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* No matter what, Marinette ''always'' [[EarnYourHappyEnding gets a happy ending]] in Salt fics. Exactly ''how'' happy it is often depends on the writer, with the more extreme variants essentially turning her into a PossessionSue who's loved by everyone...in other words, giving her precisely the sort of life Lila ''claimed'' to have. The irony of this is usually remarked upon.

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* No matter what, Marinette ''always'' [[EarnYourHappyEnding gets a happy ending]] in Salt salt fics. Exactly ''how'' happy it is often depends on the writer, with the more extreme variants essentially turning her into a PossessionSue who's loved by everyone...in other words, giving her precisely the sort of life Lila ''claimed'' to have. The irony of this is usually remarked upon.


* No matter what, Marinette ''always'' [[EarnYourHappyEnding gets a happy ending]] in Salt fics. Exactly ''how'' happy it is often depends on the writer, with the more extreme variants essentially turning her into a PossessionSue who's loved by everyone. In other words, giving her precisely the sort of life Lila ''claimed'' to have. The irony of this is usually remarked upon.

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* No matter what, Marinette ''always'' [[EarnYourHappyEnding gets a happy ending]] in Salt fics. Exactly ''how'' happy it is often depends on the writer, with the more extreme variants essentially turning her into a PossessionSue who's loved by everyone. In everyone...in other words, giving her precisely the sort of life Lila ''claimed'' to have. The irony of this is usually remarked upon.


** Alternately, an allied Adrien and Marinette will decide they're BetterAsFriends, with Adrien [[PairTheSpares hooking up]] with Kagami, Luka, or someone else.

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** Alternately, Often, the lack of salt towards Adrien will be more than made up for with salt towards [[AbusiveParents his father]], with several pro-Adrien plots involving him rebelling against his dad's strict parenting in some form.
** If the author still wants Marinette to hook up with someone else, then
an allied Adrien and Marinette will decide that they're BetterAsFriends, with Adrien [[PairTheSpares hooking up]] with Kagami, Luka, or someone else.


** Along similar lines, College Francoise Dupont can have a reputation as 'the akuma school', which naturally tends to crop up in stories where Marinette has transferred out.

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** Along similar lines, College Francoise Dupont can have a reputation as 'the "the akuma school', school", which naturally tends to crop up in stories where Marinette has transferred out.


** Lila may take advantage of this to ingratiate herself further with Alya by claiming that she has fought with Ladybug about this; that she disagreed with her and sides with the Ladyblog over [[CelebrityLie her supposed friend]].

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** Lila may take advantage of this to ingratiate herself further with Alya by claiming that she has fought with Ladybug about this; that she disagreed with her and sides with the Ladyblog over [[CelebrityLie her supposed friend]]. This can have the added benefit of giving her a ready-made excuse if Ladybug declares they were never friends.



** Some stories have her outright [[AdultFear abandoning her younger sisters]] to rush off and get her precious footage, or even [[CreateYourOwnVillain deliberately attempting to upset someone enough to get them akumatized]].

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** Some stories have her outright [[AdultFear abandoning her younger sisters]] to rush off and get her precious footage, or even [[CreateYourOwnVillain deliberately attempting to upset someone enough to get them akumatized]].akumatized]] so that she can be first on the scene.



** Should she learn that Marinette is Ladybug, one of the first lines out of her mouth is almost always a demand to know why she never told her, complaining about her efforts to keep her in the dark.

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** Should she learn that Marinette is Ladybug, one of the first lines out of her mouth is almost always a demand to know why she never told her, complaining about her efforts to keep her in the dark. Note that this can be combined with her revealing said identity to the world, with Alya failing to understand that her own actions effectively answer that question. Marinette has to [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech spell it out for her]].


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** Fear of Lila being akumatized is another frequent excuse. He may also express some concern about her victims getting akumatized if they learn the AwfulTruth; however, that hinges on him considering their feelings in the first place, which isn't always the case. Either way, he [[DidntThinkThisThrough fails to factor in]] how much worse they're likely to feel the longer things go on before her exposure.

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** Fear of Lila being akumatized is another frequent excuse. He may also express some concern about her victims getting akumatized if they learn the AwfulTruth; however, that hinges on him considering their feelings in the first place, which isn't always the case. Either way, he [[DidntThinkThisThrough fails to factor in]] how much worse ''worse'' they're likely to feel the longer things go on before her exposure.



