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* AmbiguousDisorder: Chuy is almost certainly autistic with odd habits, attention to very specific details, avoidance of eye contact, and little to no fear or emotional response to what should be very scary or shocking situations.

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* AmbiguousDisorder: Chuy is almost certainly autistic with odd habits, attention to very specific details, avoidance of eye contact, and little to no fear or emotional response to what should be very scary or shocking situations.
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''Mimic'' (1997) is an American SciFiHorror film by Creator/GuillermoDelToro and starring Creator/MiraSorvino, Jeremy Northam, Creator/JoshBrolin, Creator/GiancarloGiannini, Creator/CharlesSDutton, and Creator/FMurrayAbraham in a minor role, inspired by a short story of the same name by Donald A. Wollheim.

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''Mimic'' (1997) is an American SciFiHorror film by Creator/GuillermoDelToro and starring Creator/MiraSorvino, Jeremy Northam, Creator/JeremyNortham, Creator/JoshBrolin, Creator/GiancarloGiannini, Creator/CharlesSDutton, and Creator/FMurrayAbraham in a minor role, inspired by a short story of the same name by Donald A. Wollheim.
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** Dr. Susan states that if they kill the Judas Breed king, the whole species will die out because the single fertile male will be gone. However, this completely ignores population dynamics, operating on the baseless assumption there's only one colony of Judas Breed in the whole city when there should've been many colonies already (which ''could'' explain how there are sequels).

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** Dr. Susan Tyler states that if they kill the Judas Breed king, the whole species will die out because the single fertile male will be gone. However, this completely ignores population dynamics, operating on the baseless assumption there's only one colony of Judas Breed in the whole city when there should've been many colonies already (which ''could'' explain how there are sequels).
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* MsFanservice: Dr. Tyler is a hot blond and boy does the film show it, especially the bath tub scene.

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* MsFanservice: Dr. Susan Tyler is a hot blond and boy blonde and, boy, does the film show it, especially the bath tub scene.

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-->'''Susan:'' That's not an answer, Walter.\\

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-->'''Susan:'' -->'''Susan:''' That's not an answer, Walter.\\



* RecycledInSpace: ''Mimic 3'' is ''Film/RearWindow'' [-WITH GIANT GENETICALLY ENGINEERED HUMAN-MIMICKING BUGS!-]
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* RecycledInSpace: RearWindowHomage: ''Mimic 3'' is ''Film/RearWindow'' [-WITH [-[[JustForFun/RecycledInSpace WITH GIANT GENETICALLY ENGINEERED HUMAN-MIMICKING BUGS!-]
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BUGS!]]-]



** In the story, it's implied that the Man In the Black Coat is part of a species of insect that has naturally evolved a type of mimicry to be able to live in plain sight among humans.

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** In the story, it's implied that the Man In in the Black Coat is part of a species of insect that has naturally evolved a type of mimicry to be able to live in plain sight among humans.
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* WritersCannotDoMath: Apparently the Judas Breed evolved into gigantic man-eaters that can impersonate human beings from fairly normal looking (if genetically engineered) insects within ''three years'' [[{{Handwave}} because they had an accelerated breeding cycle]], said to maybe add up to "tens of hundreds of thousands of generations" within this timespan. Even if this is the lowest-ball two-hundred thousand generations, that would mean they grew and reproduced at an average rate of nearly ''two-hundred generations'' '''''per day''''', meaning that each generation had to go from egg to nymph to reproductive adult in less than ''ten minutes''.

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* WritersCannotDoMath: Apparently the Judas Breed evolved into gigantic man-eaters that can impersonate human beings from fairly normal looking (if genetically engineered) insects within ''three years'' three years [[{{Handwave}} because they had an accelerated breeding cycle]], said to maybe add up to "tens of hundreds of thousands of generations" within this timespan. Even if this is the lowest-ball two-hundred thousand generations, that would mean they grew and reproduced at an average rate of nearly ''two-hundred generations'' '''''per day''''', two-hundred generations per day, meaning that each generation had to go from egg to nymph to reproductive adult in less than ''ten minutes''.ten minutes.

