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* ''Film/FallingDown'': [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain Nick the Neo-Nazi store owner]] incorrectly thinks William "D-Fens" Foster is another Neo-Nazi after hearing about his antics at Whammy Burger, but he doesn't get that Foster isn't a bigot, just a man who's GoingPostal. When Foster sets him straight, he's not happy.
--> '''Neo-Nazi Store Owner:''' We're the [[NotSoDifferentRemark same]], you and me. We're the same...don't you see?\\
'''Foster:''' We are not the same. I am an American, and you're a sick asshole.
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* [[MagnificentBastard Cipher]] from ''[[Film/TheFastAndTheFurious Fate of the Furious]]'' (the eighth ''Fast and Furious'' film) mocks [[TheHero Dom]] for showing kindness to a cheating driver he defeated at the beginning of the film, to which Dom informs her by letting bygones be bygones, he earned the man's respect and [[DefeatMeansFriendship a new ally]] [[spoiler: who plays a part in his scheme to turn the tables on her]], something Cypher dismisses. This comes back to bite her in the end; [[spoiler: after Dom makes peace with his former enemies, [[HeelFaceTurn the Shaw brothers]]]], he gains an edge on Cipher that she never saw coming.

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* [[MagnificentBastard Cipher]] from ''[[Film/TheFastAndTheFurious Fate of the Furious]]'' (the eighth ''Fast and Furious'' film) ''Film/TheFateOfTheFurious'' mocks [[TheHero Dom]] for showing kindness to a cheating driver he defeated at the beginning of the film, to which Dom informs her by letting bygones be bygones, he earned the man's respect and [[DefeatMeansFriendship a new ally]] [[spoiler: who [[spoiler:who plays a part in his scheme to turn the tables on her]], something Cypher dismisses. This comes back to bite her in the end; [[spoiler: after [[spoiler:after Dom makes peace with his former enemies, [[HeelFaceTurn the Shaw brothers]]]], he gains an edge on Cipher that she never saw coming.



* Elsa Schneider in ''Film/IndianaJonesAndTheLastCrusade''. Throughout the movie, she can’t understand that Indy doesn’t want to find the grail for the same reasons as her. She insists that [[NotInThisForYourRevolution she “believes in the grail, not the Swastika”]], but Indy retorts that she “stood up to be counted with the enemy of everything the Grail stands for.” In the end, she refuses to believe that the grail isn’t meant for her to keep. As she heads for the exit, she crosses the Great Seal and triggers the temple’s collapse. She almost falls into a chasm but Indy catches her. Instead of letting him save her, she pulls a hand free to reach the grail that she dropped. She comes so close, but her glove slips off the hand Indiana was holding and she loses her life. Henry Sr. later comments that Elsa thought the grail was “a prize” and she didn’t understand the spiritual meaning behind it.

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* Elsa Schneider in ''Film/IndianaJonesAndTheLastCrusade''. Throughout the movie, she can’t can't understand that Indy doesn’t doesn't want to find the grail for the same reasons as her. She insists that [[NotInThisForYourRevolution she “believes "believes in the grail, not the Swastika”]], Swastika"]], but Indy retorts that she “stood "stood up to be counted with the enemy of everything the Grail stands for.” for". In the end, she refuses to believe that the grail isn’t isn't meant for her to keep. As she heads for the exit, she crosses the Great Seal and triggers the temple’s temple's collapse. She almost falls into a chasm chasm, but Indy catches her. Instead of letting him save her, she pulls a hand free to reach the grail that she dropped. She comes so close, but her glove slips off the hand Indiana was holding Indiana's holding, and she loses her life. Henry Sr. later comments that Elsa thought the grail was “a prize” "a prize", and she didn’t didn't understand the spiritual meaning behind it.
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* ''Film/{{Downfall}}'' has Heinrich Himmler, the leader of the Nazi PraetorianGuard and the man responsible for the concentration camps, surrender to the Allies -- specifically the advancing British army -- on the assumption that [[{{Realpolitik}} the UK and the US would prop up the Nazi regime in Germany to prevent the Communist Soviets from taking over]]. It seems to escape him that after all the horrendous atrocities they have committed, any human of normal moral code wouldn't consider cooperating with them for a second.[[note]] The fact that "the Allies" included Stalin, who was a monster easily the equal of Hitler, who himself cooperated with the Nazis from August of 1939 through July of 1941, and who would turn on his former "allies" as soon as the Nazi threat was disposed of, may have colored his thinking somewhat. [[/note]]

