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* RockBeatsLaser: The soldiers are told to be the finest warriors the Free World can produce, and they are pinned down by [[spoiler: a fourteen-year girl with an assault rifle.]]
* SadisticChoice: As a result of the PinnedDown situation described above. [[spoiler:Do you watch your friend scream in agony as a sniper continues to riddle his body with bullets, or run out to help him, likely getting yourself killed as well as a result?]]
* SadisticChoice: As a result of the PinnedDown situation described above. [[spoiler:Do you watch your friend scream in agony as a sniper continues to riddle his body with bullets, or run out to help him, likely getting yourself killed as well as a result?]]
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* RockBeatsLaser: The soldiers are told to be the finest warriors the Free World can produce, and they are pinned down by [[spoiler: a fourteen-year fourteen-year-old girl with an assault rifle.]]
* SadisticChoice: As a result of the PinnedDown situation described above. [[spoiler:Do you watch your friend scream in agony as a sniper continues to riddle his body with bullets, or run out to help him, likely getting yourself killed as wellas a result?]]in the process?]]
* SadisticChoice: As a result of the PinnedDown situation described above. [[spoiler:Do you watch your friend scream in agony as a sniper continues to riddle his body with bullets, or run out to help him, likely getting yourself killed as well
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* SchmuckBait: [[spoiler: Crazy Earl falls for a booby-trapped stuffed rabbit in the middle of a wrecked building, and dies when he trips the bomb.]]
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* SchmuckBait: [[spoiler: Crazy Earl falls for a booby-trapped stuffed rabbit in the middle of a wrecked building, building and dies when he trips the bomb.]]
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** Whoring and comparing body counts are the most popular hobbies in 'Nam.
** Inverted by the Viet Cong, as they launch the Tet offensive during the Vietnamese New Year to surprise the Americans, who had assumed the party would halt the warring. Joker brings up rumors about a breaking of the cease-fire agreement, but his Lieutenant [[CassandraTruth disregards it]].
* SecretSnackStash: The overweight Private Pyle steals and stashes a jelly donut for him to eat later. Unfortunately, it's discovered by the sarge. He forces Pyle to eat the donut while handing out collective punishment to the rest of the recruits. They later beat Pyle as revenge.
** Inverted by the Viet Cong, as they launch the Tet offensive during the Vietnamese New Year to surprise the Americans, who had assumed the party would halt the warring. Joker brings up rumors about a breaking of the cease-fire agreement, but his Lieutenant [[CassandraTruth disregards it]].
* SecretSnackStash: The overweight Private Pyle steals and stashes a jelly donut for him to eat later. Unfortunately, it's discovered by the sarge. He forces Pyle to eat the donut while handing out collective punishment to the rest of the recruits. They later beat Pyle as revenge.
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** Whoring and comparing body counts are the most popular hobbies for US soldiers in 'Nam.
** Inverted by the Viet Cong, as they launch the Tet offensive during the Vietnamese New Year to surprise the Americans, whohad assumed assume the party would halt the warring. Joker brings up rumors about a breaking of the cease-fire agreement, but his Lieutenant [[CassandraTruth disregards it]].
it]] due to [[CryingWolf the same rumor going around every year.]]
* SecretSnackStash: The overweight Private Pyle steals and stashes a jelly donutfor him to eat later. Unfortunately, it's discovered by the sarge. He forces Pyle to eat the donut while handing out collective punishment to the rest of the recruits. They later After enough collective punishment for repeated failings on Pyle's part, they get sick of it and beat Pyle as revenge.him to get even.
** Inverted by the Viet Cong, as they launch the Tet offensive during the Vietnamese New Year to surprise the Americans, who
* SecretSnackStash: The overweight Private Pyle steals and stashes a jelly donut
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* SemperFi: Gunny Hartman believes that the Marines are an elite unit of killers. However, the Marines we see in Vietnam are largely disorganized and demotivated, and they aren't very effective against the VC sniper [[spoiler:who turns out to be a teenage girl.]]
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* SemperFi: Gunny Hartman believes that the Marines are an elite unit of killers. However, the Marines we see in Vietnam are largely disorganized and demotivated, and they aren't very effective against the a lone VC sniper [[spoiler:who turns out to be a teenage girl.]]
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** Lawrence of what? [[Film/LawrenceOfArabia of Arabia?]] [...] only sailors and faggots are called Lawrence.
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** Lawrence "Lawrence of what? what?! [[Film/LawrenceOfArabia of Arabia?]] [...] only Of Arabia?!]] ... Only sailors and faggots are called Lawrence.Lawrence!
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** A remarkable aversion is visible during Cowboy's final scene, where a building that resembles the monolith of ''2001'' is visible. Kubrick described it as an "extraordinary accident".
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** A remarkable aversion is visible during Cowboy's final scene, where a building that resembles the monolith of ''2001'' is visible. Kubrick described it as an "extraordinary accident".accident."
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-->"Hiiiii.. Jooooker..."
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** Where do we ''start''... [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Animal Mother]] is probably the most spectacular example
** ...as is the Door Gunner who shoots up rice paddies and farmers. He turns it up to eleven.
** The entire ''point'' of the film. [[spoiler: See how Leonard has to become crazy to be a ''good soldier''.]] This is keeping with the concept of dehumanization.
** ...as is the Door Gunner who shoots up rice paddies and farmers. He turns it up to eleven.
** The entire ''point'' of the film. [[spoiler: See how Leonard has to become crazy to be a ''good soldier''.]] This is keeping with the concept of dehumanization.
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** Where do we ''start''... ? The door gunner is probably the most spectacular example.
** [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Animal Mother]]is probably the most spectacular example
** ...as is the Door Gunner who shoots up rice paddies and farmers. He turns it up to eleven.
isn't far behind him.
** The entire ''point'' of the film. [[spoiler: See how Leonard has to become crazy to be a ''good soldier''.]] This is in keeping with the concept of dehumanization.
** [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Animal Mother]]
** ...as is the Door Gunner who shoots up rice paddies and farmers. He turns it up to eleven.
** The entire ''point'' of the film. [[spoiler: See how Leonard has to become crazy to be a ''good soldier''.]] This is in keeping with the concept of dehumanization.
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*** Hartman himself gets a few minor examples in that some of the disciplinary tactics he reserves for Pyle arguably cross into psychological abuse territory.
** Crazy Earl, who "befriends" with a dead NVA soldier and keeps his corpse on a chair at the Lusthog Squad camp.
** Crazy Earl, who "befriends" with a dead NVA soldier and keeps his corpse on a chair at the Lusthog Squad camp.
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*** Hartman himself gets a few minor examples in that some of the disciplinary tactics he reserves for Pyle arguably cross into both physical and psychological abuse territory.
** Crazy Earl, who "befriends"with a dead NVA soldier and keeps his corpse on a chair at the Lusthog Squad camp.
** Crazy Earl, who "befriends"
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* SockItToThem: The infamous "blanket party" scene, where everyone [[spoiler: puts a bar of soap in a sock, and participates in a run-by pummeling of Leonard]].
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* SockItToThem: The infamous "blanket party" scene, where everyone [[spoiler: puts a bar of soap in a sock, sock and participates in a run-by pummeling of Leonard]].Leonard as he's tied down with a blanket]].
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-->'''Sgt. Hartman: ''' Private Joker is silly and he's ignorant but he has guts, and guts is enough.
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-->'''Sgt. Hartman: ''' Private Joker is silly and he's ignorant ignorant, but he has guts, and guts is enough.
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* ReliablyUnreliableGuns: Joker's rifle jams on him at the worst moment in the climax.
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* ReliablyUnreliableGuns: Joker's rifle jams on him at the worst moment in the climax. TruthInTelevision, as M16 ammo at the time was terribly unreliable in Vietnam due to the high humidity causing it to expand to a width that wouldn't shoot through the weapon properly.
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* HandGun: Joker pulls out his sidearm, a [[CoolGuns/{{Handguns}} M1911]], when confronting the sniper after finding out his M16 has either jammed or is out of ammo. Shortly after, he uses it to finish her off.
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* HandGun: Joker pulls out his sidearm, a [[CoolGuns/{{Handguns}} M1911]], when confronting the sniper after finding out his M16 has either jammed or is out of ammo.jammed. Shortly after, he uses it to finish her off.
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** [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] and [[DefiedTrope defied]] when Hartman asks Joker whether he believes in the Virgin Mary. Joker says "no". Hartman slaps Joker, and then asks him whether he believes in the Virgin Mary now. Joker still says "no", explaining that he believes [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption any answer he gives will be wrong]] and that Hartman will only punish Joker harder for reversing himself. Hartman [[TakeAThirdOption responds by]] [[PromotionNotPunishment promoting Joker to squad leader]], stating that "Private Joker is silly and ignorant, but he's got guts, [[ThePeterPrinciple and guts is enough]]."
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** [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] and [[DefiedTrope defied]] when Hartman asks Joker whether he believes in the Virgin Mary. Joker says "no".no. Hartman slaps Joker, and then asks him whether he believes in the Virgin Mary now. Joker still says "no", no, explaining that he believes [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption any answer he gives will be wrong]] and that Hartman will only punish Joker harder for reversing himself. Hartman [[TakeAThirdOption responds by]] [[PromotionNotPunishment promoting Joker to squad leader]], stating that that, "Private Joker is silly and ignorant, but he's got guts, [[ThePeterPrinciple and guts is enough]]."
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* MundaneMadeAwesome: Just about anything Hartman does, but special mention goes to the footlocker scene, where he reacts to the presence of a jelly doughnut ("What is that?"..."What the fuck is that?!"..."WHAT IS THAT, PRIVATE PYLE!?") like he's watching some horrifically {{Squick}}-y shock video.
* MurderSuicide: After [[spoiler: Private Pyle kills Sgt. Hartman, he seems to realize that he'll be severely punished, perhaps even executed, for his crime, and shoots himself in the mouth. Or, he's just in a world of shit and doesn't want to live anymore regardless]].
* MurderSuicide: After [[spoiler: Private Pyle kills Sgt. Hartman, he seems to realize that he'll be severely punished, perhaps even executed, for his crime, and shoots himself in the mouth. Or, he's just in a world of shit and doesn't want to live anymore regardless]].
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* MundaneMadeAwesome: Just about anything Hartman does, but special mention goes to the footlocker scene, where he reacts to the presence of a jelly doughnut ("What is that?"..."What that? ...What the fuck is that?!"..."WHAT that?! ...WHAT IS THAT, PRIVATE PYLE!?") PYLE?!") like he's watching some horrifically {{Squick}}-y shock video.
* MurderSuicide: After [[spoiler: Private Pyle kills Sgt. Hartman, he seems to realize that he'll be severelypunished, punished and perhaps even executed, executed for his crime, and so he shoots himself in the mouth. Or, he's just in a world of shit and doesn't want to live anymore regardless]].regardless].]
* MurderSuicide: After [[spoiler: Private Pyle kills Sgt. Hartman, he seems to realize that he'll be severely
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** After meeting Joker, Hartman sarcastically tells him that "you can come over to my house and fuck my sister." Followed by a punch to Joker's gut.
** Subverted; while cleaning the head (bathroom) Joker says to Cowboy "I wanna slip my tube steak into your sister. What'll you take in trade?" to which Cowboy simply replies "What've you got?" Cowboy later brings it up again in Vietnam when he asks if Joker has been getting any, to which Joker replies, "Only your sister".
** Subverted; while cleaning the head (bathroom) Joker says to Cowboy "I wanna slip my tube steak into your sister. What'll you take in trade?" to which Cowboy simply replies "What've you got?" Cowboy later brings it up again in Vietnam when he asks if Joker has been getting any, to which Joker replies, "Only your sister".
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** After meeting Joker, Hartman sarcastically tells him that "you him, "You can come over to my house and fuck my sister." Followed sister," followed by a punch to Joker's gut.
**Subverted; while Subverted. While cleaning the head (bathroom) (aka restroom) Joker says to Cowboy Cowboy, "I wanna slip my [[UnusualEuphemism tube steak steak]] into your sister. What'll you take in trade?" to which Cowboy simply replies replies, "What've you got?" Cowboy later brings it up again in Vietnam when he asks if Joker has been getting any, to which Joker replies, "Only your sister".sister!"
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* NiceJobBreakingItHero: Hartman's overly harsh manner, combined with the marines' abuse of Pyle eventually push him to become a model soldier... only for him to spiral into insanity as they have pushed him past his breaking point, leading to his murder of Hartman and his own death as he commits suicide.
* NicknamingTheEnemy: The Marines casually use the disparaging word "gook" more often than "Vietnamese". The neutral moniker "Charlie" is also used sporadically.
* NoodleIncident: At one point, Pyle is seen walking behind the grunts marching in parade formation, sucking his thumb with his pants around his ankles and holding his rifle by the barrel. Why is never explained (though it was presumably a punishment [[{{Jerkass}} Hartman]] meted out on him).
