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However rare it is, "Q Fanon" people who genuinely blame Sam and Jared Padalecki for the lack of Destiel is a thing that happens, and worth documenting with that note (the old entry did seem like biased complaining given it contradicted an earlier entry on how Sam wasnt a recipient of this reaction, and even as a non-fan of the show I could see plain as day that most Destiel fic does not demonize Sam. Otherwise, you're not wrong that, as a non-member of the fandom it's still clear as day that the vast majority of Destiel content treats Sam as a supportive friend and not this trope. Agreed on deleting the last entry, which is more complaining about being turned into Ship Mates and therefore misuse that doesn't belong here. As for the Dean entry, it's too poorly written with grammar problems out the wazoo, and it's written from an obviously biased perspective when entries like these are meant to describe fandom behaviors in an impartial way.
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* Dean gets hate from some people who prefer to pair off Castiel with someone other than him, due to him being the one Castiel's canonically in love with and him also having done some occasional jerkish things to Castiel like telling Castiel that he was dead to him after his mother died for the second time even though it wasn't directly Castiel's fault (that he later gave a heartfelt apology to Castiel for), which causes him to be written as an irredeemable asshole or abusive ex in several fics who want to position Sam, Mick, or someone else as the better boyfriend for Castiel. He's also not free of bashing in other Sam pairing fics written by Sam fans who view Sam as a saintly woobie and Dean as a gigantic jerk who does nothing but belittle and mistreat Sam.
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It's actually extremely rare for Sam to be bashed in Dean/Cas fic, especially when compared to Sam/Dean fic that just outright ignores Castiel or Sam/Cas fic that bashes Dean (not all that often, but still more than the former).
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* A notable aversion of this trope came when Eileen was introduced in later seasons as Sam's love interest. Fans were considerably less hostile towards her than they had been to other past female love interests and she became relatively well-liked as a capable hunter who also gave the show some rare disabled representation as a deaf person who used ASL. Many fans even got upset on her behalf when [[spoiler:the series finale showed Sam marrying a generic unnamed woman, with them [[FanonDiscontinuity collectively choosing]] to headcanon that Eileen was the one he married]]. Sam's first girlfriend Jess was also pretty well-liked by fans, although it helped her case significantly that she [[WeHardlyKnewYe died in the very first episode]] and thus was never a true threat to any other Sam pairing.
* There are some factions of Dean/Cas shippers who have some serious hatred for Sam, perceiving him to be the reason Dean and Cas never got together. While the show was still running, this group wanted Sam to be KilledOffForReal or written out somehow so that Cas could fill his role (despite Sam being the {{Protagonist}} around which most of the plot revolves). In the time since the series finale, some of this hostility has even spilled over to Sam's actor, Jared Padalecki, who they perceive as somehow "blocking" the ship for his own purposes. In other corners of fandom, this has become known as "[=QFanon=]", as there is no evidence Jared ever had the ability, let alone the inclination, to alter the plot in that way.
* Because of Sam and Dean's HeterosexualLifePartners status in the show, Dean/Cas writers often struggle with how to write Sam in their fics. Common go-tos are to either portray Sam as an abusive villain that Dean needs to get away from; as a one-dimensional ShipperOnDeck cheerleader; kill Sam off completely, or toss him into a PairTheSpares relationship to get him out of the way. This last can be particularly frustrating for Sam/Eileen, Sam/Gabriel, and even Sam/Lucifer shippers, who have to sift through Dean/Cas content to find content that's actually about those ships.
** While it's easier for Sam/Dean writers to work around Cas, who was not always present in the show, some writers have a similar PairTheSpares propensity with Cas/Meg or Cas/Gabriel, to the frustration of those who ship them outright.
* There are some factions of Dean/Cas shippers who have some serious hatred for Sam, perceiving him to be the reason Dean and Cas never got together. While the show was still running, this group wanted Sam to be KilledOffForReal or written out somehow so that Cas could fill his role (despite Sam being the {{Protagonist}} around which most of the plot revolves). In the time since the series finale, some of this hostility has even spilled over to Sam's actor, Jared Padalecki, who they perceive as somehow "blocking" the ship for his own purposes. In other corners of fandom, this has become known as "[=QFanon=]", as there is no evidence Jared ever had the ability, let alone the inclination, to alter the plot in that way.
* Because of Sam and Dean's HeterosexualLifePartners status in the show, Dean/Cas writers often struggle with how to write Sam in their fics. Common go-tos are to either portray Sam as an abusive villain that Dean needs to get away from; as a one-dimensional ShipperOnDeck cheerleader; kill Sam off completely, or toss him into a PairTheSpares relationship to get him out of the way. This last can be particularly frustrating for Sam/Eileen, Sam/Gabriel, and even Sam/Lucifer shippers, who have to sift through Dean/Cas content to find content that's actually about those ships.
** While it's easier for Sam/Dean writers to work around Cas, who was not always present in the show, some writers have a similar PairTheSpares propensity with Cas/Meg or Cas/Gabriel, to the frustration of those who ship them outright.
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* Dean gets hate from some people who prefer to pair off Castiel with someone other than him, due to him being the one Castiel's canonically in love with and him also having done some occasional jerkish things to Castiel like telling Castiel that he was dead to him after his mother died for the second time even though it wasn't directly Castiel's fault (that he later gave a heartfelt apology to Castiel for), which causes him to be written as an irredeemable asshole or abusive ex in several fics who want to position Sam, Mick, or someone else as the better boyfriend for Castiel. He's also not free of bashing in other Sam pairing fics written by Sam fans who view Sam as a saintly woobie and Dean as a gigantic jerk who does nothing but belittle and mistreat Sam.
