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* Comments: The best fanfic this troper has ever read, and one of his favorite novels ''period'', this ambitious, multi-novel, DoorStopper fic is miles better than the official novels as far as I'm concerned. One of the great classics of the ROC in the early 2000's, this [[SugarWiki/NeedsMoreLove tragically underrated]] masterpiece was one of the first fics to make in-depth explorations of the oft-used "noble vermin" theme that is so common in the Redwall fan community, and it does so in a truly brilliant way. But that's far from the only reason to read it; the story constantly forces the reader to re-evaluate the characters and conflicts in it, making you unsure who's side you're supposed to be on, which characters feel sympathetic and who's really good and evil. No-one illustrates this better than the mysterious badger for which the saga is named: he's a [[WellIntentionedExtremist well-intentioned]] crusader who has done many good things for the world, but nevertheless uses [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans very questionable methods]] to attain them, never making you sure if he's a hero or villain. Sadly, the saga isn't finished; after The Shrew War finished publication in early 2004, Highwing announced that he would complete it at a later date, but due to real-life issues and the declining popularity of the Redwall books and the ROC never got around to do it, ending TSW on a massive cliffhanger. Now however, he's started posting it on Fanfiction.net again, and if the saga gets more attention and renewed popularity, that would be the deciding factor in reviving it for a third novel. In short, this is a must-read for any Redwall fan, and for anyone who enjoys [[UsefulNotes/FurryFandom furry]] fiction or just well-written fan fiction in general.

* These have got to be some of the best fanfictions I've ever read. Warrior4 manages to [[spoiler: resurrect Rose]] without making it feel like an AssPull in the process. A lot of thought went into this break from canon, and it actually feels very believable. The story features dozens of familiar characters, from both ''Mossflower'' and ''Martin the Warrior'', and manages not to [[CharacterDerailment derail any of them]]. There a number of wonderfully crafted original characters, who all get a good amount of CharacterDevelopment, and a few well-placed {{Shout Out}}s. In addition, [[spoiler: Rose and]] Columbine manage to subvert the classic DamselInDistress situation, by aiding their own rescue from the inside. Warrior4 also manages to capture some of Brian Jacques' trademark feel with a fair amount of well-written poems and songs. And finally, to top it off, the main antagonists are some of the best {{Anti Villain}}s I've ever read. [[SugarWiki/GushingAboutShowsYouLike Forgive my gushing]], but this is seriously a must-read for any Redwall fan.

* Featuring an intriguing (female!) AntiHero, an equally intriguing AntiVillain in the part of TheDragon to Longclaws, moral complexities, a detailed investigation of the workings of a vermin horde, and some nice battles, this is a beautiful take on the Redwall canon. Be warned, however, that it is in some ways a mature {DeconstructionFic of the Redwall epic and is targeted several years older than the series itself, meaning BlackAndGreyMorality and rape (not of Riala) make appearances, becoming NightmareFuel in numerous places. However, it's overall beautifully told. (Also the source of a couple of [[WebOriginal/ProtectorsOfThePlotContinuum PPC agents]], incidentally; some of the few recruited from goodfic.)

** The Urthblood Saga is definitely an above-average fic. It has several strong points: (a) Great characterization, and many likeable characters. Significant CharacterDevelopment even for relatively minor ones. (b) Grand and overarching vision. Perhaps the only Redwall fic that actually tries to introduce major changes to the verse in a believable and gradual way, instead of postulating significant differences as its premise. (c) Highwing has writing style comparable to that of a professional author. Unfortunately, it is not without major flaws as well (a) Waaaay too wordy and slow-moving; would benefit enormously from mercyless editing. Every part of the saga has noticeably less actual plot happening than an average Redwall novel, while being approximately 3-4 times longer. Add KudzuPlot being in effect, and you'll end with the real conflict of the story not even being set up yet after enough pages for an entire fantasy saga or two. (b) Urthblood is a VillainSue (or GodModeSue, if you believe that he didn't go off the deep end yet). Took note how long this fic is? In all this time he has yet to be meaningfully challenged. Only once he suffers something that can be considered a serious setback, and that because he was clearly holding back his true power. But this pales before the fact that the only other characters who have any sort of real plot agency are straightforward villains who are clearly designated to dance in Urthblood's palm. Everyone else has yet to do anything proactive beyond minor subplot conflicts. Considering the above-mentioned sheer length of the fic, this is... problematic. (c) 95% of inventions appearing in the saga, as depicted are either straight-up impossible, or can't be made without an advanced industrial society already in place. Depicted LensmanArmsRace is unbelievable in general. Logistics is just one step from being ignored entirely. A serious sin for a fic that clearly strives to be gritty and "realistic".