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Although del Toro was unhappy with the film as released, it includes several examples of his most characteristic hallmarks. "I have a sort of a fetish for insects, clockwork, monsters, dark places, and unborn things," said del Toro, and this is evident in Mimic, where at times all are combined in long, brooding shots of dark, cluttered, muddy chaotic spaces. According to Alfonso Cuaron, del Toro's friend and colleague, "with Guillermo the shots are almost mathematical; everything is planned." That feature is evident too in Mimic, in the photography, most notably in the brooding shots described above and especially in the set design.



** Insects cannot grow as large as humans, their body structure just doesn't work at that size. Though they apparently [[HandWave evolved lungs]], it doesn't get around the molting problems or lack of an efficient vascular system in a bug that size.

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** Insects cannot grow as large as humans, their humans Their body structure just doesn't work at that size. Though they apparently [[HandWave evolved lungs]], it doesn't get around the molting problems or lack of an efficient vascular system in a bug that size.



%%* TheCanKickedHim: The first death occurs on the toilet.

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%%* * TheCanKickedHim: The first death occurs on the toilet.
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* BlackGuyDiesFirst:

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* BlackGuyDiesFirst:BlackDudeDiesFirst:



* RecycledINSPACE: ''Mimic 3'' is ''Film/RearWindow'' [-WITH GIANT GENETICALLY ENGINEERED HUMAN-MIMICKING BUGS!-]

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* RecycledINSPACE: RecycledInSpace: ''Mimic 3'' is ''Film/RearWindow'' [-WITH GIANT GENETICALLY ENGINEERED HUMAN-MIMICKING BUGS!-]
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* NoisyNature: The Judas Breed constantly make chittering, hissing, chirping noises wherever they go, even though real insects are virtually silence (with the exception of those like grasshoppers or cicadas that make noise to attract mates). The clicking sounds used by the Judas are even an important plot point, because Chuy is able to communicate with them by imitating their sounds by clacking spoons together.

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* NoisyNature: The Judas Breed constantly make chittering, hissing, chirping noises wherever they go, even though real insects are virtually silence silent (with the exception of those like grasshoppers or cicadas that make noise to attract mates). The clicking sounds used by the Judas are even an important plot point, because Chuy is able to communicate with them by imitating their sounds by clacking spoons together.
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* BackingIntoDanger: One of the RedShirts has this reaction upon seeing a cache of giant mutant bug eggs under New York City. He backs right into a giant mutant bug.



* WalkingBackwards:
** One of the RedShirts has this reaction upon seeing a cache of giant mutant bug eggs under New York City. He backs right into a giant mutant bug.
** Because they look more like people when seen from behind, the bugs themselves sometimes invoke this trope to get closer to their victims.

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just because the bug wants to mate with a human doesn't mean it could. animals are attracted to or mate with other incompatible species all the time; the movie never implies the bug mating with a human would ever be successful


%%** And of course the whole concept of Mimic 2 is completely absurd. Insects and mammals have completely different chromosome and reproductive methods. The Judas Breed resembling humans wouldn't change that.

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%%** And of course ** Dr. Susan states that if they kill the whole concept of Mimic 2 is completely absurd. Insects and mammals have completely different chromosome and reproductive methods. The Judas Breed resembling humans wouldn't change that.king, the whole species will die out because the single fertile male will be gone. However, this completely ignores population dynamics, operating on the baseless assumption there's only one colony of Judas Breed in the whole city when there should've been many colonies already (which ''could'' explain how there are sequels).



* ArtisticLicensePhysics: Insects evolving into the size of human beings is one thing, but also being able to ''fly'' while carrying a person is even more questionable. In general, the film assumes that all the attributes of a normal insect, such as their speed, durability, and strength, would scale perfectly to human-scale, completely ignoring SquareCubeLaw.



* TheCanKickedHim: The first death occurs on the toilet.