* NoOneGetsLeftBehind: Cowboy actually wants to leave [[spoiler:Eightball and Doc Jay]] behind, realizing that they can't save them anyway, and the sniper is trying to lure the rest of the Marines out. However, Animal Mother refuses to follow his orders.
* NicknamingTheEnemy: The Marines casually use the disparaging word "gook" more often than "Vietnamese". The neutral moniker "Charlie" is also used sporadically.
* NoodleIncident: At one point, Pyle is seen walking behind the grunts marching in parade formation, sucking his thumb with his pants around his ankles and holding his rifle by the barrel. Why is never explained (though it was presumably a punishment [[{{Jerkass}} Hartman]] meted out on him).
* NoOneGetsLeftBehind: Cowboy actually wants to leave [[spoiler:Eightball and Doc Jay]] behind, realizing that they can't save them anyway, and the sniper is trying to lure the rest of the Marines out. However, Animal Mother refuses to follow his orders.
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* NiceJobBreakingItHero: Hartman's overly harsh manner, combined with the marines' abuse of Pyle Pyle, eventually push pushes him to become a model soldier... soldier...only for him to spiral into insanity as they have they've pushed him past his breaking point, leading to his murder [[spoiler:murder of Hartman and his own death as he commits suicide.
suicide.]]
* NicknamingTheEnemy: The Marines casually use the disparaging word "gook" more often than"Vietnamese". "Vietnamese." The neutral moniker "Charlie" is also used sporadically.
sporadically. Comes in comedic use when Animal Mother is being interviewed on camera and with a long pause clearly has a hard time trying to stop himself from using the slur in favor of "Vietnamese."
* NoodleIncident: At one point, Pyle is seen walking behind the grunts marching in parade formation, sucking his thumb with his pants around his ankles and holding his rifle by the barrel. Why is neverexplained (though it was explained, though it's presumably a punishment [[{{Jerkass}} Hartman]] meted metes out on him).
him.
* NoOneGetsLeftBehind: Cowboy actually wants to leave[[spoiler:Eightball [[spoiler:Eight-ball and Doc Jay]] behind, realizing that they can't save them anyway, and the sniper is trying to lure the rest of the Marines out. However, Animal Mother refuses to follow his orders.orders and leads the platoon out into danger, getting [[spoiler:the cautious Cowboy killed in the process.]]
* NicknamingTheEnemy: The Marines casually use the disparaging word "gook" more often than
* NoodleIncident: At one point, Pyle is seen walking behind the grunts marching in parade formation, sucking his thumb with his pants around his ankles and holding his rifle by the barrel. Why is never
* NoOneGetsLeftBehind: Cowboy actually wants to leave
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** Hartman, upon being informed that [[spoiler: Private Pyle has a full magazine, and is locked and loaded.]]
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** Hartman, upon being informed that [[spoiler: Private Pyle has a full magazine, and is magazine locked and loaded.]]
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** Animal Mother, when his attempt to [[spoiler: rescue Eightball and Doc Jay leads to their deaths and a near-miss with the sniper.]]
** Joker, when he [[spoiler: tries to shoot the VC sniper in the back, only to hear a click, indicating his rifle is jammed and he just let the sniper know he's there.]]
* OnlyKnownByTheirNickname: Most of the Marines. Joker, Cowboy, Rafterman, Animal Mother, and 8-Ball. Leonard Lawrence is called by his nickname [[Series/GomerPyleUSMC Gomer Pyle]] so frequently that it seems like his actual name.
* OnlySaneMan: In the Lusthog Squad, Cowboy. Everyone else appears to be just plain insane.
** Joker, when he [[spoiler: tries to shoot the VC sniper in the back, only to hear a click, indicating his rifle is jammed and he just let the sniper know he's there.]]
* OnlyKnownByTheirNickname: Most of the Marines. Joker, Cowboy, Rafterman, Animal Mother, and 8-Ball. Leonard Lawrence is called by his nickname [[Series/GomerPyleUSMC Gomer Pyle]] so frequently that it seems like his actual name.
* OnlySaneMan: In the Lusthog Squad, Cowboy. Everyone else appears to be just plain insane.
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** Animal Mother, when his attempt to [[spoiler: rescue Eightball Eight-ball and Doc Jay leads to their deaths and a near-miss of his own with the sniper.]]
** Joker, when he [[spoiler: tries to shoot the VC sniper in theback, back only to hear a click, indicating his rifle is jammed and he he's just let the sniper know he's there.]]
* OnlyKnownByTheirNickname: Most of the Marines. Joker, Cowboy, Rafterman, Animal Mother, Snowball, and 8-Ball. Leonard Lawrence is called by his nickname [[Series/GomerPyleUSMC Gomer Pyle]] so frequently that it seems like his actual name.
* OnlySaneMan: In the Lusthog Squad, Cowboy.Everyone Just about everyone else appears to be just plain insane.
** Joker, when he [[spoiler: tries to shoot the VC sniper in the
* OnlyKnownByTheirNickname: Most of the Marines. Joker, Cowboy, Rafterman, Animal Mother, Snowball, and 8-Ball. Leonard Lawrence is called by his nickname [[Series/GomerPyleUSMC Gomer Pyle]] so frequently that it seems like his actual name.
* OnlySaneMan: In the Lusthog Squad, Cowboy.
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--> '''Joker''': Only your sister.
--> '''Cowboy''': Well, better my sister than my mom, though my mom's not bad.
--> '''Cowboy''': Well, better my sister than my mom, though my mom's not bad.
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--> '''Joker''': Only your sister.
sister!
--> '''Cowboy''': Well, better my sister than my mom, though my mom's notbad.bad!
--> '''Cowboy''': Well, better my sister than my mom, though my mom's not
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-->'''Hartman:''' Outstanding, Private Pyle. I think we finally found something that you do well!
** There is a cruel subversion earlier on. At one point Hartman sings "Happy Birthday" to the parade, implying that it is a special day for one of the recruits, only he ends it with "Happy Birthday Dear Jesus" and it's Christmas... with no letters or presents, just a mandatory chapel service.
* PhysicalFitnessPunishment: Hartman [[IWillPunishYourFriendForYourFailure punishes the squad for Pyle's failures]] with physical exercise.
** There is a cruel subversion earlier on. At one point Hartman sings "Happy Birthday" to the parade, implying that it is a special day for one of the recruits, only he ends it with "Happy Birthday Dear Jesus" and it's Christmas... with no letters or presents, just a mandatory chapel service.
* PhysicalFitnessPunishment: Hartman [[IWillPunishYourFriendForYourFailure punishes the squad for Pyle's failures]] with physical exercise.
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-->'''Hartman:''' Outstanding, Private Pyle. I think we we've finally found something that you do well!
** There is a cruel subversion earlier on. At one point Hartman sings "Happy Birthday" to the parade, implying that it is a special day for one of the recruits, only he ends itwith with, "Happy Birthday Dear Jesus" dear Jesus," and it's Christmas... Christmas...with no letters or presents, just a mandatory chapel service.
* PhysicalFitnessPunishment: After direct, individual punishment and humiliation doesn't work, Hartman [[IWillPunishYourFriendForYourFailurepunishes begins punishing the entire squad for Pyle's failures]] with physical exercise.
** There is a cruel subversion earlier on. At one point Hartman sings "Happy Birthday" to the parade, implying that it is a special day for one of the recruits, only he ends it
* PhysicalFitnessPunishment: After direct, individual punishment and humiliation doesn't work, Hartman [[IWillPunishYourFriendForYourFailure
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* PoliticallyIncorrectHero: All of the soldiers are openly racist.
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* PoliticallyIncorrectHero: All of the soldiers are openly racist.racist, which was par for the course at the time the film takes place.
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* PropagandaMachine: The ''Stars and Stripes'', which hires Joker.
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* PropagandaMachine: The ''Stars and & Stripes'', which hires Joker.
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** "I ''AM''... in a world... of shit."
* RatedMForManly: While the movie is a deconstruction of the tribal, primal nature of war and the military with some over-the-top elements that verge on TestosteronePoisoning, there are still plenty of gutsy themes associated with traditional masculinity as well such as hijinx, mixed with strength, bravery, and vitriolic comradeship.
* ARealManIsAKiller: An implicit motto of the Corps, which serves to underscore the dehumanization motifs. The recruits stop being pukes and maggots when they become Marines, the Marines want killers, not robots, and a full-fledged Marine only hatches after gaining the ThousandYardStare, often associated with his first kill.
* RatedMForManly: While the movie is a deconstruction of the tribal, primal nature of war and the military with some over-the-top elements that verge on TestosteronePoisoning, there are still plenty of gutsy themes associated with traditional masculinity as well such as hijinx, mixed with strength, bravery, and vitriolic comradeship.
* ARealManIsAKiller: An implicit motto of the Corps, which serves to underscore the dehumanization motifs. The recruits stop being pukes and maggots when they become Marines, the Marines want killers, not robots, and a full-fledged Marine only hatches after gaining the ThousandYardStare, often associated with his first kill.
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** "I ''AM''... in a world... world...of shit."
* RatedMForManly: While the movie is a deconstruction of thetribal, primal tribal and absurd nature of war and the military with some over-the-top elements that verge on TestosteronePoisoning, there are still plenty of gutsy themes associated with traditional masculinity as well such as hijinx, mixed with strength, bravery, and vitriolic comradeship.
* ARealManIsAKiller: An implicit motto of the Corps, which serves to underscore the dehumanization motifs. The recruits stop being pukes and maggots when they becomeMarines, Marines; the Marines want killers, not robots, robots; and a full-fledged Marine only hatches after gaining the ThousandYardStare, often associated with his first kill.
* RatedMForManly: While the movie is a deconstruction of the
* ARealManIsAKiller: An implicit motto of the Corps, which serves to underscore the dehumanization motifs. The recruits stop being pukes and maggots when they become
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* KickTheDog: The Door Gunner is not happy enough killing unarmed civilians, he also goes out of his way to kill their water buffaloes, all of said kills being certified.
** The entire platoon gets one when they torture poor Pyle with the blanket party.
** The entire platoon gets one when they torture poor Pyle with the blanket party.
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* KickTheDog: The Door Gunner is could not happy enough be happier while killing unarmed civilians, and he also goes out of his way to kill their water buffaloes, all of said kills being certified.
buffaloes.
** The entire platoon gets one when they torture poor Pyle with the blanketparty.party, but this is just payback for his constant screwups causing ''them'' endless suffering.
** The entire platoon gets one when they torture poor Pyle with the blanket
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* LeadTheTarget: The door gunner's procedure regarding slower and smaller targets... if you want to shoot women and children, you just don't lead them so much.
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* LeadTheTarget: The door gunner's procedure regarding slower and smaller targets... if you want to shoot women and children, you just don't lead them so much.
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* LeeroyJenkins: Doc Jay can't be bothered to wait for tank support and runs in to save Eightball from the sniper. A decision that [[spoiler:costs his and Cowboy's life]]. Animal Mother does the same thing, but fares better due to having a bigger gun.
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* LeeroyJenkins: Doc Jay can't be bothered to wait for tank support and runs in to save Eightball Eight-ball from the sniper. A sniper, a decision that [[spoiler:costs his and Cowboy's life]]. lives]]. Animal Mother does the same thing, but fares better due to having a bigger gun.gun and sticking to walls rather than running into the wide open.
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* ManHug: Joker and Cowboy share a rather heartfelt one when they are reunited.
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* ManHug: Joker and Cowboy share a rather heartfelt one when they are they're reunited.
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** Private Joker, "a fucking comedian".
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** Private Joker, "a fucking comedian".comedian."
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** Private Eightball, as '8' ball in billiards is all-black.
* MercyKill: [[spoiler: The VC sniper asks for this. Joker eventually performs it, and the rest of the squad compliment him on his cold-blooded killing, when it was really an act of mercy.]]
* MercyKill: [[spoiler: The VC sniper asks for this. Joker eventually performs it, and the rest of the squad compliment him on his cold-blooded killing, when it was really an act of mercy.]]
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** Private Eightball, Eight-ball, as '8' ball in billiards is all-black.
* MercyKill: [[spoiler: The VC sniper asks for this. Joker eventually performs it, and the rest of the squadcompliment compliments him on his cold-blooded killing, killing when it was it's really an act of mercy.]]
* MercyKill: [[spoiler: The VC sniper asks for this. Joker eventually performs it, and the rest of the squad
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** Though it was not unheard of for Canadians to join the US Military and volunteer to go to Vietnam.
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** Though it It was not unheard of for Canadians to join the US Military and volunteer to go to Vietnam.Vietnam, however.