* These have got to be some of the best fanfictions I've ever read. Warrior4 manages to [[spoiler: resurrect Rose]] without making it feel like an AssPull in the process. A lot of thought went into this break from canon, and it actually feels very believable. The story features dozens of familiar characters, from both ''Mossflower'' and ''Martin the Warrior'', and manages not to [[CharacterDerailment derail any of them]]. There a number of wonderfully crafted original characters, who all get a good amount of CharacterDevelopment, and a few well-placed {{Shout Out}}s. In addition, [[spoiler: Rose and]] Columbine manage to subvert the classic DamselInDistress situation, by aiding their own rescue from the inside. Warrior4 also manages to capture some of Brian Jacques' trademark feel with a fair amount of well-written poems and songs. And finally, to top it off, the main antagonists are some of the best {{Anti Villain}}s I've ever read. [[GushingAboutShowsYouLike Forgive my gushing]], but this is seriously a must-read for any Redwall fan.

** And ''emphaticaly'' recommended by [=MrMous=] as well.

* Synopsis: What if Veil had lived? An interesting take on Veil in general, not just his life, given that TK made it continue. It is an in depth look a Veil's motives and personality, that helps to make him look brighter on the grey scale.

* Reccomemnded by Tropers/ScrewySqrl
* Synopsis: Nearly 500 years after Matthias the Warrior drive off Cluny, the realm of Mossflower begins to open up to the wider world, as new ideas, nations, and technology begin to alter the status quo that has held sway for countless seasons. The new arrival of "smokepowder" and greatly improved sailing ships createsa new dynamic between woodlanders and vermin.

* These have got to be some of the best fanfictions I've ever read. Warrior4 manages to [[spoiler: resurrect Rose]] without making it feel like an AssPull in the process. A lot of thought went into this break from canon, and it actually feels very believable. The story features dozens of familiar characters, from both ''Mossflower'' and ''Martin the Warrior'', and manages not to [[CharacterDerailment derail any of them]]. There a number of wonderfully crafted original characters, who all get a good amount of CharacterDevelopment, and a few well-placed {{Shout Out}}s. In addition, [[spoiler: Rose and]] Columbine manage to subvert the classic DamselInDistress situation, by aiding their own rescue from the inside. Warrior4 also manages to capture some of Brian Jacques' trademark feel with a fair amount of well written poems and songs. And finally, to top it off, the main antagonists are some of the best {{Anti Villain}}s I've ever read. [[GushingAboutShowsYouLike Forgive my gushing]], but this is seriously a must-read for any Redwall fan.

* [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3225879/1/Seven_Seasons_Gone Seven Seasons Gone]], by Clouded Horizon.
** Recommended by theLibrarian

** Quite possibly one of the best fics this troper has ever read. Good description, the angst and drama works well without [[{{Wangst}} becoming too much,]] and the characters have changed so much in the time between the story starts and the end of ''Marlfox'' that you'd hardly recognize them. Unfortunately, the author [[DeadFic hasn't updated it in quite some time]]. It is at present at a cliffhanger when Dann has seen Song napping out in the woods and is at the moment in the hands of the BigBad, being tortured, apparently through magic. Still quite good, regardless.

* [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5542488/1/Cullin_of_the_Fold Cullin' of the Fold]], by Laburnum Steelfang

** Seriously one of my favourite fics out there. Perfectly believable, there's some good comedy (such as the interactions between the vermin gang), the rant by Eyeshine about how [[EvenEvilHasStandards vermin]] ''[[EvenEvilHasStandards do]]'' [[EvenEvilHasStandards have some standards]] is quite good... really, there's not much to dislike. Especially as it's a Mary Sue parody that also parodies Twilight.