* His desire to avoid exposing Lila is commonly combined with and compared to his defending Chloé, pointing out how in both cases, he seems keen to ignore the harm they have done/are doing and blame the ''victims'' instead.

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* His desire to avoid exposing Lila is commonly combined with and compared to his defending Chloé, pointing out how in both cases, he seems keen to ignore the harm they have done/are doing and blame the ''victims'' instead.instead, putting the onus on ''them'' to make amends with their abusers.
* Much like Alya, his words to Marinette near the end of "Chameleon" are often subject to IronicEcho, as it's made clear that he's ''not'' actually standing with or supporting her, and his words of support were effectively meaningless.
** This is particularly common in fics where Marinette gets akumatized, with her throwing his words back in his face -- with this doubling as an InternalReveal to any classmates present.


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** Following the events of "Feast", [[spoiler:the Guardians from the restored Miraculous Temple]] serve as a potential WildCard. They may prove a valuable source of outside aid, or haughtily look down upon her and her allies. Or split the difference, judging ''her'' to be worthy, but disliking Chat Noir and/or Master Fu.


** Alya tends to be [[BerserkButton especially upset]] by this. If she's not hurling accusations and abuse at Marinette, or sniping about how they're both awful people, she goes after Chloé for ''daring'' to get anywhere near her "bestie". Occasionally both reactions will crop up in the same story, with the "Don't get near my bestie" part either cropping up first, or coming up after Lila is exposed and Alya's attempting to [[StatusQuoIsGod reset the status quo]] to how things were before.



* A common justification that crops up whenever Alya or one of Marinette's former friends points out her past as an AlphaBitch is that Marinette was ''used'' to dealing with her attitude. They, on the other hand, were supposed to be trustworthy, only to [[EtTuBrute stab her in the back]] once Lila returned. Chloé also frequently counters by noting that she's gotten better, whereas they have gotten worse/show no signs of wanting to change or atone for their own bad behavior.

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* A common justification that crops up whenever Alya or one of Marinette's former friends points out her past as an AlphaBitch is that Marinette was ''used'' to dealing with her attitude. They, ''They'', on the other hand, were supposed to be trustworthy, only to [[EtTuBrute stab her in the back]] once Lila returned. Chloé also frequently counters by noting that she's gotten better, whereas they have gotten worse/show no signs of wanting to change or atone for their own bad behavior.


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** Along similar lines, College Francoise Dupont can have a reputation as 'the akuma school', which naturally tends to crop up in stories where Marinette has transferred out.

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** On the "related to someone famous" route, some writers like the idea of revealing that Marinette is really someone else's daughter, either because her parents adopted her or Sabine had her before marrying Tom. Her blue eyes are usually used as evidence towards this, as no one else in her family has them.


* If he hears Chat Noir being criticized, Adrien will typically speak up to defend his alter ego, insisting that he was in the right. Rather than convincing anyone, he tends to [[DiggingYourselfDeeper dig himself deeper]] in the process, as others are generally less than impressed by his arguments. Along with being shocked (and disgusted) that he would find it defensible in the first place.

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* If he hears Chat Noir being criticized, Adrien will typically speak up to defend his alter ego, insisting that he was in the right. Rather than convincing anyone, he tends to [[DiggingYourselfDeeper dig himself deeper]] in the process, as others are generally less than impressed by his arguments. Along with being arguments and shocked (and disgusted) that he would find it defensible what Chat does defendable in the first place.


** Out of all the classmates, Nino is the most likely to have a HeelRealization and return to Marinette's side, apologizing profusely for his mistake and accepting that it will take time for her to earn back her trust. This also typically involves him breaking up with Alya.

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** Out of all the classmates, Nino is the most likely to have a HeelRealization and return to Marinette's side, apologizing profusely for his mistake and accepting that it will take time for her him to earn back her trust. This also typically involves him breaking up with Alya.



*** Juleka is particularly prone to being caught in the middle. She may quietly serve as a 'girl on the inside', keeping Marinette and Luka abreast of what Lila, Alya and the rest of their posse are plotting, take a stand against the bullies (often alongside Rose), or go along with it all, much to her brother's [[DisappointedInYou deep disappointment]].