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** In-universe, done intentionally by Joker. In a meeting with his fellow "Stars and Stripes" Marines, after being informed by Lt. Lockhart about the Tet offensive by the NVA and how bad the situation is, Joker, asks, after a few moments of silence, "[[BrickJoke Sir, does this mean that Ann-Margret's not coming?]]"
** There are numerous mood whiplashes in the film: 1. The opening 3–4 minutes with the heads being shaved followed by Hartman's rant are somewhat amusing. We could all relate to Pyle's stupid little grin, until he's choked and asked "are you through grinning yet?" He is, and so is the audience. 2. Rounds and rounds of fire being exchanged, cease fire, tense moments of silence...then "Surfin' Bird." by The Trashmen starts. 3. Standing over the body of their dead commander: "you're going home now". "Semper Fi". "We're mean Marines sir". "Better you than me."
** After the horrific MurderSuicide, the next shot is of the hooker walking to the tune of "These Boots Are Made for Walkin'".
** When Joker and Rafterman arrive at the burial site, they press a nearby lieutenant for details. He's clearly annoyed, until they reveal they are reporters for Stars and Stripes. He warms to them at once.
*** Taken even further, as he describes the horrific details as he repeatedly cheeses for the pictures.
** There are numerous mood whiplashes in the film: 1. The opening 3–4 minutes with the heads being shaved followed by Hartman's rant are somewhat amusing. We could all relate to Pyle's stupid little grin, until he's choked and asked "are you through grinning yet?" He is, and so is the audience. 2. Rounds and rounds of fire being exchanged, cease fire, tense moments of silence...then "Surfin' Bird." by The Trashmen starts. 3. Standing over the body of their dead commander: "you're going home now". "Semper Fi". "We're mean Marines sir". "Better you than me."
** After the horrific MurderSuicide, the next shot is of the hooker walking to the tune of "These Boots Are Made for Walkin'".
** When Joker and Rafterman arrive at the burial site, they press a nearby lieutenant for details. He's clearly annoyed, until they reveal they are reporters for Stars and Stripes. He warms to them at once.
*** Taken even further, as he describes the horrific details as he repeatedly cheeses for the pictures.
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** In-universe, done intentionally by Joker. In a meeting with his fellow "Stars and Stripes" ''Stars & Stripes'' Marines, after being informed by Lt. Lockhart about the Tet offensive by the NVA and how bad the situation is, Joker, Joker asks, after a few moments of silence, "[[BrickJoke Sir, does this mean that Ann-Margret's not coming?]]"
** There are numerous mood whiplashes in the film:1. 1) The opening 3–4 minutes with the heads being shaved followed by Hartman's rant are somewhat amusing. We could all relate to Pyle's stupid little grin, until he's choked and asked "are asked, "Are you through grinning yet?" He is, and so is the audience. 2. 2) Rounds and rounds of fire being exchanged, cease fire, cease-fire, tense moments of silence...then "Surfin' Bird." Bird" by The Trashmen starts. 3. 3) Standing over the body of their dead commander: "you're commander, the troops say their final words to him one by one: "You're going home now". now." "Semper Fi". Fi." "We're mean Marines sir". Marines, sir." "Better you than me."
** After the horrific MurderSuicide, the next shot is of the hooker walking to the tune of "These Boots Are Made forWalkin'".
Walkin'."
** When Joker and Rafterman arrive at the burial site, they press a nearby lieutenant for details. He's clearlyannoyed, annoyed and guarded until they reveal they are that they're reporters for Stars and Stripes. ''Stars & Stripes''. He warms to them at once.
*** Taken even further, as he describesonce and immediately starts smiling for every one of a good ten photos in between recounting the horrific details as he repeatedly cheeses for atrocities they've committed against the pictures.locals.
** There are numerous mood whiplashes in the film:
** After the horrific MurderSuicide, the next shot is of the hooker walking to the tune of "These Boots Are Made for
** When Joker and Rafterman arrive at the burial site, they press a nearby lieutenant for details. He's clearly
*** Taken even further, as he describes
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** Gunnery Sergeant Hartman was specifically played by ex-drill sergeant Creator/RLeeErmey as a bully who sucks at his job. Hartman spends his time berating his recruits more than instructing them, eventually latching onto one who's clearly out of his element. Nicknaming him after a dimwit from a popular TV show, Hartman proceeds to encourage the rest of his trainees to mistreat the poor guy in an attempt to break his mind.
** The door gunner is a sociopathic sadist who enjoys warfare far more than he should. While transporting Joker to his destination, he picks off every Vietnamese person he sees, soldier or civilian, with a smile on his face. claiming they're all the enemy whether it's true or not. His last line is him jokingly asking "Ain't war hell?," despite clearly loving it.
** The door gunner is a sociopathic sadist who enjoys warfare far more than he should. While transporting Joker to his destination, he picks off every Vietnamese person he sees, soldier or civilian, with a smile on his face. claiming they're all the enemy whether it's true or not. His last line is him jokingly asking "Ain't war hell?," despite clearly loving it.
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** Gunnery Sergeant Hartman was specifically played by ex-drill sergeant Creator/RLeeErmey as a bully who sucks at his job. Hartman spends his time berating his recruits more than instructing them, eventually latching onto one who's clearly out of his element. Nicknaming him after a dimwit from a popular TV show, Hartman proceeds to encourage the rest of his trainees to mistreat the poor guy in an attempt to make him fall in line and get in shape. All it does is break his the guy's already fragile mind.
** The door gunner is a sociopathic sadist who enjoys warfare far more than he should. While transporting Joker to his destination, he picks off every Vietnamese person he sees, soldier or civilian, with a smile on his face. claiming they're all the enemy whether it's true or not. His last line is him jokinglyasking asking, "Ain't war hell?," hell?" despite clearly loving it.
** The door gunner is a sociopathic sadist who enjoys warfare far more than he should. While transporting Joker to his destination, he picks off every Vietnamese person he sees, soldier or civilian, with a smile on his face. claiming they're all the enemy whether it's true or not. His last line is him jokingly
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-->'''Recruit:''' Sir! Five foot nine sir!\\
'''Hartmann:''' Five foot nine, I didn't know they stacked shit that high!
'''Hartmann:''' Five foot nine, I didn't know they stacked shit that high!
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-->'''Recruit:''' Sir! Five foot nine Five-foot-nine, sir!\\
'''Hartmann:'''Five foot nine, Five-foot-nine, I didn't know they stacked ''stacked'' shit that high!
'''Hartmann:'''
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* HugeGuyTinyGirl: The second Vietnamese prostitute is a petite young woman (Cowboy greets her with "Good morning, little schoolgirl!") Next to Animal Mother (played by the 6'4 tall Adam Baldwin), she looks like a child.
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* HugeGuyTinyGirl: The second Vietnamese prostitute is a petite young woman (Cowboy greets her with "Good morning, little schoolgirl!") Next to Animal Mother (played by the 6'4 tall 6'4"-tall Adam Baldwin), she looks like a child.
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* ICallItVera: Enforced by [=GySgt=] Hartman, taken very seriously by Pvt. Pyle. His weapon's name is Charlene.
* ICannotSelfTerminate: The sniper, who gets mortally wounded - perhaps paralyzed - in the firefight with Rafterman
* ICannotSelfTerminate: The sniper, who gets mortally wounded - perhaps paralyzed - in the firefight with Rafterman
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* ICallItVera: Enforced by [=GySgt=] Hartman, taken very seriously by Pvt. Pyle. His Pyle; his weapon's name is Charlene.
* ICannotSelfTerminate: The sniper, who gets mortallywounded - perhaps paralyzed - in the firefight wounded--perhaps paralyzed--when Rafterman ambushes her with Raftermanrifle fire.
* ICannotSelfTerminate: The sniper, who gets mortally
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* IWillPunishYourFriendForYourFailure: After a routine inspection turns up a stolen jelly doughnut in Pvt. Pyle's footlocker, [[DrillSergeantNasty Gunnery Sergeant Hartman]] comes to the conclusion that reprimanding Pyle will solve nothing. So he announces to the platoon that from that point on, whenever Pyle screws up, everyone else will have to do [=P.T.=] while he just looks at them, in the hopes that this will motivate Pyle into becoming a proper Marine. [[GoneHorriblyRight It works,]] but probably [[SanitySlippage not in the way Hartman intended.]]
* ImportantHaircut: The opening montage is of new recruits with many varied hairstyles, colours, lengths, etc undergoing the ritual head shave of the Marines, emerging with identical buzzcuts.
* ImprovisedWeapon: When Leonard shows that he's not quite making the cut in boot, even under Joker's tutelage, the recruits each wrap their soap bars into a towel, making what's essentially a low-end blackjack. Cowboy gags Leonard with a pair of socks, a few others hold him down with the help of a blanket, and the rest quickly take turns hitting Leonard, except Joker, who hesitates and then furiously hits Leonard several times. Joker was the one who was trying desperately to get Leonard to get up to snuff, and failed to motivate him to do so.
* InsistentTerminology: "''This'' is my rifle, ''this'' is my gun...." TruthInTelevision.
* IntimidationDemonstration: After a Vietnamese boy steals a camera and tosses it to his friend on a bike, he turns around and starts doing a [[AllAsiansKnowMartialArts series of palm strikes]] in the air and making fierce screams, then does a spin kick. Joker then proceeds to imitate him from a distance...with a single, half-assed jumpkick.
* IronicJuxtaposition: Joker wears a peace sign on his shirt, while his helmet says, "Born to Kill." ("I think I was trying to suggest something about [[UsefulNotes/CarlJung the duality of man]], sir.") This is most noticeable during the final scene, when Joker executes the female sniper. Both the "Born to Kill" phrase and the peace sign are visible as Joker struggles to pull the trigger. The exact moment the sign is obscured, he kills her.
* ImportantHaircut: The opening montage is of new recruits with many varied hairstyles, colours, lengths, etc undergoing the ritual head shave of the Marines, emerging with identical buzzcuts.
* ImprovisedWeapon: When Leonard shows that he's not quite making the cut in boot, even under Joker's tutelage, the recruits each wrap their soap bars into a towel, making what's essentially a low-end blackjack. Cowboy gags Leonard with a pair of socks, a few others hold him down with the help of a blanket, and the rest quickly take turns hitting Leonard, except Joker, who hesitates and then furiously hits Leonard several times. Joker was the one who was trying desperately to get Leonard to get up to snuff, and failed to motivate him to do so.
* InsistentTerminology: "''This'' is my rifle, ''this'' is my gun...." TruthInTelevision.
* IntimidationDemonstration: After a Vietnamese boy steals a camera and tosses it to his friend on a bike, he turns around and starts doing a [[AllAsiansKnowMartialArts series of palm strikes]] in the air and making fierce screams, then does a spin kick. Joker then proceeds to imitate him from a distance...with a single, half-assed jumpkick.
* IronicJuxtaposition: Joker wears a peace sign on his shirt, while his helmet says, "Born to Kill." ("I think I was trying to suggest something about [[UsefulNotes/CarlJung the duality of man]], sir.") This is most noticeable during the final scene, when Joker executes the female sniper. Both the "Born to Kill" phrase and the peace sign are visible as Joker struggles to pull the trigger. The exact moment the sign is obscured, he kills her.
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* IWillPunishYourFriendForYourFailure: After a routine inspection turns up a stolen jelly doughnut in Pvt. Pyle's footlocker, [[DrillSergeantNasty Gunnery Sergeant Hartman]] comes to the conclusion that reprimanding continuing to reprimand Pyle will solve is accomplishing nothing. So Thus, he announces to the platoon that from that point on, whenever Pyle screws up, everyone else will have to do [=P.T.=] while he just looks at them, in the hopes that this will either motivate Pyle into becoming a proper Marine.Marine or motivate the platoon into better motivating ''him'' to get with the program. [[GoneHorriblyRight It works,]] but probably [[SanitySlippage not in the way Hartman intended.]]
* ImportantHaircut: The opening montage is of new recruits with many varied hairstyles, colours, lengths,etc etc. undergoing the ritual head shave of the Marines, emerging with identical buzzcuts.
* ImprovisedWeapon: When Leonard shows that he's not quite making the cut inboot, boot camp even under Joker's tutelage, the recruits each wrap their soap bars into a towel, in towels, making what's what are essentially a low-end blackjack. blackjacks. Cowboy gags Leonard with a pair of socks, a few others hold him down with the help of a blanket, and the rest quickly take turns hitting Leonard, except for Joker, who at first hesitates and then furiously subsequently unleashes a series of furious hits Leonard several times. Joker was on Leonard. Joker's been the one who was trying desperately to get Leonard to get up to snuff, snuff and failed to motivate him to do so.
so despite his best efforts, and now the entire platoon is paying for it.
* InsistentTerminology: "''This'' is my rifle, ''this'' is mygun....gun..." TruthInTelevision.
