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Also known as 'The Firehooves Cycle', is an expanded universe of Tornado Firehooves's fanfictions of My Little Pony - Friendship is Magic. It is a melded universe in which the [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyAndFriends G1 My Little Pony]] is a [[BadFuture Bad Future]] of [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic FIM]], an inversion of a FandomSpecificPlot for FIM. The first story in this universe is Twilight Then, Twilight Now, where two Twilights in two different timelines are experiencing events that shake Equestria's/Ponyland's history.
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Also known as 'The Firehooves Cycle', is an expanded universe of Tornado Firehooves's fanfictions of My Little Pony - Friendship is Magic. ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic''. It is a melded universe in which the [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyAndFriends G1 My Little Pony]] is a [[BadFuture Bad Future]] of [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic FIM]], FIM, an inversion of a FandomSpecificPlot for FIM. The first story in this universe is Twilight ''Twilight Then, Twilight Now, Now'', where two Twilights in two different timelines are experiencing events that shake Equestria's/Ponyland's Equestria/Ponyland's history.
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* KillerMonkeys: The Gizmonks. They are a race of scientifically-advanced monkeys who do experiments on ponies and also make glue out of them in a secret factory under Ponyville.
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* KillerMonkeys: ManiacMonkeys: The Gizmonks. They are a race of scientifically-advanced monkeys who do experiments on ponies and also make glue out of them in a secret factory under Ponyville.
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* ThePigPen: Waterfire is coated with filth and "brown stains". She also technically lives in the Ponyville Sewer.
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* AbsurdlySpaciousSewer: The Ponyville Sewer in ''Applejack Through the Ages''. It even has an underground factory.
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* BrokenPedestal: Celestia's [[HeroicSacrifice Heroic Sacrifice]] to destroy [[GodOfEvil Discord]] have made the [[TearJerker majority of ponies to lose a lot of faith in Alicorns due to realising that they can die like any mortal pony and are not really]] [[PhysicalGod Godesses]].
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* BrokenPedestal: Celestia's [[HeroicSacrifice Heroic Sacrifice]] to destroy [[GodOfEvil Discord]] have made the [[TearJerker majority of ponies to lose a lot of faith in Alicorns due to realising that they can die like any mortal pony and are not really]] really [[PhysicalGod Godesses]].
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* InnocenceLost: [[TearJerker The Grogar Wars and some endless wars that fell Equestria have really made ponies suffer]]. [[TearJerker No wonder they've become more warlike and hostile]].
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* InnocenceLost: [[TearJerker The Grogar Wars and some endless wars that fell Equestria have really made ponies suffer]]. [[TearJerker suffer. No wonder they've become more warlike and hostile]].hostile.
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* HornyVikings: The raiding horses from Hinigsita wore brown cloaks, grey armour and horned helmets while they pillaged the remains of a destroyed Equestria immediately after the end of the Grogar Wars.
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* FantasyCounterpartCulture: Most kingdoms in Ponyland have many similarities to RealLife cultures:
** Dream Valley has a typical Medieval European culture.
** Fort Rainbow Dash is AncientRome and AncientGreece.
** Bright Valley has a typical 1950s American city feel.
** Hoofkaido is feudal Japan.
** Misty Mountain is Switzerland.
** Maretonia is Spain and Mexico.
** Mustangia is south USA, possibly Mississippi.
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** Fort Rainbow Dash is AncientRome and AncientGreece.
** Bright Valley has a typical 1950s American city feel.
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** Misty Mountain is Switzerland.
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* DespairEventHorizon: The following comes from an excerpt during the fall of Alicornism (worship of [[WingedUnicorn Alicorns]]):
--> "The gathering darkness clouds in over Equestria, slowly eclipsing the glow of the light of friendship. Since the death of Princess Celestia, our fair land has been plagued by maladies of every sort. More and more townsfolk and small landholders are falling into heavy debt, causing them to fall under the power of the wealthy landholding ponies to whom they indenture themselves to. Inflation is skyrocketing, and mares and stallions who carefully saved their entire lives, now find their hoarded bits suddenly worthless. Greed has eclipsed friendship, as corruption has seeped into every level of society....
--> ....the religion of the great Horsemaster swells in believers, the disillusioned ponies of this land realizing the two great alicorn sisters are all too mortal. Hordes of zealous followers of Zorypontha form mobs in the great cities of Fillydelphia and Manehatten, rushing in to smash and destroy the 'heathen idols' of Celestia and Luna. "Ponygans", they call the followers of the old faith, worshipers of false goddesses who they claim are only ponies like the rest of us. Their churches and cathedrals pack in new converts, while those of us Alicornists who remain watch as our temples and shrines see fewer and fewer visits. The Horsemaster followers tolerate us with a grudging contempt, even as our own numbers continue to diminish.
