History Film / RyanVsDorkman

A couple years later came the rematch: ''Ryan vs Dorkman 2.'' The sequel is, in practically every way, [[SequelEscalation bigger and arguably better]] than the original -- it's longer, DarkerAndEdgier, with better effects work and tighter choreography; it has a full crew, using professional grade UsefulNotes/HighDefinition equipment; it even has an entirely original score. The films' special effects (put together by Wieber and Scott themselves, along with the film editing and fight choreography) were highly praised, even leading into a successful (and award winning) FX career for Wieber.

The pair have expressed interest in continuing the series, but [[DevelopmentHell are holding off]] until they can think of new and creative ways to continue the SequelEscalation. In the meantime, these films are free to watch / download from [[http://www.ryanvsdorkman.com/ the official RvD website.]] Ryan Wieber has also gone on to work with Brandon Flyte, another lightsaber enthusiast, in the similarly named and similarly styled [[http://youtu.be/kq4Ej9KpQhg Ryan]] vs. [[http://youtu.be/pfa-Pa5IQLg Brandon]] shorts. All four were submitted to various Lightsaber Choreo Competitions (they ran #12 in 2014 and another one in 2016) and won their years.

** In [=RvB2=], after Brandon kills Ryan, he reclaims his lightsaber and leaves the premises. Three other Ryan are seen observing Brandon leave. As they start walking towards the door he went through, the Ryan in the middle calls it off and they all leave some other way.

** Ryan at least has the excuse of having clones. (He's actually lost ''every'' duel he's ever been in, except for his out-of-nowhere cameo in [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiAkul_fGW0 Alex vs. Nate 2.]])

The pair have expressed interest in continuing the series, but [[DevelopmentHell are holding off]] until they can think of new and creative ways to continue the SequelEscalation. In the meantime, these films are free to watch / download from [[http://www.ryanvsdorkman.com/ the official RvD website.]] Ryan Wieber has also gone on to work with Brandon Flyte, another lightsaber enthusiast, in the similarly named and similarly styled [[http://youtu.be/kq4Ej9KpQhg Ryan]] vs. [[http://youtu.be/pfa-Pa5IQLg Brandon]] shorts. All four were submitted to various Lightsaber Choreo Competitions (they're running #11 right now) and won their years.

* TheOner: both fights begin with a single shot of at least 20 seconds. The second adds an OrbitalShot to the mix.

'''''Ryan vs Dorkman''''' is a 2003 ''Star Wars'' FanFilm which depicts a [[SwordFight lightsaber duel]] [[DuelToTheDeath to the death]] between the titular rivals. [=RvD=] (as it is colloquially known) stands apart from other ''Star Wars'' fan films in that [[ExcusePlot there is not even the slightest pretense of a story or plot;]] it is the standard fan film lightsaber duel, [[JustHereForGodzilla distilled down to its very essence and made into its own raison d'etre.]] As such, there are no ''Star Wars'' locations or characters or even costumes; Ryan and Dorkman wear normal real world clothing and battle in real world locations, with [[LikeRealityUnlessOtherwiseNoted the only nod]] to ''Star Wars'' being that they use [[LaserBlade lightsabers]] (and a little bit of TheForce).

Ryan Wieber and Michael "Dorkman" Scott, both considering a submission to the very first Lightsaber Choreography Competition at the forums of [[http://www.theforce.net TheForce.net]], a ''Franchise/StarWars'' FanSite, developed a rivalry over which of them was the better lightsaber artist. The two met in the real world to hash out said rivalry. [[http://www.ryanvsdorkman.com/ "Ryan vs. Dorkman"]] was the result.

'''''Ryan vs Dorkman''''' is a 2003 ''Star Wars'' FanFilm which depicts a [[SwordFight lightsaber duel]] [[DuelToTheDeath to the death]] between the titular rivals. [=RvD=] (as it is colloquially known) stands apart from other ''Star Wars'' fan films in that [[ExcusePlot there is not even the slightest pretense of a story or plot]]; it is the standard fan-film lightsaber duel, [[JustHereForGodzilla distilled down to its very essence and made into its own raison d'être]]. As such, there are no ''Star Wars'' locations or characters or even costumes; Ryan and Dorkman wear normal real-world clothing and battle in real-world locations, with [[LikeRealityUnlessOtherwiseNoted the only nod]] to ''Star Wars'' being that they use [[LaserBlade lightsabers]] (and a little bit of TheForce).