* IntimidationDemonstration: After a Vietnamese boy steals a camera and tosses it to his friend on a bike, he turns around and starts doing a [[AllAsiansKnowMartialArts series of palm strikes]] in the air and making fierce screams, then does a spin kick. Joker then proceeds toimitate mock him from a distance...distance with a single, half-assed jumpkick.
* IronicJuxtaposition: Joker wears a peace sign on hisshirt, shirt while his helmet says, "Born to Kill." ("I think I was trying to suggest something about [[UsefulNotes/CarlJung the duality of man]], sir.") This is most noticeable during the final scene, when scene [[spoiler:when Joker executes the female sniper.sniper]]. Both the "Born to Kill" phrase and the peace sign are visible as Joker struggles to pull the trigger. The exact moment the peace sign is obscured, he kills her.
* ImportantHaircut: The opening montage is of new recruits with many varied hairstyles, colours, lengths,
* ImprovisedWeapon: When Leonard shows that he's not quite making the cut in
* InsistentTerminology: "''This'' is my rifle, ''this'' is my
* IntimidationDemonstration: After a Vietnamese boy steals a camera and tosses it to his friend on a bike, he turns around and starts doing a [[AllAsiansKnowMartialArts series of palm strikes]] in the air and making fierce screams, then does a spin kick. Joker then proceeds to
* IronicJuxtaposition: Joker wears a peace sign on his
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* IronicNurseryTune: The film ends with the marines marching through burning ruins back to camp while singing the "Mickey Mouse March".
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* IronicNurseryTune: The film ends with the marines marching through burning ruins back to camp while singing the "Mickey Mouse March".March."
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* JustPlaneWrong: A minor offender — the helicopter which transports Joker and Rafter Man to Hue is British built Westland Wessex — a licence variant of Sikorsky HUS-1/UH-34 used by the USMC in the war, but powered by turboshaft engines and thus with minor yet visible visual differences.
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* JustPlaneWrong: A minor offender — the offender. The helicopter which transports Joker and Rafter Man to Hue is British built British-built Westland Wessex — Wessex, a licence licenced variant of Sikorsky HUS-1/UH-34 used by the USMC in the war, war but powered by turboshaft engines and thus with engines, giving it minor yet visible visual differences.
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** In the 1960s it was acceptable for Drill Sergeants to strike recruits, but no longer.
** Same goes for the infamous "This is my rifle, this is my gun. This is for fighting, this is for fun."
** Also applies to the "Eskimo pussy is mighty cold" cadence that the recruits chant while running. In general, this was a lot more common before women were integrated into the US military in the 1970's. The military was allowed to get away with chanting cadences that had more sexual references or sex-related humor in them.
** Same goes for the infamous "This is my rifle, this is my gun. This is for fighting, this is for fun."
** Also applies to the "Eskimo pussy is mighty cold" cadence that the recruits chant while running. In general, this was a lot more common before women were integrated into the US military in the 1970's. The military was allowed to get away with chanting cadences that had more sexual references or sex-related humor in them.
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** In the 1960s it was acceptable for Drill Sergeants drill sergeants to strike recruits, but no longer.
** Same goes for theinfamous infamous, "This is my rifle, this is my gun. This is for fighting, this is for fun."
** Also applies tothe the, "Eskimo pussy is mighty cold" cold," cadence that the recruits chant while running. In general, this was a lot more common before women were integrated into the US military in the 1970's.1970s. The military was allowed to get away with chanting cadences that had more sexual references or sex-related humor in them.
** Same goes for the
** Also applies to
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* DespairEventHorizon: Private Pyle
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* DespairEventHorizon: Private PylePyle.
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* DontCelebrateJustYet: [[spoiler: The night past the graduation, Pyle kills Hartman and himself.]]
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* DontCelebrateJustYet: [[spoiler: The night past the of graduation, Pyle kills Hartman and himself.]]
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** The German dub changed Private Pyle's nickname to "Private Paula", replacing the insult of being an incompetent Marine (as Gomer Pyle was on ''Series/TheAndyGriffithShow'') with one of being a woman. "Private Snowball" became "Private Scheewittchen", which means "Private Literature/SnowWhite," keeping the IronicNickname [[{{Woolseyism}} and adding the additional insult of being like a fairy princess]].
** The French dub changes "Private Snowball" into "Engagé Blanche-Neige" ("Private Snow White", again). "Gomer Pyle"[=/=]"Private Pyle" becomes "Grosse Baleine" ("Fat Whale") and "Engagé Baleine" ("Private Whale"). Animal Mother becomes "Brute Epaisse" ("Dumb Brute").
* EmpathyDollShot: [[spoiler: Subverted. One of the Marines finds an oversized stuffed rabbit lying in the rubble of Hue, and picks it up out of confusion. It's attached to an ''antipersonnel mine''. Boom.]]
* EtTuBrute: During the "blanket party," what really hurts Pyle the most was Joker, whom Pyle looked up to for helping him get his act together, taking extra swings after the other recruits went back to their bunks.
** The French dub changes "Private Snowball" into "Engagé Blanche-Neige" ("Private Snow White", again). "Gomer Pyle"[=/=]"Private Pyle" becomes "Grosse Baleine" ("Fat Whale") and "Engagé Baleine" ("Private Whale"). Animal Mother becomes "Brute Epaisse" ("Dumb Brute").
* EmpathyDollShot: [[spoiler: Subverted. One of the Marines finds an oversized stuffed rabbit lying in the rubble of Hue, and picks it up out of confusion. It's attached to an ''antipersonnel mine''. Boom.]]
* EtTuBrute: During the "blanket party," what really hurts Pyle the most was Joker, whom Pyle looked up to for helping him get his act together, taking extra swings after the other recruits went back to their bunks.
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** The German dub changed Private Pyle's nickname to "Private Paula", Paula," replacing the insult of being an incompetent Marine (as Gomer Pyle was on ''Series/TheAndyGriffithShow'') with one of being a woman. "Private Snowball" became "Private Scheewittchen", Scheewittchen," which means "Private Literature/SnowWhite," keeping the IronicNickname [[{{Woolseyism}} and adding the additional insult of being like a fairy princess]].
** The French dub changes "Private Snowball" into "Engagé Blanche-Neige" ("Private SnowWhite", White" again). "Gomer Pyle"[=/=]"Private Pyle" becomes "Grosse Baleine" ("Fat Whale") and "Engagé Baleine" ("Private Whale"). Animal Mother becomes "Brute Epaisse" ("Dumb Brute").
* EmpathyDollShot: [[spoiler: Subverted. One of the Marines finds an oversized stuffed rabbit lying in the rubble ofHue, Hue and picks it up out of confusion.curiosity. It's attached to an ''antipersonnel mine''. Boom.]]
* EtTuBrute: During the "blanket party," what really hurts Pyle the mostwas is Joker, whom Pyle looked looks up to for helping him get his act together, taking extra swings after the other recruits went go back to their bunks.
** The French dub changes "Private Snowball" into "Engagé Blanche-Neige" ("Private Snow
* EmpathyDollShot: [[spoiler: Subverted. One of the Marines finds an oversized stuffed rabbit lying in the rubble of
* EtTuBrute: During the "blanket party," what really hurts Pyle the most
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* FacingTheBulletsOneLiner: Namely, Hartman staring down the barrel of a loaded M-14 being held by a visibly deranged recruit that had just that day gotten word that he made it through to proper infantry. He may have thought "Private Pyle" wasn't going to shoot at all, or that yelling him down would work as it always had, but either you are [[AxCrazy officially insane - a Section 8]], have a death wish, or [[YouGotGuts have to have a set]] in order to look your potential murderer in the eye and scream in a rage "[[DefiantToTheEnd WHAT IS YOUR MAJOR MALFUNCTION, NUMBNUTS?!]] [[FreudianExcuse DIDN'T MOMMY AND DADDY SHOW YOU ENOUGH ATTENTION WHEN YOU WERE A CHILD?!?!]]"
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* FacingTheBulletsOneLiner: Namely, Hartman staring down the barrel of a loaded M-14 being held by a visibly deranged recruit that had has just that day gotten word that he he's made it through to proper infantry. He may have thought "Private Pyle" wasn't going to shoot at all, or that yelling him down would work as it always had, has, but either you are [[AxCrazy officially insane - a (a Section 8]], 8)]], have a death wish, or [[YouGotGuts have to have a serious set]] in order to look your potential murderer in the eye and scream in a rage "[[DefiantToTheEnd WHAT IS YOUR MAJOR MALFUNCTION, NUMBNUTS?!]] [[FreudianExcuse DIDN'T MOMMY AND DADDY SHOW YOU ENOUGH ATTENTION WHEN YOU WERE A CHILD?!?!]]"
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* TheFilmOfTheBook: Based on the novel, "The Short Timers" by Gustav Hasford.
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* TheFilmOfTheBook: Based on the novel, "The Short Timers" Timers," by Gustav Hasford.
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* FreudianExcuse: Invoked by Gunny Hartman to Leonard/Pyle. [[spoiler:Doubles as last words, as Leonard kills him after.]]
--> '''Hartman''': What is your major malfunction, numbnuts? Didn't mommy and daddy show you enough attention when you were a child?
* GenderedInsult: As explained in DubNameChange, the German version nicknames Leonard Lawrence as "Private Paula" on account of his ineptitude.
* TheGenericGuy: Doc Jay, Donlon and Rock.
--> '''Hartman''': What is your major malfunction, numbnuts? Didn't mommy and daddy show you enough attention when you were a child?
* GenderedInsult: As explained in DubNameChange, the German version nicknames Leonard Lawrence as "Private Paula" on account of his ineptitude.
* TheGenericGuy: Doc Jay, Donlon and Rock.
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* FreudianExcuse: Invoked by Gunny Hartman to Leonard/Pyle. [[spoiler:Doubles as last words, as Leonard kills him immediately after.]]
--> '''Hartman''': What is your major malfunction,numbnuts? numbnuts?! Didn't mommy and daddy show you enough attention when you were a child?
child?!
* GenderedInsult: As explained in DubNameChange, the German version nicknames Leonard Lawrence as "Private Paula" on account of hisineptitude.
ineptitude and weakness.
* TheGenericGuy: Doc Jay,Donlon Donlon, and Rock.
--> '''Hartman''': What is your major malfunction,
* GenderedInsult: As explained in DubNameChange, the German version nicknames Leonard Lawrence as "Private Paula" on account of his
* TheGenericGuy: Doc Jay,
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* GoryDiscretionShot: Averted for the most part, it's a Kubrick film, but played straight with [[spoiler:The Sniper's]] death.
* GraduationForEveryone: Pyle included [[spoiler: though [[DontCelebrateJustYet he does not live a full day longer]].]]
* GraduationForEveryone: Pyle included [[spoiler: though [[DontCelebrateJustYet he does not live a full day longer]].]]
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* GoryDiscretionShot: Averted for the most part, part as it's a Kubrick film, but played straight with [[spoiler:The Sniper's]] [[spoiler:the sniper's]] death.
* GraduationForEveryone: Pyleincluded included, [[spoiler: though [[DontCelebrateJustYet he does not live a full day longer]].]]
* GraduationForEveryone: Pyle
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* HandGun: Joker pulls out his sidearm, a [[CoolGuns/{{Handguns}} M1911]] when confronting the sniper after finding out his M16 is out of ammo. Later uses it to finish her off.
* HappyBirthdayToYou: Hartman orders his recruits to sing the song for Christmas.
* HappyBirthdayToYou: Hartman orders his recruits to sing the song for Christmas.
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* HandGun: Joker pulls out his sidearm, a [[CoolGuns/{{Handguns}} M1911]] M1911]], when confronting the sniper after finding out his M16 has either jammed or is out of ammo. Later Shortly after, he uses it to finish her off.
* HappyBirthdayToYou: Hartmanorders forces his recruits to sing the song to the ghost of Jesus Christ for Christmas.
* HappyBirthdayToYou: Hartman
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* DeepSouth: Invoked by Gunny Hartman when he gives Cowboy his nickname, saying "Only steers and queers come from Texas."[[note]] AND YOU DON'T LOOK LIKE A STEER TO ME, SO THAT KINDA NARROWS IT DOWN! [[/note]]
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* DeepSouth: Invoked by Gunny Hartman when he gives Cowboy his nickname, saying saying, "Only steers and queers come from Texas."[[note]] Texas!"[[note]] AND YOU DON'T LOOK LIKE A STEER TO ME, SO THAT KINDA NARROWS IT DOWN! [[/note]]
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* {{Deconstruction}}: The first half of the Vietnam segment is filmed in a deliberately flashy Hollywood style, with heroic and badass American soldiers taking out hordes of Vietcong with surprising ease. This is explicitly pointed out by a U.S. soldier who says "This is Vietnam: The Movie!" to a cameraman, and later Joker's unit are shown lounging on a bunch of seats pulled out of a cinema. When they "exit" through the cinema door into the real war, the film takes a much more realistic and chilling tone, the soldiers are much less invincible, and the single ColdSniper they're going up against turns out to be [[spoiler:a ChildSoldier]].