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* ''Film/{{Downfall}}'' ''Film/Downfall2004'' has Heinrich Himmler, the leader of the Nazi PraetorianGuard and the man responsible for the concentration camps, surrender to the Allies -- specifically the advancing British army -- on the assumption that [[{{Realpolitik}} the UK and the US would prop up the Nazi regime in Germany to prevent the Communist Soviets from taking over]]. It seems to escape him that after all the horrendous atrocities they have committed, any human of normal moral code wouldn't consider cooperating with them for a second.[[note]] The fact that "the Allies" included Stalin, who was a monster easily the equal of Hitler, who himself cooperated with the Nazis from August of 1939 through July of 1941, and who would turn on his former "allies" as soon as the Nazi threat was disposed of, may have colored his thinking somewhat. [[/note]]
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* Used and subverted early in ''Film/{{Serenity}}''. Someone from the [[SchoolForScheming Academy]] says that Simon Tam "must be crazy" to have run such risks and gone to such lengths to save River. The Operative, true to his WellIntentionedExtremist nature, recognizes it for what it is.

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* Used and subverted early in ''Film/{{Serenity}}''.''Film/Serenity2005''. Someone from the [[SchoolForScheming Academy]] says that Simon Tam "must be crazy" to have run such risks and gone to such lengths to save River. The Operative, true to his WellIntentionedExtremist nature, recognizes it for what it is.
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--> '''Han:''' You Know what your problem is? You think everybody’s like you!

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*In the film ''Robot Overlords'', human collaborator Robin Smythe is consistently portrayed as incapable of understanding how people can stand up for something greater than themselves. At one point Smythe tells the robots that people will always do what’s ‘right’ when driven by fear, based on the premise that what’s ‘right’ in this context involves the human resistance surrendering to the robots to save their lives. Smythe is therefore taken aback when Kate, the woman he’s obsessed with, explicitly tells him that she would rather die than be with him after he faked her husband’s death (to say nothing of the rumours that Smythe killed his first wife and their son after he found his wife having an affair).
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** The Thrombeys all made assumptions that Marta must have "got her claws" into Harlan and slept with him because they simply cannot imagine (or don't want to accept) that Harlan generally liked her and valued her company/friendship more than that of his family because Marta.

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** The Thrombeys all made assumptions that Marta must have "got her claws" into Harlan and slept with him because they simply cannot imagine (or don't want to accept) that Harlan generally liked her and valued her company/friendship more than that of his family because Marta.family.

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** A concept a lot of the great powers didn't understand at the time. Until the dust had settled, the US had no interest in playing the postwar geopolitical "game" and intended to go back home when it was over.



* In ''Film/KnivesOut'', the point at which the murderer's plan starts to unravel is when his intended patsy, [[spoiler:the film's heroine Marta,]] stays behind and tries to save the life of the killer's second victim, rather than running from the scene in a panic and thereby incriminating herself as the killer predicted she would.
** Worth noting that this is the ''second'' EvilPlan foiled for the same reason, because the original was [[spoiler: to make Marta believe that she had accidentally overdosed Harlan and flee; instead, she stayed and told Harlan, which made Harlan commit suicide in order to fake an alibi for her.]]
** The Thrombeys all made assumptions that Marta must have "got her claws" into Harlan and slept with him because they simply cannot imagine (or don't want to accept) that Harlan generally liked her company and friendship compared to the rest of his family because Marta is a good, kind-hearted person.
* In ''Film/TheLastSamurai'', Nathan Algren is greatly haunted by the atrocities he committed in the past as a soldier. His fellow soldier Bagley sees his own atrocities as [[IDidWhatIHadToDo duty]] and [[ButForMeItWasTuesday barely remembers them]]. Bagley cannot understand why Algren is so bothered by them.
** Likewise, BigBad Omura doesn't understand Katsumoto's determination to die fighting the good fight, apparently having counted on Katsumoto to commit {{Seppuku}} and avoid the shame of defeat if the battle became unwinnable for Katsumoto.