* A notable aversion of this trope came when Eileen was introduced in later seasons as Sam's love interest. Fans were considerably less hostile towards her than they had been to other past female love interests and she became relatively well-liked as a capable hunter who also gave the show some rare disabled representation as a deaf person who used ASL. Many fans even got upset on her behalf when [[spoiler:the series finale showed Sam marrying a generic unnamed woman, with them [[FanonDiscontinuity collectively choosing]] to headcanon that Eileen was the one he married]]. Sam's first girlfriend Jess was also pretty well-liked by fans, although it helped her case significantly that she [[WeHardlyKnewYe died in the very first episode]] and thus was never a true threat to any other Sampairing.
* There are some factions of Dean/Cas shippers who have some serious hatred for Sam, perceiving him to be the reason Dean and Cas never got together. While the show was still running, this group wanted Sam to be KilledOffForReal or written out somehow so that Cas could fill his role (despite Sam being the {{Protagonist}} around which most of the plot revolves). In the time since the series finale, some of this hostility has even spilled over to Sam's actor, Jared Padalecki, who they perceive as somehow "blocking" the ship for his own purposes. In other corners of fandom, this has become known as "[=QFanon=]", as there is no evidence Jared ever had the ability, let alone the inclination, to alter the plot in that way.
* Because of Sam and Dean's HeterosexualLifePartners status in the show, Dean/Cas writers often struggle with how to write Sam in their fics. Common go-tos are to either portray Sam as an abusive villain that Dean needs to get away from; as a one-dimensional ShipperOnDeck cheerleader; kill Sam off completely, or toss him into a PairTheSpares relationship to get him out of the way. This last can be particularly frustrating for Sam/Eileen, Sam/Gabriel, and even Sam/Lucifer shippers, who have to sift through Dean/Cas content to find content that's actually about those ships.
** While it's easier for Sam/Dean writers to work around Cas, who was not always present in the show, some writers have a similar PairTheSpares propensity with Cas/Meg or Cas/Gabriel, to the frustration of those who ship them outright.pairing.
* A notable aversion of this trope came when Eileen was introduced in later seasons as Sam's love interest. Fans were considerably less hostile towards her than they had been to other past female love interests and she became relatively well-liked as a capable hunter who also gave the show some rare disabled representation as a deaf person who used ASL. Many fans even got upset on her behalf when [[spoiler:the series finale showed Sam marrying a generic unnamed woman, with them [[FanonDiscontinuity collectively choosing]] to headcanon that Eileen was the one he married]]. Sam's first girlfriend Jess was also pretty well-liked by fans, although it helped her case significantly that she [[WeHardlyKnewYe died in the very first episode]] and thus was never a true threat to any other Sam
* There are some factions of Dean/Cas shippers who have some serious hatred for Sam, perceiving him to be the reason Dean and Cas never got together. While the show was still running, this group wanted Sam to be KilledOffForReal or written out somehow so that Cas could fill his role (despite Sam being the {{Protagonist}} around which most of the plot revolves). In the time since the series finale, some of this hostility has even spilled over to Sam's actor, Jared Padalecki, who they perceive as somehow "blocking" the ship for his own purposes. In other corners of fandom, this has become known as "[=QFanon=]", as there is no evidence Jared ever had the ability, let alone the inclination, to alter the plot in that way.
* Because of Sam and Dean's HeterosexualLifePartners status in the show, Dean/Cas writers often struggle with how to write Sam in their fics. Common go-tos are to either portray Sam as an abusive villain that Dean needs to get away from; as a one-dimensional ShipperOnDeck cheerleader; kill Sam off completely, or toss him into a PairTheSpares relationship to get him out of the way. This last can be particularly frustrating for Sam/Eileen, Sam/Gabriel, and even Sam/Lucifer shippers, who have to sift through Dean/Cas content to find content that's actually about those ships.
** While it's easier for Sam/Dean writers to work around Cas, who was not always present in the show, some writers have a similar PairTheSpares propensity with Cas/Meg or Cas/Gabriel, to the frustration of those who ship them outright.
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* There are some factions of Dean/Cas shippers who have some serious hatred for Sam, perceiving him to be the reason Dean and Cas never got together. While the show was still running, this group wanted Sam to be KilledOffForReal or written out somehow so that Cas could fill his role (despite Sam being the {{Protagonist}} around which most of the plot revolves). In the time since the series finale, some of this hostility has even spilled over to Sam's actor, Jared Padalecki, who they perceive as somehow "blocking" the ship for his own purposes. In other corners of fandom, this has become known as "QFanon", as there is no evidence Jared ever had the ability, let alone the inclination, to alter the plot in that way.
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* There are some factions of Dean/Cas shippers who have some serious hatred for Sam, perceiving him to be the reason Dean and Cas never got together. While the show was still running, this group wanted Sam to be KilledOffForReal or written out somehow so that Cas could fill his role (despite Sam being the {{Protagonist}} around which most of the plot revolves). In the time since the series finale, some of this hostility has even spilled over to Sam's actor, Jared Padalecki, who they perceive as somehow "blocking" the ship for his own purposes. In other corners of fandom, this has become known as "QFanon", "[=QFanon=]", as there is no evidence Jared ever had the ability, let alone the inclination, to alter the plot in that way.
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* A notable aversion of this trope came when Eileen was introduced in later seasons as Sam's love interest. Fans were considerably less hostile towards her than they had been to other past female love interests and she became relatively well-liked as a capable hunter who also gave the show some rare disabled representation as a deaf person who used ASL. Many fans even got upset on her behalf when [[spoiler:the series finale showed Sam marrying a generic unnamed woman, with them [[FanonDiscontinuity collectively choosing]] to headcanon that Eileen was the one he married]]. Sam's first girlfriend Jess was also pretty well-liked by fans, although it helped her case significantly that she [[StuffedIntoTheFridge died in the very first episode]] and thus was never a true threat to any other Sam pairing.