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* {{Deconstruction}}: The first half of the Vietnam segment is filmed in a deliberately flashy Hollywood style, with heroic and badass American soldiers taking out hordes of Vietcong with surprising ease. This is explicitly pointed out by a U.S. soldier who says says, "This is Vietnam: The Movie!" to a cameraman, and later Joker's unit are is shown lounging on a bunch of seats pulled out of a cinema. When they "exit" through the cinema door into the real war, the film takes a much more realistic and chilling tone, the soldiers are much less invincible, and the single ColdSniper they're going up against turns out to be [[spoiler:a ChildSoldier]].
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* BreakTheCutie: Private Gomer Pyle gets it worse than the rest of the recruits due to being overweight and mentally slow, most of it at the hands of the original DrillSergeantNasty. The worst of it comes when [[spoiler: the other recruits, pissed off after the entire platoon is punished due to Hartman finding a jelly doughnut in Pyle's foot locker, throw him a blanket party by pinning him to his bunk with a blanket and beating the crap out of him with bars of soap wrapped in bath towels]]. All this eventually leads to [[spoiler:his psychotic breakdown, his murder of Hartman, and his ultimate suicide]].
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* BreakTheCutie: Private Gomer Pyle gets it worse than the rest of the recruits due to being overweight and mentally slow, most of it at the hands of the original DrillSergeantNasty. The worst of it comes when [[spoiler: the other recruits, pissed off after the entire platoon is keeps getting punished due to Hartman finding a jelly doughnut in Pyle's foot locker, screwups, throw him a blanket party by pinning him to his bunk with a blanket and beating the crap out of him with bars of soap wrapped in bath towels]]. All this eventually leads to [[spoiler:his psychotic breakdown, his murder of Hartman, and his ultimate suicide]].
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* CoolAndUnusualPunishment: When Hartman catches Pyle with a stolen jelly donut, he institutes a new rule -- Pyle's screw-ups will draw punishment for everyone in the platoon ''except'' him. First he has to stand there and eat the donut while the other recruits do push-ups. Later, he sits with his cover on backwards and his thumb in his mouth as the others do burpees. [[spoiler:They eventually respond by pinning him to his bunk and beating him with bars of soap).]]
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* CoolAndUnusualPunishment: When Hartman catches Pyle with a stolen jelly donut, he institutes a new rule -- rule: Pyle's screw-ups will draw punishment for everyone in the platoon ''except'' him. First he has to stand there and eat the donut while the other recruits do push-ups. Later, he runs behind the troops during drills with his pants around his ankles and his thumb in his mouth, and later still, he sits with his cover on backwards and his thumb in his mouth as the others do burpees. [[spoiler:They eventually respond by pinning him to his bunk and beating him with bars of soap).]]
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* CoupDeGrace: [[spoiler:Joker gives one to the teenage VC sniper after the rest of the squad gives him an ultimatum -- either he finishes her off, or they leave her to die]].
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* CoupDeGrace: [[spoiler:Joker gives one to the teenage VC sniper after the rest of the squad gives him an ultimatum -- ultimatum: either he finishes her off, or they leave her to die]].
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* CruelMercy: After confiscating a jelly donut from Pyle's footlocker, Hartman comes to the conclusion that punishing Pyle for his failures is accomplishing nothing. Therefore, he will no longer punish Pyle when he fucks up... [[IWillPunishYourFriendForYourFailure the rest of the platoon will be punished instead]], hopefully motivating him to do better.
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* CruelMercy: After confiscating a jelly donut from Pyle's footlocker, Hartman comes to the conclusion that punishing Pyle for his failures is accomplishing nothing. Therefore, he will no longer punish Pyle when he fucks up... [[IWillPunishYourFriendForYourFailure the rest of the platoon will be punished instead]], hopefully either directly motivating him to do better.better, or motivating the platoon to better motivate him to do better. They end up trying to motivate him through some serious ToughLove. [[spoiler:It goes disastrously wrong.]]
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* CutHisHeartOutWithASpoon: Hartman makes threats like: "I will unscrew your head and shit down your neck!" and "I will gouge out your eyeballs and skullfuck you!" and "I will PT you all so hard, your asses will be sucking buttermilk!"
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* CutHisHeartOutWithASpoon: Hartman makes threats like: like, "I will unscrew your head and shit down your neck!" and "I will gouge out your eyeballs and skullfuck you!" and "I will PT you all so hard, your asses will be sucking buttermilk!"
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-->'''Cowboy''': Tough break for Hand Job. He was all set to get shipped out on a medical.\\
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-->'''Cowboy''': Tough break for Hand Job. He was all set to get shipped out on a medical.\\
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* DeadGuyOnDisplay: The Hotel company keeps a dead ''Vietnamese soldier'' resting with them. They are otherwise respectful towards him, as he is considered a WorthyAdversary.
* DeadlyEuphemism: Openly admitted to by Lt. Lockhart when he tells one of the "Stars and Stripes" Marines to substitute the phrase "Search and Destroy" with "Sweep and Clear".
* DeadlyEuphemism: Openly admitted to by Lt. Lockhart when he tells one of the "Stars and Stripes" Marines to substitute the phrase "Search and Destroy" with "Sweep and Clear".
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* DeadGuyOnDisplay: The Hotel company keeps a dead ''Vietnamese soldier'' resting with them. They are otherwise respectful towards toward him, as he is considered a WorthyAdversary.
* DeadlyEuphemism: Openly admitted to by Lt. Lockhart when he tells one of the"Stars and Stripes" ''Stars & Stripes'' Marines to substitute the phrase "Search and Destroy" with "Sweep and Clear".Clear."
* DeadlyEuphemism: Openly admitted to by Lt. Lockhart when he tells one of the
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** [[spoiler: Gunny Hartman]]. More emphasis on this in the book than in the movie. In the book, when he gets shot, before he dies, he says "[[spoiler: Private Pyle, I'm so proud." (He's glad that was finally able to make him a killer, which he had been struggling to do all through boot camp.)]]
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** [[spoiler: Gunny Hartman]]. More emphasis on this in the book than in the movie. In When he gets shot in the book, when he gets shot, before he dies, dies he says says, "[[spoiler: Private Pyle, I'm so proud." (He's glad that he was finally able to make him Pyle a killer, which he had been struggling to do all through boot camp.)]]
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* BittersweetEnding: On one hand, the war ain't over yet and Joker's got a whole lot more hell in store for him; he's in a [[ArcWords world of shit]], but he's not afraid and he's happy to be alive. On the other hand, he's just [[spoiler: shot a mortally wounded ''child soldier'' in the head after she begged him to put her out of her misery, and he's watched his best friend get shot in the back and held him as he died. Even though he states that he is glad to be alive, marching away through the smoke with his comrades and singing [[SoundtrackDissonance the Mickey Mouse Club theme song]], it is apparent that he is a profoundly changed man and will never be the same.]]
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* BittersweetEnding: On one hand, the war ain't over yet and Joker's got a whole lot more hell in store for him; he's in a [[ArcWords world of shit]], but he's not afraid and he's happy to be alive. On the other hand, he's just [[spoiler: shot a mortally wounded ''child soldier'' teenage soldier in the head after she begged him to put her out of her misery, and he's watched his best friend get shot in the back and held him as he died. Even though he states that he is glad to be alive, marching away through the smoke with his comrades and singing [[SoundtrackDissonance the Mickey Mouse Club theme song]], it is apparent that he is a profoundly changed man and will never be the same.]]
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** Joker references actor Creator/JohnWayne during both segments. First in the boot camp segment, in his very first line in the film, when he says out loud and in Wayne's voice, after Gunny Hartman's opening speech, "Is that you, John Wayne? Is this me?". He repeats the line later during the Vietnam segment, while the Marines are being filmed while going into Hue to take the city back from the NVA.
** "A world of shit". Gunny Hartman first tells the recruits during marksmanship training that this is what they will be in if they hesitate in combat. It's referred to at the end of both of segments. At the end of the boot camp segment, Joker, after, [[spoiler: finding the crazy Leonard in the head with his rifle, tell him that if Hartman catches them, they'll "both be in a world of shit" to which Leonard replies, "[[PunctuatedForEmphasis I AM...in a world...of shit.]]"]] At the end of the Vietnam segment, Joker says, during his closing narration, "I am in a world of shit."
** Gunny Hartman said to the recruits when they got their rifles: "You will give your rifle a girl's name! Because this is the only pussy you people are going to get! Your days of finger-banging old Mary Jane Rottencrotch through her purty pink panties are over!" In the closing narration, Joker says: "My thoughts drift back to erect nipple wet dreams about Mary Jane Rottencrotch and the Great Homecoming Fuck Fantasy."
** The RealLife Marine Corps Rifleman's Creed. An abridged version is first said by the recruits in unison as they're lying in bed before lights out. It's later repeated [[spoiler: partially and very loudly by Leonard after he snaps and is in the head with his rifle]].
** MickeyMouse is referred to at the end of both segments. At the end of the boot camp segment, Gunny Hartman yells "What is this Mickey Mouse shit." At the end of the Vietnam segment, the Marines are singing the theme song to ''Series/TheMickeyMouseClub'' as they march away from the burning city of Hue. Also a FreezeFrameBonus: look toward the background of Lt. Lockhart's office at the right time and guess what you'll see? Figurines of Mickey and Minnie Mouse.
** Probably the darkest call back of the whole movie. Joker gets heckled for claiming he's seen combat when the veterans listen to his [[BadassBoast badass boasts]]. Payback calls B.S. on him because he doesn't have the thousand-yard-stare. Much later, in the last moments of the movie, [[spoiler: Joker wills himself to finish off a teenage sniper... and as the tension and shock from pulling the trigger wears off, he's transfixed with a thousand-yard-stare of his own.]]
** "A world of shit". Gunny Hartman first tells the recruits during marksmanship training that this is what they will be in if they hesitate in combat. It's referred to at the end of both of segments. At the end of the boot camp segment, Joker, after, [[spoiler: finding the crazy Leonard in the head with his rifle, tell him that if Hartman catches them, they'll "both be in a world of shit" to which Leonard replies, "[[PunctuatedForEmphasis I AM...in a world...of shit.]]"]] At the end of the Vietnam segment, Joker says, during his closing narration, "I am in a world of shit."
** Gunny Hartman said to the recruits when they got their rifles: "You will give your rifle a girl's name! Because this is the only pussy you people are going to get! Your days of finger-banging old Mary Jane Rottencrotch through her purty pink panties are over!" In the closing narration, Joker says: "My thoughts drift back to erect nipple wet dreams about Mary Jane Rottencrotch and the Great Homecoming Fuck Fantasy."
** The RealLife Marine Corps Rifleman's Creed. An abridged version is first said by the recruits in unison as they're lying in bed before lights out. It's later repeated [[spoiler: partially and very loudly by Leonard after he snaps and is in the head with his rifle]].
** MickeyMouse is referred to at the end of both segments. At the end of the boot camp segment, Gunny Hartman yells "What is this Mickey Mouse shit." At the end of the Vietnam segment, the Marines are singing the theme song to ''Series/TheMickeyMouseClub'' as they march away from the burning city of Hue. Also a FreezeFrameBonus: look toward the background of Lt. Lockhart's office at the right time and guess what you'll see? Figurines of Mickey and Minnie Mouse.
** Probably the darkest call back of the whole movie. Joker gets heckled for claiming he's seen combat when the veterans listen to his [[BadassBoast badass boasts]]. Payback calls B.S. on him because he doesn't have the thousand-yard-stare. Much later, in the last moments of the movie, [[spoiler: Joker wills himself to finish off a teenage sniper... and as the tension and shock from pulling the trigger wears off, he's transfixed with a thousand-yard-stare of his own.]]
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** Joker references actor Creator/JohnWayne during both segments. First in the boot camp segment, in his very first line in the film, when he says out loud and in Wayne's voice, voice after Gunny Hartman's opening speech, "Is that you, John Wayne? Is this me?". me?" He repeats the line later during the Vietnam segment, segment while the Marines are being filmed while going as they go into Hue to take the city back from the NVA.
** "A world ofshit". shit." Gunny Hartman first tells the recruits during marksmanship training that this is what they will be in if they hesitate in combat. It's referred to at the end of both of segments. At the end of the boot camp segment, Joker, after, after [[spoiler: finding the crazy crazed Leonard in the head with his rifle, tell tells him that if Hartman catches them, they'll "both be in a world of shit" shit," to which Leonard replies, "[[PunctuatedForEmphasis I AM...in a world...of shit.]]"]] At the end of the Vietnam segment, Joker says, during his closing narration, "I am in a world of shit."