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murderer's plan starts to unravel is when his intended patsy, [[spoiler:the film's heroine Marta,]] Marta]], stays behind and tries to save the life of the killer's second victim, rather than running from the scene in a panic and thereby incriminating herself as the killer predicted she would.
** Worth noting that this is the ''second'' EvilPlan foiled for the same reason, because the original was [[spoiler: to make Marta believe that she had accidentally overdosed Harlan and flee; instead, she stayed and told Harlan, which made Harlan spontaneously come up with an elaborate scheme to give her an alibi and commit suicide in order to fake an alibi for her.as part of the cover.]]
** The Thrombeys all made assumptions that Marta must have "got her claws" into Harlan and slept with him because they simply cannot imagine (or don't want to accept) that Harlan generally liked her and valued her company and friendship compared to the rest company/friendship more than that of his family because Marta is a good, kind-hearted person.
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** Likewise, BigBad Omura doesn't understand Katsumoto's determination to die fighting the good fight, apparently having counted on Katsumoto to commit {{Seppuku}} and avoid the shame of certain defeat if the battle became unwinnable for Katsumoto.
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* At the end of ''Film/PathsOfGlory'', General Broulard is so impressed by Colonel Dax's efforts in his battle against General Mireau to save his men from public execution that he's going to offer him Mireau's place. When Dax refuses because he wasn't doing it to have a promotion, Mireau is completely dumbfounded that anyone would try to save lives without something to gain from it, and threatens to have Dax arrested.

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* At the end of ''Film/PathsOfGlory'', General Broulard is so impressed by Colonel Dax's efforts in his battle against General Mireau to save his men from public execution that he's going to offer him Mireau's place. When Dax refuses because he wasn't doing it to have a promotion, Mireau Broulard is completely dumbfounded that anyone would try to save lives without something to gain from it, and threatens to have Dax arrested.

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* In the remake of ''Film/TheStepfordWives'' this is the undoing of those behind Stepford. It never occurs to them that, given the choice between a wife who's a brainless robot who caters to his every whim or one who's strong, independent and more successful, a husband would chose the latter instead of the former.

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* In the remake of ''Film/TheStepfordWives'' this is the undoing of those behind Stepford. It never occurs to them that, given the choice between a wife who's a brainless robot who caters to his every whim or one who's strong, independent and more successful, a husband would chose the latter instead of the former. Surely enough, Walter chooses to stop the minds behind Stepford than have a brainwashed wife.
* ''Film/TheTerminal'': Dixon is more "self-centered careerist" than evil, but he is confounded by Victor...actually following the rules and staying put than doing anything that would allow Dixon to arrest him. He also doesn't get Amelia's interest in Victor.
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* In ''Film/SherlockHolmesAGameOfShadows'', both Holmes and Moriarty employ a SherlockScan to predict the outcome of their final confrontation, and both come to the same conclusion: [[spoiler: that due to Holmes' injured shoulder, he can't win]]. However, [[spoiler: Moriarty -- self-interested to the point of outright sociopathy -- couldn't comprehend that Holmes was [[HeroicSacrifice willing to sacrifice his own life]] to defeat him. Even ''after'' Sherlock told him earlier that he was willing to if it guaranteed Moriarty's demise.]]

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* In ''Film/SherlockHolmesAGameOfShadows'', both Holmes and Moriarty employ a SherlockScan to predict the outcome of their final confrontation, and both come to the same conclusion: [[spoiler: that due to Holmes' injured shoulder, he can't win]]. However, [[spoiler: Moriarty -- self-interested to the point of outright sociopathy -- couldn't comprehend that Holmes was [[HeroicSacrifice willing to sacrifice his own life]] to defeat him. Even ''after'' Sherlock told him earlier that he was willing to if it guaranteed Moriarty's demise. As a result, Moriarty falls right into Holmes's DefensiveFeintTrap and both they go over the ledge into the Reichenbach Falls.]]
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* In ''Film/SherlockHolmesAGameOfShadows'', both Holmes and Moriarty employ a SherlockScan to predict the outcome of their final confrontation, and both come to the same conclusion: [[spoiler: that due to Holmes' injured shoulder, he can't win]]. However, [[spoiler: Moriarty -- self-interested to the point of outright sociopathy -- couldn't comprehend that Holmes was [[HeroicSacrifice willing to sacrifice his own life]] to defeat him.]]