A couple years later came the rematch: ''Ryan vs Dorkman 2''. The sequel is, in practically every way, [[SequelEscalation bigger and arguably better]] than the original -- it's longer, DarkerAndEdgier, with better effects work and tighter choreography; it has a full crew, using professional-grade UsefulNotes/HighDefinition equipment; it even has an entirely original score. The films' special effects (put together by Wieber and Scott themselves, along with the film editing and fight choreography) were highly praised, even leading into a successful (and award-winning) FX career for Wieber.

The pair have expressed interest in continuing the series, but [[DevelopmentHell are holding off]] until they can think of new and creative ways to continue the SequelEscalation. In the meantime, these films are free to watch/download from [[http://www.ryanvsdorkman.com/ the official RvD website]]. Ryan Wieber has also gone on to work with Brandon Flyte, another lightsaber enthusiast, in the similarly-named and similarly-styled [[http://youtu.be/kq4Ej9KpQhg Ryan]] vs. [[http://youtu.be/pfa-Pa5IQLg Brandon]] shorts. All four were submitted to various Lightsaber Choreo Competitions (they're running #11 right now) and won their years.

In true StarWars fashion, the original [=RvD=] was {{remaster}}ed by Wieber himself. The effects were updated and uploaded on a higher quality video transfer, as the original was heavily compressed for internet distribution. Wieber also gives a rundown of the changes on the website.

!!This Fan Film series provides examples of:

* CombatPragmatist: Typically played straight, but spoofed on one occasion: after [[spoiler:they both drop their sabers, they square off for a fistfight]], but then [[spoiler:just turn around and Force-grab their sabers]]. The reason for this is [[spoiler:they didn't have time to choreograph a fistfight]], so they added this moment as a gag.

** Ryan at least has the excuse of having clones. (He's actually lost ''every'' duel he's ever been in, except for his out-of-nowhere cameo in [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiAkul_fGW0 Alex vs Nate 2]].)

** Also a meta-example of an escalation over the ''source material'': [=RvD2=] contains a number of ideas which the fight choreographers for ''RevengeOfTheSith'' had, but weren't able to implement or had been [[ExecutiveMeddling rejected]].

* TookALevelInBadass: While he was certainly no slouch in the first film, Ryan in [=RvD2=] appears much more confident and in control. Must be [[BeardOfEvil the goatee]].

* {{Flynning}}
** Although it should be noted that it's tightly choreographed enough that the two fighters actually look like they are trying to hit each other.

** That Flynning isn't good sword technique is demonstrated at the end of [=RVD2=]: with no need to block a strike aimed solely at his lightsaber, Ryan merely dodges it and gets in a free hit.

A couple years later came the rematch: ''Ryan vs Dorkman 2''. The sequel is, in practically every way, [[SequelEscalation bigger and arguably better]] than the original -- it's longer, DarkerAndEdgier, with better effects work and tighter choreography; it has a full crew, using professional-grade HighDefinition equipment; it even has an entirely original score. The films' special effects (put together by Wieber and Scott themselves, along with the film editing and fight choreography) were highly praised, even leading into a successful (and award-winning) FX career for Wieber.

* LikeRealityUnlessOtherwiseNoted: Other than lightsabers and Force powers, these films take place in the real world.

** Also a meta-example of an escalation over the ''source material'': [=RvD2=] contains a number of ideas which the fight choreographers for ''RevengeOfTheSith'' had, but weren't not able to implement or had [[ExecutiveMeddling rejected]].

* {{Flynning}}: Although it should be noted that it's tightly choreographed enough that the two fighters actually look like they are trying to hit each other.

* {{Flynning}}

Ryan Wieber and Michael "Dorkman" Scott, both considering a submission to the very first Lightsaber Choreography Competition at the forums of [[http://www.theforce.net TheForce.net]], a ''Franchise/StarWars'' FanSite, developed a rivalry over which of them was the better lightsaber artist. The two met in the real world to hash out said rivalry. This was the result.

* AnArmAndALeg

* DuelToTheDeath

* FamilyUnfriendlyDeath

* CombatPragmatist: Typically played straight, but spoofed on one occasion: after [[spoiler:they both drop their sabers, they square off for a fistfight]], but then [[spoiler:just turn around and Force-grab their swords]]. The reason for this is [[spoiler:they didn't have time to choreograph a fistfight]], so they added this moment as a gag.