** Gunny Hartmansaid says to the recruits when they got get their rifles: rifles, "You will give your rifle a girl's name! Because this is the only pussy you people are going to get! Your days of finger-banging old Mary Jane Rottencrotch through her purty pink panties are over!" In the closing narration, Joker says: "My thoughts drift back to erect nipple erect-nipple wet dreams about Mary Jane Rottencrotch and the Great Homecoming Fuck Fantasy."
** The RealLife Marine Corps Rifleman's Creed. An abridged version is first said by the recruits in unison as they're lying in bed before lightsout. It's out, and it's later repeated [[spoiler: partially and very loudly by Leonard [[spoiler:Leonard after he snaps and is in the head with his rifle]].
** MickeyMouse is referred to at the end of both segments. At the end of the boot camp segment, Gunny Hartmanyells yells, "What is this Mickey Mouse shit." shit?!" At the end of the Vietnam segment, the Marines are singing the theme song to ''Series/TheMickeyMouseClub'' as they march away from the burning city of Hue. Also There's also a midpoint FreezeFrameBonus: look toward the background of Lt. Lockhart's office at the right time and guess what you'll see? Figurines of Mickey and Minnie Mouse.
**Probably In probably the darkest call back call-back of the whole movie. movie, Joker gets heckled for claiming he's seen combat when the veterans listen to his [[BadassBoast badass boasts]]. Payback calls B.S. on him because he doesn't have the thousand-yard-stare. Much later, in the last moments of the movie, [[spoiler: Joker wills himself to finish off a teenage sniper... and as the tension and shock from pulling the trigger wears off, he's transfixed with a thousand-yard-stare of his own.]]
** "A world of
** Gunny Hartman
** The RealLife Marine Corps Rifleman's Creed. An abridged version is first said by the recruits in unison as they're lying in bed before lights
** MickeyMouse is referred to at the end of both segments. At the end of the boot camp segment, Gunny Hartman
**
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* CargoShip: In-universe example. Gunny Hartman orders the recruits to give their rifle a girl's name "Because this is the only pussy you people are going to get!" Private Pyle, after he goes insane, seems more than a little doting over his rifle (Charlene, if you were wondering).
* CassandraTruth: After the Hue sniper kills Eightball and Doc Jay, Cowboy tells the squad they need to cut their losses and move out, because this setup is a trap and it's going to get more of them killed if they fall for it. [[spoiler: He's right... and he's the only one subsequently killed.]]
* CassandraTruth: After the Hue sniper kills Eightball and Doc Jay, Cowboy tells the squad they need to cut their losses and move out, because this setup is a trap and it's going to get more of them killed if they fall for it. [[spoiler: He's right... and he's the only one subsequently killed.]]
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* CargoShip: In-universe example. Gunny Hartman orders the recruits to give their rifle a girl's name name, "Because this is the only pussy you people are going to get!" Private Pyle, after he goes insane, seems more than a little doting over his rifle (Charlene, (which he names Charlene, if you were you're wondering).
* CassandraTruth: After the Hue sniper kills Eightball and Doc Jay, Cowboy tells the squad they need to cut their losses and move out, because this setup is a trap and it's going to get more of them killed if they fall for it. [[spoiler: He'sright... right, but the squad doesn't listen and forces him to follow them forward...and he's the only one subsequently killed.]]
* CassandraTruth: After the Hue sniper kills Eightball and Doc Jay, Cowboy tells the squad they need to cut their losses and move out, because this setup is a trap and it's going to get more of them killed if they fall for it. [[spoiler: He's
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* ChildSoldier: [[spoiler:The ColdSniper of Hue is a fourteen year old girl. She gets riddled with bullets and finished off by Joker, leaving him with no sense of triumph or heroism]]
* ChewingTheScenery: ''"[[DissonantSerenity Hiiiiiiii]]... [[SlasherSmile Jooooooookerrrrrrrr]]..."'' The entire scene in the bathroom is full of this, capped off with Pyle at his [[LargeHam hammiest]] executing rifle drills and loudly belting out the Rifleman's Creed.
* ChewingTheScenery: ''"[[DissonantSerenity Hiiiiiiii]]... [[SlasherSmile Jooooooookerrrrrrrr]]..."'' The entire scene in the bathroom is full of this, capped off with Pyle at his [[LargeHam hammiest]] executing rifle drills and loudly belting out the Rifleman's Creed.
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* ChildSoldier: [[spoiler:The ColdSniper of Hue is a fourteen year old girl. She gets riddled with bullets by Rafterman in a surprise sneak attack and finished off by Joker, Joker in a MercyKill, leaving him with no sense of triumph or heroism]]
heroism.]]
* ChewingTheScenery: ''"[[DissonantSerenity Hiiiiiiii]]... [[SlasherSmile Jooooooookerrrrrrrr]]...Joooookerrrrrrrr]]..."'' The entire scene in the bathroom is full of this, capped off with Pyle at his [[LargeHam hammiest]] hammiest]], executing rifle drills and loudly belting out the Rifleman's Creed.
* ChewingTheScenery: ''"[[DissonantSerenity Hiiiiiiii]]...
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'''Door gunner''': Easy. You just don't lead 'em so much.
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'''Door gunner''': Easy. You Ya just don't lead 'em so much.
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* BeingTorturedMakesYouEvil: Or rather [[spoiler:having a blanket party thrown on you makes you evil]].
* BetterToDieThanBeKilled: Pvt. Pyle after murdering Hartmann; He almost certainly realized he'd be court-martialed and executed for his actions, and instead decided to end it all right on the spot with a bullet to the mouth.
* BetterToDieThanBeKilled: Pvt. Pyle after murdering Hartmann; He almost certainly realized he'd be court-martialed and executed for his actions, and instead decided to end it all right on the spot with a bullet to the mouth.
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* BeingTorturedMakesYouEvil: Or rather rather, [[spoiler:having a blanket party thrown on you and being mercilessly abused by an authority figure makes you evil]].
* BetterToDieThanBeKilled: Pvt. Pyle after murderingHartmann; Hartmann. He almost certainly realized he'd realizes he'll be court-martialed and executed for his actions, and so instead decided decides to end it all right on the spot with a bullet to through the mouth.
* BetterToDieThanBeKilled: Pvt. Pyle after murdering
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* BiggerIsBetterInBed: Inverted. A Vietnamese prostitute does not want to have sex with 8-Ball, a black Marine, at first because she assumes he's "too beaucoup." , and thus "no boom-boom with soul brother". 8-Ball has to whip out his "Alabama blacksnake" and show it to her to convince her that it's not "too beaucoup."
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* BiggerIsBetterInBed: Inverted. A Vietnamese prostitute does not want to have sex with 8-Ball, 8-Ball at first, a black Marine, at first because she assumes he's "too beaucoup." , beaucoup" and thus says "no boom-boom with soul brother". brother." 8-Ball has to whip out his "Alabama blacksnake" and show it to her to convince her that it's not "too beaucoup."
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* BittersweetEnding: On the one hand – the war ain't over yet, and Joker's got a whole lot more hell in store for him, he's in a [[ArcWords world of shit]], but he's not afraid and he's happy to be alive. On the other hand – he's just [[spoiler: shot a mortally wounded ''child soldier'' in the head after she begged him to put her out of her misery, and watched his best friend get shot in the back and killed. Even though he states that he is glad to be alive, marching away through the smoke with his comrades and singing [[SoundtrackDissonance the Mickey Mouse Club theme song]], it is apparent that he is a profoundly changed man, and will never be the same.]]
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* BittersweetEnding: On the one hand – hand, the war ain't over yet, yet and Joker's got a whole lot more hell in store for him, him; he's in a [[ArcWords world of shit]], but he's not afraid and he's happy to be alive. On the other hand – hand, he's just [[spoiler: shot a mortally wounded ''child soldier'' in the head after she begged him to put her out of her misery, and he's watched his best friend get shot in the back and killed. held him as he died. Even though he states that he is glad to be alive, marching away through the smoke with his comrades and singing [[SoundtrackDissonance the Mickey Mouse Club theme song]], it is apparent that he is a profoundly changed man, man and will never be the same.]]
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-->'''Joker''': I wanted to see exotic Vietnam... the jewel of Southeast Asia. I wanted to meet interesting and stimulating people of an ancient culture... [[BreadEggsMilkSquick and kill them]]. I wanted to be the first kid on my block [[BloodKnight to get a confirmed kill]]!
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-->'''Joker''': I wanted to see exotic Vietnam... the jewel of Southeast Asia. I wanted to meet interesting and stimulating people of an ancient culture... [[BreadEggsMilkSquick and kill them]]. I wanted to be the first kid on my block [[BloodKnight to get a confirmed kill]]!
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* BlackIsBiggerInBed: "No boom-boom with soul brother". At one point, a hooker initially refuses to sleep with an African-American man because of his so-called "Alabama blacksnake". 8-ball has to graphically debunk it.
* BloodKnight: Joker claims that he joined the Corps to be a killer. However, he's probably being sarcastic, since he's a military journalist, and [[spoiler:when he has to perform a MercyKill, he finds it very hard]]. Straighter examples in Animal Mother and Crazy Earl.
-->'''Crazy Earl:''' I will never forget this day. The day I came to Hue City and fought one million N.V.A. gooks. I love the little Commie bastards, man, I really do. These enemy grunts are as hard as slant-eyed drill instructors. These are great days we're living, bros! We are jolly green giants, walking the earth with guns. These people we wasted here today... are the finest human beings we will ever know. After we rotate back to the world, we're gonna miss not having anyone around that's worth shooting.
* BloodKnight: Joker claims that he joined the Corps to be a killer. However, he's probably being sarcastic, since he's a military journalist, and [[spoiler:when he has to perform a MercyKill, he finds it very hard]]. Straighter examples in Animal Mother and Crazy Earl.
-->'''Crazy Earl:''' I will never forget this day. The day I came to Hue City and fought one million N.V.A. gooks. I love the little Commie bastards, man, I really do. These enemy grunts are as hard as slant-eyed drill instructors. These are great days we're living, bros! We are jolly green giants, walking the earth with guns. These people we wasted here today... are the finest human beings we will ever know. After we rotate back to the world, we're gonna miss not having anyone around that's worth shooting.
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* BlackIsBiggerInBed: "No boom-boom with soul brother". At brother": at one point, a hooker initially refuses to sleep with an African-American man because of his so-called "Alabama blacksnake". blacksnake." 8-ball has to graphically debunk it.
* BloodKnight: Joker claims that he joined the Corps to be a killer. However, he'sprobably being sarcastic, sarcastic since he's a military journalist, and [[spoiler:when he has to perform a MercyKill, he finds it very hard]]. Straighter examples in Animal Mother and Crazy Earl.
-->'''Crazy Earl:''' I will never forget thisday. The day: the day I came to Hue City and fought one million N.V.A. gooks. I love the little Commie bastards, man, I really do. These enemy grunts are as hard as slant-eyed drill instructors. These are great days we're living, bros! We are jolly green giants, walking the earth with guns. These people we wasted here today... are the finest human beings we will ever know. After we rotate back to the world, we're gonna miss not having anyone around that's worth shooting.
* BloodKnight: Joker claims that he joined the Corps to be a killer. However, he's
-->'''Crazy Earl:''' I will never forget this
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* BreakTheCutie: Private Gomer Pyle gets it worse than the rest of the recruits due to being overweight and mentally slow, most of it at the hands of the original DrillSergeantNasty. The worst of it comes when [[spoiler: the other recruits, pissed off after the entire platoon was punished due to Hartman finding a jelly doughnut in Pyle's foot locker, throw him a blanket party by pinning him to his bunk with a blanket and beating the crap out of him with bars of soap wrapped in bath towels]]. All this eventually leads to [[spoiler:his psychotic breakdown, his murder of Hartman and his ultimate suicide]].
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* BreakTheCutie: Private Gomer Pyle gets it worse than the rest of the recruits due to being overweight and mentally slow, most of it at the hands of the original DrillSergeantNasty. The worst of it comes when [[spoiler: the other recruits, pissed off after the entire platoon was is punished due to Hartman finding a jelly doughnut in Pyle's foot locker, throw him a blanket party by pinning him to his bunk with a blanket and beating the crap out of him with bars of soap wrapped in bath towels]]. All this eventually leads to [[spoiler:his psychotic breakdown, his murder of Hartman Hartman, and his ultimate suicide]].
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** In a meeting with his fellow "Stars and Stripes" personnel, Joker and the other Marines are being informed by their CO, Lt. Lockhart, of upcoming events, one of which is a USO visit by actress, Ann-Margret. A few scenes later, after being informed by Lt. Lockhart about the Tet offensive by the NVA and how bad the situation is, Joker, asks, after a few moments of silence, [[MoodWhiplash "Sir, does this mean that Ann-Margret's not coming?"]]
*** Unfortunately for Joker, this quip pisses off the LT enough that he reaches his breaking point and immediately ships Joker off to a combat zone.