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* A notable aversion of this trope came when Eileen was introduced in later seasons as Sam's love interest. Fans were considerably less hostile towards her than they had been to other past female love interests and she became relatively well-liked as a capable hunter who also gave the show some rare disabled representation as a deaf person who used ASL. Many fans even got upset on her behalf when [[spoiler:the series finale showed Sam marrying a generic unnamed woman, with them [[FanonDiscontinuity collectively choosing]] to headcanon that Eileen was the one he married]]. Sam's first girlfriend Jess was also pretty well-liked by fans, although it helped her case significantly that she [[StuffedIntoTheFridge [[WeHardlyKnewYe died in the very first episode]] and thus was never a true threat to any other Sam pairing.
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* Because of Sam and Dean's HeterosexualLifePartners status in the show, Dean/Cas writers often struggle with how to write Sam in their fics. Common go-tos are to either portray Sam as an abusive villain that Dean needs to get away from; as a one-dimensional ShipperOnDeck cheerleader; kill Sam off completely, or toss him into a PairTheSpares relationship to get him out of the way. This last can be particularly frustrating for Sam/Eileen, Sam/Gabriel, and even Sam/Lucifer shippers, who have to sift through Dean/Cas content to find content that's actually about those ships.
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* Because of Sam and Dean's HeterosexualLifePartners status in the show, Dean/Cas writers often struggle with how to write Sam in their fics. Common go-tos are to either portray Sam as an abusive villain that Dean needs to get away from; as a one-dimensional ShipperOnDeck cheerleader; kill Sam off completely, or toss him into a PairTheSpares relationship to get him out of the way. This last can be particularly frustrating for Sam/Eileen, Sam/Gabriel, and even Sam/Lucifer shippers, who have to sift through Dean/Cas content to find content that's actually about those ships.ships.
** While it's easier for Sam/Dean writers to work around Cas, who was not always present in the show, some writers have a similar PairTheSpares propensity with Cas/Meg or Cas/Gabriel, to the frustration of those who ship them outright.
** While it's easier for Sam/Dean writers to work around Cas, who was not always present in the show, some writers have a similar PairTheSpares propensity with Cas/Meg or Cas/Gabriel, to the frustration of those who ship them outright.
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* There are some factions of Dean/Cas shippers who have some serious hatred for Sam, perceiving him to be the reason Dean and Cas never got together. While the show was still running, this group wanted Sam to be KilledOffForReal or written out somehow so that Cas could fill his role (despite Sam bring the {{Protagonist}} around which most of the plot revolves). In the time since the series finale, some of this hostility has even spilled over to Sam's actor, Jared Padalecki, who they perceive as somehow "blocking" the ship for his own purposes. In other corners of fandom, this has become known as "QFanon", as there is no evidence Jared ever had the ability, let alone the inclination, to alter the plot in that way.
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* There are some factions of Dean/Cas shippers who have some serious hatred for Sam, perceiving him to be the reason Dean and Cas never got together. While the show was still running, this group wanted Sam to be KilledOffForReal or written out somehow so that Cas could fill his role (despite Sam bring being the {{Protagonist}} around which most of the plot revolves). In the time since the series finale, some of this hostility has even spilled over to Sam's actor, Jared Padalecki, who they perceive as somehow "blocking" the ship for his own purposes. In other corners of fandom, this has become known as "QFanon", as there is no evidence Jared ever had the ability, let alone the inclination, to alter the plot in that way.
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* There are some factions of Dean/Cas shippers who have some serious hatred for Sam, perceiving him to be the reason Dean and Cas never got together. While the show was still running, this group wanted Sam to be KilledOffForReal or written out somehow so that Cas could fill his role (despite Sam bring the {{Protagonist}} around which most of the plot revolves). In the time since the series finale, some of this hostility has even spilled over to Sam's actor, Jared Padalecki, who they perceive as somehow "blocking" the ship for his own purposes. In other corners of fandom, this has become known as "QFanon", as there is no evidence Jared ever had the ability, let alone the inclination, to alter the plot in that way.
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* There are some factions of Dean/Cas shippers who have some serious hatred for Sam, perceiving him to be the reason Dean and Cas never got together. While the show was still running, this group wanted Sam to be KilledOffForReal or written out somehow so that Cas could fill his role (despite Sam bring the {{Protagonist}} around which most of the plot revolves). In the time since the series finale, some of this hostility has even spilled over to Sam's actor, Jared Padalecki, who they perceive as somehow "blocking" the ship for his own purposes. In other corners of fandom, this has become known as "QFanon", as there is no evidence Jared ever had the ability, let alone the inclination, to alter the plot in that way.way.
* Because of Sam and Dean's HeterosexualLifePartners status in the show, Dean/Cas writers often struggle with how to write Sam in their fics. Common go-tos are to either portray Sam as an abusive villain that Dean needs to get away from; as a one-dimensional ShipperOnDeck cheerleader; kill Sam off completely, or toss him into a PairTheSpares relationship to get him out of the way. This last can be particularly frustrating for Sam/Eileen, Sam/Gabriel, and even Sam/Lucifer shippers, who have to sift through Dean/Cas content to find content that's actually about those ships.
* Because of Sam and Dean's HeterosexualLifePartners status in the show, Dean/Cas writers often struggle with how to write Sam in their fics. Common go-tos are to either portray Sam as an abusive villain that Dean needs to get away from; as a one-dimensional ShipperOnDeck cheerleader; kill Sam off completely, or toss him into a PairTheSpares relationship to get him out of the way. This last can be particularly frustrating for Sam/Eileen, Sam/Gabriel, and even Sam/Lucifer shippers, who have to sift through Dean/Cas content to find content that's actually about those ships.