* [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2164058/1/Eight_Words_The_Story_of_Veil Eight Words: The Story of Veil]] by TaheenKiller19

* [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6489219/1/Dissonance Dissonance]], by Les Rallizes Denudes

* [[http://www.rovl.org/vi/?p=display&e=8482 It Makes Me Happy That I'm Not Them]], by Miles S Mistoffelees

** Sheer creepy awesome. As well as Keinruf, we encounter a few familiar faces; Swartt's IronicHell is both amusing and profoundly eerie. Plus it's heavily influenced by ''Webcomic/{{Jack|DavidHopkins}}'' and has a funny ShoutOut to ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' with the Death of Rats. It actually got this troper musing on possible Ironic Hells for the other BigBad characters; for Ferahgo and Klitch, I'm voting for a small room containing nothing but the two of them.

* ''Fanfic/TheUrthbloodSaga'', by Highwing
** [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6788438/1/The_Crimson_Badger_Book_I_The_Warlord Part I: The Crimson Badger]]
** [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/7242385/1/The_Shrew_War_Book_I_A_Fire_in_the_Night_Sky Part II: The Shrew War]]
** [[http://www.fanfiction.net/u/76153/Highwing A variety of related side stories can be found on Highwing's profile.]]

* ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9788380/1/Redwall-Revolution Redwall:Revolution]]'' by TLhikan

* [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3817978/1/A_Mask_and_a_Song A Mask And A Song]] and [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3868656/1/Winters_Flowers Winter's Flowers]] by warrior4

** These have got to be some of the best fanfictions I've ever read. Warrior4 manages to [[spoiler: resurrect Rose]] without making it feel like an AssPull in the process. A lot of thought went into this break from canon, and it actually feels very believable. The story features dozens of familiar characters, from both ''Mossflower'' and ''Martin the Warrior'', and manages not to [[CharacterDerailment derail any of them]]. There a number of wonderfully crafted original characters, who all get a good amount of CharacterDevelopment, and a few well-placed {{Shout Out}}s. In addition, [[spoiler: Rose and]] Columbine manage to subvert the classic DamselInDistress situation, by aiding their own rescue from the inside. Warrior4 also manages to capture some of Brian Jacques' trademark feel with a fair amount of well written poems and songs. And finally, to top it off, the main antagonists are some of the best {{Anti Villain}}s I've ever read. [[GushingAboutShowsYouLike Forgive my gushing]], but this is seriously a must-read for any Redwall fan.

* '''Survival Games'''

* [[http://redwall.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Fan_Fiction Fan fic area on The Redwall Wiki]]
** Recommended by Cosmiconvention.

* [[http://www.fanfiction.net/u/342558/Laburnum_Steelfang Laburnum Steelfang]]
** Recommended by @/{{Zadia}}
** ''Comments'': Laburnum is a brilliant author. Her fics are quite often dark, but they also tend to have a lot of humour in them.

* Creator/UltamiteNineball
** Recommended by @/chelonianmobile
** ''Comments'': Recommending for [[SoBadItsGood entirely the wrong reasons]], but they're a must-see.

* [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/1965410/1/Vengeance_Quest Vengeance Quest]] by Sounasha
** Recommended by @/ThinksTooMuch

** Featuring an intriguing (female!) AntiHero, an equally intriguing AntiVillain in the part of TheDragon to Longclaws, moral complexities, a detailed investigation of the workings of a vermin horde, and some nice battles, this is a beautiful take on the Redwall canon. Be warned, however, that it is in some ways a mature {DeconstructionFic of the Redwall epic and is targeted several years older than the series itself, meaning BlackAndGreyMorality and rape (not of Riala) make appearances, becoming NightmareFuel in numerous places. However, it's overall beautifully told. (Also the source of a couple of [[WebOriginal/ProtectorsOfThePlotContinuum PPC agents]], incidentally; some of the few recruited from goodfic.)

** Featuring an intriguing (female!) AntiHero, an equally intriguing AntiVillain in the part of TheDragon to Longclaws, moral complexities, a detailed investigation of the workings of a vermin horde, and some nice battles, this is a beautiful take on the Redwall canon. Be warned, however, that it is in some ways a mature {DeconstructionFic of the Redwall epic and is targeted several years older than the series itself, meaning BlackAndGreyMorality and rape (not of Riala) make appearances, becoming NightmareFuel in numerous places. However, it's overall beautifully told. (Also the source of a couple of [[ProtectorsOfThePlotContinuum PPC agents]], incidentally; some of the few recruited from goodfic.)

