main story and Wonder Woman was based on Earth-One he started exaggerating the Amazons' weaknesses on Earth-Two, meant to house the original Wondy. While in the original tales an Amazon having their bracelets welded together by a man drained their Amazon super strength they were still stronger than human with Diana having snapped such chains with her own strength on numerous occasions, just with a bit more effort, Kanigher has Diana becoming faint and not having the strength to even walk upright when her bracelets are welded by a man.
** Kanigher's Earth-Two Etta had all of her character stripped away so that she was just a plump lady who is constantly eating candy, rather than a tough prankster who loved a good fist fight who just so happened to be overweight and like sweets.

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* ComicBook/LuckyLuke: Jolly Jumper, while capable of some impressive feats, was Creator/AlanMoore's ''ComicBook/TopTen'' has [[ShockAndAwe Shock Headed Peter]] who comes off at first as simply a prejudiced working class cop who actually just a normal horse during the early comics and drawn as [[http://forbiddenplanet.blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/IMG_00024.jpg such]]. His intelligence got more and more played up once ReneGoscinny took over the writing, eventually leading to him being given a much more [[https://i.pinimg.com/736x/af/06/59/af06594c05778071fd1268d9921177db--lucky-luke-memorie.jpg cartoony]] look, capable of [[TalkingAnimal Animal speech]] and feats no normal horse should be capable of.
* ''ComicBook/{{Runaways}}''
has suffered a few cases of this over the years:
** In the second series, Nico struggled to adjust to leadership, and the stress of trying to lead a team that had deliberately been designed to be dysfunctional caused her to do rash things like kiss Chase or make a deal with her evil ancestor to gain more control over her powers. When the third series came around, the writers made her increasingly Machiavellian, willing to use magic on her own teammates to control them. On the other hand, after ''ComicBook/AvengersArena'', in which Nico lost her arm and developed PTSD, writers began moving in the opposite direction, with her constantly doubting herself.
** In the first two series, Molly was childish, as one might expect from an 11-year-old, but also intelligent, often managing to outwit other people. Around the time of the third series, the "intelligent" part went away and she simply became childish.
** Klara's unfamiliarity with modern culture has been exaggerated to the point where she once mistook Tigra for a prostitute. Over the years, she has also gradually transformed from a mostly-sane little girl who had trouble reconciling her religious beliefs with the reality of her life
some character depth to a dangerously mentally-ill CreepyChild.
* ComicBook/AmandaWaller was
2-D {{Straw|Character}} [[FantasticRacism Robo-Racist]] when a Robot character gets introduced as a tough, no-nonsense woman whose standoffish demeanor hid a lot of trauma and guilt. While she did morally dubious things, she was also willing to put her career on the line for the Suicide Squad and defy the U.S. government when they went against her moral compass. These days she's depicted as a sociopath with a WeHaveReserves mentality toward the Squad and a MyCountryRightOrWrong attitude.
* ''ComicBook/WonderWoman1942'':
** Once Kanigher's main story and Wonder Woman was based on Earth-One he started exaggerating the Amazons' weaknesses on Earth-Two, meant to house the original Wondy. While in the original tales an Amazon having their bracelets welded together by a man drained their Amazon super strength they were still stronger than human with Diana having snapped such chains with her own strength on numerous occasions, just with a bit more effort, Kanigher has Diana becoming faint and not having the strength to even walk upright when her bracelets are welded by a man.
** Kanigher's Earth-Two Etta had all of her character stripped away so that she was just a plump lady who is constantly eating candy, rather than a tough prankster who loved a good fist fight who just so happened to be overweight and like sweets.
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** ComicBook/JimmyHudson started in ''ComicBook/UltimateXMen'' as the son of Wolverine, he had WolverineClaws and a healing factor, but other than that he had his own personality, in many aspects in contrast with that of Wolverine. The comic played with this, balancing between the similarities and the divergences. The ComicBook/UltimateMarvel comics ceased to be published in 2015, but he was rescued and incorporated to ComicBook/XMenBlue. In this comic, however, he became a full-time WolverineWannabe, a teenager "Wolverine" alongside the teenager original time-displaced X-Men.

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** In the last few years, [[ComicBook/{{Batgirl}} Cassandra Cain]] went from an outsider with an AmbiguousDisorder and a good deal of emotional issues. to a childish girl who's lonely and sad all of the time.