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* There are some factions of Dean/Cas shippers who have some serious hatred for Sam, perceiving him to be the reason Dean and Cas never got together. While the show was still running, this group wanted Sam to be KilledOffForReal or written out somehow so that Cas could fill his role (despite Sam bring the {{Protagonist}}baround which most of the plot revolves). In the time since the series finale, some of this hostility has even spilled over to Sam's actor, Jared Padalecki, who they perceive as somehow "blocking" the ship for his own purposes. In other corners of fandom, this has become known as "QFanon", as there is no evidence Jared ever had the ability, let alone the inclination, to alter the plot in that way.
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* There are some factions of Dean/Cas shippers who have some serious hatred for Sam, perceiving him to be the reason Dean and Cas never got together. While the show was still running, this group wanted Sam to be KilledOffForReal or written out somehow so that Cas could fill his role (despite Sam bring the {{Protagonist}}baround {{Protagonist}} around which most of the plot revolves). In the time since the series finale, some of this hostility has even spilled over to Sam's actor, Jared Padalecki, who they perceive as somehow "blocking" the ship for his own purposes. In other corners of fandom, this has become known as "QFanon", as there is no evidence Jared ever had the ability, let alone the inclination, to alter the plot in that way.
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* A notable aversion of this trope came when Eileen was introduced in later seasons as Sam's love interest. Fans were considerably less hostile towards her than they had been to other past female love interests and she became relatively well-liked as a capable hunter who also gave the show some rare disabled representation as a deaf person who used ASL. Many fans even got upset on her behalf when [[spoiler:the series finale showed Sam marrying a generic unnamed woman, with them [[FanonDiscontinuity collectively choosing]] to headcanon that Eileen was the one he married]]. Sam's first girlfriend Jess was also pretty well-liked by fans, although it helped her case significantly that she [[StuffedIntoTheFridge died in the very first episode]] and thus was never a true threat to any other Sam pairing.
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* A notable aversion of this trope came when Eileen was introduced in later seasons as Sam's love interest. Fans were considerably less hostile towards her than they had been to other past female love interests and she became relatively well-liked as a capable hunter who also gave the show some rare disabled representation as a deaf person who used ASL. Many fans even got upset on her behalf when [[spoiler:the series finale showed Sam marrying a generic unnamed woman, with them [[FanonDiscontinuity collectively choosing]] to headcanon that Eileen was the one he married]]. Sam's first girlfriend Jess was also pretty well-liked by fans, although it helped her case significantly that she [[StuffedIntoTheFridge died in the very first episode]] and thus was never a true threat to any other Sam pairing.pairing.
* There are some factions of Dean/Cas shippers who have some serious hatred for Sam, perceiving him to be the reason Dean and Cas never got together. While the show was still running, this group wanted Sam to be KilledOffForReal or written out somehow so that Cas could fill his role (despite Sam bring the {{Protagonist}}baround which most of the plot revolves). In the time since the series finale, some of this hostility has even spilled over to Sam's actor, Jared Padalecki, who they perceive as somehow "blocking" the ship for his own purposes. In other corners of fandom, this has become known as "QFanon", as there is no evidence Jared ever had the ability, let alone the inclination, to alter the plot in that way.
* There are some factions of Dean/Cas shippers who have some serious hatred for Sam, perceiving him to be the reason Dean and Cas never got together. While the show was still running, this group wanted Sam to be KilledOffForReal or written out somehow so that Cas could fill his role (despite Sam bring the {{Protagonist}}baround which most of the plot revolves). In the time since the series finale, some of this hostility has even spilled over to Sam's actor, Jared Padalecki, who they perceive as somehow "blocking" the ship for his own purposes. In other corners of fandom, this has become known as "QFanon", as there is no evidence Jared ever had the ability, let alone the inclination, to alter the plot in that way.
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* Anna, a fallen angel introduced in season 4, got instant hate for being a potential love interest for Dean until she was brainwashed into turning against the heroes and then killed off.
* Lisa, the woman Dean temporarily settled down with after season 5, got the expected hate from Sam/Dean and Dean/Castiel fans until she and Dean broke up and her memories of him were wiped.
* Meg and Hannah, the former who took Castiel's first kiss and the latter who developed a crush on him, got the expected hate from Dean/Castiel fans until they -- you guessed it -- were killed off. April also got a lot of hate for being the one who took Castiel's virginity, although the hate for her ''was'' pretty justified by her only initiating the sex to have the opportunity to kill him the morning after.
* [[DoubleStandard In stark contrast]] to the long list of female characters who got hated on for getting too close to any one of the male leads, pretty much the only male character who gets a noticeable amount of ship-related hatred is Castiel, from Sam/Dean fans who resent him for causing the majority of fandom to swing from supporting their ship to supporting Dean/Castiel instead and claim that he gets too much screentime at the expense of Sam and Dean's dynamic, or that he should have stayed dead after [[DeathIsCheap any of the six times he temporarily died]], or even that him [[spoiler:being confirmed to be in love with Dean]] somehow retroactively ruins his character. Even then, though, the hatred he gets is ''nowhere'' near as virulent as the hatred for any of the above-mentioned female characters was with him being popular enough in the fandom at large to stay on the show for much, much longer than any of these female characters got to.
* Lisa, the woman Dean temporarily settled down with after season 5, got the expected hate from Sam/Dean and Dean/Castiel fans until she and Dean broke up and her memories of him were wiped.