* [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6788438/1/The_Crimson_Badger_Book_I_The_Warlord Part I: The Crimson Badger]]
* [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/7242385/1/The_Shrew_War_Book_I_A_Fire_in_the_Night_Sky Part II: The Shrew War]]
* [[http://www.fanfiction.net/u/76153/Highwing A variety of related side stories can be found on Highwing's profile.]]
* Recommended by Samadhir

** This fic is possibly the best I have ever read. I agree that are some logistics flaws, but it is exceptionally well-written. A must-read.

* Comments: The best fanfic this troper has ever read, and one of his favorite novels ''period'', this ambitious, multi-novel, DoorStopper fic is miles better than the official novels as far as I'm concerned. One of the great classics of the ROC in the early 2000's, this [[SugarWiki/NeedsMoreLove tragically underrated]] masterpiece was one of the first fics to make in-depth explorations of the oft-used "noble vermin" theme that is so common in the Redwall fan community, and it does so in a truly brilliant way. But that's far from the only reason to read it; the story constantly forces the reader to re-evaluate the characters and conflicts in it, making you unsure who's side you're supposed to be on, which characters feel sympathetic and who's really good and evil. No-one illustrates this better than the mysterious badger for which the saga is named: he's a [[WellIntentionedExtremist well-intentioned]] crusader who has done many good things for the world, but nevertheless uses [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans very questionable methods]] to attain them, never making you sure if he's a hero or villain. Sadly, the saga isn't finished; after The Shrew War finished publication in early 2004, Highwing announced that he would complete it at a later date, but due to real-life issues and the declining popularity of the Redwall books and the ROC never got around to do it, ending TSW on a massive cliffhanger. Now however, he's started posting it on Fanfiction.net again, and if the saga gets more attention and renewed popularity, that would be the deciding factor in reviving it for a third novel. In short, this is a must-read for any Redwall fan, and for anyone who enjoys [[FurryFandom furry]] fiction or just well-written fan fiction in general.

* Comments: The best fanfic this troper has ever read, and one of his favorite novels ''period'', this ambitious, multi-novel, DoorStopper fic is miles better than the official novels as far as I'm concerned. One of the great classics of the ROC in the early 2000's, this [[NeedsMoreLove tragically underrated]] masterpiece was one of the first fics to make in-depth explorations of the oft-used "noble vermin" theme that is so common in the Redwall fan community, and it does so in a truly brilliant way. But that's far from the only reason to read it; the story constantly forces the reader to re-evaluate the characters and conflicts in it, making you unsure who's side you're supposed to be on, which characters feel sympathetic and who's really good and evil. No-one illustrates this better than the mysterious badger for which the saga is named: he's a [[WellIntentionedExtremist well-intentioned]] crusader who has done many good things for the world, but nevertheless uses [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans very questionable methods]] to attain them, never making you sure if he's a hero or villain. Sadly, the saga isn't finished; after The Shrew War finished publication in early 2004, Highwing announced that he would complete it at a later date, but due to real-life issues and the declining popularity of the Redwall books and the ROC never got around to do it, ending TSW on a massive cliffhanger. Now however, he's started posting it on Fanfiction.net again, and if the saga gets more attention and renewed popularity, that would be the deciding factor in reviving it for a third novel. In short, this is a must-read for any Redwall fan, and for anyone who enjoys [[FurryFandom furry]] fiction or just well-written fan fiction in general.

** Featuring an intriguing (female!) AntiHero, an equally intriguing AntiVillain in the part of Longclaws' {{Dragon}}, moral complexities, a detailed investigation of the workings of a vermin horde, and some nice battles, this is a beautiful take on the Redwall canon. Be warned, however, that it is in some ways a mature {DeconstructionFic of the Redwall epic and is targeted several years older than the series itself, meaning BlackAndGreyMorality and rape (not of Riala) make appearances, becoming NightmareFuel in numerous places. However, it's overall beautifully told. (Also the source of a couple of [[ProtectorsOfThePlotContinuum PPC agents]], incidentally; some of the few recruited from goodfic.)