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* %%* TheCanKickedHim: The first death occurs on the toilet.toilet.
* CellPhonesAreUseless: Peter tries to call Susan when he's in the subway to let her know her pregnancy test was actually positive



** n the first movie, a bug takes [[MoreDakka a full magazine from a pistol]] ''after'' being '''[[WhoNeedsTheirWholeBody sliced in half by a sliding door]]''' and '''''still''''' manages to scurry out of sight after maiming the shooter.

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** n In the first movie, a bug takes [[MoreDakka a full magazine from a pistol]] ''after'' being '''[[WhoNeedsTheirWholeBody sliced in half by a sliding door]]''' and '''''still''''' manages to scurry out of sight after maiming the shooter.



* DressingAsTheEnemy: Peter and Manny are able to walk in plain sight of the bugs by smearing themselves with the fluid from the pheromone sacs of a dead bug, disguising their scent as one of their own. The effect wears off very quickly though.



* GeneticEngineeringIsTheNewNuke: The Judas Breed were created by genetically splicing termite and mantis DNA to create a bioweapon that would wipe out disease-carrying roaches after attempts to find a vaccine for the illness proved fruitless and conventional chemical deterrents were useless against something as hardy as a cockroach. Of course, nobody predicted that they'd evolve into giant human-mimicking predators with the potential to supplant mankind as the dominant species on Earth.



* ItsQuietTooQuiet: While underground, Leonard notes how unusual it is that they haven't seen any "track bunnies" (read: rats) around. The audience can obviously surmise that they've either all been eaten or packed their bags and fled after the Judas Breed arrived.



* LawOfInverseFertility: Susan and Peter want kids but she's been failing to get pregnant and it puts a bit of a strain on their marriage despite Peter's continued encouragement.

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* LawOfInverseFertility: Susan and Peter want kids but she's been failing to get pregnant and it puts a bit of a strain on their marriage despite Peter's continued encouragement. Subverted when it turns out Susan misread the pregnancy test.
* LetsSplitUpGang: Peter and Leonard end up falling into part of the old New York armoury and make Josh go back for help through the subways alone. Predictably, Josh ends up blundering into the Judas Breed's nest and is butchered.



* MonsterDelay: The film keeps the Judas Breed shrouded in shadow until the hour mark, and even after that, it continues not showing them clearly because the rest of the story takes place underground.



* SwarmOfRats: Averted in the first movie. Leonard notes he and Peter are far enough below ground that they should be seeing lots of rats, but he doesn't see a single one and finds that curious. The audience, of course, can guess the rats either got eaten by the giant bugs or fled.

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* SwarmOfRats: Averted in SuperToughness: The Judas Breed has all the first movie. Leonard notes he durability of a cockroach, taking two full clips of pistol fire at pointblank range and Peter are far enough below ground that they should be seeing lots of rats, but he doesn't see a single being chopped in half to kill one and finds that curious. The audience, of course, can guess the rats either got eaten by the giant bugs or fled.them.



* TooDumbToLive: The two kids wandering through the underground subways of Manhattan at night looking for bugs to give to Dr. Susan. Even if there weren't giant man-eating insects infesting the subways, that's a ''really'' stupid thing for kids to be doing.

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* TooDumbToLive: TooDumbToLive:
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The two kids wandering through the underground subways of Manhattan at night looking for bugs to give to Dr. Susan. Even if there weren't giant man-eating insects infesting the subways, that's a ''really'' stupid thing for kids to be doing.doing.
** Susan too. She's wandering through a subway station at closing time alone and walks right up to a strange "man" without thinking about what a horrendous idea this could be. The only reason she isn't killed is because the bug takes her back to the nest as food ''alive''.

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** And of course the whole concept of Mimic 2 is completely absurd. Insects and mammals have completely different chromosome and reproductive methods. The Judas Breed resembling humans wouldn't change that.