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** In the last few years, [[ComicBook/{{Batgirl}} Cassandra Cain]] went from an outsider with an AmbiguousDisorder and a good deal of emotional issues. issues, to a childish girl who's lonely and sad all of the time.time.
** Also in recent years, Bruce's tendency to mistreat other members of his family when under severe emotional stress. This goes as far back as Jason Todd's death back in the eighties, but it never got 'out of hand', so to speak. He never did anything that was completely unforgiveable, and there were always plenty of heartwarming moments to set-off anything that seemed too cruel, proving that Bruce ''did'' care. These days, you get stuff like beating the hell out of Dick Grayson after he was exposed as Nightwing to essentially force him to go FakingTheDead (and not telling a single other member of the family) so he can do an undercover mission -- and that was after Damian's death, someone that both Bruce ''and'' Dick were still heavily mourning at the time. Then there was the time he nearly beat Jason ''to death'' after Jason shot the Penguin; no matter what Jason did, it didn't warrant that kind of brutality, and became especially HarsherInHindsight after it was revealed that Jason hadn't intended to kill Penguin at all. Why did he do that? [[DisproportionateRetribution Because Selina left him at the altar]]. Now he's gone from mere mistreatment to flat-out abuse, landing him solidly in DesignatedHero territory and making many fans wonder why the rest of the Bat-Family sticks by him at all, especially when he never apologizes for anything he's done.
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* UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks is basically one huge flanderization of UsefulNotes/TheBronzeAgeOfComicBooks, especially the "{{dark|erAndEdgier}}" contents.
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** Killer Croc was originally a somewhat intelligent gangster with a medical condition (a ''very severe'' medical condition), whose misanthropy was the result of being tormented by everyone (family included) for his freakish appearance. This was eventually downplayed, with Croc becoming more bestial and less intelligent as time went on (this was typically explained that his condition was worsening, further separating him from humanity). By the time of ''Hush'', Croc could probably pass for a bulkier AlternateCompanyEquivalent of [[Characters/SpiderManRoguesGallery the Lizard]] (explained away by Hush infecting him with a virus that further increased his mutation).

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** Killer Croc was originally a somewhat intelligent gangster with a medical condition (a ''very severe'' medical condition), whose misanthropy was the result of being tormented by everyone (family included) for his freakish appearance. This was eventually downplayed, with Croc becoming more bestial and less intelligent as time went on (this was typically explained that his condition was worsening, further separating him from humanity). By the time of ''Hush'', Croc could probably pass for a bulkier AlternateCompanyEquivalent of [[Characters/SpiderManRoguesGallery [[Characters/SpiderManCentralRoguesGallery the Lizard]] (explained away by Hush infecting him with a virus that further increased his mutation).
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** Similarly, [[ComicBook/RobinSeries Tim Drake]] started off as a normal teenager who happened to also be a fairly gifted detective, and was naturally skilled in crime fighting despite being 14. As things went on, he became TheSmartGuy of not just the Bat Family, but also the entirety of the teenaged population of the DCU, smart enough to research ''cloning'' technology that, while it didn't pan out, was said that he was only a year or so away from successfully cloning Superboy and Impulse according to the Titans Tomorrow story arc (and not just real life 'start as a baby' cloning, but actually recreate them, memories and all). He also became ''far'' more nerdy, to the point he's massively neurotic and over-analyses everything. And, inverting Steph, while he started off as a realist, he was also rather idealistic, but slowly his life became so filled with hell that he broke down until he was as broody as Batman himself. Like Steph, many fans ''like'' [[{{Adorkable}} this about]] [[TheWoobie Timmy]], but a lot of people really don't, as he became popular ''because'' he was the most relatable Robin.