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* In ''Film/SherlockHolmesAGameOfShadows'', both Holmes and Moriarty employ a SherlockScan to predict the outcome of their final confrontation, and both come to the same conclusion: [[spoiler: that due to Holmes' injured shoulder, he can't win]]. However, [[spoiler: Moriarty -- self-interested to the point of outright sociopathy -- couldn't comprehend that Holmes was [[HeroicSacrifice willing to sacrifice his own life]] to defeat him. Even ''after'' Sherlock told him earlier that he was willing to if it guaranteed Moriarty's demise.]]
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** ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'': As Anakin morally succumbs to the Dark Side of the Force, he completely loses touch with the values system that makes up so much of who Padme is. He's so obsessed with saving her from a vaguely defined, possible death that he violates every conscionable rule and moral in the name of possibly protecting her. It never even seems to occur to him that the same Padme he knows and loves would also be absolutely appalled and horrified by his betrayal of the Jedi, his support of a power-mad dictator, and the slaughter of younglings. At one point, [[DomesticAbuse he chokes his wife out]] [[MoralEventHorizon and blames Obi-Wan]] [[NeverMyFault for turning Padme against him]].

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** ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'': As Anakin morally succumbs to the Dark Side of the Force, he completely loses touch with the values system that makes up so much of who Padme Padmé is. He's so obsessed with saving her from a vaguely defined, possible death that he violates every conscionable rule and moral in the name of possibly protecting her. It never even seems to occur to him that the same Padme Padmé he knows and loves would also be absolutely appalled and horrified by his betrayal of the Jedi, his support of a power-mad dictator, and the slaughter of younglings. At one point, [[DomesticAbuse he chokes his wife out]] [[MoralEventHorizon and blames Obi-Wan]] [[NeverMyFault for turning Padme Padmé against him]].
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** In ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxyVol2'', [[GeniusLoci Ego the Living Planet]] is so convinced [[LackOfEmpathy in the worthlessness of other life forms]] that [[LoveIsAWeakness he killed his lover for being a distraction]]. When he lets it slip to his son Peter Quill during his MotiveRant, he casually expects him to be ''okay with it'' and [[WeCanRuleTogether still join him in his universal conquest]], not realizing the seriousness of what he had done. (specially given said lover was Peter's mother) He was completely baffled why Peter would give up his immortality to stop him and accuses him of being disobedient and [[ImmaturityInsult childish]]. The fact that Peter values his friends and other lives more than the idea of universal conquest never really occured to Ego.

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** In ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxyVol2'', [[GeniusLoci Ego the Living Planet]] is so convinced [[LackOfEmpathy in the worthlessness of other life forms]] that [[LoveIsAWeakness he killed his lover for being a distraction]]. When he lets it slip to his son Peter Quill during his MotiveRant, he casually expects him to be ''okay with it'' and [[WeCanRuleTogether still join him in his universal conquest]], not realizing the seriousness of what he had done. done (specially given said lover was Peter's mother) mother). He was completely baffled why Peter would give up his immortality to stop him and accuses him of being disobedient and [[ImmaturityInsult childish]]. The fact that Peter values his friends and other lives more than the idea of universal conquest never really occured to Ego.
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** In ''Film/SupermanII'', General Zod and Ursa assume Supes is protecting the humans because they are his pets.

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** In ''Film/SupermanII'', Zig-zagged during ''Film/SupermanII''. When they reach the White House, [[KneelBeforeZod General Zod demands that the president kneel before him]]. However, he deduces that [[BodyDouble the man who steps forward and kneels isn't actually the president]], since "No one who leads so many could possibly kneel so quickly.", thus prompting the real president to step forward and agreeing to kneel under the condition that Zod will spare the people of Earth. Later, Zod and Ursa assume Supes is protecting the humans because they are his pets.
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* In ''Film/IngloriousBasterds'', this is perhaps [[DownplayedTrope downplayed slightly]] to something more like "[[TheCynic cynical]] and [[ItsAllAboutMe selfish evil]] cannot understand [[NinetiesAntiHero unhinged good]]". Hans Landa is a self-serving member of the Nazi Party, seemingly doing it for status and material gain. He has no loyalty to the party or his country, and when it becomes obvious that the Nazis are going to lose the war he starts looking for a way out that will let him escape the consequences of his actions. Landa is convinced from the start that Aldo Raine's [[TerrorHero brutal campaign of fear and extreme violence]] is actually a clever and ruthless stratagem rather than completely genuine hatred for the Nazis and everything about them. To Landa, Aldo's guerilla campaign and Landa's attempts to catch him is like a game of chess played between two experts, to the point that Landa gets a little huffy when Raine indicates that he had no sense of "mutual respect" as Landa anticipated. Nonetheless, Landa is so convinced that at the end of the film [[spoiler:he willingly hands himself over to Aldo without any weapons or real back up, apparently expecting Raine to "drop the act" and perform as ordered and hand Landa over unharmed and allow Landa to live the rest of his life as a KarmaHoudini. Landa soon comes to learn the error of his ways and deeply regret misjudging the character of Raine and the rest of the Basterds.]]
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** ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'': Darth Vader handily unhands Luke during their lightsaber battle, and corners him on that control room vein. Confident in victory Vader tries to make the seriously injured Luke a offer he can't refuse -- to join him and the Dark Side. It doesn't occur to Vader to take Luke seriously when he roars back that he would never join Vader. But Luke is serious enough to let go and plunge to his presumable death rather than join the Dark Side. The young Skywalker may be his father's son, but he's also his mother's son, too.