* Synopsis: A one-shot detailing the fate of a deceased OC pine marten by the name of Keinruf in a Hellgates bearing a distinct resemblance to that of the Webcomic/{{Jack}}verse.

** Sheer creepy awesome. As well as Keinruf, we encounter a few familiar faces; Swartt's IronicHell is both amusing and profoundly eerie. Plus it's heavily influenced by ''Webcomic/{{Jack}}'' and has a funny ShoutOut to ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' with the Death of Rats. It actually got this troper musing on possible Ironic Hells for the other BigBad characters; for Ferahgo and Klitch, I'm voting for a small room containing nothing but the two of them.

* Synopsis: A one-shot set in the time of Abbot Cedric (briefly mentioned in ''Redwall'') about a Mary Sue squirrel who meets her fate at the paws of a ferret she believes is in love with her. Makes reference to and is named after the song ''Culling of the Fold'' by TheDecembeMusic/TheDecemberistsists.

* Synopsis: A one-shot set in the time of Abbot Cedric (briefly mentioned in ''Redwall'') about a Mary Sue squirrel who meets her fate at the paws of a ferret she believes is in love with her. Makes reference to and is named after the song ''Culling of the Fold'' by TheDecemberists.

* '''Redwall RTS Game'''
The Redwall book series, in all it's structure, story, and ''classiness'', it actually delivers quite a perfect draft for a Real Time Strategy game, modelled after... er... let's say the VideoGame/AgeOfEmpires series, the Anno series, Cossacks, American Conquest, and EmpireEarth (EE II and III are two big disgraces!). Like any other of such RTS games, it may contain a campaign, single missions, ''skirmishes'', and a multiplayer mode.

In the single missions, e.g. Redwall may be constructed over the courses of several books. It may be the player's job to supervise, and/or defend the construction. Or you can take charge of Salamandastron, and defend the area on the coast, and the county.

In the campaign, those scenarios may be used as well, together with plots of different, correlating books. Alternatively, the player may also form and lead a ''horde'' to pride and glory; also in a ''skirmish'' or a multiplayer game.

In another version, the steps of e.g. Martin the Warrior can be traced throughout the different books, in a campaign similar to ''Napoleon: Total War'' (TotalWar series).

The gameplay: When not working with the afore-mentioned Redwall or Salamandastron scenarios, some other maps could be used (Northlands= mountains, Mossflower= continent, Sampetra= Islands, etc.), or you play on a randomly- generated map.
After designing or picking a ''leader'' or ''hero'' (like in Tropico 3, and AOE III), a special character with special leading features and abilities (though varying fields of expertise, sanity and occupation, like e.g. defenses, strength, or resourcefulness), each faction (normally ''Woodlanders'' vs. ''Vermin'') with a HQ on opposite sides of the map, where their main goal may be to construct, a ''colony'', a refuge, or some other type of secured community, ridding the area of their foe(s), either offensively or defensively (in the ''Woodlanders' '' case), or you can horde troops, and dominate the map (the same idea, but a little bit more offensive) with the amount of troops you collected (for the ''Vermin'' faction).

Apart from the leaders, technology trees are of importance too. You can choose from one (like in CompanyOfHeroes), depending on what type of strategy the player sees as fit on this map. They can upgrade features of most aspects (like economically -when collecting resources, or building units-, and militarily- improving units' abilities). I will think about that aspect a little bit later though.

Now, the rough two main sides' FactionCalculus may be ''Woodlanders'' (few but strong; Powerhouse) vs. ''Vermin'' (many but weak; Subversive). There will be many more, other, sometimes neutral factions, like robber gangs (always hostile to Ws), corsairs (always hostile to Ws), tribes (could be neutral, hostile to one side, or both sides, depending on the species), mercenaries (hostile to one side, depending on the species), warrior clans (hostile to one side, depending to the species) and ''monsters'' (hostile to either side). More specifically, there can be Gousim travel groups or settlements, whom you can recruit, or help, as long as you're a Wl.