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** Similarly, [[ComicBook/RobinSeries Tim Drake]] started off as a normal teenager who happened to also be a fairly gifted detective, and was naturally skilled in crime fighting despite being 14. As things went on, he became TheSmartGuy of not just the Bat Family, but also the entirety of the teenaged population of the DCU, smart enough to research ''cloning'' technology that, while it didn't pan out, was said that he was only a year or so away from successfully cloning Superboy and Impulse according to the Titans Tomorrow story arc (and not just real life 'start as a baby' cloning, but actually recreate them, memories and all). He also became ''far'' more nerdy, to the point he's massively neurotic and over-analyses everything. And, inverting Steph, while he started off as a realist, he was also rather idealistic, but slowly his life became so filled with hell that he broke down until he was as broody as Batman himself. Like Steph, many fans ''like'' [[{{Adorkable}} this about]] about [[TheWoobie Timmy]], but a lot of people really don't, as he became popular ''because'' he was the most relatable Robin.
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** Obelix also developed, mostly because of the artwork - he starts out as an [[TheBigGuy angular, burly warrior with hairy arms and big, pointed horns on his helmet]] with a more stupid, surly and straightforward attitude, but gets a rounder, softer, more childlike look with beatific expressions and little nubby horns to suit his [[TheFool increasingly innocent]], slightly CloudCuckooLander, childlike personality within the first few books.

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** Obelix also developed, mostly because of the artwork - he starts out as an [[TheBigGuy angular, burly warrior with hairy arms and big, pointed horns on his helmet]] with a surlier and more stupid, surly and straightforward attitude, but gets a rounder, softer, more childlike look with beatific expressions and little nubby horns to suit his [[TheFool increasingly innocent]], slightly CloudCuckooLander, childlike personality within the first few books.
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* ''ComicBook/{{Crossed}}'': For the first half of the ''Wish You Were Here'' storyline (an arc taking up four paperback volumes) Don is a PragmaticHero whose fairly competent but a bit slimy and visibily pleased with being in charge. By the end of volume three his obsession with power is about his only character trait and he's willing to go to war with a much larger faction and take a baby hostage just to avoid having his group members abandon him. Likewise, Elisa starts out as a simple ActionGirl who doesn't shy away from combat due to it providing a distraction. Then, in volume two, Elisa is portrayed as more eager to take the fight to the [[TechnicallyLivingZombie Crossed]] but arguably more focused on matters of security and the good of the group. By the third volume she's a flat-out BloodKnight, seemingly identical in personality to Des (whose established as a BloodKnight who acts as if he has nothing else to live for from the start): displaying apparent horror at the idea of a life with no more fighting.
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** An aversion may come from the early comics, which had a much zanier and cartoony format thus exaggerated a lot of the characters' traits compared to their ''[[WesternAnimation/SonicSatAM SatAm]]'' counterparts, e.g. Sonic existed as a KarmicTrickster with a TotallyRadical mannerisms akin to his ''[[WesternAnimation/AdventuresOfSonicTheHedgehog AoStH]]'' counterpart, Sally's somewhat neurotic and no-nonsense attitude was exaggerated into a spoiled, mean-tempered prude and Robotnik was converted into even bigger a bumbling CardCarryingVillain than his 'Eggman' incarnations. This was reversed as the comic's writing tone became more serious and akin to the show, though some genuine cases of flanderization do pop up on occasion.

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** An aversion may come from the early comics, which had a much zanier and cartoony format thus exaggerated a lot of the characters' traits compared to their ''[[WesternAnimation/SonicSatAM ''[[WesternAnimation/SonicTheHedgehogSatAM SatAm]]'' counterparts, e.g. Sonic existed as a KarmicTrickster with a TotallyRadical mannerisms akin to his ''[[WesternAnimation/AdventuresOfSonicTheHedgehog AoStH]]'' counterpart, Sally's somewhat neurotic and no-nonsense attitude was exaggerated into a spoiled, mean-tempered prude and Robotnik was converted into even bigger a bumbling CardCarryingVillain than his 'Eggman' incarnations. This was reversed as the comic's writing tone became more serious and akin to the show, though some genuine cases of flanderization do pop up on occasion.
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* During Joe Kelly's run, SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}} was a talkative loon full of bad jokes and other wackiness. However he was also portrayed as a total psychotic with a loose, at best, grasp of sanity. All the wackiness was a cover to hide his immense mental problems and self-loathing and just the slightest nudge could send him over the edge in a violent, unsettling rage. Most subsequent writers pretty much ignore the latter part and play him up as little more than a goofy comedy character. That being said, [[Administrivia/TropesAreTools the character's popularity has, if anything, skyrocketed]] since his flanderization and his flanderized version has since become his more iconic and well-recognized version. It helps that Marvel already has characters to fill the [[ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} Canadian with Rage Issues, Regenerating Healing Powers, and a convoluted backstory complicated by Swiss-Cheese Memory]], and [[Franchise/SpiderMan a flamboyant joke-cracker in a red costume, whose snark covers up his inner angst]] roles. On the other hand, the Duggen[=/=]Posehn run has achieved no small amount of acclaim for its CharacterRerailment, which came at a time when Deadpool's "wacky all the time" shtick was considered to have gone stale.