* ExcusePlot: It's just a couple guys swinging swords at each other.

* {{Flynning}}: No kidding. Compares favorably with what's in the actual ''Star Wars'' films.

* NoDialogueEpisode: But, really, [[JustHereForGodzilla what more needs to be said?]]

** Also a meta-example of an escalation over the ''source material'': [=RvD2=] contains a number of ideas which the fight choreographers for ''RevengeOfTheSith'' had but was not able to implement or had [[ExecutiveMeddling rejected]].
* SwordDrag: Ryan drags his saber menacingly through a water puddle.
* TooDumbToLive: While Ryan seemed to be tougher and stronger, and managed to cut off Dorkman's right arm and destroy his lightsaber, instead of killing him, he just takes his saber and stabs him through his left shoulder, likely [[ForTheEvulz just to torture him]]. Dorkman was eventually able to reach for Ryan's saber (who was basically shoving the whole lightsaber through his shoulder and the concrete floor), turns it off, then back on, and [[ThrowingYourSwordAlwaysWorks throws]] it right at Ryan, cutting him vertically in half and killing him.

* TooDumbToLive: While Ryan seemed to be tougher and stronger, and managed to cut off Dorkman's right arm and destroy his lightsaber, instead of killing him, he just takes his saber and stabs him through his left shoulder, likely to [[ForTheEvulz just to torture him]]. Dorkman was eventually able to reach for Ryan's saber (who was basically shoving the whole lightsaber through his should and the concrete floor), turns it off, then back on, and throws it right at Ryan, cutting him vertically in half and killing him.

Ryan Wieber and Michael "Dorkman" Scott, both considering a submission to the very first Lightsaber Choreography Competition at the forums of [[www.theforce.net TheForce.net]], a ''Franchise/StarWars'' FanSite, developed a rivalry over which of them was the better lightsaber artist. The two met in the real world to hash out said rivalry. This was the result.

Ryan Wieber and Michael "Dorkman" Scott developed a rivalry on a ''Franchise/StarWars'' fan site, arguing over which of them was the better lightsaber artist. The two met in the real world to hash out said rivalry; ''[=RvD=]'' was the result.

The pair have expressed interest in continuing the series, but [[DevelopmentHell are holding off]] until they can think of new and creative ways to continue the SequelEscalation. In the meantime, these films are free to watch/download from [[http://www.ryanvsdorkman.com/ the official RvD website]].

* PostModernism: The idea for these films was germinated when a couple of dudes met on a Star Wars internet forum and began a rivalry over who was the better swordsman. The underarching plot of the films? [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment A couple of dudes met on a Star Wars internet forum and began a rivalry over who was the better swordsman.]]

'''''Ryan vs Dorkman''''' is a 2003 ''Star Wars'' FanFilm which depicts a [[SwordFight lightsaber duel]] [[DuelToTheDeath to the death]] between the titular rivals. [=RvD=] (as it is colloqually known) stands apart from other ''Star Wars'' fan films in that [[ExcusePlot there is not even the slightest pretense of a story or plot]]; it is the standard fan-film lightsaber duel, [[JustHereForGodzilla distilled down to its very essence and made into its own raison d'être]]. As such, there are no ''Star Wars'' locations or characters or even costumes; Ryan and Dorkman wear normal real-world clothing and battle in real-world locations, with [[LikeRealityUnlessOtherwiseNoted the only nod]] to ''Star Wars'' being that they use [[LaserBlade lightsabers]] (and a little bit of TheForce).

* Flynning: No kidding. Compares favorably with what's in the actual ''Star Wars'' films.

* CombatPragmatist: Typically played straight, but spoofed on one occassion: after [[spoiler:they both drop their sabers, they square off for a fistfight]], but then [[spoiler:just turn around and Force-grab their swords]]. The reason for this is [[spoiler:they didn't have time to choreograph a fistfight]], so they added this moment as a gag.

Ryan Wieber and Michael "Dorkman" Scott developed a rivalry on a ''Franchise/StarWars'' fan sight, arguing over which of them was the better lightsaber artist. The two met in the real world to hash out said rivalry; ''[=RvD=]'' was the result.