Additionally, the main factions (these being Redwall Abbey, Salamandastron, Land Of Ice And Snow, Sampetra, Vermin Land Robbers, Malkariss, Castle Floret, etc) will have individual unit traits themselves, multiplying the depth and detail in combat once more. Redwall Abbey will then have 1. mainly civilians and militia, who 2. are defensively doctrined, 3. headstrong, 4. specialized in medicine and rehabilitation, 5. native to woods and fields, 6. inspirational yet hesitant leaders, and 7. are inferior and subjective in combat. The land of Ice And Snow has 1. mostly light soldiers (yet being professionals), 2. powerful leaders, 3. yet not particularly strongly motivated, 4. fearsome, 5. native to northern hemispherical locations (cold and snowy ones), 6. aggressive, and 7. undisciplined and vengeful in combat. Salamandastron 1. has a balanced offensive/defensive doctrine, 2. has a fearsome reputation, are 3. native to cliffs and coasts, 4. mostly heavy infantry (with ''Sleepers'' notwithstanding), 5. aggressive leaders, and 6. cool-headed and methodical. Et Cetera. (with thanks to HotHeadedAstronomer)

BTW, I have thought about an ''assignment'' option for the player, to perform for a neutral, non-hostile side (like in Anno 1701, Anno 1404, or Cossacks II). In return, they promise the player resources, or troops.

** Of course, there are many troop types:
*** Workers: e.g. tribesbeasts, Redwall mice, slaves, moles (on Zarpaulus' request)
*** Populace: e.g. Redwall mice, 'conscripts'
*** Militia: e.g. tribesbeasts, mercenaries, 'conscripts', Malkarissian Fanatics
*** Swordbeasts: e.g. Any close range infantry, like ''Waterhogs''
*** Archers: e.g. Any wide range infantry, like the '’Greytail horde’’
*** Scouts: e.g. Gousim, tribesbeasts, any trackers
*** Skirmishers: e.g. Otters, Squirrels, Gousim, Long Patrol Sleepers
*** Elite troops: e.g. Long Patrol, heroes,
*** Officers: e.g. (like in Company of Heroes: Opposing Fronts): e.g. Long Patrol(,) heroes
*** Corpsbeasts: e.g. Redwall nurses, seers, traveller foxes, "magicians", healers
*** Artillery: e.g. Fire swingers, ballistas, battering rams, siege towers, etc.
*** Ships: e.g. corsair ships, fishing boats, logboats, galleys, merchant vessels

These troops would rather be divided into squads, scores, and regiments, like in Cossacks, American Conquest or CompanyOfHeroes (but can also be moved singularly, alternately) . They can be moved around, and replenished. Each regiment has the said special abilities, which it can perform on field. They can man forests and enter buildings for ambushes or attacks. They can dominate ‘sectors’ on the map, like in CompanyOfHeroes and The Settlers – Rise of an Empire, and their goal is to destroy the enemy.

In this game, it must be necessary, to remove most prejudicial elements of both sides. In other words, that the ''Vermin'' faction is not to be disregarded or disadvantaged in any way (also not their appearance. After all, they are just animals as well), and their masses should balance their weakness.

By the way, there would still be the conflict between micromanagement vs. macromanagement: I in fact planned to balance it for good, by giving player both the chance to control individual units, or to put them into large regiments and even task forces.

Furthermore, there will be some characters who do have special abilities, yet are no heroes in that sense. May appear in (but not restricted to) the campaign mode. Some figures could be Sela the Vixen, who is an expert in healing, espionage and counter-intelligence. Vallug Bowbeast is an expert sniper. Pakatugg Treefleet is good in setting ambushes and in camouflage. Farran the Poisoner is all about chemical warfare. Enough said. Such specialists are not only the only ones who are permanently able to perform such tasks, but could (such as in the case of Pakatugg Treefleet) enable nearby soldiers to do the same, when e.g. placed in the same regiment.

Now, this may just be a rough copy, and Ill get around to edit it in the near future, with any troper’s aid or ideas. Feel free to subscribe and support.