* Meg and Hannah, the former who took Castiel's first kiss and the latter who developed a crush on him, got the expected hate from Dean/Castiel fans until they -- you guessed it -- were killed off. April also got a lot of hate for being the one who took Castiel's virginity, although the hate for her ''was'' pretty justified by her only initiating the sex to have the opportunity to kill him the morning after.
* [[DoubleStandard In stark contrast]] to the long list of female characters who got hated on for getting too close to any one of the male leads, pretty much the only male character who gets a noticeable amount of ship-related hatred is Castiel, from Sam/Dean fans who resent him for causing the majority of fandom to swing from supporting their ship to supporting Dean/Castiel instead and claim that he gets too much screentime at the expense of Sam and Dean's dynamic, or that he should have stayed dead after [[DeathIsCheap any of the six times he temporarily died]], or even that him [[spoiler:being confirmed to be in love with Dean]] somehow retroactively ruins his character. Even then, though, the hatred he gets is ''nowhere'' near as virulent as the hatred for any of the above-mentioned female characters was with him being popular enough in the fandom at large to stay on the show for much, much longer than any of these female characters got to.
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* Anna, a fallen angel introduced in season 4, got instant hate for being getting ShipTease and a potential love interest for kiss with Dean until she was brainwashed into turning against the heroes and then killed off.
*Lisa, Lisa came under fire from both Sam/Dean and Dean/Castiel fans for being the woman Dean temporarily settled down with after season 5, got 5 especially since, unlike Dean's usual [[GirlOfTheWeek casual flings]], his relationship with her was fairly serious and fics written during the expected hate from Sam/Dean hiatus between seasons 5 and Dean/Castiel fans until she and 6 couldn't logically pair off Dean broke with someone else without finding some way to get Lisa out of the picture. Like with all of Dean's relationships on the show, though, it didn't last with them breaking up and her getting her memories of him were wiped.
wiped for her safety.
*Meg After Lisa, the show pretty much stopped trying to give Dean female love interests... but it decided to try to give Castiel some instead, which predictably did not go over well with both Dean/Castiel fans and fans who headcanoned Castiel as asexual. The first attempt at this was with Meg, who had managed to largely avoid fan hate in earlier seasons where she was a sadistic demon who got off on torturing others but got missiles aimed at her the moment she kissed Castiel and he even kissed back. It didn't matter to these fans that she also underwent some major CharacterDevelopment during the same season and became a more sympathetic character than she was in earlier seasons; they just wanted her ''gone'' for having the temerity to kiss Castiel, and they got their wish when she was killed off.
* The other major attempt by the show to give Castiel a female love interest was Hannah,the former who took Castiel's first kiss and the latter an angel who developed a crush on him while working with him, got although the expected hate from Dean/Castiel fans until they -- you guessed it -- were didn't get quite as out of hand this time as the crush was shown to be one-sided on her part and she returned to Heaven after her story arc was over. And then she got killed off. off (noticing a trend here?).
* April also got a lot of hate for being the one Castiel lost his virginity to. Although in her case, she turned out to be a reaper whotook Castiel's virginity, although the hate for her ''was'' pretty justified by her only initiating the sex to have the opportunity to kill killed him the morning after.
after, so fans did have more justified reasons to hate her.
* Amelia, Sam's love interest in season 8, fared no better than any of the male leads' past love interests. It didn't help that her romance with Sam was the main reason he didn't concentrate on finding a way to rescue Dean from Purgatory which many fans felt was majorly OutOfCharacter for him.
* [[DoubleStandard In stark contrast]] to the long list of female characters who got hated on for getting too close to any one of the male leads, pretty much the only male character who gets a noticeable amount of ship-related hatred is Castiel, from Sam/Dean fans who resent him for causing the majority of fandom to swing from supporting their ship to supporting Dean/Castiel instead and claim that he gets too much screentime at the expense of Sam and Dean's dynamic, or that he should have stayed dead after [[DeathIsCheap any of thesix numerous times he temporarily died]], or even that [[spoiler:the final season confirming him [[spoiler:being confirmed to be in love with Dean]] somehow retroactively ruins his character. Even then, though, the hatred he gets is ''nowhere'' near as virulent as the hatred for any of the above-mentioned female characters was with him being popular enough in the fandom at large to stay on the show for much, much longer than any of these female characters got to.
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* The other major attempt by the show to give Castiel a female love interest was Hannah,
* April also got a lot of hate for being the one Castiel lost his virginity to. Although in her case, she turned out to be a reaper who
* Amelia, Sam's love interest in season 8, fared no better than any of the male leads' past love interests. It didn't help that her romance with Sam was the main reason he didn't concentrate on finding a way to rescue Dean from Purgatory which many fans felt was majorly OutOfCharacter for him.
* [[DoubleStandard In stark contrast]] to the long list of female characters who got hated on for getting too close to any one of the male leads, pretty much the only male character who gets a noticeable amount of ship-related hatred is Castiel, from Sam/Dean fans who resent him for causing the majority of fandom to swing from supporting their ship to supporting Dean/Castiel instead and claim that he gets too much screentime at the expense of Sam and Dean's dynamic, or that he should have stayed dead after [[DeathIsCheap any of the
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* [[DoubleStandard In stark contrast]] to the long list of female characters who got hated on for getting too close to any one of the male leads, pretty much the only male character who gets a noticeable amount of ship-related hatred is Castiel, from Sam/Dean fans who resent him for causing the majority of fandom to swing from supporting their ship to supporting Dean/Castiel instead and claim that he gets too much screentime at the expense of Sam and Dean's dynamic, or that he should have stayed dead after [[DeathIsCheap any of the six times he temporarily died]], or even that him [[spoiler:confessing his love to Dean to [[HeroicSacrifice save Dean's life at the expense of his own]]]] in the final season somehow retroactively ruins his character. Even then, though, the hatred he gets is ''nowhere'' near as virulent as the hatred for any of the above-mentioned female characters was with him being popular enough in the fandom at large to stay on the show for much, much longer than any of these female characters got to.