-->...the position of Stallions and colts continues to erode, as each new edict strips them of their rights to speak out against a mare, or to hold property. Alternate lifestyles and individual initiative are slowly being abolished, as the ponies who go against the herd are shunned and driven out. Even in our own Ponyville, I have seen a pair of outcast mares turn up drowned, after they had spoken out against the rising tide of strict morality the herd has embraced. And what does Princess Luna do to stop these travesties? Nothing, as she is still wrapped up in the grief of her sister's death. Our princess hides herself in her sorrow, as local noblemares seize power in each region. Loyalty to family and clan becomes more and more important, as friendship is spat upon and ridiculed as an outdated and illogical concept...
-->... I fear nothing can save our rotten society, even my own foals laugh at ideas the Harmony bearers once held dear. What can I say, when our school's teacher makes despairing remarks about an alicorn Princess who died as other ponies did? What can I do when my neighbors stand against anypony, who dares to speak out against the decay all around us? Our world is changing forever, and I fear it may not be for the better..." Twilight Glitter, [[http://www.fimfiction.net/blog/119662/excerpt-ii This Wicked Generation of Equines]]
* TheDreaded: Gypsy, the mysterious Romani unicorn, is feared by the local Dream Valley ponies. [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] for her really being spooky to ward off trespassers, especially since it's a dangerous world after Equestria's fall.
--> "The gathering darkness clouds in over Equestria, slowly eclipsing the glow of the light of friendship. Since the death of Princess Celestia, our fair land has been plagued by maladies of every sort. More and more townsfolk and small landholders are falling into heavy debt, causing them to fall under the power of the wealthy landholding ponies to whom they indenture themselves to. Inflation is skyrocketing, and mares and stallions who carefully saved their entire lives, now find their hoarded bits suddenly worthless. Greed has eclipsed friendship, as corruption has seeped into every level of society....
--> ....the religion of the great Horsemaster swells in believers, the disillusioned ponies of this land realizing the two great alicorn sisters are all too mortal. Hordes of zealous followers of Zorypontha form mobs in the great cities of Fillydelphia and Manehatten, rushing in to smash and destroy the 'heathen idols' of Celestia and Luna. "Ponygans", they call the followers of the old faith, worshipers of false goddesses who they claim are only ponies like the rest of us. Their churches and cathedrals pack in new converts, while those of us Alicornists who remain watch as our temples and shrines see fewer and fewer visits. The Horsemaster followers tolerate us with a grudging contempt, even as our own numbers continue to diminish.
-->...the position of Stallions and colts continues to erode, as each new edict strips them of their rights to speak out against a mare, or to hold property. Alternate lifestyles and individual initiative are slowly being abolished, as the ponies who go against the herd are shunned and driven out. Even in our own Ponyville, I have seen a pair of outcast mares turn up drowned, after they had spoken out against the rising tide of strict morality the herd has embraced. And what does Princess Luna do to stop these travesties? Nothing, as she is still wrapped up in the grief of her sister's death. Our princess hides herself in her sorrow, as local noblemares seize power in each region. Loyalty to family and clan becomes more and more important, as friendship is spat upon and ridiculed as an outdated and illogical concept...
-->... I fear nothing can save our rotten society, even my own foals laugh at ideas the Harmony bearers once held dear. What can I say, when our school's teacher makes despairing remarks about an alicorn Princess who died as other ponies did? What can I do when my neighbors stand against anypony, who dares to speak out against the decay all around us? Our world is changing forever, and I fear it may not be for the better..." Twilight Glitter, [[http://www.fimfiction.net/blog/119662/excerpt-ii This Wicked Generation of Equines]]
* TheDreaded: Gypsy, the mysterious Romani unicorn, is feared by the local Dream Valley ponies. [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] for her really being spooky to ward off trespassers, especially since it's a dangerous world after Equestria's fall.
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* DespairEventHorizon: The following comes from an excerpt Happens to everypony when a lifebonded mate dies.
** Implied to be one of the reasons for Cadence's odd behaviours after Lavan's destruction of the old Crystal Empire and Shining Armour's death during thefall of Alicornism (worship of [[WingedUnicorn Alicorns]]):
--> "The gathering darkness clouds in over Equestria, slowly eclipsing the glow of the light of friendship. Since the death of Princess Celestia, our fair land has been plagued by maladies of every sort. More and more townsfolk and small landholders are falling into heavy debt, causing them to fall under the power of the wealthy landholding ponies to whom they indenture themselves to. Inflation is skyrocketing, and mares and stallions who carefully saved their entire lives, now find their hoarded bits suddenly worthless. Greed has eclipsed friendship, as corruption has seeped into every level of society....
--> ....the religion of the great Horsemaster swells in believers, the disillusioned ponies of this land realizing the two great alicorn sisters are all too mortal. Hordes of zealous followers of Zorypontha form mobs in the great cities of Fillydelphia and Manehatten, rushing in to smash and destroy the 'heathen idols' of Celestia and Luna. "Ponygans", they call the followers of the old faith, worshipers of false goddesses who they claim are only ponies like the rest of us. Their churches and cathedrals pack in new converts, while those of us Alicornists who remain watch as our temples and shrines see fewer and fewer visits. The Horsemaster followers tolerate us with a grudging contempt, even as our own numbers continue to diminish.