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** ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'': Darth Vader handily unhands Luke during their lightsaber battle, and corners him on that control room vein. vane. Confident in victory Vader tries to make the seriously injured Luke a an offer he can't refuse -- to join him and the Dark Side. It doesn't occur to Vader to take Luke seriously when he roars back that he would never join Vader. But Luke is serious enough to let go and plunge to his presumable death rather than join the Dark Side. The young Skywalker may be his father's son, but he's also his mother's son, too.
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** ''Film/ANewHope'': [[EarthShatteringKaboom Alderaan gets destroyed]] by Grand Moff Tarkin as a warning to star systems thinking of opposing the Empire or sympathizing with the Rebel Alliance. [[MachiavelliWasWrong It has the opposite effect]], making many systems more sympathetic to the Rebellion, and in the expanded universe, it even sparked a mass defection by Alderaan-born Imperial officers. Leia even told him "The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers..." Of course, he wasn't expecting the Death Star, whose power he was using Alderaan as a demonstration for, to be destroyed shortly afterward. It's hammered home even more in the Radio/StarWarsRadioDramas, where Leia declares that using the Death Star to destroy Alderaan isn't just a MoralEventHorizon for the Empire in general and Tarkin in particular, but is also a sure sign that the Empire is doomed. Even '''''[[EvenEvilHasStandards Palpatine]]''''' was shocked when he learned that Tarkin had destroyed Alderaan with the Death Star, later citing that while he had signed off on Tarkin using '''''a''''' planet [[PragmaticVillainy as a demonstration to the Galaxy about the Death Stars' power]], he didn't expect Alderaan to be that destroyed planet since The Dark Lord of The Sith knew of [[OneHundredPercentAdorationRating Alderaans' reputation and significance to the Galaxy at large]] that he knew it would be grossly idiotic to have Alderaan destroyed by the Empire like it was.

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** ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier:'' Once Hydra's takeover of SHIELD is revealed and Pierce's plans for the Insight helicarriers are obvious, he clearly expects the other members of the security council to go along with it. All of them refuse. When Pierce asks Councilman Singh how he would react if Pakistan invaded India and were going to execute his daughters in a soccer stadium, and he could stop it with the flip of a switch, wouldn't he, all Singh says in response is, "Not if it's your switch."
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* ''Film/WillysWonderland'': [[spoiler:[[CorruptHick Sheriff]] [[KnightTemplar Lund]] does not see the Janitor as heroic for destroying the killer animatronics, instead holding him at gunpoint and tries to feed him to Willy as payback for it. This backfires as [[KarmicDeath she gets brutally murdered by Willy in return]].]]

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* ''Film/DeathBecomesHer'': Lisle and company are genuinely puzzled when Ernest refuses the potion. They are too self-centered and shallow to care about [[WhoWantsToLiveForever the reasons he has for not wanting to be immortal]]. They similarly mock the eulogy at his funeral which says that while Ernest has died, his legacy would live on and it was through his family, friends and good deeds that he had achieved immortality.

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* ''Film/Bloodshot2020'': While Harting has spent the film manipulating Ray's memory to ensure the most brutal results in his assassinations (making Ray believe the people he's targeting killed his wife), when Ray finally gets a chance to confront Harting about his actions, Harting appears almost surprised at the notion that Ray would dislike being used in this manner. He explicitly states that Ray must have joined the military just for the chance to be violent, overlooking the more positive motives someone might have for joining the armed forces, such as to protect the innocent or their friends and family.



