Follow TV Tropes

Following

History Film / VictorVictoria

Go To

OR

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Omit reference to Alex Karras being gay in real life (he wasn't)


* BruiserWithASoftCenter: Squash. As he explains it, if you didn't want to be gay bashed, you made yourself into a tough guy. (His actor, Alex Karras, was a RealLife example.)

to:

* BruiserWithASoftCenter: Squash. As he explains it, if you didn't want to be gay bashed, you made yourself into a tough guy. (His actor, Alex Karras, was a RealLife example.)
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Added example(s)

Added DiffLines:

* MilhollandRelationshipMoment: King gives in to his feelings and kisses "Victor", not caring if he is a man. A guilty "Victor"/Victoria reveals she is not a man and King nonchalantly says he still doesn't care about gender.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Added example(s)

Added DiffLines:

* TheRevealPromptsRomance: King tells "Victor" that he doesn't care if he is a man and kisses him. A guilt-ridden Victoria reveals to King that she isn't actually biologically male. King grabs ahold of Victoria, tells her he still doesn't care about gender and they kiss again, kick-starting their relationship.

Added: 311

Changed: 308

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* {{Gayngst}}: King suffers this when he discovers his crush "Victor"/Victoria is a professional gay male drag queen. And again, when he begins a secret relationship with "Victor", as King knows all too well they cannot be intimate in public for homosexuality was in a sin. Because he was a gangster and it was 1930s Paris.

to:

* {{Gayngst}}: {{Gayngst}}:
**
King suffers this when he discovers his crush "Victor"/Victoria is a professional gay male drag queen. And again, when he begins a secret relationship with "Victor", as King knows all too well they cannot be intimate in public for homosexuality was in a sin. Because he was a gangster and it was 1930s Paris.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Added example(s)

Added DiffLines:

* CongestionSpeak: Victoria's voice is gruff and lower due to a head cold when she retaliates against Toddy's ex lover Richard.


Added DiffLines:

* FieryRedhead: The gangster King falls for the fire-y redhead "Victor"/Victoria.

Added: 87

Changed: 36

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* LastHetRomance: For Toddy, somebody named Nana Lanu.

to:

* LastHetRomance: LastHetRomance:
**
For Toddy, somebody named Nana Lanu.


Added DiffLines:

** King dates Norma but leaves her for "Victor".
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Added example(s)

Added DiffLines:

* WomanScorned: Norma is not pleased to say the least when King dumps her so that he could pursue "Victor" and she plans to get revenge at them both.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Added example(s)

Added DiffLines:

* OldPeopleAreNonsexual: Wonderfully averted. Both Toddy and [[spoiler: Squash]] are middle-aged but they develop a passionate relationship nonetheless.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Trope was cut/disambiguated due to cleanup


* HeroesWantRedheads: The gangster King falls for the fire-y redhead "Victor"/Victoria.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
The french word for "fool" is "le fou"; "le clou" means "the nail".


* MeaningfulName: [[BilingualBonus "Leclou" is French for "the fool".]] (Of course, the character he's an {{Expy}} of, Clouseau, came from the same French pun.)
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* BattleThemeMusic: The band in Chez Lui starts belting out "Le Marseilles" when the fight breaks out.

to:

* BattleThemeMusic: The band in Chez Lui starts belting out "Le Marseilles" "La Marseillaise" when the fight breaks out.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* {{Fanservice}}: A few brief glimpses of Victoria undressing for a bath in the hotel.


Added DiffLines:

* KarmaHoudini: Norma suffers no repercussions for her actions after lying to the Mafia about her ex King supposedly being in a homosexual relationship with the polish male drag queen "Victor".
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* AllWomenAreLustful: Norma, who whines about wanting to make love with King when they were together, and when she mistakenly believes that "Victor" is about to sexually harass her (in reality, it was Victoria undressing to show her true gender), her first thought is to have "him" lock the door.


Added DiffLines:

* DisproportionateRetribution: Norma attempts to kill King and even the bodyguard Squash for intervening just because King shoved a bar of soap into her mouth for insulting him.