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*** Juleka is particularly prone to being caught in the middle. She may quietly serve as a 'girl "girl on the inside', inside", keeping Marinette and Luka abreast of what Lila, Alya and the rest of their posse are plotting, take a stand against the bullies (often alongside Rose), or go along with it all, much to her brother's [[DisappointedInYou deep disappointment]].


* Chat's tendency to joke around and not take akuma attacks quite as seriously as his partner does tends to be cast into a harsher light as well, showing that he ''expects'' Ladybug to pick up his slack and save the day.
** The amount of times that he [[HeroicSacrifice sacrifices himself]] may be [[DeconstructionFic deconstructed]]. Rather than treated as always necessary or "romantic", it can be pointed out that some of said sacrifices [[CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot could have been avoided]] or are otherwise [[SenselessSacrifice senseless]], placing even ''more'' pressure upon Ladybug to win without her partner as backup. It's also often highlighted that seeing her partner ''die'', temporarily or not, is likely to be quite traumatic... all the more so with the knowledge that if she doesn't win/can't use her WorldHealingWave, he and everyone else will be [[KilledOffForReal gone for good]].
** Chat frequently treats the ''existence'' of her WorldHealingWave as a way to excuse his joking around and focus on flirting over fighting. After all, what does it matter if he makes a few missteps here or there if Ladybug's always going to carry the day and restore everything back to normal with a swarm of magical ladybugs? The notion that this only restores the ''physical'' damage and doesn't erase the memory or other consequences of his actions is generally lost upon him until it's too late.
* If he hears Chat Noir being criticized, Adrien will typically speak up to defend his alter ego, insisting that he was in the right. Rather than convincing anyone, he tends to [[DiggingYourselfDeeper dig himself deeper]] in the process, as others are generally less than impressed by his arguments. Along with being shocked (and disgusted) that he would find it defensible in the first place.



* Chat's tendency to joke around and not take akuma attacks quite as seriously as his partner does tends to be cast into a harsher light as well, showing that he ''expects'' Ladybug to pick up his slack and save the day.
** The amount of times that he [[HeroicSacrifice sacrifices himself]] may be [[DeconstructionFic deconstructed]]. Rather than treated as always necessary or "romantic", it can be pointed out that some of said sacrifices [[CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot could have been avoided]] or are otherwise [[SenselessSacrifice senseless]], placing even ''more'' pressure upon Ladybug to win without her partner as backup. It's also often highlighted that seeing her partner ''die'', temporarily or not, is likely to be quite traumatic... all the more so with the knowledge that if she doesn't win/can't use her WorldHealingWave, he and everyone else will be [[KilledOffForReal gone for good]].
** Chat frequently treats the ''existence'' of her WorldHealingWave as a way to excuse his joking around and focus on flirting over fighting. After all, what does it matter if he makes a few missteps here or there if Ladybug's always going to carry the day and restore everything back to normal with a swarm of magical ladybugs? The notion that this only restores the ''physical'' damage and doesn't erase the memory or other consequences of his actions is generally lost upon him until it's too late.


** Another option is to have a new character, either an OC or a crossover character, come in and help fight against Lila (romance with Marinette optional). The ''Fanfic/MaribatAU'' is a well-known example of the latter variant.



** Nino is the most likely of the main characters to have an eventual HeelRealization and go back to Marinette's side, which usually ends with him breaking up with Alya.
** Kitty Section may or may not be saved by association with Luka. If not, Lila typically convinces them to kick Luka out of the group, claiming that it's strange for a guy his age to associate with teenagers (despite one of the other members being his own sister), either to attempt to set herself up as their newest member, or simply because she can. Should Luka get booted, expect him to find success as a solo artist while Kitty Section struggles.
** Sabine and Tom may be depicted as GoodParents who support and trust Marinette... or, in angstier fare, more flawed and less helpful. They may be completely taken in by Lila, refusing to believe their own daughter and handing down unfair punishments, even ''disowning'' their daughter -- which usually leads to someone else stepping in to become a superior parental figure in their stead.
** Master Fu is in a similar position. While he's often a source of guidance and advice, some stories have him prove [[AdultsAreUseless less than helpful]], failing to recognize how he's adding to the stress and responsibility being piled on Marinette's shoulders. This may even entail him taking Chat's side, showing a sexist streak towards Ladybug and advising her to cater to her partner's whims. Such stories typically have him get stripped of his Guardian role by Tikki, Plagg, and/or the other kwamis, with Marinette or another ally taking over that duty.