* Way back during seasons 4-6, Sam got villainized in some Dean/Castiel fics based on him being on bad terms with Dean for a good chunk of season 5 after he [[NiceJobBreakingItHero got tricked into starting the Apocalypse]] and then being [[CameBackWrong soulless and amoral]] for a good chunk of season 6 (even though he made up for his season 4-5 actions by sacrificing himself to seal away Lucifer and being soulless in season 6 was hardly his fault). This trend was common enough that at least one Dean/Castiel shipper [[MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch criticized it]] in a [[https://archiveofourown.org/works/151686 meta fic]]. However, the Sam hate died out after he got his soul back and the interpretation of him as a ShipperOnDeck for Dean and Castiel who [[EveryoneCanSeeIt cottons on to their UST long before they do]] became popular during later seasons where he got more friendly scenes with Castiel. Nowadays, while Dean/Castiel fans are still locked in ShipToShipCombat with Sam/Dean fans, they don't mind Sam on his own and are happy to portray him in their fics as a good brother/friend to Dean and Castiel who often [[ShipMates gets paired off with Gabriel, Jess, or Eileen]]
* A notable aversion of this trope came when Eileen was introduced in later seasons as Sam's love interest. Fans were considerably less hostile towards her than they had been to other past female love interests and she became relatively well-liked as a capable hunter who also gave the show some rare disabled representation as a deaf person who used ASL... although it's worth noting that fans almost certainly wouldn't have been as accepting of her if she had been set up as Dean or Castiel's love interest instead, as a not-insignificant reason for Sam/Eileen's popularity is that it's a good [[ShipMates Ship Mate]] for Dean/Castiel, whose shippers had become a lot more numerous and vocal than Sam/Dean's by the time of Eileen's introduction.
* Way back during seasons 4-6, Sam got villainized in some Dean/Castiel fics based on him being on bad terms with Dean for a good chunk of season 5 after he [[NiceJobBreakingItHero got tricked into starting the Apocalypse]] and then being [[CameBackWrong soulless and amoral]] for a good chunk of season 6 (even though he made up for his season 4-5 actions by sacrificing himself to seal away Lucifer and being soulless in season 6 was hardly his fault). This trend was common enough that at least one Dean/Castiel shipper [[MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch criticized it]] in a [[https://archiveofourown.org/works/151686 meta fic]]. However, the Sam hate died out after he got his soul back and the interpretation of him as a ShipperOnDeck for Dean and Castiel who [[EveryoneCanSeeIt cottons on to their UST long before they do]] became popular during later seasons where he got more friendly scenes with Castiel. Nowadays, while Dean/Castiel fans are still locked in ShipToShipCombat with Sam/Dean fans, they don't mind Sam on his own and are happy to portray him in their fics as a good brother/friend to Dean and Castiel who often [[ShipMates gets paired off with Gabriel, Jess, or Eileen]]
* A notable aversion of this trope came when Eileen was introduced in later seasons as Sam's love interest. Fans were considerably less hostile towards her than they had been to other past female love interests and she became relatively well-liked as a capable hunter who also gave the show some rare disabled representation as a deaf person who used ASL... although it's worth noting that fans almost certainly wouldn't have been as accepting of her if she had been set up as Dean or Castiel's love interest instead, as a not-insignificant reason for Sam/Eileen's popularity is that it's a good [[ShipMates Ship Mate]] for Dean/Castiel, whose shippers had become a lot more numerous and vocal than Sam/Dean's by the time of Eileen's introduction.
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* [[DoubleStandard In stark contrast]] to the long list of female characters who got hated on for getting too close to any one of the male leads, pretty much the only male character who gets a noticeable amount of ship-related hatred is Castiel, from Sam/Dean fans who resent him for causing the majority of fandom to swing from supporting their ship to supporting Dean/Castiel instead and claim that he gets too much screentime at the expense of Sam and Dean's dynamic, or that he should have stayed dead after [[DeathIsCheap any of the six times he temporarily died]], or even that him [[spoiler:confessing his [[spoiler:being confirmed to be in love to Dean to [[HeroicSacrifice save Dean's life at the expense of his own]]]] in the final season with Dean]] somehow retroactively ruins his character. Even then, though, the hatred he gets is ''nowhere'' near as virulent as the hatred for any of the above-mentioned female characters was with him being popular enough in the fandom at large to stay on the show for much, much longer than any of these female characters got to.
* Way back during seasons 4-6, Sam got villainized in some Dean/Castiel fics based on him being on bad terms with Dean for a good chunk of season 5 after he [[NiceJobBreakingItHero got tricked into starting the Apocalypse]] and then being [[CameBackWrong soulless and amoral]] for a good chunk of season 6 (even though he made up for his season 4-5 actions by sacrificing himself to seal away Lucifer and being soulless in season 6 was hardly his fault). This trend was common enough that at least one Dean/Castiel shipper [[MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch criticized it]] in a [[https://archiveofourown.org/works/151686 meta fic]]. However, the Sam hate died out after he got his soul back and the interpretation of him as a ShipperOnDeck for Dean and Castiel who [[EveryoneCanSeeIt cottons on to their UST long before they do]] became popular during later seasons where he got more friendly scenes with Castiel. Nowadays, while Dean/Castiel fans are still locked in ShipToShipCombat with Sam/Dean fans, they don't mind Sam on his own and are happy to portray him in their fics as a good brother/friend to Dean and Castiel who often [[ShipMates gets paired off with Gabriel, Jess, orEileen]]
Eileen]].