* ''Film/TheDevilsAdvocate'': John Milton [[spoiler:aka {{Satan}}]] succeeds in the beginning because he is expert in manipulating Kevin's vanity and ego. [[spoiler: He also thought Kevin would forget that he raped his wife and would lust after his demon half-sister. Ultimately Kevin loved his wife more and was selfless enough to kill himself rather than create the Anti-Christ, which literally makes Milton [[VillainousBreakdown explode]]. And when Kevin is brought back to life, Milton sees Kevin's new moral stance as just another form of vanity he can manipulate]].

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* ''Film/TheDevilsAdvocate'': John Milton [[spoiler:aka {{Satan}}]] succeeds in the beginning because he is an expert in manipulating Kevin's vanity and ego. [[spoiler: He also thought Kevin would forget that he raped his wife and would lust after his demon half-sister. Ultimately Kevin loved his wife more and was selfless enough to kill himself rather than create the Anti-Christ, which literally makes Milton [[VillainousBreakdown explode]]. And when Kevin is brought back to life, Milton sees Kevin's new moral stance as just another form of vanity he can manipulate]].
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** ''Film/ANewHope'': [[EarthShatteringKaboom Alderaan gets destroyed]] by Grand Moff Tarkin as a warning to star systems thinking of opposing the Empire or sympathizing with the Rebel Alliance. It has the opposite effect, making many systems more sympathetic to the Rebellion, and in the expanded universe, it even sparked a mass defection by Alderaan-born Imperial officers. Leia even told him "The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers..." Of course, he wasn't expecting the Death Star, whose power he was using Alderaan as a demonstration for, to be destroyed shortly afterward. It's hammered home even more in the Radio/StarWarsRadioDramas, where Leia declares that using the Death Star to destroy Alderaan isn't just a MoralEventHorizon for the Empire in general and Tarkin in particular, but is also a sure sign that the Empire is doomed.

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** ''Film/ANewHope'': [[EarthShatteringKaboom Alderaan gets destroyed]] by Grand Moff Tarkin as a warning to star systems thinking of opposing the Empire or sympathizing with the Rebel Alliance. [[MachiavelliWasWrong It has the opposite effect, effect]], making many systems more sympathetic to the Rebellion, and in the expanded universe, it even sparked a mass defection by Alderaan-born Imperial officers. Leia even told him "The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers..." Of course, he wasn't expecting the Death Star, whose power he was using Alderaan as a demonstration for, to be destroyed shortly afterward. It's hammered home even more in the Radio/StarWarsRadioDramas, where Leia declares that using the Death Star to destroy Alderaan isn't just a MoralEventHorizon for the Empire in general and Tarkin in particular, but is also a sure sign that the Empire is doomed. Even '''''[[EvenEvilHasStandards Palpatine]]''''' was shocked when he learned that Tarkin had destroyed Alderaan with the Death Star, later citing that while he had signed off on Tarkin using '''''a''''' planet [[PragmaticVillainy as a demonstration to the Galaxy about the Death Stars' power]], he didn't expect Alderaan to be that destroyed planet since The Dark Lord of The Sith knew of [[OneHundredPercentAdorationRating Alderaans' reputation and significance to the Galaxy at large]] that he knew it would be grossly idiotic to have Alderaan destroyed by the Empire like it was.
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** ''Film/AttackOfTheClones'': The EvilutionaryBiologist Kaminoans cannot understand why Jango would want an unaltered son to raise.

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* ''Film/FallingDown'': Nick, a crazed, homophobic Neo-Nazi, hears about D-Fens' [[GoingPostal antics]] and assumes that he [[NotSoDifferentRemark is a crazed racist like him]], rather than a man having a nervous breakdown. He flips out when D-Fens tells him off.


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* ''Film/{{Highlander}}'': Comes up in a DeletedScene (the footage of this scene was sadly destroyed in a fire and only a few promotional stills remain). The Kurgan tracks down an immortal named Yung Dol Kim, living a lonely existence as a security guard in a multi-storey carpark, and has a brief sword fight with him. Suddenly, Kim throws down his swords and exposes his neck, urging the Kurgan to GetItOverWith. He explains that he was born in Korea in 1580, that all of his loved ones are long-dead and he has no will or reason to keep playing [[ThereCanBeOnlyOne the Game]]. Before the Kurgan claims his head, he hesitates and looks taken aback by his words; as an insane barbarian hedonist relishing an immortal life of consequence-free ForeverWar, he cannot understand why anybody would [[WhoWantsToLiveForever think immortality was a bad thing]].

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