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** Another option is to have a new character, either an OC or a {{Crossover}} character, come in and help fight against Lila (romance with Marinette optional). The ''Fanfic/MaribatAU'' is a well-known example of the latter variant.
* Several characters also have a split chance of being on either side, DependingOnTheAuthor's preferences:
** Out of all the classmates, Nino is the most likely to have a HeelRealization and return to Marinette's side, apologizing profusely for his mistake and accepting that it will take time for her to earn back her trust. This also typically involves him breaking up with Alya.
** Kitty Section may or may not be saved by association with Luka. If not, Lila typically convinces them to kick Luka out of the group, claiming that it's strange for a guy his age to associate with teenagers (despite one of the other members being his own sister). Should he get booted, expect him to find success as a solo artist while Kitty Section struggles or breaks up.
*** Juleka is particularly prone to being caught in the middle. She may quietly serve as a 'girl on the inside', keeping Marinette and Luka abreast of what Lila, Alya and the rest of their posse are plotting, take a stand against the bullies (often alongside Rose), or go along with it all, much to her brother's [[DisappointedInYou deep disappointment]].
** Sabine and Tom may be depicted as GoodParents who support and trust Marinette... or, in angstier fare, inattentive and unhelpful. They may be completely taken in by Lila, or believe Mme. Bustier's biased accounts, refusing to believe their own daughter when she tells them the truth about what's going on and handing down unfair punishments. This can even involve ''disowning'' her -- which usually opens the door for somebody else stepping in to become a superior parental figure in their place.
** Master Fu is in a similar position. While he's often depicted as a source of guidance and advice, some stories have him prove [[AdultsAreUseless less than helpful]], holding Marinette to impossibly high standards while piling on the responsibilities and stress. He may take Chat's side in Chat Salt, showing a sexist streak and advising her to cater to her partner's whims. Such stories typically see him stripped of his Guardian role by Tikki, Plagg, and/or the other kwamis, with Marinette or another ally taking over that duty.

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** Some stories give her a rather unusual ally in Gabriel Agreste. This is typically justified by him being sincerely impressed by her talent and creativity, as well as having [[EverybodyHasStandards personal standards]].
** Along the same lines, some stories have her developing a rapport with ''Hawkmoth'', using the akumatizing butterflies as an opportunity to vent. Suffice to say, in such stories, [[spoiler:Lila's secret alliance with Hawkmoth either doesn't last long or never comes about at all]].


** If Adrien is not [[SelectiveObliviousness seemingly oblivious]] to how Marinette is being singled out, he may [[UsefulNotes/VictimBlaming tell her that it's her own fault]]: that Lila's lies weren't hurting anyone before, and that she ''deserves'' to be hurt for persisting in trying to expose her.

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** If Adrien is not [[SelectiveObliviousness seemingly oblivious]] to how Marinette is being singled out, he may [[UsefulNotes/VictimBlaming tell her that it's her own fault]]: that Lila's lies weren't hurting anyone before, and that she ''deserves'' to be hurt for persisting in trying to expose her. In the more extreme cases, he'll even join his classmates in harassing her to treat Lila better, despite knowing the truth.



** He may be presented as an ExtremeDoormat, with this being blamed on his strict upbringing. Again, whether or not this ''excuses'' him is up to the author's preference.



* His desire to avoid exposing Lila is commonly combined with his defending Chloé, pointing out how in both cases, he seems keen to ignore the harm they have done/are doing and blame the ''victims'' instead.

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** Plagg also commonly complains about having to try and be "the responsible one" in these sort of scenarios.


** This betrayal tends to happen in one of two fashions: Chat pulled a FaceHeelTurn and joined forces with Hawkmoth, or he backstabs her immediately ''after'' they've defeated Hawkmoth, ripping any hope of peace right out of her hands.

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** This betrayal tends to happen in one of two fashions: Chat pulled pulls a FaceHeelTurn and joined joins forces with Hawkmoth, or he backstabs her immediately ''after'' they've defeated Hawkmoth, ripping any hope of peace right out of her hands.

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