* A notable aversion of this trope came when Eileen was introduced in later seasons as Sam's love interest. Fans were considerably less hostile towards her than they had been to other past female love interests and she became relatively well-liked as a capable hunter who also gave the show some rare disabled representation as a deaf person who usedASL... ASL. Many fans even got upset on her behalf when [[spoiler:the series finale showed Sam marrying a generic unnamed woman, with them [[FanonDiscontinuity collectively choosing]] to headcanon that Eileen was the one he married]]. Sam's first girlfriend Jess was also pretty well-liked by fans, although it's worth noting it helped her case significantly that fans almost certainly wouldn't have been as accepting of her if she had been set up as Dean or Castiel's love interest instead, as a not-insignificant reason for Sam/Eileen's popularity is that it's a good [[ShipMates Ship Mate]] for Dean/Castiel, whose shippers had become a lot more numerous [[StuffedIntoTheFridge died in the very first episode]] and vocal than Sam/Dean's by the time of Eileen's introduction.thus was never a true threat to any other Sam pairing.
* Way back during seasons 4-6, Sam got villainized in some Dean/Castiel fics based on him being on bad terms with Dean for a good chunk of season 5 after he [[NiceJobBreakingItHero got tricked into starting the Apocalypse]] and then being [[CameBackWrong soulless and amoral]] for a good chunk of season 6 (even though he made up for his season 4-5 actions by sacrificing himself to seal away Lucifer and being soulless in season 6 was hardly his fault). This trend was common enough that at least one Dean/Castiel shipper [[MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch criticized it]] in a [[https://archiveofourown.org/works/151686 meta fic]]. However, the Sam hate died out after he got his soul back and the interpretation of him as a ShipperOnDeck for Dean and Castiel who [[EveryoneCanSeeIt cottons on to their UST long before they do]] became popular during later seasons where he got more friendly scenes with Castiel. Nowadays, while Dean/Castiel fans are still locked in ShipToShipCombat with Sam/Dean fans, they don't mind Sam on his own and are happy to portray him in their fics as a good brother/friend to Dean and Castiel who often [[ShipMates gets paired off with Gabriel, Jess, or
* A notable aversion of this trope came when Eileen was introduced in later seasons as Sam's love interest. Fans were considerably less hostile towards her than they had been to other past female love interests and she became relatively well-liked as a capable hunter who also gave the show some rare disabled representation as a deaf person who used
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The ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'' fandom has become notorious for its [[HetIsEw negative reaction]] to recurring young female characters for interfering with the [[IncestYayShipping Bro Yay]] between Dean and Sam or, in later seasons, the HoYay between Dean and Castiel. The male characters, on the other hand, are treated much better... mostly.
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* The first female to be subjected to this trope was Cassie, a past girlfriend of Dean who he was shown to have been [[LadykillerInLove genuinely in love with]] until she broke up with him after he tried telling her about his hunter job. This is in spite of the episode she was in making it clear that their relationship had no chance of being rekindled and her not appearing again after that episode.
* Jo, who was set up as a female counterpart to and potential love interest for Dean in season 2, caused an uproar among the fans. The fans got their way and her character went through [[NearRapeExperience a humiliating experience]] before getting PutOnABus in "Born Under A Bad Sign". Tellingly, fans started liking her more the moment she stopped being a threat to their slash pairings by turning down Dean when she [[TheBusCameBack came back in season 5]] and then got KilledOffForReal to many fans' genuine sadness.
* Before Season 3 even began, fandom was already wanking about the introduction of Bela and Ruby which died down only after they were killed off. Although in Ruby's case, the hate for her ''was'' more justified than most examples of this trope as she was revealed to have been manipulating Sam from the start to trick him into starting the Apocalypse and their entire relationship thus had been based on her conning him.
* Anna, a fallen angel introduced in season 4, got instant hate for being a potential love interest for Dean until she was brainwashed into turning against the heroes and then killed off.
* Lisa, the woman Dean temporarily settled down with after season 5, got the expected hate from Sam/Dean and Dean/Castiel fans until she and Dean broke up and her memories of him were wiped.
* Meg and Hannah, the former who took Castiel's first kiss and the latter who developed a crush on him, got the expected hate from Dean/Castiel fans until they -- you guessed it -- were killed off. April also got a lot of hate for being the one who took Castiel's virginity, although the hate for her ''was'' pretty justified by her only initiating the sex to have the opportunity to kill him the morning after.
* [[DoubleStandard In stark contrast]] to the long list of female characters who got hated on for getting too close to any one of the male leads, pretty much the only male character who gets a noticeable amount of ship-related hatred is Castiel, from Sam/Dean fans who resent him for causing the majority of fandom to swing from supporting their ship to supporting Dean/Castiel instead and claim that he gets too much screentime at the expense of Sam and Dean's dynamic, or that he should have stayed dead after [[DeathIsCheap any of the six times he temporarily died]], or even that him [[spoiler:confessing his love to Dean to [[HeroicSacrifice save Dean's life at the expense of his own]]]] in the final season somehow retroactively ruins his character. Even then, though, the hatred he gets is ''nowhere'' near as virulent as the hatred for any of the above-mentioned female characters was with him being popular enough in the fandom at large to stay on the show for much, much longer than any of these female characters got to.