Added DiffLines:

* HenPeckedHusband. Henpecked boyfriend in this case. When King is dating Norma, she verbally abuses him, insults him, makes fun of him for having a crush on "Victor" and not being able to get sexually aroused for her and threatens to harm him physically by throwing random objects at him and then try to kill him with a spear prop for simply putting soap in her mouth.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Contralto Of Danger has been disambiguated


* ContraltoOfDanger: Victoria's voice is gruff and lower due to a head cold when she retaliates against Toddy's ex lover Richard.

Changed: 228

Removed: 222

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Norma's seen cheering Teddy during the end credits


* IncompatibleOrientation: Norma Cassidy quickly develops an attraction to Toddy, who is gay.

to:

* IncompatibleOrientation: Norma Cassidy quickly develops an attraction to flirts with the gay Toddy, who is gay.with shades of FagHag - She's ''delighted'' by Toddy and "Victor"'s sexuality as long as it's not a threat to her relationship (She's even seen cheering Toddy at the finale).



* LousyLoversAreLosers: Norma mocks King for being unable to perform in bed with her and this is embarrassing for King, as he is unable to prove his manhood (due to having thoughts of "Victor"). Norma's suggestion that they could "fake it" and her running her mouth and calling him "impudent" does very little to help.

to:

* LousyLoversAreLosers: Norma mocks King for being unable to perform in bed with her and this is embarrassing for King, as he is unable to prove his manhood (due to having thoughts of "Victor"). Norma's suggestion that they could "fake it" and her running her mouth and calling him "impudent" does very little to help.



* LoveableSexManiac: "Loveable" is debateable, but Norma's reaction to "Victor" stripping for her (to prove she's a woman, when Norma still thinks she's a man) is "'''WAIT!!!''' ({{Beat}}) Lock the door!"

to:

* LoveableSexManiac: "Loveable" is debateable, debatable, but Norma's reaction to "Victor" stripping for her (to prove she's a woman, when Norma still thinks she's a man) is "'''WAIT!!!''' ({{Beat}}) Lock the door!"



* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: Norma isn't seen again after her humiliating discovery that "Victor" is actually a woman. Though it's safe to assume she got punished for lying to the mafia about "Victor" supposedly being female.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* FakeOrgasm: After King fails to perform in bed with Norma due to him thinking about "Victor", Norma suggests they can "fake it" if they have too. King is not amused.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* ManlyGay: King's bodyguard Squash is a big, strong guy who was an All-American football player (he's played by former Detroit Lions defensive tackle Creator/AlexKarras). He's ClosetGay and comes out to King midway through the film.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* ClosetGay: Shortly after King and Victoria sleep together for the first time, Squash catches them ''in flagrante delicto'', still thinking Victoria is Victor. Before King can fully explain the confusion to him, Squash gives him a bear hug and comes out to him as gay. A couple scenes later, they're working out in the gym and King asks him about it.
-->'''Squash:''' When did I know I was gay? God, I can't remember when I wasn't.\\
'''King:''' I've known you for years!\\
'''Squash:''' Well, you know a lot of guys, boss. You'd be surprised.\\
'''King:''' You were an All-American! I never saw a meaner, rougher, tougher, son-of-a-bitch football player in all my life.\\
'''Squash:''' Listen, if you didn't want the guys to call you "queer", [[ManlyGay you became a rough, tough, son-of-a-bitching football player]].

Added: 110

Removed: 116

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Misuse of Armored Closet Gay. Richard isn't publicly anti-LGBT, he's just an ass.


* ArmouredClosetGay: The bisexual Richard robs Toddy and acts hostile towards him after spending the night with him.


Added DiffLines:

* {{Jerkass}}: The bisexual Richard robs Toddy and acts hostile towards him after spending the night with him.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* CigaretteOfAnxiety: King lights up a cigar after learning his crush Victoria is a gay male drag queen. Much to his confliction.


Added DiffLines:

* INeedAFreakingDrink: King prefers to spends the remainder of the night smoking a cigar and drinking scotch/rum instead of sleeping with Norma, in order to deal with his conflicting thoughts over his crush on "Victor".
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Slapstick Knows No Gender is no longer a trope.