*** Unfortunately for Joker, this quip pisses off the LT enough that he reaches his breaking point and immediately ships Joker off to a combat zone.
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** In a meeting with his fellow "Stars and Stripes" ''Stars & Stripes'' personnel, Joker and the other Marines are being informed by their CO, Lt. Lockhart, of upcoming events, one of which is a USO visit by actress, actress Ann-Margret. A few scenes later, after being informed by Lt. Lockhart about the Tet offensive by the NVA and how bad the situation is, Joker, Joker asks, after a few moments of silence, [[MoodWhiplash "Sir, does this mean that Ann-Margret's not coming?"]]
*** Unfortunately for Joker, this quip pisses off theLT Lt. enough that he reaches his breaking point and immediately ships Joker off to a combat zone.
*** Unfortunately for Joker, this quip pisses off the
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* BrokenRecord: "Shoot...me... shoot...me..."
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* BrokenRecord: "Shoot...me... shoot...Shoot...me..."
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* TheAllSolvingHammer: At first Hartman calmly tells [[spoiler: Pyle to place the weapon on the deck and step away]]. When Pyle doesn't comply, Hartman reverts to his default method of persuasion. The fact that Hartman's solution to [[spoiler: a clearly deranged recruit pointing a loaded rifle at him is to insult him]] seems to imply that he had gotten it in his head that he could solve any problem by yelling at it. Partially TruthInTelevision; while this is standard procedure in the military, and while it's taught that nine times out of ten a show of strong force will cause a person to back down, there is a world of difference between a show of force and needlessly insulting and antagonizing a seriously disturbed man with a loaded rifle. Someone having a massive mental breakdown with a loaded rifle is ''not'' what standard procedure is designed for.
** A bit of FridgeBrilliance for those that have been through training and understand the thought process. Hartman's attempts at resolving the situation with gentleness are obviously failing, so he attempted to use the conditioning to immediately follow orders that basic training is meant to instill. Sometimes, thinking can be the worst thing that you can do when your life is at stake, especially when the one giving orders has already likely done all the thinking you'd have done for you.
* AllYourBaseAreBelongToUs: The Marine base at Da Nang comes under attack by the NVA as the Tet Offensive begins. The invasion is easily repelled, but this an exception in the middle of a general offensive all over the country.
** A bit of FridgeBrilliance for those that have been through training and understand the thought process. Hartman's attempts at resolving the situation with gentleness are obviously failing, so he attempted to use the conditioning to immediately follow orders that basic training is meant to instill. Sometimes, thinking can be the worst thing that you can do when your life is at stake, especially when the one giving orders has already likely done all the thinking you'd have done for you.
* AllYourBaseAreBelongToUs: The Marine base at Da Nang comes under attack by the NVA as the Tet Offensive begins. The invasion is easily repelled, but this an exception in the middle of a general offensive all over the country.
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* TheAllSolvingHammer: At first Hartman calmly tells [[spoiler: Pyle to place the weapon on the deck and step away]]. When Pyle doesn't comply, Hartman reverts to his default method of persuasion. The fact that Hartman's solution to [[spoiler: a clearly deranged recruit pointing a loaded rifle at him is to insult him]] seems to imply that he had has gotten it in his head that he could can solve any problem by yelling at it. Partially TruthInTelevision; while this is standard procedure in the military, and while it's taught that nine times out of ten a show of strong force will cause a person to back down, there is a world of difference between a show of force and needlessly insulting and antagonizing a seriously disturbed man with a loaded rifle. Someone having a massive mental breakdown with a loaded rifle is ''not'' what standard procedure is designed for.
** A bit of FridgeBrilliance for those that have been through training and understand the thought process. Hartman's attempts at resolving the situation with gentleness are obviously failing, so heattempted attempts to use the conditioning to immediately follow orders that basic training is meant to instill. Sometimes, thinking can be the worst thing that you can do when your life is at stake, especially when the one giving orders has already likely done all the thinking you'd have done for you.
* AllYourBaseAreBelongToUs: The Marine base at Da Nang comes under attack by the NVA as the Tet Offensive begins. The invasion is easily repelled, but thisan is one exception in the middle of a general offensive all over the country.
** A bit of FridgeBrilliance for those that have been through training and understand the thought process. Hartman's attempts at resolving the situation with gentleness are obviously failing, so he
* AllYourBaseAreBelongToUs: The Marine base at Da Nang comes under attack by the NVA as the Tet Offensive begins. The invasion is easily repelled, but this
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--->'''Joker''': Sir, maybe you should go out on some ops yourself. I'm sure you could find a lot more blood trails and drag marks.\\
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--->'''Joker''': Sir, maybe you should go out on some ops yourself. I'm sure you ''you'' could find a lot more blood trails and drag marks.\\
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** Creator/RLeeErmey, formerly a real-life DrillSergeantNasty, once said in an interview, that while drill instructors frequently struck recruits (something he states was never officially condoned by the Marine Corps), it was done more as a quick attention-getting device rather than something used to humiliate a recruit. Gunnery Sergeant Hartman is also far more verbally abusive in the movie than what is or was permitted in real life, especially when he casually flings racist and homophobic remarks at his men. He once noted that had he done ''anything'' as bad as Hartman and his C.O. found out about it, he would have been court-martialed and convicted in short order.
** In the book, Sergeant Gerheim (as he was known) isn't nearly as vulgar, but calls people into his office or the showers to beat them in private. He encourages other punishments -- some worse -- or orders the other recruits to perform them. Ermey, in an interview, once recalled one of the punishments from the book (the DI nearly drowning Pyle in a toilet other recruits had urinated in) and pointed out that any DI who ever tried something like what Gerheim did would never have been able to command respect among his recruits again.
** In the book, Sergeant Gerheim (as he was known) isn't nearly as vulgar, but calls people into his office or the showers to beat them in private. He encourages other punishments -- some worse -- or orders the other recruits to perform them. Ermey, in an interview, once recalled one of the punishments from the book (the DI nearly drowning Pyle in a toilet other recruits had urinated in) and pointed out that any DI who ever tried something like what Gerheim did would never have been able to command respect among his recruits again.
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** Creator/RLeeErmey, formerly a real-life DrillSergeantNasty, once said in an interview, interview that while drill instructors frequently struck recruits (something he states was never officially condoned by the Marine Corps), it was done more as a quick attention-getting device rather than something used to humiliate a recruit. Gunnery Sergeant Hartman is also far more verbally abusive in the movie than what is or was permitted in real life, especially when he casually flings racist and homophobic remarks at his men. He once noted that had he done ''anything'' as bad as Hartman did and his C.O. found out about it, he would have been court-martialed and convicted in short order.
** In the book, Sergeant Gerheim (ashe the "Hartman" character was known) originally called) isn't nearly as vulgar, but calls people into his office or the showers to beat them in private. He encourages other punishments -- some worse -- or orders the other recruits to perform them. Ermey, in an interview, once recalled one of the punishments from the book (the DI nearly drowning Pyle in a toilet other recruits had urinated in) and pointed out that any DI who ever tried something like what Gerheim did would never have been able to command respect among his recruits again.
** In the book, Sergeant Gerheim (as
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*** In ''The Short-Timers'', the senior drill instructor actually intimidates other recruits to keep quiet about Pyle; the platoon has already lost several other members, and losing Pyle as well will invite unwanted attention from higher in the chain of command.
** Marines saluting officers out in the war zone. This is a big no-no in real life, as it identifies the officers and makes them big, convincing targets for snipers.[[note]]In a different scene in the book, Joker lampshades this: "I have just identified him as an officer to any VC sniper watching"[[/note]] Also in the scene with Joker explaining his "Born to Kill" graffito, the officer is the one who (just barely, but still) initiates the salute: the junior ranking soldier always salutes first, in every branch.
** In real life it would be practically impossible to smuggle a ''single live round'' out of the firing range, never mind enough of them to fill a magazine. When you go to the range, you are given a set number of rounds, and someone will be standing by you to make sure you load and fire all of them. If there's any discrepancy at the end of the session, you can expect to be searched from head to toe until those missing rounds turn up. Same with smuggling a rifle out of the Arms Room; there is strict accountability for every weapon on site, and they are only given out for operations, training or maintenance. But seeing as the most iconic scene in the whole film would never have happened, and the guy who did it [[ChekhovsSkill had also managed to smuggle in a jelly doughnut earlier on]] (which was no mean feat either), this is forgivable.
** Marines saluting officers out in the war zone. This is a big no-no in real life, as it identifies the officers and makes them big, convincing targets for snipers.[[note]]In a different scene in the book, Joker lampshades this: "I have just identified him as an officer to any VC sniper watching"[[/note]] Also in the scene with Joker explaining his "Born to Kill" graffito, the officer is the one who (just barely, but still) initiates the salute: the junior ranking soldier always salutes first, in every branch.
** In real life it would be practically impossible to smuggle a ''single live round'' out of the firing range, never mind enough of them to fill a magazine. When you go to the range, you are given a set number of rounds, and someone will be standing by you to make sure you load and fire all of them. If there's any discrepancy at the end of the session, you can expect to be searched from head to toe until those missing rounds turn up. Same with smuggling a rifle out of the Arms Room; there is strict accountability for every weapon on site, and they are only given out for operations, training or maintenance. But seeing as the most iconic scene in the whole film would never have happened, and the guy who did it [[ChekhovsSkill had also managed to smuggle in a jelly doughnut earlier on]] (which was no mean feat either), this is forgivable.
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*** In ''The Short-Timers'', the senior drill instructor actually intimidates other recruits to keep quiet about Pyle; the Pyle. The platoon has already lost several other members, and losing Pyle as well will invite unwanted attention from higher higher-ups in the chain of command.
** Marines saluting officers out in the war zone. This is a big no-no in real life, as it identifies the officers and makes them big, convincing targets for snipers.[[note]]In a different scene in the book, Joker lampshades this: "I have just identified him as an officer to any VC sniperwatching"[[/note]] watching."[[/note]] Also in the scene with Joker explaining his "Born to Kill" graffito, the officer is the one who (just barely, but still) initiates the salute: the junior ranking soldier always salutes first, in every branch.
** In real life it would be practically impossible to smuggle a ''single live round'' out of the firing range, never mind enough of them to fill a magazine. When you go to the range, you are given a set number of rounds, and someone will be standing by you to make sure you load and fire all of them. If there's any discrepancy at the end of the session, you can expect to be searched from head to toe until those missing rounds turn up. Same with smuggling a rifle out of the Arms Room; there is strict accountability for every weapon on site, and they are only given out for operations,training training, or maintenance. But However, seeing as the most iconic scene in the whole film would never have happened, and the guy who did it [[ChekhovsSkill had also managed to smuggle in a jelly doughnut earlier on]] (which was no mean feat small feat, either), this is forgivable.
** Marines saluting officers out in the war zone. This is a big no-no in real life, as it identifies the officers and makes them big, convincing targets for snipers.[[note]]In a different scene in the book, Joker lampshades this: "I have just identified him as an officer to any VC sniper
** In real life it would be practically impossible to smuggle a ''single live round'' out of the firing range, never mind enough of them to fill a magazine. When you go to the range, you are given a set number of rounds, and someone will be standing by you to make sure you load and fire all of them. If there's any discrepancy at the end of the session, you can expect to be searched from head to toe until those missing rounds turn up. Same with smuggling a rifle out of the Arms Room; there is strict accountability for every weapon on site, and they are only given out for operations,
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* AsianHookerStereotype: This movie is a famous example, arguably the TropeCodifier, with its infamous line "Me so horny. Me love you long time. Me sucky sucky."
* AsianSpeekeeEngrish: Likewise, "Me Love You Long Time."
* AssholeVictim: As much as Sgt. Hartman having to do his job (as mentioned above), it may be hard to feel sorry for him when [[spoiler: he gets killed by Private Pyle]].
* AsianSpeekeeEngrish: Likewise, "Me Love You Long Time."
* AssholeVictim: As much as Sgt. Hartman having to do his job (as mentioned above), it may be hard to feel sorry for him when [[spoiler: he gets killed by Private Pyle]].
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* AsianHookerStereotype: This movie is a famous example, arguably the TropeCodifier, with its infamous line line, "Me so horny. Me love you long time. Me sucky sucky."
* AsianSpeekeeEngrish: Likewise, "MeLove You Long Time.love you long time."
* AssholeVictim: As much as Sgt. Hartmanhaving to do is just doing his job (as mentioned above), it may be hard to feel sorry for him when [[spoiler: he gets killed by Private Pyle]].
* AsianSpeekeeEngrish: Likewise, "Me
* AssholeVictim: As much as Sgt. Hartman
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The film is [[TheFilmOfTheBook based on the semi-autobiographical novel]] ''The Short-Timers'' by former Marine Gustav Hasford, published in 1979. However, the script was co-written by Micheal Herr, who incorporated a large amount of his GonzoJournalism book "Dispatches from the Vietnam War". The result is an odd fusion; the plot is drawn from The Short-Timers, with the first half an extremely faithful adaptation and the second half an amalgamation of events from the second and third stories, while almost all the film's iconic dialog and surreal moments are taken word-for-word from Dispatches.