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** Near the beginning, a Judas bug stalks Susan outside her apartment, letting out a loud hiss through its mouth (signified by the small cloud of condensation). Insects don't breathe or make sounds through their mouth.
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And of course the whole concept of Mimic 2 is completely absurd. Insects and mammals have completely different chromosome and reproductive methods. The Judas Breed resembling humans wouldn't change that.that.
* ArtisticLicenseLaw: The common ([[JustForFun/TelevisionIsTryingToKillUs and dangerous]]) myth of a mandatory waiting period to report a missing person appears here. Manny is told he can only report Chuy missing after forty-eight hours have passed, leading him to conduct his own search.



* BigCreepyCrawlies: The Judas Breed. They were already fairly large insects originally, but after a few years of accelerated evolution, they eventually become human-sized (and hunting-''eating'').
* BioweaponBeast: The Judas breed was initially engineered to deal with cockroaches (not by hunting them, but by secreting a chemical that's deadly to them). This went awry right after they dealt with the roaches because they eventually moved on to rats, and now people.



* BioweaponBeast: The Judas breed was initially engineered to deal with cockroaches. This went awry right after they dealt with the roaches.



** In the 2nd movie, the female protagonist Remi is implied to be the female prtagonist's sidekick from the first half of the movie, but she looks completely different, is now a redhead instead of a blonde, and is apparently a teacher at a run-down school in the South Bronx.

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** In the 2nd movie, the female protagonist Remi is implied to be the female prtagonist's protagonist's sidekick from the first half of the movie, but she looks completely different, is now a redhead instead of a blonde, and is apparently a teacher at a run-down school in the South Bronx.



* CubCuesProtectiveParent:
** Susan is given (unknowingly) a nymph specimen of the Judas Breed, and an adult soon arrives through her window to retrieve it. She's only spared because [[PlotArmor she's one of the main characters]].
** The two kids who found the nymph later try and steal an ootheca (read: egg sac) from the bugs' nest, and are brutally eviscerated by one of the insects for their trouble.



** Two kids are horribly slaughtered by warrior bugs when they find and try to mess around with an egg case.

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** Two kids are horribly slaughtered by warrior bugs when they find and try to mess around with an egg case. A stray dog is also eaten by one of the insects in the same scene.



* HappyEndingOverride: The mere existence of sequels means that the destruction of the Judas Breed at the end of the first film is retconned to a ShaggyDogStory.



* LawOfInverseFertility: Susan and Peter want kids but she's been failing to get pregnant and it puts a bit of a strain on their marriage despite Peter's continued encouragement.



* MixAndMatchCritters: The Judas Breed are a genetically engineered hybrid of termite and mantis, displaying the termite's eusocial colonial behaviour and chemical secretions, and a mantis's natural mimicry, spiked claws, and voracious predatory habits.



* NoisyNature: The Judas Breed constantly make chittering, hissing, chirping noises wherever they go, even though real insects are virtually silence (with the exception of those like grasshoppers or cicadas that make noise to attract mates). The clicking sounds used by the Judas are even an important plot point, because Chuy is able to communicate with them by imitating their sounds by clacking spoons together.
* NonAnswer: When Susan asks her mentor, Dr. Gates, about whether he still thinks it was right for her to create the Judas Breed, he replies that three years ago he would have considered it unforgivable, but he also realizes that his two grandchildren probably wouldn't be alive now if it weren't for her, so he doesn't consider it right pass judgement anymore.
-->'''Susan:'' That's not an answer, Walter.\\
'''Dr. Gates:''' It's not an easy question.



* PrimalFear: Multiple are used at once: enclosed spaces (most of the story occurs in the abandoned subways), the dark (most of the film is set at night or underground), being EatenAlive (humans are the Judas Breed's preferred prey), and of course, bugs (the Judas Breed).



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%% * SinisterSubwaySinisterSubway: The man-eating Judas Breed are nesting and hunting in the subways of Manhattan, coming outside only when its night. Eventually, the main characters end up trapped in their hive underground.


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* TooDumbToLive: The two kids wandering through the underground subways of Manhattan at night looking for bugs to give to Dr. Susan. Even if there weren't giant man-eating insects infesting the subways, that's a ''really'' stupid thing for kids to be doing.

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