* SlapstickKnowsNoGender: Both men and women suffer some sort of physical abuse during this musical, with hilarity to boot.

to:

* SlapstickKnowsNoGender: {{Slapstick}}: Both men and women suffer some sort of physical abuse during this musical, with hilarity to boot.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* SweetTooth: Norma loves stuffing her face with chocolates before King stuffs her with a bar of soap.

to:

* SweetTooth: Norma loves stuffing her face with chocolates before King stuffs her with a bar of soap.chocolates.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* GenderConcealingVoice: Victoria has to speak and sing in a lower register while in disguise as "Victor".
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* FakedFoodContaminant: DoubleSubverted. Victoria, who hasn't gotten a decent meal in a week, attempts this out of desperation after finding an ''enormous'' cockroach in her flophouse room. The waiter is wise to the con and starts implying that he's going to have her arrested unless she fesses up... until the cockroach turns up at another table nearby, inadvertently setting off a BarBrawl and letting her and Toddy abscond with full stomachs amid the confusion.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* SexGod: When King makes love with Norma, it is unsatisfying and unpleasant. When King and "Victor"/Victoria make love, it is romantic and satisfactory.

to:

* SexGod: SexualKarma: When King attempts to makes love with Norma, it is unsatisfying and unpleasant. unpleasant [[LousyLoversAreLosers which she then proceeds to mock him for it]]. When King and "Victor"/Victoria make love, [[SexGod it is romantic and satisfactory.satisfactory]].



* SinisterSweetTooth: Norma is usually enjoying chocolate and other sweets whenever she's not bossing her lover King around or being jealous and homophobic around "Victor" and Toddy.

to:

* SinisterSweetTooth: Norma is usually enjoying snacking on chocolate and other sweets whenever she's not bossing verbally abusing her lover King around King, or being jealous and homophobic around towards "Victor" and Toddy.

Added: 685

Changed: 313

Removed: 131

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* BrickJoke: During King' first night at the hotel Norma states she's worried that Squash, the bodyguard, will break in while they're making love. "Oh he'd only do that if he heard something unusual; like if I got excited!". Squash does just that when an orgasmic moan escapes from King's room as he's making love to Victoria.

to:

* BrickJoke: BrickJoke:
**
During King' first night at the hotel Norma states she's worried that Squash, the bodyguard, will break in while they're making love. "Oh he'd only do that if he heard something unusual; like if I got excited!". Squash does just that when an orgasmic moan escapes from King's room as he's making love to Victoria.Victoria.
** Toddy's love for theatre and crossdressing. It helps save Victoria and King from the mafia and authorities at the end when they arrive looking for "Victor" suspecting "him" of fraud and Toddy fills in for the role of "Victor".



* EverybodyLaughsEnding: Everything is resolved with Toddy taking over the role of "Victoria" and everyone is seen laughing, happy together.



* GainaxEnding: Everything is resolved with Toddy taking over the role of "Victoria" and everyone is seen laughing, happy together.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* BigYes: Norma, who has been stewing over King's obvious infatuation with "Victoria," screams "yes!" when Victoria takes off the wig. [[FunnyBackgroundEvent And keeps screaming "Yay!" over and over]] while the camera focuses on King's utter dismay.

to:

* BigYes: Norma, who has been stewing over King's obvious infatuation with "Victoria," with "Victor"/Victoria, screams "yes!" when Victoria takes off the wig. [[FunnyBackgroundEvent And keeps screaming "Yay!" over and over]] while the camera focuses on King's utter dismay.



* CloseUpOnHead: When Victoria and King are dancing, the shot is close up on their faces. As the shot pans out, it's shown that the couple are dancing together in a gay bar surrounded by other various male couples. Much to King's discomfort.

to:

* CloseUpOnHead: When Victoria When "Victor"/Victoria and King are dancing, the shot is close up on their faces. As the shot pans out, it's shown that the couple are dancing together in a gay bar surrounded by other various male couples. Much to King's discomfort.