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* During Joe Kelly's run, SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}} the first ongoing ''ComicBook/{{Deadpool}}'' series and in ''ComicBook/CableAndDeadpool'', Deadpool was a talkative loon full of bad jokes and other wackiness. However However, he was also portrayed as a total psychotic with a loose, at best, grasp of sanity. All the wackiness was a cover to hide his immense mental problems and self-loathing and just the slightest nudge could send him over the edge in a violent, unsettling rage. Most subsequent writers pretty much ignore the latter part and play him up as little more than a goofy comedy character. That being said, His [[Administrivia/TropesAreTools the character's popularity has, if anything, skyrocketed]] since after his flanderization and his flanderized version has since become became his more iconic and well-recognized version. It helps that Marvel already has characters to fill the [[ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} Canadian with Rage Issues, Regenerating Healing Powers, and a convoluted backstory complicated by Swiss-Cheese Memory]], and [[Franchise/SpiderMan a flamboyant joke-cracker in a red costume, whose snark covers up his inner angst]] roles. On the other hand, the Duggen[=/=]Posehn run has achieved no small amount of acclaim for its CharacterRerailment, which came at a time when After Deadpool's flanderized "wacky all the time" shtick was considered to have gone stale.got stale with many fans, the Duggen[=/=]Posehn run achieved acclaim for its CharacterRerailment.
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** Once Kanigher's main story and Wonder Woman was based on Earth-One he started exaggerating the Amazons' weaknesses on Earth-Two, meant to house the original Wondy. While in the original tales an Amazon having their bracelets welded together by a man drained their Amazon super strength they were still stronger than human with Diana having snapped such chains with her own strength on numerous occasions, just with a bit more effort, Kanigher has Diana becoming faint and not having the strength to even walk upright when her bracelets are welded by a man.
** Kanigher's Earth-Two Etta had all of her character stripped away so that she was just a plump lady who is constantly eating candy, rather than a tough prankster who loved a good fist fight who just so happened to be overweight and like sweets.
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* DonaldDuck and Scrooge's portrayal in early Italian-produced comics exaggerated their character traits from the American comic of the time to comical extremes. Donald became a narcoleptic with a complete aversion to any kind of physical work and so dumb he genuinely believed two plus two equaled five point five, who treated his nephews more like slaves than family. Scrooge on the other hand was stunningly violent and cruel towards absolutely everyone, with zero aversions towards outright criminal acts (one story mentioning he made a lot of his fortune from running an opium smuggling cartel), usually getting away with anything and everything purely because he was rich. The characters would eventually morph back into something more closely resembling their America counterparts.

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* DonaldDuck WesternAnimation/DonaldDuck and Scrooge's portrayal in early Italian-produced comics exaggerated their character traits from the American comic of the time to comical extremes. Donald became a narcoleptic with a complete aversion to any kind of physical work and so dumb he genuinely believed two plus two equaled five point five, who treated his nephews more like slaves than family. Scrooge on the other hand was stunningly violent and cruel towards absolutely everyone, with zero aversions towards outright criminal acts (one story mentioning he made a lot of his fortune from running an opium smuggling cartel), usually getting away with anything and everything purely because he was rich. The characters would eventually morph back into something more closely resembling their America counterparts.



* ''Franchise/GreenLantern'': The Guardians Of The Universe have always been distant and aloof, but were once wise and respected, having created [[SpacePolice an organization of star-patrolling peacekeepers]] that has survived for eons. With each passing year though, they become more incompetent, single-minded, and corrupt, lying to their members, holding their own mysterious agendas, and constantly having their mistakes blow up in the faces and inevitably needing to be saved by the Earth Lanterns (and then clearly resenting the aid). One comic even had a Guardian admit he didn't remember why they started the Corp in the first place. By this point, it's a genuine curiosity how they got an organization as advanced and well-functioning as the Green Lanterns working outside of dumb luck. This could be unintentional FridgeBrilliance, as the Guardians are literally as old as the universe itself and ''long'' overdue to losing their wits to old age.