* Hmm, I would have moles as Redwall workers rather than mice, and the "neutral" factions are kind of weighed against the Vermin. Maybe all "neutral" factions come under the control of their favored faction when found, mercenaries and corsairs being equivalent to Guosim (which is available depends on the map).
** Good idea. Just edit the text above. You are free to do so (just, if possible, don't delete anything; this is supposed to be a collection of ideas). Now, on the other hand, you'll surely find enough vermin tribes in Mossflower. At least, you don't run out of them after every book.
*** Glad to see I'm not the only one who's thought of this. And the resources in the game would be the same as in VideoGame/AgeOfEmpires (wood, gold, stone, food). Each side would also get a "Hero" unit, like in Warcraft3. In fact, this troper thought up how a Redwall RTS game could work all the way back in '04.
**** Ditto, HotHeadedAstronomer. As this troper said already, feel free to edit.
**** Okay, the idea I had for the playable factions were Redwall, Salamandastron, Vermin Hordes, Marlfoxes, Land of Ice and Snow. Redwall would be the "middle of the road" faction, much like the Terrans of StarCraft. Salamandastron would focus mainly on powerful units, much more like the Protoss. Marlfoxes would focus more on stealth and trying to subvert enemy factions, much like House Ordos from the {{Dune}} games. The Vermin Hordes would be favoring ZergRush tactics; lots of weak units who do a lot of damage overall. And as for the Land of Ice and Snow? They'd be like a mix of Zerg and Protoss; weak units being lead by insanely powerful ones. For resources, gold would come from gold mines, stone from quarries, wood from trees, and food either from farms, fish, birds, or fruit trees. Unless you play as the Land of Ice and Snow, who can use enemy units for food.
***** Sorry, I'm not aware of either Starcraft or {{Dune}}. But I see your point of inter-faction variation, that is not only limited on the sides Woodlanders & Vermin. Your's I have added above.
* I've thought of a Redwall RTS idea myself when I was younger, and the AOE games dominated the market. My advice, for the quick and easy way to do it: Reskin an already existing game, perhaps AOE II or AOE online because they're both graphically simple and Medieval. Other suggestions:
*** Link to a website. This isn't the place for these kinds of musing.
*** Don't overcomplicate it. A WW2 game like CoH would NOT mesh with Redwall's theme, so drop that.
*** Redwall's a very tribal series. You rarely see battles spanning in thousands or tens of thousands, so you hardly need squad systems.
*** I'd recommend either two factions (Redwall and Vermin) initially. They don't need too many unit types - basic infantry is mice/rats, cavalry is hares/weasels, archers are squirrels/ferrets, builders are moles/stoats. Simple is key.

* [[http://www.fanfiction.net/u/302888/pyrrhic-victory]]
** Recommended by Panthersnake
** ''Comments'': Pyrrhic Victory is a brilliant author. Her fics are quite often extremely dark, but they also tend to have a lot of humor in them.

** I've thought of a Redwall RTS idea myself when I was younger, and the AOE games dominated the market. My advice, for the quick and easy way to do it: Reskin an already existing game, perhaps AOE II or AOE online because they're both graphically simple and Medieval. Other suggestions:

** ''Comments'': Laburnum is a brilliant author. Her fics are quite often dark, but they also tend to have a lot of humour in them.

* ''Synopsis'': Basically reads like a fresh installment of the main series, with an all-new cast. The main character, Riala Goldentail, watches her father be killed by a wolverine named Nightdeath Longclaws, which kicks off the titular quest to avenge him. Features substantial [[BreakTheCutie cutie]]-[[CorruptTheCutie damaging]] in literal and metaphorical form. Is a DeconstructionFic for the AlwaysLawfulGood and AlwaysChaoticEvil concepts in canon.

* [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3225879/1/Seven_Seasons_Gone Seven Seasons Gone]], by Clouded Horizon.

* Recommended by [[Tropers/{{Zadia}} Zadia]]

** Seriously one of my favourite fics out there. Perfectly believable, there's some good comedy (such as the interactions between the vermin gang), the rant by Eyeshine about how [[EvenEvilHasStandards vermin]] ''[[EvenEvilHasStandards do]]'' [[EvenEvilHasStandards have some standards]] is quite good... really, there's not much to dislike. Especially as it's a Mary Sue parody that also parodies Twilight.