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The film is [[TheFilmOfTheBook based on the semi-autobiographical novel]] ''The Short-Timers'' by former Marine Gustav Hasford, published in 1979. However, the script was co-written by Micheal Herr, who incorporated a large amount of his GonzoJournalism book "Dispatches from the Vietnam War". The result is an odd fusion; the plot is drawn from The Short-Timers, with the first half an extremely faithful adaptation and the second half an amalgamation of events from the second and third stories, while almost all the film's iconic dialog dialogue and surreal moments are taken word-for-word from Dispatches.
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!!"These are my tropes! There are many like them but these ones are mine!"
* AdaptationAmalgamation: The film is based on the semi-autobiographical novel ''The Short-Timers'' published in 1979 by former Marine Gustav Hasford. However, the script was co-written by Micheal Herr, who incorporated a large amount of his Gonzo Journalism book ''Dispatches from the Vietnam War''. The plot is drawn from ''The Short-Timers'', with the first half an extremely faithful adaptation and the second half an amalgamation of events from the second and third stories, while almost all the film's iconic dialog and surreal moments are taken word-for-word from ''Dispatches''. This led to some friction over who would be given full credits. In the end, it was given to both authors.
* ATeamFiring: Sort of in the sniper scene. When [[spoiler:Eightball]] is shot, the group starts shooting at the two front buildings. Then [[spoiler:Doc Jay]] goes to recover him and gets shot too. Then when Animal Mother reaches them, he realizes that [[spoiler:there's only a lone sniper, far back in a distant building, and that they've wasted bullets shooting at literally nothing.]]. Justified as it's meant as suppression fire.
* AdaptationAmalgamation: The film is based on the semi-autobiographical novel ''The Short-Timers'' published in 1979 by former Marine Gustav Hasford. However, the script was co-written by Micheal Herr, who incorporated a large amount of his Gonzo Journalism book ''Dispatches from the Vietnam War''. The plot is drawn from ''The Short-Timers'', with the first half an extremely faithful adaptation and the second half an amalgamation of events from the second and third stories, while almost all the film's iconic dialog and surreal moments are taken word-for-word from ''Dispatches''. This led to some friction over who would be given full credits. In the end, it was given to both authors.
* ATeamFiring: Sort of in the sniper scene. When [[spoiler:Eightball]] is shot, the group starts shooting at the two front buildings. Then [[spoiler:Doc Jay]] goes to recover him and gets shot too. Then when Animal Mother reaches them, he realizes that [[spoiler:there's only a lone sniper, far back in a distant building, and that they've wasted bullets shooting at literally nothing.]]. Justified as it's meant as suppression fire.
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!!"These are my tropes! There are many like them them, but these ones are mine!"
* AdaptationAmalgamation: The film is based on the semi-autobiographical novel ''The Short-Timers'' published in 1979 by former Marine Gustav Hasford. However, the script was co-written by Micheal Herr, who incorporated a large amount of his Gonzo Journalism book ''Dispatches from the Vietnam War''. The plot is drawn from ''TheShort-Timers'', with Short-Timers'' and a lot of the first half an extremely faithful adaptation and the second half an amalgamation of events from the second and third stories, while almost all the film's iconic dialog and surreal moments are dialogue is taken word-for-word from ''Dispatches''. This led to some friction over who would be given full credits. In the end, it was given to both authors.
* ATeamFiring: Sort of in the sniper scene. When [[spoiler:Eightball]] is shot, the group starts shooting at the two front buildings. Then [[spoiler:Doc Jay]] goes to recover him and getsshot shot, too. Then when When Animal Mother reaches them, he realizes that [[spoiler:there's only a lone sniper, far back in a distant building, and that they've wasted a ''ton'' bullets shooting at literally nothing.]]. Justified as it's meant as suppression fire.
* AdaptationAmalgamation: The film is based on the semi-autobiographical novel ''The Short-Timers'' published in 1979 by former Marine Gustav Hasford. However, the script was co-written by Micheal Herr, who incorporated a large amount of his Gonzo Journalism book ''Dispatches from the Vietnam War''. The plot is drawn from ''The
* ATeamFiring: Sort of in the sniper scene. When [[spoiler:Eightball]] is shot, the group starts shooting at the two front buildings. Then [[spoiler:Doc Jay]] goes to recover him and gets
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* AgonizingStomachWound: A Vietnamese sniper intentionally shoots an American solider in the groin with the intention of drawing the other soldiers in the unit into the open as they try to prevent the wounded soldier from slowly dying.
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* AgonizingStomachWound: A Vietnamese sniper intentionally shoots an American solider in the groin with the intention of drawing the other soldiers in the unit into the open as they try want to prevent the their wounded soldier from slowly dying.
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* HiddenDepths: Pyle, for all his ineptness as a soldier, turns out to be an excellent marksman.
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* HiddenDepths: Pyle, for all his ineptness as a soldier, turns out to be an excellent marksman.
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** ...as is the Door Gunner who shoots up rice paddies and farmers. He turns it UpToEleven.
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** ...as is the Door Gunner who shoots up rice paddies and farmers. He turns it UpToEleven.up to eleven.
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* ChekhovsSkill: He manages to smuggle a jelly doughnut into the squad bay. While it's probably not entirely accurate to say that this would be impossible, it would be very, very hard to do. Later in the movie, he presumably uses the same skill to sneak in [[spoiler:enough live ammo to fill a rifle magazine]].
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* ChekhovsSkill: He Pyle manages to smuggle a jelly doughnut into the squad bay. While it's probably not entirely accurate to say that this would be impossible, it would be very, very hard to do. Later in the movie, he presumably uses the same skill to sneak in [[spoiler:enough live ammo to fill a rifle magazine]].
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* ChekhovsSkill: He manages to smuggle a jelly doughnut into the squad bay. While it's probably not entirely accurate to say that this would be impossible, it would be very, very hard to do. Later in the movie, he presumably uses the same skill to sneak in [[spoiler:enough live ammo to fill a rifle magazine]].
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** In real life it would be practically impossible to smuggle a ''single live round'' out of the firing range, never mind enough of them to fill a magazine. When you go to the range, you are given a set number of rounds, and someone will be standing by you to make sure you load and fire all of them. If there's any discrepancy at the end of the session, you can expect to be searched from head to toe until those missing rounds turn up. Same with smuggling a rifle out of the Arms Room; there is strict accountability for every weapon on site, and they are only given out for operations, training or maintenance. But seeing as the most iconic scene in the whole film would never have happened, this is forgivable.
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** In real life it would be practically impossible to smuggle a ''single live round'' out of the firing range, never mind enough of them to fill a magazine. When you go to the range, you are given a set number of rounds, and someone will be standing by you to make sure you load and fire all of them. If there's any discrepancy at the end of the session, you can expect to be searched from head to toe until those missing rounds turn up. Same with smuggling a rifle out of the Arms Room; there is strict accountability for every weapon on site, and they are only given out for operations, training or maintenance. But seeing as the most iconic scene in the whole film would never have happened, and the guy who did it [[ChekhovsSkill had also managed to smuggle in a jelly doughnut earlier on]] (which was no mean feat either), this is forgivable.
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* ChekhovsSkill: Pvt. Pyle manages to smuggle a jelly doughnut into the squad bay. While it's probably not entirely accurate to say that this would be impossible, it would be very, very hard to do. Later in the movie, he presumably uses the same skill to sneak in [[spoiler:enough live ammo to fill a rifle magazine]].
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* KickTheDog: The [[ObligatoryWarCrimeScene Door Gunner]] is not happy enough killing unarmed civilians, he also goes out of his way to kill their water buffaloes, all of said kills being certified.
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* KickTheDog: The [[ObligatoryWarCrimeScene Door Gunner]] Gunner is not happy enough killing unarmed civilians, he also goes out of his way to kill their water buffaloes, all of said kills being certified.
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* ObligatoryWarCrimeScene: The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S06nIz4scvI door gunner]] for the Americans. The mass grave for the Vietcong.
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* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: The climax of the movie is a display of [[spoiler: very real and in the same very basic sniper tactics: shoot non-fatally one soldier down, then wait for others to try to drag him to safety and shoot ''them''. Then identify the commanding officer and shoot ''him'' to ensue total chaos. On top of that, Cowboy momentarily forgets he's behind a damaged building and starts to give orders, only to be shot and killed by the sniper through a gap in the wall]].
** Private Pyle's whole character arc. In a less dramatic movie, he'd be a comic relief who'd screw things up for himself and the rest of the crew. Instead of that being glossed over he has the whole squad hating him and hazes him for it.
** Private Pyle's whole character arc. In a less dramatic movie, he'd be a comic relief who'd screw things up for himself and the rest of the crew. Instead of that being glossed over he has the whole squad hating him and hazes him for it.
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** Private Pyle's whole character arc. In a less dramatic movie, he'd be a comic relief who'd screw things up for himself and the rest of the crew. Instead of that being glossed over he has the whole squad hating him and hazes him for it.
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* ICallItVera: Enforced by [=GySgt=] Hartman, taken very seriously by Pvt. Pyle.
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* ICallItVera: Enforced by [=GySgt=] Hartman, taken very seriously by Pvt. Pyle. His weapon's name is Charlene.
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->''"My thoughts drift back to erect nipple wet dreams about Mary Jane Rottencrotch and the Great Homecoming Fuck Fantasy. I am so happy that I am alive, in one piece and short. I'm in a world of shit... yes. But I am alive. And I am not afraid."''
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''Full Metal Jacket'' (1987) is the story of UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar as seen through the eyes of a U.S. Marine known to the audience as "Joker".
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''Full Metal Jacket'' (1987) is the story of UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar as seen through the eyes of a U.S. Marine named J.T. Davis, known to the audience as "Joker".
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** Creator/RLeeErmey, formerly a real-life DrillSergeantNasty, once said in an interview, that while drill instructors frequently struck recruits (something he states was never officially condoned by the Marine Corps), it was done more as a quick attention-getting device rather than something used to humiliate a recruit. Gunnery Sergeant Hartman is also far more verbally abusive in the movie than what is or was permitted in real life; he once noted that had he done ''anything'' as bad as Hartman and his C.O. found out about it, he would have been court-martialed and convicted in short order.
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** Creator/RLeeErmey, formerly a real-life DrillSergeantNasty, once said in an interview, that while drill instructors frequently struck recruits (something he states was never officially condoned by the Marine Corps), it was done more as a quick attention-getting device rather than something used to humiliate a recruit. Gunnery Sergeant Hartman is also far more verbally abusive in the movie than what is or was permitted in real life; life, especially when he casually flings racist and homophobic remarks at his men. He once noted that had he done ''anything'' as bad as Hartman and his C.O. found out about it, he would have been court-martialed and convicted in short order.
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** Cowboy after his squad leader is killed in action. He's a shown to be badly suited, as he leads the squad to a wrong place, has to rely of Eightball to ammend his mistake as is ultimately killed for not taking cover.
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** Cowboy after his squad leader is killed in action. He's a shown to be badly suited, suited for command, as he leads the squad to a wrong place, has to rely of Eightball to ammend his mistake as is ultimately killed for not taking cover.
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* YouAreInCommandNow: Cowboy after his squad leader is killed in action. Animal Mother as Cowboy gets killed in action. It is implied Joker will eventually become the squad leader.
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* YouAreInCommandNow: WrongTurnAtAlbuquerque: Cowboy leads the squad in a wrong direction after a control, directly into a sniper.
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** Cowboy after his squad leader is killed in action. He's a shown to be badly suited, as he leads the squad to a wrong place, has to rely of Eightball to ammend his mistake as is ultimately killed for not taking cover.
** Animal Mother as Cowboy gets killed inaction. action.
** It is implied Joker will eventually become the squad leader.
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** Cowboy after his squad leader is killed in action. He's a shown to be badly suited, as he leads the squad to a wrong place, has to rely of Eightball to ammend his mistake as is ultimately killed for not taking cover.
** Animal Mother as Cowboy gets killed in
** It is implied Joker will eventually become the squad leader.
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Joker reloaded in the previous scene and didn't fire again, the M16 jams. Putting it in discussion.
* Irony: Joker's rifle fails when he needs it most, failing to become the instrument of death he was instructed to be.
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** Joker, when he [[spoiler: tries to shoot the VC sniper in the back, only to hear a click, indicating he's out of ammo and letting the sniper know he's there.]]
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** Joker, when he [[spoiler: tries to shoot the VC sniper in the back, only to hear a click, indicating he's out of ammo his rifle is jammed and letting he just let the sniper know he's there.]]
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