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* ''Franchise/GreenLantern'': The Guardians Of The Universe have always been distant and aloof, but were once wise and respected, having created [[SpacePolice an organization of star-patrolling peacekeepers]] that has survived for eons. With each passing year though, they become more incompetent, single-minded, and corrupt, lying to their members, holding their own mysterious agendas, and constantly having their mistakes blow up in the faces and inevitably needing to be saved by the Earth Lanterns (and then clearly resenting the aid). One comic even had a Guardian admit he didn't remember why they started the Corp in the first place. By this point, it's a genuine curiosity how they got an organization as advanced and well-functioning as the Green Lanterns working outside of dumb luck. This could be unintentional FridgeBrilliance, as the Guardians are literally as old as the universe itself and ''long'' overdue to losing their wits to old age.
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* ComicBook/NormanOsborn started off as a corrupt businessman who had a loving, but strained relationship with his son; he had one of his collegues arrested with fake charges and he genuinely thought giving Harry expensive stuff was enough to keep him happy. Even his motive as the Goblin was simple: he wanted to become a crime boss to see if he could, [[MotiveDecay which later warped into a desire to kill Spider-man]] for always stopping him. When Spidey found out who the Goblin was, he asked Norman if Harry would be proud of him, which caused Norman to lose his composure and led to his defeat and amnesia. When Harry's depression led to his famous drug problem, Norman's inability to understand his son led him to believe Harry's friends were behind it, which caused a panic attack powerful enough to bring back his memories of the goblin -- every time he thought about Harry suffering, he himself suffered a mental breakdown. [[DeathIsCheap Then Norman died, and was brought back decades later]]. During this time he was supposedly a crime boss in Europe, was the mastermind behind ComicBook/TheCloneSaga and had developed a dislike for his son, to the point he was willing to kill him without any real reason to do so. Nowadays his villainy consists of trying to take over the world, mass murder, spreading the goblin formula thorugh manhattan to cause chaos, and has even been bonded with Carnage and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking plastic surgery has turned his face]] into [[EvilMakesYouUgly a mess]]. He is also implied to hate every minority -- [[StrawMisogynist most famously women]] -- under the sun, and it's even been noted that Norman Osborn is now worse than the Goblin ever was.
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** To a lesser extent, Stephanie Brown started off as a somewhat cynical and troubled girl with low self esteem who was also fairly snarky and a little quirky, but through character development she learnt to let go of her troubles and focus on the positives, but was still constantly facing painful troubles. [[ComicBook/{{Batgirl 2009}} By the time she became the new Batgirl]], though, she became known as 'the fun one' of the Bat family, being full of hope regardless of what the family faces. In a case of TropesAreNotBad, most fans generally ''like'' this move, and enjoy the fact it makes Steph stand out among the OFTEN troubled and angsty members of the Bat Family.

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** To a lesser extent, Stephanie Brown started off as a somewhat cynical and troubled girl with low self esteem who was also fairly snarky and a little quirky, but through character development she learnt to let go of her troubles and focus on the positives, but was still constantly facing painful troubles. [[ComicBook/{{Batgirl 2009}} By the time she became the new Batgirl]], though, she became known as 'the fun one' of the Bat family, being full of hope regardless of what the family faces. In a case of TropesAreNotBad, Administrivia/TropesAreNotBad, most fans generally ''like'' this move, and enjoy the fact it makes Steph stand out among the OFTEN troubled and angsty members of the Bat Family.
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** Sonic's attitude has been cranked UpToEleven, to the point where he's making wisecracks during a battle with Enerjak, a being with seemingly limitless energy (though this may have been more for comic relief than anything, it was a tad excessive). [[TropesAreTools To be fair]], though, it seems to have slightly boosted his badassness--at the cost of emotion (again, though, to be fair, he never really showed much emotion anyway). The part about emotion is slowly being subverted as of #200; ever since Sonic's apparently driven Robotnik totally, droolingly insane, he seems to actually regret having broken down the guy so completely.