* Way back during seasons 4-6, Sam got villainized in some Dean/Castiel fics based on him being on bad terms with Dean for a good chunk of season 5 after he [[NiceJobBreakingItHero got tricked into starting the Apocalypse]] and then being [[CameBackWrong soulless and amoral]] for a good chunk of season 6 (even though he made up for his season 4-5 actions by sacrificing himself to seal away Lucifer and being soulless in season 6 was hardly his fault). This trend was common enough that at least one Dean/Castiel shipper [[MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch criticized it]] in a [[https://archiveofourown.org/works/151686 meta fic]]. However, the Sam hate died out after he got his soul back and the interpretation of him as a ShipperOnDeck for Dean and Castiel who [[EveryoneCanSeeIt cottons on to their UST long before they do]] became popular during later seasons where he got more friendly scenes with Castiel. Nowadays, while Dean/Castiel fans are still locked in ShipToShipCombat with Sam/Dean fans, they don't mind Sam on his own and are happy to portray him in their fics as a good brother/friend to Dean and Castiel who often [[ShipMates gets paired off with Gabriel, Jess, or Eileen]]
* A notable aversion of this trope came when Eileen was introduced in later seasons as Sam's love interest. Fans were considerably less hostile towards her than they had been to other past female love interests and she became relatively well-liked as a capable hunter who also gave the show some rare disabled representation as a deaf person who used ASL... although it's worth noting that fans almost certainly wouldn't have been as accepting of her if she had been set up as Dean or Castiel's love interest instead, as a not-insignificant reason for Sam/Eileen's popularity is that it's a good [[ShipMates Ship Mate]] for Dean/Castiel, whose shippers had become a lot more numerous and vocal than Sam/Dean's by the time of Eileen's introduction.
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* The first female to be subjected to this trope was Cassie, a past girlfriend of Dean who he was shown to have been [[LadykillerInLove genuinely in love with]] until she broke up with him after he tried telling her about his hunter job. This is in spite of the episode she was in making it clear that their relationship had no chance of being rekindled and her not appearing again after that episode.
* Jo, who was set up as a female counterpart to and potential love interest for Dean in season 2, caused an uproar among the fans. The fans got their way and her character went through [[NearRapeExperience a humiliating experience]] before getting PutOnABus in "Born Under A Bad Sign". Tellingly, fans started liking her more the moment she stopped being a threat to their slash pairings by turning down Dean when she [[TheBusCameBack came back in season 5]] and then got KilledOffForReal to many fans' genuine sadness.
* Before Season 3 even began, fandom was already wanking about the introduction of Bela and Ruby which died down only after they were killed off. Although in Ruby's case, the hate for her ''was'' more justified than most examples of this trope as she was revealed to have been manipulating Sam from the start to trick him into starting the Apocalypse and their entire relationship thus had been based on her conning him.
* Anna, a fallen angel introduced in season 4, got instant hate for being a potential love interest for Dean until she was brainwashed into turning against the heroes and then killed off.
* Lisa, the woman Dean temporarily settled down with after season 5, got the expected hate from Sam/Dean and Dean/Castiel fans until she and Dean broke up and her memories of him were wiped.
* Meg and Hannah, the former who took Castiel's first kiss and the latter who developed a crush on him, got the expected hate from Dean/Castiel fans until they -- you guessed it -- were killed off. April also got a lot of hate for being the one who took Castiel's virginity, although the hate for her ''was'' pretty justified by her only initiating the sex to have the opportunity to kill him the morning after.
* [[DoubleStandard In stark contrast]] to the long list of female characters who got hated on for getting too close to any one of the male leads, pretty much the only male character who gets a noticeable amount of ship-related hatred is Castiel, from Sam/Dean fans who resent him for causing the majority of fandom to swing from supporting their ship to supporting Dean/Castiel instead and claim that he gets too much screentime at the expense of Sam and Dean's dynamic, or that he should have stayed dead after [[DeathIsCheap any of the six times he temporarily died]], or even that him [[spoiler:confessing his love to Dean to [[HeroicSacrifice save Dean's life at the expense of his own]]]] in the final season somehow retroactively ruins his character. Even then, though, the hatred he gets is ''nowhere'' near as virulent as the hatred for any of the above-mentioned female characters was with him being popular enough in the fandom at large to stay on the show for much, much longer than any of these female characters got to.
* Way back during seasons 4-6, Sam got villainized in some Dean/Castiel fics based on him being on bad terms with Dean for a good chunk of season 5 after he [[NiceJobBreakingItHero got tricked into starting the Apocalypse]] and then being [[CameBackWrong soulless and amoral]] for a good chunk of season 6 (even though he made up for his season 4-5 actions by sacrificing himself to seal away Lucifer and being soulless in season 6 was hardly his fault). This trend was common enough that at least one Dean/Castiel shipper [[MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch criticized it]] in a [[https://archiveofourown.org/works/151686 meta fic]]. However, the Sam hate died out after he got his soul back and the interpretation of him as a ShipperOnDeck for Dean and Castiel who [[EveryoneCanSeeIt cottons on to their UST long before they do]] became popular during later seasons where he got more friendly scenes with Castiel. Nowadays, while Dean/Castiel fans are still locked in ShipToShipCombat with Sam/Dean fans, they don't mind Sam on his own and are happy to portray him in their fics as a good brother/friend to Dean and Castiel who often [[ShipMates gets paired off with Gabriel, Jess, or Eileen]]
* A notable aversion of this trope came when Eileen was introduced in later seasons as Sam's love interest. Fans were considerably less hostile towards her than they had been to other past female love interests and she became relatively well-liked as a capable hunter who also gave the show some rare disabled representation as a deaf person who used ASL... although it's worth noting that fans almost certainly wouldn't have been as accepting of her if she had been set up as Dean or Castiel's love interest instead, as a not-insignificant reason for Sam/Eileen's popularity is that it's a good [[ShipMates Ship Mate]] for Dean/Castiel, whose shippers had become a lot more numerous and vocal than Sam/Dean's by the time of Eileen's introduction.