-->...the position of Stallions and colts continues to erode, as each new edict strips them of their rights to speak out against a mare, or to hold property. Alternate lifestyles and individual initiative are slowly being abolished, as the ponies who go against the herd are shunned and driven out. Even in our own Ponyville, I have seen a pair of outcast mares turn up drowned, after they had spoken out against the rising tide of strict morality the herd has embraced. And what does Princess Luna do to stop these travesties? Nothing, as she is still wrapped up in the grief of her sister's death. Our princess hides herself in her sorrow, as local noblemares seize power in each region. Loyalty to family and clan becomes more and more important, as friendship is spat upon and ridiculed as an outdated and illogical concept...
-->... I fear nothing can save our rotten society, even my own foals laugh at ideas the Harmony bearers once held dear. What can I say, when our school's teacher makes despairing remarks about an alicorn Princess who died as other ponies did? What can I do when my neighbors stand against anypony, who dares to speak out against the decay all around us? Our world is changing forever, and I fear it may not be for the better..." Twilight Glitter, [[http://www.fimfiction.net/blog/119662/excerpt-ii This Wicked Generation of Equines]]
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* TheDreaded: Gypsy, the mysteriousRomani Roma unicorn, is feared by the local Dream Valley ponies. [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] for her really being spooky to ward off trespassers, especially since it's a dangerous world after Equestria's fall.
** Implied to be one of the reasons for Cadence's odd behaviours after Lavan's destruction of the old Crystal Empire and Shining Armour's death during the
--> "The gathering darkness clouds in over Equestria, slowly eclipsing the glow of the light of friendship. Since the death of Princess Celestia, our fair land has been plagued by maladies of every sort. More and more townsfolk and small landholders are falling into heavy debt, causing them to fall under the power of the wealthy landholding ponies to whom they indenture themselves to. Inflation is skyrocketing, and mares and stallions who carefully saved their entire lives, now find their hoarded bits suddenly worthless. Greed has eclipsed friendship, as corruption has seeped into every level of society....
--> ....the religion of the great Horsemaster swells in believers, the disillusioned ponies of this land realizing the two great alicorn sisters are all too mortal. Hordes of zealous followers of Zorypontha form mobs in the great cities of Fillydelphia and Manehatten, rushing in to smash and destroy the 'heathen idols' of Celestia and Luna. "Ponygans", they call the followers of the old faith, worshipers of false goddesses who they claim are only ponies like the rest of us. Their churches and cathedrals pack in new converts, while those of us Alicornists who remain watch as our temples and shrines see fewer and fewer visits. The Horsemaster followers tolerate us with a grudging contempt, even as our own numbers continue to diminish.
-->...the position of Stallions and colts continues to erode, as each new edict strips them of their rights to speak out against a mare, or to hold property. Alternate lifestyles and individual initiative are slowly being abolished, as the ponies who go against the herd are shunned and driven out. Even in our own Ponyville, I have seen a pair of outcast mares turn up drowned, after they had spoken out against the rising tide of strict morality the herd has embraced. And what does Princess Luna do to stop these travesties? Nothing, as she is still wrapped up in the grief of her sister's death. Our princess hides herself in her sorrow, as local noblemares seize power in each region. Loyalty to family and clan becomes more and more important, as friendship is spat upon and ridiculed as an outdated and illogical concept...
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* DarkTimes: Equestria after the death of most Harmony Bearers did decay a little for centuries, but the worst times for ponykind were after Celestia's HeroicSacrifice, the Grogar Wars and the aftermath of Equestria's demise.
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** [[spoiler: On the other hand, even if you see Applejack as the hero -- or at least a justified WellIntentionedExtremist -- it's hard to deny that the New 6 are really in the wrong when they point out that they have a right to exist too, even if they're not as perfect as their ancestors were.]]
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* {{Precursers}}: The Penna are this to this world. They were very technologically and magically advanced for their time and could also magically create magical living beings. Their fall came when they created the draconequi and it [[GoneHorriblyWrong backfired on them]] [[TurnedAgainstTheirMasters with the draconequi turning against the Penna]]. The Penna-Draconequus war destroyed the Penna civilisation which left the ponies to rise in their place.
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* {{Precursers}}: {{Precursors}}: The Penna are this to this world. They were very technologically and magically advanced for their time and could also magically create magical living beings. Their fall came when they created the draconequi and it [[GoneHorriblyWrong backfired on them]] [[TurnedAgainstTheirMasters with the draconequi turning against the Penna]]. The Penna-Draconequus war destroyed the Penna civilisation which left the ponies to rise in their place.
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* UnreliableNarrator: Tornado may be considered as one in universe by mostly stating the negatives of Equestria and Ponyland. [[http://www.fimfiction.net/blog/305565/a-change-in-journal-ponies-a-kinder-gentler-journal This blog can explain better]].
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