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** Sonic's attitude has been cranked UpToEleven, to the point where he's making wisecracks during a battle with Enerjak, a being with seemingly limitless energy (though this may have been more for comic relief than anything, it was a tad excessive). [[TropesAreTools [[Administrivia/TropesAreTools To be fair]], though, it seems to have slightly boosted his badassness--at the cost of emotion (again, though, to be fair, he never really showed much emotion anyway). The part about emotion is slowly being subverted as of #200; ever since Sonic's apparently driven Robotnik totally, droolingly insane, he seems to actually regret having broken down the guy so completely.



* During Joe Kelly's run, SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}} was a talkative loon full of bad jokes and other wackiness. However he was also portrayed as a total psychotic with a loose, at best, grasp of sanity. All the wackiness was a cover to hide his immense mental problems and self-loathing and just the slightest nudge could send him over the edge in a violent, unsettling rage. Most subsequent writers pretty much ignore the latter part and play him up as little more than a goofy comedy character. That being said, [[TropesAreTools the character's popularity has, if anything, skyrocketed]] since his flanderization and his flanderized version has since become his more iconic and well-recognized version. It helps that Marvel already has characters to fill the [[ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} Canadian with Rage Issues, Regenerating Healing Powers, and a convoluted backstory complicated by Swiss-Cheese Memory]], and [[Franchise/SpiderMan a flamboyant joke-cracker in a red costume, whose snark covers up his inner angst]] roles. On the other hand, the Duggen[=/=]Posehn run has achieved no small amount of acclaim for its CharacterRerailment, which came at a time when Deadpool's "wacky all the time" shtick was considered to have gone stale.

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* During Joe Kelly's run, SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}} was a talkative loon full of bad jokes and other wackiness. However he was also portrayed as a total psychotic with a loose, at best, grasp of sanity. All the wackiness was a cover to hide his immense mental problems and self-loathing and just the slightest nudge could send him over the edge in a violent, unsettling rage. Most subsequent writers pretty much ignore the latter part and play him up as little more than a goofy comedy character. That being said, [[TropesAreTools [[Administrivia/TropesAreTools the character's popularity has, if anything, skyrocketed]] since his flanderization and his flanderized version has since become his more iconic and well-recognized version. It helps that Marvel already has characters to fill the [[ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} Canadian with Rage Issues, Regenerating Healing Powers, and a convoluted backstory complicated by Swiss-Cheese Memory]], and [[Franchise/SpiderMan a flamboyant joke-cracker in a red costume, whose snark covers up his inner angst]] roles. On the other hand, the Duggen[=/=]Posehn run has achieved no small amount of acclaim for its CharacterRerailment, which came at a time when Deadpool's "wacky all the time" shtick was considered to have gone stale.
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** As of ''ComicBook/SecretEmpire'', Hank [[spoiler: after having merged with Ultron]], finally snaps and calls out the then 'Captain HYDRA' Steve and the AI version for all the stuff that they've pulled which, especially in Tony's case (Steve was morally flipped against his will), makes the incident with Janet, awful as it was, look like a playground scuffle. He has a point, unfortunately.

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** As of ''ComicBook/SecretEmpire'', Hank [[spoiler: after having merged with Ultron]], finally snaps and calls out the then 'Captain HYDRA' Steve and the AI version of Tony Stark for all the stuff that they've pulled which, especially in Tony's case (Steve was morally flipped against his will), makes the incident with Janet, awful as it was, look like a playground scuffle. He has a point, unfortunately.
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*** In addition to her progressively skimpier outfits sexuality in general began to consume her character more and more as time went on, initially having SingleTargetSexuality for The Joker, then developing a close friendship with Poison Ivy with some subtle LesYay, then she began to have mild mostly one sided FoeYay with Batman until finally to coincide with her {{Stripperiffic}} appearance she became a bisexual nyphomaiac who's almost incapable of talking about anything other than sex.
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** In the last few years, [[ComicBook/{{Batgirl}} Cassandra Cain]] went from an outsider with an AmbiguousDisorder and a good deal of emotional issues. to a childish girl who's lonely and sad all of the time.


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* ComicBook/AmandaWaller was introduced as a tough, no-nonsense woman whose standoffish demeanor hid a lot of trauma and guilt. While she did morally dubious things, she was also willing to put her career on the line for the Suicide Squad and defy the U.S. government when they went against her moral compass. These days she's depicted as a sociopath with a WeHaveReserves mentality toward the Squad and a MyCountryRightOrWrong attitude.
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