* Recommended by [[Tropers/{{CathalPicard}} Cathal Picard]]

* [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6489219/1/Dissonance Dissonance]], by Les Rallizes Denudes
* Recommended by [[Tropers/{{currentvalue}} currentvalue]]

* Comments: A very interesting twist on the modern Redwall fanfic, casting Redwall itself as a [[EldritchAbomination living tomb]] and detailing the mental battles between the protagonist fox and the [[TheLifestream the spirit of Martin the Warrior]]. Very mindfuck-y, but rewarding.

* Recommended by [[Tropers/{{Chelonianmobile}} chelonianmobile]]

** Sheer creepy awesome. As well as Keinruf, we encounter a few familiar faces; Swartt's IronicHell is both amusing and profoundly eerie. Plus it's heavily influenced by ''Webcomic/{{Jack}}'' and has a funny ShoutOut to ''{{Discworld}}'' with the Death of Rats. It actually got this troper musing on possible Ironic Hells for the other BigBad characters; for Ferahgo and Klitch, I'm voting for a small room containing nothing but the two of them.

* ''Fanfic/TheUrthbloodSaga'', by Highwing

** These have got to be some of the best fanfictions I've ever read. Warrior4 manages to [[spoiler: resurrect Rose]] without making it feel like an AssPull in the process. A lot of thought went into this break from canon, and it actually feels very believable. The story features dozens of familiar characters, from both ''Mossflower'' and ''Martin the Warrior'', and manages not to [[CharacterDerailment derail any of them]]. There a number of wonderfully crafted original characters, who all get a good amount of CharacterDevelopment, and a few well-placed {{Shout Out}}s. In addition, [[spoiler: Rose and]] Columbine manage to subvert the classic DamselInDistress situation, by aiding their own rescue from the inside. Warrior4 also manages to capture some of Brian Jacques' trademark feel with a fair amount of well written poems and songs. And finally, to top it off, the main antagonists are some of the best {{Anti Villain}}s I've ever read. [[GushingAboutShowsYouLike Forgive my gushing]], but this is seriously a must-read for any Redwall fan.

In the single missions, e.g. Redwall may be constructed over the courses of several books. It may be the player's job to supervise, and/or defend the construction. Or you can take charge of Salamandastron, and defend the area on the coast, and the county.

After designing or picking a ''leader'' or ''hero'' (like in Tropico 3, and AOE III), a special character with special leading features and abilities (though varying fields of expertise, sanity and occupation, like e.g. defenses, strength, or resourcefulness), each faction (normally ''Woodlanders'' vs. ''Vermin'') with a HQ on opposite sides of the map, where their main goal may be to construct, a ''colony'', a refuge, or some other type of secured community, ridding the area of their foe(s), either offensively or defensively (in the ''Woodlanders' '' case), or you can horde troops, and dominate the map (the same idea, but a little bit more offensive) with the amount of troops you collected (for the ''Vermin'' faction).

BTW, I have thought about an ''assignment'' option for the player, to perform for a neutral, non-hostile side (like in Anno 1701, Anno 1404, or Cossacks II). In return, they promise the player resources, or troops.

These troops would rather be divided into squads, scores, and regiments, like in Cossacks, American Conquest or CompanyOfHeroes (but can also be moved singularly, alternately) . They can be moved around, and replenished. Each regiment has the said special abilities, which it can perform on field. They can man forests and enter buildings for ambushes or attacks. They can dominate ‘sectors’ on the map, like in CompanyOfHeroes and The Settlers – Rise of an Empire, and their goal is to destroy the enemy.

** These have got to be some of the best fanfictions I've ever read. Warrior4 manages to [[spoiler: resurrect Rose]] ''without breaking canon'', and without making it feel like an AssPull in the process. The story features dozens of familiar characters, from both ''Mossflower'' and ''Martin the Warrior'', and manages not to [[CharacterDerailment derail any of them]]. There a number of wonderfully crafted original characters, who all get a good amount of CharacterDevelopment, and a few well-placed {{Shout Out}}s. In addition, [[spoiler: Rose and]] Columbine manage to subvert the classic DamselInDistress situation, by aiding their own rescue from the inside. Warrior4 also manages to capture some of Brian Jacques' trademark feel with a fair amount of well written poems and songs. And finally, to top it off, the main antagonists are some of the best {{Anti Villain}}s I've ever read. [[GushingAboutShowsYouLike Forgive my gushing]], but this is seriously a must-read for any Redwall fan.