** When Victoria/"Victor" performs "Le Jazz Hot", King is smitten. Much to Norma's chagrin.

to:

** When Victoria/"Victor" When "Victor"/Victoria performs "Le Jazz Hot", King is smitten. Much to Norma's chagrin.



* {{Gayngst}}: King suffers this when he discovers his crush Victoria is a professional drag queen named "Victor". And again, when he begins a secret relationship with "Victor", as King knows all too well they cannot be intimate in public for homosexuality was in a sin. Because he was a gangster and it was 1930s Paris.

to:

* {{Gayngst}}: King suffers this when he discovers his crush Victoria crush "Victor"/Victoria is a professional gay male drag queen named "Victor".queen. And again, when he begins a secret relationship with "Victor", as King knows all too well they cannot be intimate in public for homosexuality was in a sin. Because he was a gangster and it was 1930s Paris.



* GreenEyedMonster: Norma grows quite jealous when she sees King become infatuated with Victoria. Until Victoria removes her wig at the end of her performance, then she cheers.

to:

* GreenEyedMonster: Norma grows quite jealous when she sees King become infatuated with Victoria.with "Victor"/Victoria. Until Victoria removes her wig at the end of her performance, then she cheers.



* HeroesWantRedheads: The gangster King falls for the fire-y redhead Victoria / "Victor".

to:

* HeroesWantRedheads: The gangster King falls for the fire-y redhead Victoria / "Victor"."Victor"/Victoria.



* IRejectYourReality: King insists that "Victor" is a woman even after seeing "him" take his wig off. This is because he's conflicted over his feelings for "him".

to:

* IRejectYourReality: King insists that "Victor" that "Victor"/Victoria is a woman even after seeing "him" take his wig off. This is because he's conflicted over his feelings for "him".



* LovesMyAlterEgo: King is attracted to Victor's female persona "Victoria" while he is dismayed that "Victoria" is actually a gay drag queen.

to:

* LovesMyAlterEgo: King is attracted to Victor's female persona "Victoria" Victoria while he is dismayed that "Victoria" Victoria is actually a gay drag queen.



* NoBisexuals: When King becomes attracted to and conflicted over Victor/"Victoria", Norma thinks that it means he is gay now despite King's attempt to sleep with her. With no mention of the B word.

to:

* NoBisexuals: When King becomes attracted to and conflicted over Victor/"Victoria", over "Victor"/Victoria, Norma thinks that it means he is gay now despite King's attempt to sleep with her. With no mention of the B word.



** King's reaction when he sees "Victor" take his wig off, revealing "he" is a drag queen.
** King, when he looks from his hotel window and sees that "Victor" and Toddy are his apartment next door neighbors.

to:

** King's reaction when he sees "Victor" sees "Victor"/Victoria take his wig off, revealing "he" is a drag queen.
** King, when he looks from his hotel window and sees that "Victor" that "Victor"/Victoria and Toddy are his apartment next door neighbors.



* RescueRomance: King and "Victor"'s romance takes off after escaping from a bar fight.

to:

* RescueRomance: King and "Victor"'s and "Victor"/Victoria's romance takes off after escaping from a bar fight.



* ScrewThisImOuttaHere: King leaves after seeing "Victor" once again take his wig off after the performance of "The Shady Dame From Seville". As King has become infatuated with Victoria but is uncomfortable with the fact that she's actually a gay male drag queen.

to:

* ScrewThisImOuttaHere: King leaves after seeing "Victor" once again take his wig off after the performance of "The Shady Dame From Seville". As King has become is infatuated with his persona Victoria but is uncomfortable with the fact reality that she's he's actually a gay male drag queen.



* WhenSheSmiles: King Marchand notices how "Victor"/Victoria lights up when she smiles. The latter says it's an odd thing for a man to say to another man. ([[spoiler: At this point, King's seen visual proof Victoria is female.]])

to:

* WhenSheSmiles: King Marchand notices how "Victor"/Victoria lights up when she smiles. The latter says it's an odd thing for a man to say to another man. ([[spoiler: At this point, point in the film, King's seen visual proof Victoria is female.]])

Top